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| 00:12.54 | kay2 | what MCU could I use for having Gigabit ethernet ? |
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| 03:41.07 | SpeedEvil | kay: I don;t think any micro integrates gigE yet |
| 03:41.26 | SpeedEvil | you could do USB-host + Gig-E USB |
| 03:41.32 | SpeedEvil | If you don't need full rate |
| 03:44.25 | fishhead | SMC |
| 03:44.29 | fishhead | I think it was |
| 03:44.35 | fishhead | makes some of their ether chips |
| 03:44.38 | fishhead | decoupled from pci bus |
| 03:44.46 | fishhead | just straight out gpio |
| 03:44.56 | SpeedEvil | yeah - or something like that |
| 03:45.08 | fishhead | i got some old ne2000's I can't wait to wash and test |
| 03:45.15 | SpeedEvil | Gig-E USB with a linux driver you can crib from |
| 03:45.23 | SpeedEvil | maybe easiest |
| 03:45.26 | fishhead | they are damn useful for mcu's cause you can slam them into 8 bit mode and attach to the isa pins |
| 03:45.26 | fishhead | :P |
| 03:45.34 | SpeedEvil | fishhead: Gig-E |
| 03:45.40 | fishhead | I know |
| 03:45.48 | fishhead | I am just making a point on a future project |
| 03:45.50 | fishhead | :P |
| 03:45.56 | fishhead | gige is probably a waste for most mcu's anyways |
| 03:45.59 | fishhead | they can't move that much data |
| 03:46.15 | fishhead | so speed |
| 03:46.15 | SpeedEvil | it may be more a point of not stalling other devices |
| 03:46.20 | fishhead | I found 2 isa soundcards |
| 03:46.34 | fishhead | witht hat analog devices codec that can drive off a parallel port |
| 03:46.48 | fishhead | how hard is it to make all the analog circuits etc I need to interface that chip |
| 03:46.49 | SpeedEvil | So? |
| 03:46.52 | fishhead | anyway to reuse a lot of the board |
| 03:46.54 | SpeedEvil | why bother?2A |
| 03:47.05 | fishhead | cause I have a 486-100 laptop |
| 03:47.08 | fishhead | i'd like to add sound to |
| 03:47.14 | fishhead | for a xmas display thing |
| 03:47.17 | SpeedEvil | It doesn't have sound? |
| 03:47.19 | fishhead | no |
| 03:47.24 | SpeedEvil | wacky |
| 03:47.32 | SpeedEvil | Even my 486/25 lappy does |
| 03:47.52 | fishhead | http://www.analog.com/en/prod/0,2877,AD1845,00.html |
| 03:48.02 | SpeedEvil | you have considered pcmcia soundcards? |
| 03:48.07 | SpeedEvil | they can be inexpensive on ebay |
| 03:48.31 | fishhead | uhh those have never been cheap and it seems nothing in dos or linux supports them |
| 03:49.54 | SpeedEvil | what sort of sound do you want? |
| 03:50.02 | fishhead | just basic |
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| 03:50.12 | fishhead | yeah I could do another resistor dac like I did 10 yrs ago |
| 03:50.17 | fishhead | but I thought this might be cooler |
| 03:50.25 | shabble | ooh, more electronics. |
| 03:50.26 | shabble | hellos |
| 03:50.35 | fishhead | hi |
| 03:50.37 | fishhead | where you from? |
| 03:50.47 | shabble | ##electronics |
| 03:50.50 | shabble | also scotland :) |
| 03:51.03 | fishhead | oh neat |
| 03:52.37 | fishhead | something is defintely happening since I am getting off the paxil |
| 03:52.58 | fishhead | starting to look at shit like that codec on that old isa soundcard and actually seeing and thining about how to hook it to a parallel port |
| 03:57.34 | fishhead | http://www.analog.com/UploadedFiles/Data_Sheets/AD1845.pdf |
| 03:57.38 | fishhead | sounds pretty nicre |
| 04:01.39 | jbevren | lol I have about a half dozen brand new ad1845's in my closet |
| 04:01.46 | jbevren | still sealed in the factory foil bag |
| 04:17.12 | fishhead | have you used them both? |
| 04:17.14 | fishhead | any good? |
| 04:17.16 | fishhead | any bad? |
| 04:17.19 | fishhead | any pains in the ass? |
| 04:17.30 | fishhead | I like how they can work off a 8 bit paralle port |
| 04:17.33 | fishhead | can even use the dma mode |
| 04:17.38 | fishhead | or pio if it's not available |
| 04:18.08 | fishhead | the other option is to breakout a pcmcia slot into a isa slot |
| 04:21.28 | fishhead | man I still remeber that resistor dac |
| 04:21.34 | fishhead | back in 93-94 I made |
| 04:21.43 | fishhead | I would fire up mods on my laptop and listen while studying in college |
| 04:35.56 | jbevren | have I mentioned theyre still sealed? I havent used em. |
| 04:36.08 | jbevren | I used to have an isa card with the chip on it though |
| 04:36.11 | jbevren | decent chip |
| 04:36.31 | jbevren | I saw, somewhere, a project to put it on the bus of an apple or commodore (dont remember which) taht used PDMA transfers |
| 04:36.53 | jbevren | PDMA is pseudo-dma. The CPU transfers the data, but the chip is convinced the data is coming in via a dma controller ;) |
