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| 02:29.23 | prpplague | greetings all |
| 02:29.50 | prpplague | ahh time for a milk stout and check the email |
| 02:33.03 | joe_bleau | hey prpplague |
| 02:34.59 | prpplague | joe_bleau greetings |
| 02:35.04 | prpplague | joe_bleau whats cookin? |
| 02:36.05 | joe_bleau | checking up on some financial stuff, avoiding work, charging the ipod. (i.e. nothing much). |
| 02:36.16 | prpplague | hehe |
| 02:36.53 | joe_bleau | Hey, I tried to give your buildroot config a whirl. |
| 02:37.20 | prpplague | joe_bleau you did the download and tried to do the build? |
| 02:37.25 | prpplague | joe_bleau what happened? |
| 02:37.41 | joe_bleau | No, I didn't. Have you put it on the wiki yet? |
| 02:38.14 | prpplague | hmm, no i forgot v:( |
| 02:38.20 | prpplague | i'll do that in the morning |
| 02:38.50 | prpplague | joe_bleau been a little busy, we've been getting lots of orders and questions |
| 02:39.09 | joe_bleau | Well, half of that is a good sign. |
| 02:40.29 | prpplague | actually both are good signs |
| 02:40.39 | prpplague | if people are asking questions they are interested |
| 02:40.59 | prpplague | even the people who have beta units like GPSFan are still asking questions |
| 02:41.12 | prpplague | mainly because there is so much that can be done with the kit |
| 02:42.04 | joe_bleau | Is confusion the price of versatility? |
| 02:42.47 | prpplague | joe_bleau naw, i think once the details of how to explain the functionality, i think it will clear up |
| 02:43.08 | prpplague | joe_bleau the software people want more detailed info on how to do the basic hardware connections |
| 02:43.26 | prpplague | joe_bleau and the hardware people want more detailed info on how to do the basic software dev |
| 02:44.55 | prpplague | joe_bleau saw a juicebox in the bargain pile at k&b toys this evening |
| 02:45.04 | joe_bleau | Cheap? |
| 02:45.08 | prpplague | 5 |
| 02:45.12 | joe_bleau | Fair. |
| 02:45.21 | joe_bleau | I should get mine back out and play with it somemore. |
| 02:45.22 | prpplague | it was with the mp3 kit too |
| 02:46.05 | prpplague | hehe the JB was a great learning tool |
| 02:46.06 | joe_bleau | I can't remember if the cpu has an input capture function or not. |
| 02:46.17 | prpplague | input capture? |
| 02:46.20 | joe_bleau | If so, I've got a project in mind. (Assuming I every get time.) |
| 02:46.27 | joe_bleau | Yeah, high resolution timing. |
| 02:46.34 | prpplague | no, it doesn't |
| 02:46.49 | joe_bleau | Oh, too bad. |
| 02:46.53 | prpplague | indeed |
| 02:47.15 | prpplague | i don't know many larger arm cores that have high resolution timming inputs |
| 02:47.38 | joe_bleau | Anything positioned for auto engine control should. |
| 02:48.05 | prpplague | joe_bleau most of those i'm familiar with are mips based |
| 02:48.30 | joe_bleau | Really? I didn't know that they were into that area. |
| 02:51.31 | prpplague | well those are the ones i'm familiar with |
| 02:51.39 | joe_bleau | Such as? |
| 02:51.49 | joe_bleau | Come on man, throw me a bone here. |
| 02:52.10 | prpplague | i grabbed the cores from a couple of chevy vehicles |
| 02:53.43 | joe_bleau | Speaking of MIPS, I didn't see the microchip announcement for a few weeks. |
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| 16:04.32 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: greetings |
| 16:05.54 | chouimat|work | hi prpplague CosmicPenguin |
