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| 14:35.30 | T0mW | ~lart prpplague for just being Dave |
| 14:35.30 | purl | stuffs prpplague into a shiny new tin can and vacuum seals it for just being Dave |
| 14:35.38 | T0mW | :D |
| 14:35.49 | prpplague | hehe |
| 14:35.54 | prpplague | i know i know |
| 14:36.01 | prpplague | i get that from my wife plenty already |
| 14:36.42 | T0mW | interesting that purl chose the tin can... |
| 14:37.03 | prpplague | indeed |
| 14:37.23 | T0mW | sigh |
| 14:37.32 | prpplague | T0mW: whats cookin?\ |
| 14:37.40 | prpplague | T0mW: you see the linuxdevices post? |
| 14:38.22 | T0mW | I think that the only freaking way I can layout this stupid card is to put a 200pin SODIMM connector on the back of the board. It only measures 4.25" X 3.50", not very big |
| 14:38.52 | T0mW | prpplague: yes, I saw that. How has been your response? |
| 14:39.26 | prpplague | T0mW: it has been ok, but we didn't expect alot of orders for the next month or so |
| 14:39.41 | prpplague | T0mW: looking for more press coverage and some cool projects to do |
| 14:39.56 | prpplague | T0mW: when are you going to post your lcd board info? |
| 14:41.41 | prpplague | T0mW: this is the post that seems to be getting linked the most - http://www.daniweb.com/blogs/entry1830.html |
| 14:42.13 | prpplague | T0mW: we also got a small post here - http://robots.net/article/2403.html |
| 14:42.41 | T0mW | prpplague: boards will be here Friday |
| 14:43.07 | T0mW | prpplague: parts are in, no stencil yet but that should be here later this week (Wednesday?) |
| 14:43.10 | prpplague | T0mW: you gonna try and sell your boards? |
| 14:43.16 | T0mW | maybe, heh |
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| 14:49.12 | T0mW | prpplague: with the LCD, backlight supply, hammer, PCB + parts, it costs $360.92 |
| 14:49.49 | prpplague | prpplague: minus the hammer, what are you looking at? |
| 14:50.00 | prpplague | prpplague: you figuring on $160 cost for the hammer? |
| 14:50.07 | prpplague | the lcd is what $99? |
| 14:51.32 | T0mW | yeh |
| 14:51.47 | prpplague | T0mW: hehe, so WHEN are you going to post your board info? hehehe |
| 14:51.47 | T0mW | actually, figured on $150 for hammer |
| 14:51.52 | prpplague | ahh |
| 14:51.55 | T0mW | prpplague: when it works |
| 14:51.58 | prpplague | T0mW: hehe |
| 14:52.18 | T0mW | prpplague: so WHEN do I get the SPI MMC code |
| 14:52.19 | T0mW | heh |
| 14:52.19 | prpplague | T0mW: have you got an updated schematic? |
| 14:52.27 | prpplague | T0mW: working on that this week |
| 14:52.30 | T0mW | prpplague: yeah, you want a schematic? |
| 14:52.32 | T0mW | :P |
| 14:52.39 | prpplague | T0mW: yea |
| 14:52.41 | T0mW | ok |
| 14:52.46 | chouimat|work | hi T0mW prpplague |
| 14:52.53 | prpplague | chouimat|work: greetings |
| 14:53.04 | T0mW | ~lart chouimat|work for just being |
| 14:53.04 | purl | frags chouimat|work with his BFG9000 for just being |
| 14:53.07 | prpplague | T0mW: i wanna see if i can find some smaller lcds to work with it |
| 14:53.20 | T0mW | prpplague: to keep cost down? |
| 14:53.31 | prpplague | T0mW: yea, that lcd is way too expensive |
| 14:54.15 | chouimat|work | T0mW: why? :'( |
| 14:55.49 | T0mW | prpplague: sent, BTW, you will notice that the subject line says something other than simply "schematic", unlike some people we know.. |
| 14:56.08 | prpplague | hehe |
| 14:56.58 | T0mW | chouimat|work: ah, just because, btw, good morning. :) |
| 14:57.04 | chouimat|work | hehe |
| 14:57.33 | T0mW | chouimat|work: may my greeting be the worst thing that you encounter today. |
| 14:58.18 | *** mode/#edev [+o prpplague] by ChanServ |
