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| 00:13.41 | trem | nite all, sweet dreams |
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| 13:08.50 | sunrunner20 | btw |
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| 14:02.41 | chouimat | morning |
| 14:02.44 | T0mW | chouimat: morning |
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| 15:08.50 | chouimat | T0mW: nothing like a remote controlled fan and a cat :) |
| 15:09.15 | chouimat | prpplague: good morning |
| 15:09.21 | prpplague | chouimat: greetings |
| 15:09.27 | T0mW | chouimat: or, a dog and a remote car alarm |
| 15:09.32 | prpplague | T0mW: hows the hammer lcd board? |
| 15:09.36 | chouimat | T0mW: hehe |
| 15:09.46 | T0mW | prpplague: I got the LCD connector wired backwards |
| 15:09.58 | prpplague | T0mW: doh, btdt |
| 15:11.03 | prpplague | T0mW: everything else look good? |
| 15:11.29 | T0mW | prpplague: well, the +3v and +5v switchers are working fine. I missed a power connection on the MAX3232. |
| 15:11.38 | chouimat | prpplague: about last thursday interview they called back friday with an offer :) |
| 15:11.49 | prpplague | chouimat: good deal |
| 15:12.05 | prpplague | chouimat: i'm sure you will make a fine waste disposal engineer |
| 15:12.13 | T0mW | prpplague: just starting with the buildroot to change the console from /dev/ttyS1 to /dev/ttyS0 |
| 15:12.38 | prpplague | T0mW: should be ttySAC0 |
| 15:12.47 | T0mW | prpplague: naw, Call Center Help Engineer |
| 15:13.00 | T0mW | :P |
| 15:13.04 | prpplague | hehe |
| 15:13.05 | chouimat | prpplague: still waiting for the work at home one ... but I think I will accept his Software Engineer one ... pay less but I will have to go out of here too so it's ok ... and at the end of the month the company will be moving in the byward market :) |
| 15:13.15 | chouimat | s/his/this |
| 15:13.46 | T0mW | prpplague: the new lead-free solder paste is just workable with the toaster oven. It takes more heat to melt it. |
| 15:14.00 | prpplague | T0mW: ahh |
| 15:16.28 | chouimat | T0mW: prpplague it's from ikea so it require some assembly http://mfrost.typepad.com/cute_overload/images/2007/11/02/20071019_02.jpg |
| 15:16.36 | chouimat | and it's worksafe |
| 15:16.54 | prpplague | hehe |
| 15:18.42 | T0mW | prpplague: project_build_arm/ is the skeleton? |
| 15:19.48 | prpplague | T0mW: yea, should be in project_build_arm/Hammer/root |
| 15:20.26 | prpplague | T0mW: that should already be set for ttySAC0 to have a console |
| 15:20.51 | T0mW | doh, isn't the hammer board shipped as /dev/ttySAC1 ?? |
| 15:21.16 | prpplague | no |
| 15:21.28 | prpplague | ttySAC0 |
| 15:25.42 | T0mW | oh great, the United Nations has applied for a liquor license. Now, that is all we need is some drunken politicos deciding world issues... |
| 15:29.39 | T0mW | prpplague: ahhh, I read the schematic wrong. |
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| 15:38.55 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: greetings |
| 15:39.15 | CosmicPenguin | hi |
| 15:44.59 | CosmicPenguin | granola + yogurt = good |
| 15:50.55 | prpplague | beer+frosted flakes = great! |
| 16:01.05 | chouimat | beer+cheese+cold pork tenderloin == divine ;) |
| 16:02.58 | adyer | T0mW: drunken politicos might be good - they might say what they really think for once |
| 16:13.57 | T0mW | adyer: yeah, world annihilation |
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| 16:54.58 | T0mW | prpplague: of course, I have to reverse TXD + RXD as well... |
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| 17:20.37 | T0mW | prpplague: no .config file? |
| 17:26.09 | T0mW | prpplague: nm |
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| 17:30.11 | prpplague | T0mW: there should be a hammer-config in the buildroot |
| 17:50.50 | T0mW | no, there is a Hammer-config for buildroot, but I was looking for a config for the kernel. I found one in the linux-2.6.22 tarball that looks correct. |
| 17:59.44 | dijenerate | hi all |
| 18:00.48 | dijenerate | prpplague: howdy |
| 18:01.29 | dijenerate | prpplague: got that GSM card mapped to a device file using usbserial and got minicom to talk to it |
| 18:01.43 | dijenerate | prpplague: however erroneously |
| 18:02.38 | dijenerate | prpplague: but the fact with AT it responded OK, I'm on the right track... |