| 16:06.21 | prpplague | chouimat|work: greetings |
| 16:06.46 | prpplague | i wonder how people will know that "I Am Legend" is a remake |
| 16:09.06 | prpplague | s/how/ how many |
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| 16:10.27 | chouimat|work | prpplague: not many if you think of the huge amount of people that went to see Titanic just to see how it ends ;) |
| 16:10.37 | prpplague | hehe |
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| 18:13.20 | prpplague | interesting http://mcgath.blogspot.com/2005/05/cbcs-scam-operation.html |
| 18:13.42 | prpplague | my wife just that call at home |
| 18:13.52 | prpplague | my wife just got that call at home |
| 18:14.01 | SpeedEvil | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:14.01 | SpeedEvil | Sun 16:46:46.37 -22:22:25.3 259:11:59 -19:54:04 -27 0.0 8:26 12:03 11:30 15:40 |
| 18:14.01 | SpeedEvil | Moon 13:43:03.91 -15:59:09.0 305:01:33 -39:04:18 -10 -43.5 3:54 8:45 19:29 13:22 |
| 18:14.01 | SpeedEvil | Mercury 16:18:38.83 -21:33:13.0 265:21:38 -23:07:06 -0.7 -6.6 7:52 11:34 12:23 15:15 |
| 18:14.01 | SpeedEvil | Venus 13:55:18.81 -9:24:20.8 305:33:09 -31:51:33 -4.0 -43.0 4:03 9:11 24:31 14:18 |
| 18:14.05 | prpplague | which is funny since she's never had credit in the US |
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| 18:14.51 | SpeedEvil | oops - did I just flood? |
| 18:15.48 | prpplague | SpeedEvil: yea you need to keep that down |
| 18:16.05 | SpeedEvil | sorry - mispaste :/ |
| 18:16.32 | SpeedEvil | hope it killed my connect after the first couple of lines. |
| 18:17.09 | sunrunner20 | yea |
| 18:17.30 | sunrunner20 | 5lines |
| 18:17.41 | sunrunner20 | anybody here know C#? |
| 18:18.17 | chouimat|work | sunrunner20: it related to C and music :) |
| 18:18.29 | sunrunner20 | lol |
| 18:18.31 | sunrunner20 | touche |
| 18:18.35 | Crofton|work | some bad idea from MS? |
| 18:18.44 | sunrunner20 | its not that bad if you use mono :) |
| 18:19.07 | sunrunner20 | i'm going to dev an app with it |
| 18:19.29 | chouimat|work | sunrunner20: you mean the stuff from the guy who got rejected by MS and decided to copy everything they do? |
| 18:19.53 | sunrunner20 | mono is a open source .net implementation |
| 18:20.02 | sunrunner20 | runs on bsd/osx/windows/linux |
| 18:20.12 | chouimat|work | sunrunner20: i know |
| 18:20.41 | sunrunner20 | anyway |
| 18:20.52 | sunrunner20 | i'm sick and tired of making a schedule |
| 18:20.53 | sunrunner20 | so |
| 18:21.00 | sunrunner20 | i'm giong to make an app that does it for me |
| 18:23.00 | sunrunner20 | ya'll will hate me for this under cc noncommercial nondirivitive lic |
| 18:24.06 | chouimat|work | sunrunner20: i would the wtfpl ;) |
| 18:24.17 | sunrunner20 | ? |
| 18:24.40 | CosmicPenguin | prpplague: ping |
| 18:24.46 | sunrunner20 | oh |
| 18:24.46 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: pong |
| 18:24.48 | sunrunner20 | google ftw |
| 18:24.50 | chouimat|work | sunrunner20: sam.zoy.org/wtfpl/ (not worksafe) |
| 18:24.56 | CosmicPenguin | prpplague: you know of any commercial LPC emulators? |
| 18:25.07 | CosmicPenguin | or better yet - of any open source rendentions? |
| 18:25.29 | sunrunner20 | well I want to force schools to charge for it |
| 18:25.35 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: are you refering to the LPC arm7tdmi chips? |
| 18:25.37 | sunrunner20 | but i don't want to force students too |