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| 04:41.32 | fishhead | what's the end result? |
| 04:41.36 | fishhead | less cpu usage? |
| 04:42.15 | fishhead | it must still be valiable in non pc related items |
| 04:42.24 | fishhead | considering it's been out since 97 and they have a rohs versio now |
| 04:45.31 | jbevren | less hardware ;) |
| 04:45.42 | jbevren | the cpu does PIO transfers to the chip's DMA channel |
| 04:45.59 | jbevren | Hm |
| 04:46.03 | jbevren | here's a wtf item |
| 04:46.05 | jbevren | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D3PTpaB4kro |
| 04:46.10 | jbevren | hand-soldering a BGA ic |
| 04:47.35 | fishhead | I can barely handle dip :P |
| 04:47.42 | fishhead | that was another nice thing abotu this codec |
| 04:47.43 | fishhead | plcc :) |
| 04:48.14 | jbevren | nod |
| 04:48.19 | jbevren | shcmartboard is pretty easy though |
| 04:48.21 | fishhead | whoa |
| 04:48.24 | jbevren | for QFP and the like |
| 04:48.29 | fishhead | unless there is trace length issues |
| 04:48.32 | jbevren | you align the IC in canals on the board |
| 04:48.33 | fishhead | that looks very viable |
| 04:48.35 | fishhead | wonder how much |
| 04:48.39 | jbevren | and heat it |
| 04:48.40 | jbevren | hehe |
| 04:48.46 | jbevren | $45.99 for a 400-land bga board |
| 04:49.28 | fishhead | hmm |
| 04:49.30 | fishhead | might not be bad |
| 04:49.34 | fishhead | in some cases |
| 04:49.46 | fishhead | whoa |
| 04:49.51 | fishhead | they put canels for all the pins |
| 04:49.53 | fishhead | fucking genius |
| 04:49.55 | jbevren | right |
| 04:49.59 | jbevren | and pre-solder the board |
| 04:50.03 | jbevren | just tin your iron and go |
| 04:50.17 | jbevren | so the chip 'snaps' in |
| 04:50.28 | fishhead | what's the chances of a cold pin though |
| 04:50.30 | jbevren | or you snap the bga balls in place and tape the IC as shown |
| 04:50.42 | jbevren | not much if you follow directions |
| 04:50.55 | jbevren | even on .4mm pitch you can see if a pin is cold with a magnifier |
| 04:51.01 | fishhead | wow |
| 04:51.05 | fishhead | OWNS |
| 04:51.06 | fishhead | YOUR |
| 04:51.09 | fishhead | "CANUCK" |
| 04:51.52 | jbevren | well |
| 04:51.55 | jbevren | I have to be up in 6 hours |
| 04:51.57 | jbevren | so ciao :) |
| 04:52.02 | fishhead | peace |
| 04:52.04 | jbevren | some day I'll try a schmartboard hehe |
| 04:52.10 | jbevren | theyre pricey but they look to be worth it |
| 04:52.49 | fishhead | yeah for chips you can only get in bga |
| 04:52.57 | fishhead | and not easily substituded |
| 04:53.41 | fishhead | wonder how much abuse the board can take |
| 04:53.49 | fishhead | before it smokes, melts or the traces peeel |
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| 07:57.58 | flameman | hi |
| 07:58.10 | flameman | anybody working with gentoo crossdev ? |
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| 14:27.07 | key2 | what toolchain can I use to compile for ARM7TDMI ? |
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| 14:44.40 | flameman | good question |
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| 14:44.56 | flameman | gentoo crossdev ? is it working ? |
| 14:45.09 | chouimat|work | flameman: yes |
| 14:45.14 | chouimat|work | morning |
| 14:45.34 | flameman | hi |
| 14:45.35 | flameman | :) |
| 14:46.09 | flameman | here i have a problem with it: no way to get a crossdeved gcc-3.4.6 for mipsel |
| 14:46.26 | flameman | i don't know about arm7tdmi |
| 15:02.03 | SpeedEvil | there is the monster that is openembedded |
| 15:02.26 | SpeedEvil | which makes building embedded systems easy |
| 15:02.30 | SpeedEvil | (in theory) |
| 15:03.28 | SpeedEvil | but it's intended for large projects, not a binary image. |
| 15:04.32 | flameman | :'( |
| 15:04.37 | T0mW | if anyone is looking for a Z2, you might look at ebay. They are selling them there and they come with a 1Gig SD card. Cheaper than from zipitwireless. |
| 15:04.39 | flameman | the openWRT one ? |
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| 15:24.20 | prpplague | ~seen landley |
| 15:24.22 | purl | landley <n=landley@static-71-162-243-5.phlapa.fios.verizon.net> was last seen on IRC in channel #uclibc, 22d 9h 9s ago, saying: 'Not interested. :P'. |
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| 15:39.32 | adyer_ | flameman would gcc-3.3.3 work? |
| 15:39.49 | flameman | no :( |
| 15:40.56 | flameman | also 2.95.3 fails in the crossbuild |
| 15:42.31 | adyer_ | flameman can you explain what it is you are up to? |
| 15:45.11 | flameman | i'm easily using crossdev to crosscompile a toolchian for mipsel |