| 14:58.44 | chouimat|work | T0mW: too late I had worse this morning in the bus ... a born-again christian that tried for 45 minutes to save my soul ... I wasn't able to listen to my ipod or read a book |
| 14:59.24 | prpplague | chouimat|work: you are too kind, i would have been verbally abusive |
| 14:59.48 | T0mW | chouimat|work: LOL, did you tell him that you liked your gf sinning with you? |
| 15:00.21 | T0mW | chouimat|work: or, did you just try to be polite and hoped that they would "go away"? |
| 15:00.21 | chouimat|work | prpplague: first I tried to look like I didn't understood a word of english and speak to him in french but the @%@%@%@%#$!@!$#@ moron speak french |
| 15:00.35 | chouimat|work | T0mW: hehe |
| 15:00.46 | prpplague | hehe |
| 15:01.36 | T0mW | I'm hungry, wonder what I bought to eat? |
| 15:04.49 | chouimat|work | hmmm hotdogs \ |
| 15:06.20 | prpplague | T0mW: hmm |
| 15:06.25 | prpplague | T0mW: no mail yet |
| 15:07.15 | T0mW | I must be schizophrenic, the person that buys the food never gets anything that I like to eat. That other person seems to think that I need to eat healthy or something. |
| 15:07.43 | T0mW | prpplague: dave123_aml@yahoo.com ? |
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| 15:12.15 | prpplague | yep |
| 15:14.37 | T0mW | prpplague: it left, at least it isn't in the mail queue on the server |
| 15:14.49 | prpplague | okie dokie |
| 15:14.56 | prpplague | i'll keep an eye out for it |
| 15:15.25 | T0mW | prpplague: maybe the junk mail filter finally figured out that I am spam? |
| 15:16.18 | prpplague | normally that would show up in the spam box |
| 15:18.28 | prpplague | T0mW: refresh my memory, the lcd you are using, is that +5v ttl ? |
| 15:19.08 | prpplague | T0mW: dcc blocked |
| 15:19.37 | T0mW | prpplague: they don't trust you with transferring files? |
| 15:20.10 | prpplague | T0mW: naw, just never have had a chance to jump the hoops to get to taken care of with the IT staff |
| 15:21.22 | T0mW | prpplague: http://www.openhardware.net/HammerLCD-RevH-schematic.pdf |
| 15:21.33 | prpplague | T0mW: thanks |
| 15:21.54 | prpplague | doh accessed denied |
| 15:22.05 | T0mW | wtf? |
| 15:22.26 | prpplague | Access forbidden! |
| 15:22.26 | prpplague | You don't have permission to access the requested object. It is either read-protected or not readable by the server. |
| 15:22.26 | prpplague | If you think this is a server error, please contact the webmaster. |
| 15:22.38 | T0mW | heh |
| 15:23.29 | T0mW | prpplague: permissions issue, should go now. |
| 15:23.54 | prpplague | yea going now |
| 15:25.48 | T0mW | prpplague: got it? |
| 15:25.59 | prpplague | yep |
| 15:26.01 | prpplague | thanks |
| 15:27.26 | T0mW | that i2c touch controller seems to be working ok. surprised me, I thought for sure that I'd be wrestling with it |
| 15:27.28 | prpplague | T0mW: http://www.bgmicro.com/index.asp?PageAction=VIEWPROD&ProdID=10816 |
| 15:31.34 | T0mW | prpplague: I got a feeling that is one of those goofy displays. There is no VFRAME or VLINE inputs, or VCLK |
| 15:36.17 | T0mW | drat, I must put the SODIMM on the bottom. Well, I guess, I still have that hot-air pencil yet. Solder all the other parts on using toaster oven, then manually paste + solder the sodimm later |
| 15:37.43 | wmat | prpplague: these guys a competitor of AML? www.handheld.com |
| 15:38.08 | prpplague | T0mW: naw, the only funny thing about that lcd is that it needs a negative driving voltage |
| 15:38.27 | prpplague | wmat: yea, one of the major ones |
| 15:38.32 | prpplague | wmat: why? |
| 15:39.07 | wmat | prpplague: i'm going there on Thursday to do a demo |
| 15:39.58 | prpplague | hmm |