| 18:02.47 | dijenerate | prpplague: lol |
| 18:03.08 | dijenerate | prpplague: now to figure out what commands it does accept |
| 18:13.35 | prpplague | dijenerate: cool |
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| 18:53.33 | wmat | anyone have a copy of this book? - Unix System V: Application Binary Interface Motorola 68000 Processor |
| 19:01.28 | prpplague | hmm, seems like i had that at one time |
| 19:07.13 | chouimat | wmat: you might be able to find it on the net |
| 19:08.42 | chouimat | prpplague: money ... wait they are out of it so I will go with BJ |
| 19:08.44 | wmat | chouimat: I am on the net ;) |
| 19:08.53 | chouimat | wmat: torrent :) |
| 19:09.10 | wmat | chouimat: also, i did find one, but it's stupidly expensive and avaiable used from some guy in denmark |
| 19:09.35 | wmat | which doesn't surprise me, as it's pushing 20 years old |
| 19:10.04 | prpplague | i wonder if its one of those print-on-demand books |
| 19:11.25 | chouimat | wmat: it's when I need to find this kind of book I hate being out of University |
| 19:11.25 | wmat | what's that? |
| 19:11.35 | wmat | no doubt |
| 19:11.51 | wmat | i bet there's still courses based on the m68k |
| 19:13.08 | chouimat | wmat: I found the first edition of the smalltalk book and the objective-c one ... I spent a few hours in front of the photocopy machine at my father's company for those 2 books :) |
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| 19:18.23 | prpplague | wmat: wow, found three copies so far, all used, and all +$160 |
| 19:21.02 | wmat | prpplague: I find it hard to believe there's not more copies out there |
| 19:24.15 | prpplague | wmat: hmmm - http://vig.prenhall.com/catalog/academic/product/0,1144,013035841X,00.html |
| 19:24.32 | prpplague | wmat: it looks like it has been updated and combined with several other references |
| 19:26.27 | wmat | prpplague: OH? which and where? |
| 19:28.44 | wmat | point away |
| 19:29.08 | prpplague | <prpplague> wmat: hmmm - http://vig.prenhall.com/catalog/academic/product/0,1144,013035841X,00.html |
| 19:30.15 | wmat | prpplague: thx |
| 19:30.24 | prpplague | wmat: np |
| 19:30.35 | wmat | prpplague: i'm unsure if that actually contains the original though |
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| 19:30.58 | prpplague | wmat: yea not sure if it does or not either |
| 19:31.22 | prpplague | " Repackaged to match the official Motorola documentation--not the rainbow cover. |
| 19:31.22 | prpplague | " |
| 19:31.38 | ds2 | morning |
| 19:34.46 | prpplague | wmat: are you looking for the suppliment? |
| 19:34.56 | wmat | prpplague: yeah |
| 19:36.28 | prpplague | interesting enough there seems to a pdf and ps files matching those name on a sco/caldera web site |
| 19:37.27 | wmat | prpplague: i've got those already ;) |
| 19:37.34 | prpplague | ahh ok |
| 19:37.51 | prpplague | wmat: what's in those? |
| 19:40.11 | wmat | prpplague: the basic sysV manuals for x86 and mips |
| 19:40.18 | prpplague | ahh |
| 19:41.46 | prpplague | wmat: i wonder if you could get prentice hall to make it a print-on-demand book |
| 19:42.24 | wmat | prpplague: i've already started that ball rolling, through a client |
| 19:42.31 | prpplague | ahh |
| 19:43.23 | chouimat | http://www.amazon.co.uk/System-Library-Functions-Reference-Manual/dp/013035841X/ref=sr_1_13/202-2596619-0943069?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1194291782&sr=1-13 |
| 19:45.04 | prpplague | chouimat: yea that appears to be the updated one |
| 19:45.08 | prpplague | chouimat: not the original |
| 19:47.16 | prpplague | wmat: looks like that was a hot book during some of the early sco vs. ibm case |
| 19:47.50 | wmat | prpplague: was it? too funny. |
| 19:50.37 | prpplague | wmat: yea i can find a few used ones, but they are all in the $160 range |
| 19:55.36 | prpplague | hmm, no help there |
| 19:55.50 | prpplague | but i did find a really nice x86 bios book |
| 20:00.05 | prpplague | wmat: guess that would be a good book to convert over to a pdf |
| 20:01.50 | prpplague | wmat: what the heck is a motorola 88000 ? |
| 20:02.16 | wmat | prpplague: no idea, did I type that somewhere? |
| 20:02.55 | prpplague | wmat: no i've seen that a couple of times for a print on demand |