| 15:45.32 | flameman | it has success with gcc 4.1.2, failure with others |
| 15:45.43 | flameman | unfortunately i need the 3.4.6 |
| 15:46.14 | adyer_ | why not use one pre-built from mips (sde) or denx (eldk)? |
| 15:46.40 | flameman | 'cause i'm on ppc |
| 15:46.52 | flameman | 'cause i hate prebuild binaries |
| 15:46.58 | flameman | 'cause i'm using gentoo |
| 15:47.28 | flameman | i think i will study openWRT tools |
| 15:48.10 | flameman | and when i will find what is wrong with crossdev i will fix it |
| 15:48.16 | adyer_ | lol, have fun. I've slogged through cross-building gcc for mips a few times long ago, and it's no fun. crosstool didn't exist then |
| 15:48.48 | adyer_ | never did it "cross endian" though :-) |
| 15:49.13 | ohsix | you could always try scratchbox too |
| 15:49.52 | ohsix | it's in sunrise |
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| 15:57.51 | sjhill | so |
| 15:58.29 | sjhill | if you had to choose a main-line distribution for use on a full-blown x86 3U CompactPCI card, what would you choose? |
| 15:58.47 | sjhill | i'm leaning towards FC or Debian maybe Ubuntu |
| 15:59.32 | sjhill | all of the devices are already supported by Linux, so really it's just an integration effort |
| 16:00.11 | samuelr | sjhill: I'd probably go with FC, just because I know it better. |
| 16:00.25 | samuelr | But Ubuntu is the sexy way to go :-) |
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| 16:04.19 | flameman | debian ? |
| 16:04.28 | flameman | yes debian is easier to get a cross compiler |
| 16:04.29 | flameman | :) |
| 16:04.37 | flameman | i appreciated it |
| 16:04.37 | prpplague | sjhill: we've been pretty happy with debian |
| 16:04.46 | CosmicPenguin | sjhill ... x86 |
| 16:05.05 | CosmicPenguin | If hell didn't freeze over yesterday with prpplague professing his love for GPE, it sure did today |
| 16:05.11 | flameman | unfortunately i have to develop for gentoo |
| 16:05.14 | sjhill | heh |
| 16:05.35 | flameman | (here i'm also running a good copy of ubuntu ppc :P ) |
| 16:05.42 | prpplague | sjhill: http://www.linuxdevices.com/news/NS8497500247.html |
| 16:05.43 | flameman | (don't tell to gentoo guys) |
| 16:05.55 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: right tool for the right job |
| 16:06.04 | CosmicPenguin | I suppose |
| 16:06.18 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: have nothing against any of the build systems or distros, it's always a matter of what fits best for your needs |
| 16:06.43 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: hehe, should be happy, selling lots of geodes |
| 16:06.50 | sjhill | nice little unit |
| 16:06.57 | CosmicPenguin | indeed |
| 16:07.21 | LyosNorezel | sjhill: F8 just came out... Werewolf is actually pretty sweet |
| 16:07.43 | flameman | a modern trasportable |
| 16:07.45 | flameman | :D |
| 16:07.47 | flameman | auauauau good idea |
| 16:08.38 | CosmicPenguin | Selling off those GXs |
| 16:08.53 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: they going away soon? |
| 16:09.03 | CosmicPenguin | nope |
| 16:09.15 | prpplague | ahh good |
| 16:09.28 | CosmicPenguin | but we don't have many customers for them |
| 16:09.41 | CosmicPenguin | Most everybody is playing with LX these days |
| 16:10.14 | prpplague | hehe landley is having heck with that netcat -f in combination with a usb->rs-232 adapter |
| 16:10.19 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: ahh |
| 16:10.50 | LyosNorezel | prpplague: "having heck"? is that meth you're smoking? |
| 16:10.53 | LyosNorezel | ;-P |
| 16:11.42 | prpplague | LyosNorezel: southern US slang for "lots of trouble" |
| 16:12.06 | LyosNorezel | heh... has the southern dialect really changed that much? |
| 16:12.32 | LyosNorezel | prpplague: I was born in the south... hence I still say "ya'll" |
| 16:12.43 | sjhill | LyosNorezel: yah, here in MidWest US we would say "corn stunted" |
| 16:12.55 | LyosNorezel | prpplague: yet... I don't remember "having heck" |
| 16:13.02 | LyosNorezel | sjhill: heh |
| 16:13.07 | prpplague | LyosNorezel: doesn't sound like you were much a southerner if you've never heard "heck" before |
| 16:13.35 | LyosNorezel | prpplague: it might be because I was raised in an agnostic family... |
| 16:13.41 | CosmicPenguin | yeah - heck is a pretty southern term |
| 16:13.48 | LyosNorezel | prpplague: we used the real words ;-P |
| 16:13.54 | LyosNorezel | ie., hell |
| 16:14.36 | prpplague | LyosNorezel: i doubt being agnostic has anything to do with simply listening to the speech patterns around you |
| 16:14.52 | flameman | good solved |
| 16:14.53 | flameman | :) |