| 15:40.38 | prpplague | wmat: just joking |
| 15:40.57 | prpplague | wmat: they looking for linux build environment? or is this a cold call |
| 15:41.32 | prpplague | wmat: they've had some linux based handhelds in the past, but they did very badly |
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| 15:50.23 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: greetings |
| 15:50.44 | prpplague | T0mW: hehe your email just showed up |
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| 15:56.44 | T0mW | prpplague: blame yahoo |
| 15:56.52 | prpplague | hehe |
| 15:58.22 | prpplague | T0mW: hey whats the current draw on the backlight for that lcd you are using? |
| 16:01.31 | T0mW | unknown |
| 16:06.12 | prpplague | T0mW: you are using the LM057QCTT03 right? |
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| 16:10.08 | T0mW | prpplague: no |
| 16:10.21 | prpplague | T0mW: odd you have the datasheet on your web site |
| 16:10.34 | T0mW | prpplague: stuff I collected over time |
| 16:10.36 | prpplague | http://www.openhardware.net/Documents_Lib/pdf_files/LM057QCTT03.pdf |
| 16:10.40 | adyer | hi - anybody done much with the I2C layer? |
| 16:11.08 | prpplague | adyer: some, mostly specific to the s3c24xx |
| 16:11.22 | prpplague | T0mW: eio has those for $40.00 |
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| 16:12.10 | adyer | I have a multifunction I2C device (keyboard, battery stuff, touch) and I want to have multiple drivers acessing it, so I want to lock it, but I don't see much info about that |
| 16:12.55 | prpplague | adyer: normally the locking is done in the subsystem |
| 16:13.05 | prpplague | adyer: because its done in a "message" format |
| 16:14.12 | adyer | unfortunately I think my device needs two messages (command and data response) hence the locking |
| 16:14.36 | prpplague | adyer: the message format includes an option to wait for a response |
| 16:19.17 | prpplague | adyer: the i2c and spi subsystems are in a horrible need for documentation |
| 16:19.33 | adyer | yeah, am digging through header files now |
| 16:21.22 | adyer | it loks like if I send two messages with i2c_transfer I will get a i2c repeated start, not sure if my microcontroller will handle that right |
| 16:21.44 | prpplague | one sec let me look |
| 16:21.50 | adyer | only one way to find out... |
| 16:22.04 | prpplague | adyer: there is an option to control that iirc |
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| 16:24.36 | prpplague | adyer: if you uise i2c_transfer there will be no start or stop bit transmitted between messages |
| 16:25.31 | adyer | hmm, looking at code for i.mx master it will send repeated start (implied stop) between msgs |
| 16:25.47 | prpplague | hmm |
| 16:26.40 | adyer | it looks like I can lock the whole bus at the i2c_adapter level if i have to |
| 16:31.45 | prpplague | adyer: *cough* maybe you should document your work on elinux |
| 16:32.12 | adyer | lol, gotta make it work first :-) |
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| 17:57.23 | prpplague | hmm |
| 17:57.35 | prpplague | firefox is eating alot of cpu time for some reason |
| 18:19.17 | prpplague | GPSFan: hey, whats cookin today |
| 18:19.22 | prpplague | GPSFan: done any hammer hacking? |
| 18:22.08 | GPSFan | prpplague: hey, not too much, the project that needed the 2 usb host ports is on hold for a while. |
| 18:26.00 | prpplague | GPSFan: oh? |
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| 19:40.07 | key2 | hey |
| 19:40.16 | key2 | someone has experiances with designing PCB with BGA ? |
| 19:40.53 | adyer | yes, mostly at the schematic level (not so much routing) |
| 19:48.39 | key2 | mmh |