| 20:02.58 | prpplague | System V Application Binary Interface: |
| 20:02.58 | prpplague | Motorala 88000 Processor Supplement |
| 20:05.49 | joe_bleau | 88k was a pre-powerpc risc chip. |
| 20:05.58 | prpplague | yea reading up on it now |
| 20:06.18 | prpplague | wmat: looks like that supplement was printed at the same time as the 68000 |
| 20:06.49 | joe_bleau | 68k is much older? |
| 20:07.27 | chouimat | prpplague: http://www.m88k.org/systems |
| 20:07.47 | prpplague | joe_bleau: indeed, however it just makes sense to have all of the available info as on-demand |
| 20:28.39 | prpplague | http://www.linux.com/feature/120635 |
| 20:28.46 | prpplague | i see that happening more and more |
| 20:39.45 | ds2 | then fork the project |
| 20:44.32 | chouimat | prpplague: I have a few nice comments about the Oxygen projects ... but they're not worksafe :) |
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| 21:20.01 | prpplague | chouimat: hehe |
| 21:20.23 | prpplague | ds2: i don't have the time nor the resources to fork every project that has elitist attitudes |
| 21:21.28 | adyer | lol, that's so elitist :-) |
| 21:26.10 | prpplague | adyer: what is? |
| 21:27.48 | CosmicPenguin | prpplague: heh - thats the same attitude we get from the "OMG Microsoft is putting windows on the OLPC |
| 21:27.52 | CosmicPenguin | crowd |
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| 21:31.36 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: indeed |
| 21:34.04 | adyer | prpplague: that you're too good to bother with forking (I'm sure there's a recursion in there that I'm too stupid to see...) :-) |
| 21:34.48 | prpplague | adyer: i don't think that it implie "too good", just "too busy" |
| 21:35.05 | roxfan | say, does anyone happen to have armv7 ISA docs (the arm part)? |
| 21:37.09 | prpplague | not i |
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| 21:57.24 | T0mW`gone | prpplague: ping |
| 21:57.33 | prpplague | T0mW: pong |
| 21:58.01 | T0mW | okey, how do I install the new kernel + filesystem? |
| 21:58.09 | T0mW | ... and apex |
| 21:58.30 | T0mW | prpplague: is there a step-by-step someplace? |
| 21:59.10 | prpplague | http://www.elinux.org/Hammer_How_to_Reflash_Apex_and_kernel |
| 21:59.23 | T0mW | prpplague: thanks |
| 21:59.39 | prpplague | T0mW: did you just do a fresh build of apex? |
| 21:59.50 | T0mW | prpplague: not yet |
| 22:00.02 | prpplague | T0mW: ok that howto is based on the corrected source code |
| 22:00.04 | prpplague | T0mW: one sec |
| 22:00.09 | prpplague | T0mW: let me get you the url |
| 22:00.12 | T0mW | k |
| 22:00.30 | prpplague | http://www.elinux.org/Hammer_Board_Software |
| 22:00.40 | prpplague | there is the current kernel patch and apex source |
| 22:00.49 | prpplague | you will need to build from those |
| 22:00.56 | prpplague | update your apex bootloader first |
| 22:01.06 | prpplague | reboot and then update your kernel and ramdisk |
| 22:01.35 | T0mW | ok |
| 22:02.43 | prpplague | T0mW: we fixed a bunch of errors on the beta stuff |
| 22:03.06 | prpplague | T0mW: like the apex on the beta hammers only allowed for kernel sizes up to 768k |
| 22:03.10 | prpplague | T0mW: changes to 1024k |
| 22:03.12 | T0mW | prpplague: heh |
| 22:04.28 | T0mW | prpplague: plan is to install what I have from buildroot with MMC card working. Then, config to boot filesystem from MMC. Then, work at an OE version of the filesystem |
| 22:05.12 | prpplague | T0mW: ok, let me know about the mmc stuff, its very very very rough |
| 22:05.18 | T0mW | ok |
| 22:05.39 | prpplague | T0mW: i'm considering moving the main kernel to 2.6.23 to update the spi based mmc drivers |
| 22:06.14 | prpplague | T0mW: i'll have more time to test at the end of the week |
| 22:06.26 | prpplague | T0mW: i'd almost like to rework the driver used on the zipit for 2.6 and use it with the hammer |
| 22:07.28 | T0mW | prpplague: well, I had the MMC card working on the LittleChips board... |
| 22:07.51 | T0mW | prpplague: I'll figure something out. |
| 22:09.26 | prpplague | T0mW: different inferface |
| 22:09.38 | prpplague | T0mW: the littlechips is using the sdio controller |
| 22:09.51 | prpplague | T0mW: the mmc on the hammer is just using a standard spi controller |
| 22:10.05 | T0mW | ah, ok |
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