| 16:15.02 | flameman | the rb532 is now booting |
| 16:15.34 | flameman | i think i will report to the wiki page |
| 16:16.57 | LyosNorezel | prpplague: heh... the "speech pattern" we used was... 'ell for hell... ie., "what the 'ell ye need that fo'? |
| 16:17.29 | prpplague | LyosNorezel: ok |
| 16:18.08 | LyosNorezel | "heck" wasn't really used much... least... not in the area I was in |
| 16:18.36 | prpplague | what area was that? |
| 16:19.42 | LyosNorezel | prpplague: it's long gone now... but there was an area just outside of Orlando, Fl... that used to be as "country" as ye can get. sadly... urban sprall put an end to that |
| 16:20.30 | prpplague | LyosNorezel: HA! you are funny |
| 16:20.47 | LyosNorezel | what's funny about that? |
| 16:23.02 | prpplague | just never heard Fl being considered as part of the southern states (indeed it is in the southern part of the US) |
| 16:23.33 | prpplague | culture wise, its very different |
| 16:24.08 | LyosNorezel | prpplague: yeah... there weren't many areas that could be called "country"... but there were, indeed, a few. |
| 16:25.15 | LyosNorezel | heh... isn't florida close to becoming a "city" instead of a "state" now? |
| 16:26.27 | prpplague | nueveo cuba |
| 16:26.39 | LyosNorezel | hehe |
| 16:27.20 | prpplague | last time i went thru MIA only the supervisor at the AA ticket counter spoke english |
| 16:27.59 | LyosNorezel | LOL |
| 16:28.28 | LyosNorezel | prpplague: btw... you spelled "nuevo" wrong |
| 16:28.30 | LyosNorezel | ;-P |
| 16:28.55 | LyosNorezel | ROFLMFAO |
| 16:29.36 | LyosNorezel | I know a little... but I only took 1 year of high school spanish... so what I know of the language... wouldn't fill a thimble |
| 16:29.56 | LyosNorezel | that just happened to be one of the few words I know |
| 16:30.00 | LyosNorezel | ;-P |
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| 16:31.08 | LyosNorezel | o.0 |
| 16:31.14 | LyosNorezel | dialup? |
| 16:31.26 | LyosNorezel | shit... people still use that crap? |
| 16:32.02 | prpplague | LyosNorezel: just a reminder, this channel is used by people at work, please keep you language down |
| 16:32.13 | prpplague | LyosNorezel: using IRC at work is a privilage not a right |
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| 16:33.59 | LyosNorezel | prpplague: honestly... if people can't handle the full english language... they need to disconnect permanently from the 'net |
| 16:34.33 | prpplague | LyosNorezel: again, business owners do not subscribe to that idea |
| 16:34.47 | prpplague | LyosNorezel: i don't want #edev to be blocked |
| 16:34.53 | LyosNorezel | ah |
| 16:35.15 | prpplague | LyosNorezel: this channel is frequented by professionals at work |
| 16:35.31 | prpplague | LyosNorezel: it has to remain somewhat professional both in content and language |
| 16:35.58 | LyosNorezel | prpplague: so... what? I have to censor myself because certain idiots view parts of the English Language offensive? |
| 16:36.11 | LyosNorezel | what even happened to the first amendment? |
| 16:36.30 | ohsix | unless flyback/fruitbag are here |
| 16:36.35 | prpplague | LyosNorezel: you don't have to censor yourself, just don't use it in here |
| 16:36.45 | prpplague | ohsix: he's not suppose to do it either |
| 16:36.47 | chouimat|work | LyosNorezel: I didn't heard it's a MYTH :) |
| 16:37.01 | chouimat|work | s/I/you |
| 16:37.10 | ohsix | you should probably read the first amendment before you parrot it about with such irreverence |
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| 16:37.26 | chouimat|work | ohsix: who? me? |
| 16:37.41 | ohsix | no ;] |
| 16:38.03 | LyosNorezel | prpplague: that's still censoring... especially when such words save so much time (in certain cases) |
| 16:38.04 | chouimat|work | ohsix: because personnaly I don't care about it since I'm not in the USA ;) |
| 16:38.22 | prpplague | LyosNorezel: thats the rules for this channel |
| 16:39.28 | LyosNorezel | *sigh* |
| 16:40.22 | prpplague | chouimat|work: nothing major just s#$t word, and i just gave him a reminder |
| 16:40.36 | chouimat|work | prpplague: oh this one ... |
| 16:41.20 | prpplague | ohsix: if you catch fishhead swearing please message one of the sysop so that it can be dealt with |
| 16:42.27 | ohsix | i usually tune out when he shows up, but sure |
| 16:43.38 | CosmicPenguin | I'm usually have eyeballs on the room during the evening |
| 16:43.45 | CosmicPenguin | poke me |
| 16:43.50 | LyosNorezel | ohsix: I have read the first amendment... I've read and studied the entire US constitution. Cursing does not fall in the range of violating someone elses rights... and therefore cannot be ruled against... as in the case of yelling "fire" in a theatre... which may deprive someone of their right to life. |