| 19:49.27 | adyer | I have people to do that (polygon pushing) :-) |
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| 21:22.38 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: you talked to timr lately? |
| 21:23.01 | prpplague | ~seen TimRiker |
| 21:23.03 | purl | timriker <n=timr@pdpc/supporter/bronze/TimRiker> was last seen on IRC in channel #botpark, 3d 21h 31m 47s ago, saying: 'ic'. |
| 21:23.38 | CosmicPenguin | nope - I haven't talked to him in some time |
| 21:24.06 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: i tried to /msg a couple of weeks ago |
| 21:24.27 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: he finally responded that he didn't have time to chat, and promptly logged off |
| 21:25.18 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: hehe, i see you no longer hang in #elinux |
| 21:25.59 | CosmicPenguin | I haven't been in there in a while |
| 21:29.45 | prpplague | T0mW: hehe |
| 21:30.03 | T0mW | prpplague: I remember now, it is where I met you clowns |
| 21:30.16 | prpplague | indeed |
| 21:30.20 | T0mW | prpplague: got my Z2 |
| 21:30.42 | prpplague | T0mW: wait, didn't you meet us in #tuxscreen ? |
| 21:30.50 | prpplague | T0mW: oh yea? it have white wires too? |
| 21:31.16 | T0mW | prpplague: I haven't cracked it open. Yes, it was #tuxscreen |
| 21:32.33 | MothaWork | so, somehow I managed to blow up a resistor by means other than getting it too hot |
| 21:32.46 | MothaWork | now THAT takes talent... |
| 21:32.49 | prpplague | MonMotha: smd? |
| 21:32.52 | MothaWork | prpplague: yeah |
| 21:33.05 | MothaWork | I think it got overstressed during soldering |
| 21:33.12 | MothaWork | this board was hand assembled |
| 21:33.21 | prpplague | MothaWork: i've seen cases where the actual contacts get damaged |
| 21:33.49 | MothaWork | this one popped |
| 21:33.58 | MothaWork | it's got a bump on the top of the casing now |
| 21:34.04 | MothaWork | there was an audible pop, and now it's an open |
| 21:34.09 | prpplague | interesting |
| 21:35.00 | MothaWork | it's a biggun, too. 2512 size |
| 21:35.06 | MothaWork | current sensing beast |
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| 22:20.20 | prpplague | T0mW: how long before you have your z2 disassembled? |
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| 22:31.38 | prpplague | anyone know what a 4gb ipod nano is worth used? |
| 22:49.18 | agaffney | well, they were ~$200 new, right? |
| 22:49.30 | agaffney | you could probably get $75-$100 for it |
| 22:49.37 | prpplague | agaffney: yea |
| 22:49.51 | prpplague | agaffney: its a real POS |
| 22:49.57 | prpplague | agaffney: bought it for my wife |
| 22:50.03 | agaffney | the best way to tell is to search ebay for completed auctions |
| 22:50.07 | agaffney | and see what they went for |
| 22:50.13 | agaffney | my wife has a 2GB ipod nano |
| 22:50.16 | agaffney | she seems to like it |
| 22:50.17 | prpplague | agaffney: ended up getting her just a generic mp3 player |
| 22:50.33 | agaffney | yeah, I've got a generic 1GB mp3 player for myself |
| 22:51.45 | prpplague | yea, this one is just standard mass storage usb device |
| 22:52.01 | prpplague | she finds that much easier plus you just drag-n-drop on the desktop |
| 22:52.31 | agaffney | I hate itunes with a passion |
| 22:52.48 | agaffney | I reinstalled XP on my wife's box the other day, and I was trying to help her add her music back to itunes |
| 22:52.51 | agaffney | it was a royal pita |
| 22:53.17 | agaffney | I'd love to see a windows port of amarok |
| 22:58.17 | prpplague | agaffney: yea that was another reason |
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