| 16:44.40 | ohsix | yet you fail to cosider wether it's applicable to irc in any way, shape, or form |
| 16:45.06 | prpplague | LyosNorezel: but just like pr0n, there are exception where the "community" can deam something as "offensive" and place regulations on it |
| 16:45.45 | prpplague | LyosNorezel: the #edev community in general has deamed that is offensive and problematic to use that language here |
| 16:46.08 | LyosNorezel | ohsix: when it cuts down on the amount amount of words needed to get a point across (and there are many proven cases) it can easily apply |
| 16:46.21 | ohsix | incorrect |
| 16:46.28 | LyosNorezel | prpplague: typical religious-esque mindset |
| 16:47.06 | ohsix | currently you are violating *network* rules with this behaviour, as well |
| 16:47.19 | LyosNorezel | ohsix: oh really? |
| 16:47.36 | ohsix | freenode is serious business |
| 16:47.38 | prpplague | LyosNorezel: is this case it has nothing to with religious items, it's simply business, most companies monitor their employees access to internet, unless we want #edev marked as blocked, we have to play with some standard rules of language |
| 16:48.06 | LyosNorezel | ohsix: and the law isn't "serious business"? |
| 16:48.29 | LyosNorezel | prpplague: what do you think brought on such "rules" |
| 16:48.30 | LyosNorezel | ? |
| 16:48.34 | ohsix | you've been informed of the "law", and you persist |
| 16:48.55 | SpeedEvil | Much of this channel is completely outside US law. |
| 16:49.00 | LyosNorezel | ohsix: network "rules" != law |
| 16:49.02 | prpplague | LyosNorezel: i'm not interested in the history or anything else, i just want to keep my internet from work |
| 16:49.06 | CosmicPenguin | Listen - if you feel your rights have been violated, then please, persue any legal resource you feel is appropriate |
| 16:49.15 | prpplague | indeed |
| 16:49.16 | CosmicPenguin | but until then - thats the rules of the channel - obey them or you will be asked to leave |
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| 16:51.14 | LyosNorezel | *sigh*... it sure would be nice if we could shoot all the idiots who think English *WORDS* are offensive |
| 16:51.32 | LyosNorezel | the problem would then solve itself |
| 16:51.51 | LyosNorezel | ah well... I can dream |
| 16:52.01 | ohsix | that wont make it ok for you to skirt the rules |
| 16:52.06 | chouimat|work | LyosNorezel: then be intelligent and start using another language or an obscure dialect of english ... |
| 16:52.35 | chouimat|work | I think prpplague have no problem with me saying "tabarnack" ;) |
| 16:52.45 | LyosNorezel | chouimat|work: ok... just don't be surprised if you start seeing a stream of russian from me ;-P |
| 16:52.47 | SpeedEvil | Freedom of speech does not include freedom of speech in others forums. You are quite free to start your own IRC server. |
| 16:53.20 | prpplague | chouimat|work: hehe, just as long as the generic net filters don't pick it up |
| 16:53.32 | SpeedEvil | And if the existing rules are too offensive, people will flock to it. |
| 16:53.34 | ohsix | hopefully you've noted that freenode nor #edev are governmental entities |
| 16:53.38 | chouimat|work | LyosNorezel: then make sure you're using utf-8 so I can enjoy those nice cyrillic chars ;) |
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| 16:54.04 | LyosNorezel | chouimat|work: hehe |
| 16:55.17 | prpplague | GPSFan: were you using minicom with your hammer board? |
| 16:55.18 | chouimat|work | prpplague: at the pub I usually go there is a trivia game and they banned all curses word in english and in french so I used the swedish equivalent of the F word for my nick and it worked ;) |
| 16:55.32 | prpplague | hehe |
| 16:56.09 | GPSFan | prpplague: yes, IIRC it worked fine. |
| 16:56.24 | prpplague | GPSFan: did you use the rs-232 port on the flyswatter? |
| 16:56.46 | GPSFan | no, just the usb on the FS. |
| 16:57.29 | prpplague | ahh |
| 16:58.09 | chouimat|work | prpplague: I like the name |
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| 17:02.58 | prpplague | GPSFan: ?? |
| 17:03.07 | prpplague | GPSFan: i didn't understand that statement |
| 17:15.37 | prpplague | GPSFan: you still around? |
| 17:19.24 | GPSFan | prpplague: yeah, I thought you were asking about if I used the rs232 on the FS to talk to the hammer. |
| 17:19.48 | prpplague | GPSFan: i am , but i'm confused with your statement |
| 17:20.13 | prpplague | GPSFan: are you thinking the db-9 on the flyswatter is connected to the hammer board? |
| 17:21.17 | GPSFan | that's what I thought you were saying. .... maybe we should start from scratch. ;>) |
| 17:21.22 | prpplague | GPSFan: hehe |
| 17:21.40 | prpplague | GPSFan: the Flyswatter has two ports one is a usb->jtag , the other is a usb->rs-232 |
| 17:22.12 | prpplague | GPSFan: you can connect a rs-232 cable from the db-9 on the flyswatter to the db-9 on the carrier board |
| 17:22.15 | GPSFan | ah so the serial port on the FS is connected to the usb |
| 17:22.24 | prpplague | GPSFan: then use the /dev/ttyUSBx to talk to the board |
| 17:22.31 | prpplague | GPSFan: correct |
| 17:23.08 | prpplague | GPSFan: gotta do more docs, i just assumed it was clear to everyone |
| 17:23.35 | prpplague | GPSFan: i'll get some more detailed info out there on the wiki |
| 17:23.51 | GPSFan | so the FS can be a usb to serial for the hammer so yo don't need a serial port on the PC just a usb. (?) |
| 17:24.03 | prpplague | correct |
| 17:24.55 | GPSFan | well ain't that cool... |
| 17:25.06 | prpplague | hehe |
| 17:27.09 | prpplague | hehe indeed |
| 17:44.03 | T0mW | supercap, the heck with that big lithium coin! |
| 18:15.38 | prpplague | hehe |
| 18:15.57 | prpplague | T0mW: got your hammer lcd boards back yet? |
| 18:16.22 | T0mW | prpplague: yes, they came Friday |
| 18:16.30 | prpplague | lovely |
| 18:16.42 | prpplague | T0mW: i assume no time to assemble yet |
| 18:16.42 | T0mW | did you get that spi thingy working? |
| 18:16.47 | T0mW | heh |
| 18:16.56 | prpplague | T0mW: yea about 99% , gonna finish tomorrow |
| 18:17.05 | T0mW | lol |
| 18:17.24 | prpplague | T0mW: tuff keeping both jobs balanced |
| 18:18.14 | CosmicPenguin | slacker |
| 18:19.08 | T0mW | prpplague: I think that I only have 7 projects that I'm supposed to be working on... |
| 18:26.18 | T0mW | prpplague: AHA! |
| 18:29.48 | T0mW | prpplague: one of the "other" s3c2410 pcbs are back from the board house. :) |
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| 20:07.06 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: have you seen anything that would indicate that the /dev/mem entry is deprecated? |
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| 20:19.16 | CosmicPenguin | nope |
| 20:19.18 | CosmicPenguin | it better not be |
| 20:19.29 | prpplague | i didn't think so |
| 20:19.36 | CosmicPenguin | actually... |
| 20:19.48 | CosmicPenguin | no, I lie |
| 20:19.55 | CosmicPenguin | there wouldn't be any way for X to access the registers |
| 20:20.09 | CosmicPenguin | now I need to check |
| 20:20.46 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: i didn't find any posts to that effect, landley said he though read somewhere that is was deprecated |
| 20:23.13 | CosmicPenguin | its not in the feature removal list |
| 20:23.56 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: okie dokie thanks |
| 20:31.23 | CosmicPenguin | tasty |
| 20:34.42 | chouimat|work | prpplague: and if you give them enought of those you will save him a trip to the dentist |
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| 22:00.04 | prpplague | wow the libretto's are still selling for about the same about they were 7 years ago |
| 22:02.35 | CosmicPenguin | prpplague: cheers! |
| 22:02.38 | CosmicPenguin | prpplague: you made make magazine |
| 22:02.45 | prpplague | we did? |
| 22:02.47 | CosmicPenguin | http://blog.makezine.com/archive/2007/12/tin_can_tools.html?CMP=OTC-0D6B48984890 |
| 22:04.14 | prpplague | neato |
| 22:04.20 | prpplague | hope it brings in some biz |
| 22:04.30 | CosmicPenguin | it should - those guys do some impressive stuff |
| 22:05.02 | CosmicPenguin | hmmm - now that I'm thinking about it - I should buy one for my halloween automation |
| 22:05.08 | CosmicPenguin | how many GPIOs are there? |
| 22:05.39 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: depends on what options you have configured |
| 22:06.00 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: all pins with the exception of the ADC and usb lines are double functions |
| 22:06.06 | CosmicPenguin | nice |
| 22:06.22 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: but the best thing is, if you need more gpio just add a ft2232 via the usb port |
| 22:06.27 | CosmicPenguin | I'll have to think about that - it would be way easier for me to program something in Linux then to try to dick about with a 8051 |
| 22:06.47 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: well when you are ready drop me a line |
| 22:10.28 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: what kind of halloween automation are you doing? |
| 22:10.37 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: just basic motor and servo stuff? |
| 22:10.59 | CosmicPenguin | next year I'm probably going to do a pop up head |
| 22:11.29 | CosmicPenguin | triggered off of a motion detector |
| 22:11.33 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: ahh, you might want to wait for a month or so, we have a robotics carrier board in the works for doing that kind of stuff |
| 22:11.41 | CosmicPenguin | syncronize a scream with it |
| 22:12.09 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: how good of a quality does the scream have to be? |
| 22:12.16 | CosmicPenguin | not great quality |
| 22:12.23 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: 22khz sample rate good enough? |
| 22:12.26 | CosmicPenguin | yeah |
| 22:12.44 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: you can do the audio via a pwm and filter, easy as pie |
| 22:12.51 | CosmicPenguin | If it becomes a problem, I can always get a sound playback chip |
| 22:12.57 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: when you are ready let me know |
| 22:13.09 | CosmicPenguin | in fact, if I want to do random noises around the graveyard, that would be what I would do |
| 22:13.15 | prpplague | iirc tomw has implement the pwm audio on his board |
| 22:13.22 | CosmicPenguin | it all depends on what I can get and how much work it will be |
| 22:14.03 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: if you are willing to doc it, i'm sure we can get you eval stuff |
| 22:15.35 | prpplague | man makezine links are pounding the server |
| 22:15.39 | CosmicPenguin | http://www.crouse-house.com/?q=gallery&g2_itemId=4201 |
| 22:15.46 | CosmicPenguin | some pictures of my graveyard this year |
| 22:15.48 | prpplague | 8k hits in the last hour |
| 22:15.57 | CosmicPenguin | those are all home-made gravestones |
| 22:16.20 | prpplague | cool |
| 22:16.27 | CosmicPenguin | next year, I plan to make some more and put them all over my front yard |
| 22:16.34 | CosmicPenguin | and make people walk through the yard to the door |
| 22:16.46 | prpplague | hehe |
| 22:16.56 | CosmicPenguin | I'll put the pop-up head so its triggered from behind one of the gravestones |
| 22:16.58 | CosmicPenguin | should be pretty cool |
| 22:17.41 | CosmicPenguin | My goal is to eventually fill the entire front yard, put up a fence around it, etc, etc |
| 22:18.09 | prpplague | fun fun, well when you are ready to dev, let me know, you do alot of stuff like have a bunch of avr's with bluetooth modules, and have the hammer coordinate them |
| 22:18.23 | CosmicPenguin | hmm - that would be fun |
| 22:18.26 | CosmicPenguin | I'll definately keep that in mind |
| 22:18.38 | fishhead | <PRPPLAGUE> fly monkeys fly! |
| 22:19.37 | CosmicPenguin | there is nothing you can't do with a dremel and a dream |
| 22:19.49 | fishhead | OR A 8051 :p |
| 22:20.41 | prpplague | fishhead: double check you keyboard, i think you might have your caps lock on |
| 22:21.22 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: i'm pretty sure that guy that killed his wife said the same thing, which is why they can't find the body |
| 22:23.31 | prpplague | oh lord, yet another crappy patent case comes to marshall |
| 22:23.34 | prpplague | jeeze |
| 22:23.58 | prpplague | i just can't believe that marshall has become such a haven for patent trolls |
| 22:25.33 | adyer_ | marshall? |
| 22:26.30 | prpplague | marshall, texas the federal district where the judge is a complete idiot and rules in favor of the trolls with almost no trial involved |
| 22:26.50 | prpplague | my home town is just 15 minutes from marshall |
| 22:31.16 | SpeedEvil | what's it this time? |
| 22:33.16 | fishhead | well again my answer is pipe bombs |
| 22:33.21 | fishhead | shame they aren't legal |
| 22:33.57 | fishhead | but I am a cynical old basterd |
| 22:34.29 | SpeedEvil | Pipe bombs don't fix it alas. |
| 22:34.40 | prpplague | visual email |
| 22:34.54 | SpeedEvil | prpplague: like sending pictures through email? |
| 22:35.27 | prpplague | http://blog.makezine.com/archive/2007/12/tin_can_tools.html#comments |
| 22:35.30 | prpplague | oops |
| 22:35.32 | prpplague | wrong url |
| 22:35.33 | prpplague | one sec |
| 22:35.39 | fishhead | there was a ip managment service as a partner to the business hub my computer consulting company is part of |
| 22:35.46 | prpplague | http://www.itnews.com.au/News/66274,klausner-sues-apple-iphone-over-voicemail.aspx |
| 22:35.57 | fishhead | and when they intorduced themselves the first thing I thought was "ok here is where I quit" |
| 22:36.11 | fishhead | prpplague sick of the feds can't wait to suck the mpaa off either |
| 22:36.28 | fishhead | far as I am concerned if I see a terrorist in my neighborhood I am not saying a damn thing |
| 22:36.32 | fishhead | let the country burn to the ground |
| 22:37.45 | fishhead | that and all the bull*** dealing with buying cold medicine |
| 22:38.02 | fishhead | over some paranoid dellussion that some meth dealer is going to buy 1 box of cold medicine to make meth |
| 22:38.19 | fishhead | so I have to suffer with allergies so freaking bad I have stopped breahting |
| 22:38.24 | fishhead | the hell with the whole lot of them |
| 22:38.34 | fishhead | i'm all for someone droping a big nuke right on dc |
| 22:38.48 | SpeedEvil | My fundamental problem with the patent system is the 'novel' requirement |
| 22:39.06 | SpeedEvil | which seems to be basically 'it's not been published'. |
| 22:39.23 | prpplague | fishhead: ok, we get the picture, lets move on to something else |
| 22:39.26 | SpeedEvil | Not 'anyone with a quarter of a clue could implement it in a half an hour in a number of obvious ways'. |
| 22:39.34 | fishhead | ok :P |
| 22:39.53 | SpeedEvil | I found a very silly patent about SAW displays - that patented... The Gasket! |
| 22:40.13 | SpeedEvil | The challenge was to find a gasket that diddn't absorb ultrasound. |
| 22:40.29 | SpeedEvil | So what anyone with a clue would do is wander round the lab, and try stuff. |
| 22:40.53 | SpeedEvil | and about the third thing they tried would be a foam gasket with a plastic cover. |
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| 22:49.48 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: hmm, wonder what the readership is like for makezine |
| 22:50.00 | CosmicPenguin | pretty high |
| 22:50.01 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: i.e. number of regular website visitors |
| 22:50.13 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: 50k ? or more? |
| 22:50.21 | CosmicPenguin | they may also publish a blurb in the print magazine too - the print magazine has a pretty good circulation, all things considered |
| 22:50.35 | CosmicPenguin | it is _the_ hacker / modifier magazine |
| 22:50.52 | prpplague | indeed |
| 22:54.47 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: https://store.dataevolution.com/ProductDetails.asp?ProductCode=DT%2D7002 |
| 22:56.02 | CosmicPenguin | hah |
| 22:57.02 | fishhead | that really frosts me |
| 22:57.17 | fishhead | we can have a illegal alien child molestor jump into the country |
| 22:57.23 | fishhead | fuck a bunch of kids up for life |
| 22:57.28 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: no os included, i wonder if that means the bios is linux usable |
| 22:57.33 | fishhead | but omg we gotta destroy a woman over 24 song downloads |
| 22:57.53 | prpplague | fishhead: only warning, keep the language down |
| 22:58.15 | CosmicPenguin | prpplague: it should be - I don't think they are using the disabled bios |
| 22:58.16 | fishhead | 010010101011001101010101 |
| 22:58.18 | fishhead | and your mom too |
| 22:58.20 | fishhead | :P |
| 22:58.24 | SpeedEvil | Alas - #politics is thatty way. |
| 22:58.44 | CosmicPenguin | though working around the restriction would be pretty trivial |
| 22:59.05 | adyer_ | is it bad to tell the i2c subsystem to transmit two messages and only give it one? ;-) |
| 22:59.29 | prpplague | adyer_: hehe, i suspect that it might cause problems |
| 22:59.38 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: almost worth it at that price |
| 23:00.04 | CosmicPenguin | you could get an XO and get the tax deduction for only a hundred bucks more |
| 23:00.27 | adyer_ | is that a GX or LX inside? |
| 23:00.29 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: yea, but i'd have 4 devices instead of one |
| 23:00.57 | CosmicPenguin | thats not 3 at that price |
| 23:00.58 | CosmicPenguin | is it? |
| 23:01.07 | prpplague | yep buy three get one free |
| 23:01.15 | CosmicPenguin | wow - that is pretty good |
| 23:01.32 | prpplague | exactly |
| 23:03.03 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: hmm, i'll have to think about that |
| 23:03.18 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: was going to get just a used laptop for my son, but i might go for that |
| 23:07.30 | SpeedEvil | On an other issue - does anyone know of any vendors of E-ink film? |
| 23:07.48 | SpeedEvil | e-ink.com are being annoying, and seeming like they want to build displays for me. |
| 23:09.07 | prpplague | interesting - http://www.dealextreme.com/details.dx/sku.9877 |
| 23:09.14 | prpplague | that would be cool to use with a hammer project |
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