| 18:25.44 | CosmicPenguin | no - LPC |
| 18:25.46 | CosmicPenguin | low pin count |
| 18:25.51 | CosmicPenguin | x86 |
| 18:26.00 | prpplague | oh |
| 18:26.05 | prpplague | sorry no |
| 18:27.30 | sunrunner20 | lol |
| 18:27.31 | sunrunner20 | "and it is in some places debatable whether someone who has not been dead for the last seventy years is entitled to put his own work in the public domain." |
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| 18:39.15 | SpeedEvil | I wonder if you can assign the copyright to Shakespear. |
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| 18:59.28 | ds2 | morning |
| 18:59.43 | ds2 | seems US Priority mail is faster then fedex ground |
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| 21:59.04 | prpplague | ho ho hum |
| 22:00.05 | cajaka | ? |
| 22:00.56 | prpplague | cajaka: just commenting on a wed afternoon |
| 22:01.20 | cajaka | Long day or longing for the weekend? |
| 22:01.21 | prpplague | cajaka: too much work to do, not enough time, office politics , you know that kind of stuff |
| 22:01.31 | cajaka | ah |
| 22:01.41 | ds2 | work faster ;) |
| 22:01.51 | prpplague | stressing over or EE dragging his feet |
| 22:02.08 | prpplague | i'm not used to having no hardware to work with |
| 22:03.05 | cajaka | ah |
| 22:04.09 | cajaka | Are you wanting on the next revision or a new product |
| 22:04.26 | prpplague | cajaka: i'm wanting ANY revision of a new product |
| 22:04.40 | cajaka | Ack, I see |
| 22:04.44 | ds2 | steal gerbers and make your own protorun ;) |
| 22:05.12 | prpplague | ds2: office politics |
| 22:05.19 | prpplague | ds2: can't exactly do that |
| 22:05.46 | ds2 | is this a green EE, right of skool? |
| 22:06.08 | prpplague | ds2: no |
| 22:06.37 | SpeedEvil | prpplague: has he explicitly said 'it has to be perfect, we're only doing one run'? |
| 22:07.17 | prpplague | SpeedEvil: no, just don't ever see any progress |
| 22:07.34 | ds2 | is this a analog board? |
| 22:08.03 | SpeedEvil | prpplague: do you have other projects you can get on with, or are you stalled? |
| 22:09.22 | prpplague | SpeedEvil: we are pretty much stalled |
| 22:09.30 | SpeedEvil | :/ |
| 22:09.31 | prpplague | ds2: some analog, mostly digital |
| 22:09.49 | SpeedEvil | have you told your managers exactly how much being stalled is costing you? |
| 22:10.13 | prpplague | SpeedEvil: like i said office politics, is not exactly that easy to just point it out |
| 22:11.08 | ds2 | is he at least on time according to the Project file? |
| 22:26.56 | GPSFan | prpplague: quick question, which kernel driver goes with that small webcam you got working with the Hammer? |
| 22:27.03 | prpplague | ds2: thats part of the problem, we've never had a problem knocking out the hardware, so its never been laid out on the a schedule |
| 22:27.17 | prpplague | GPSFan: thats a darn good question |
| 22:27.24 | prpplague | GPSFan: i'd have to look |
| 22:27.30 | prpplague | actually |
| 22:27.46 | prpplague | hapchap: you know which kernel driver is used with that cheapy webcam you used? |
| 22:28.21 | CosmicPenguin | that wasn't very nice |
| 22:29.03 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: ? |
| 22:32.40 | SpeedEvil | prpplague: lsusb |
| 22:33.13 | SpeedEvil | err |
| 22:33.17 | SpeedEvil | GPSFan: lsusb |
| 22:34.56 | GPSFan | SpeedEvil: that assumes that I have one and that the driver is installed in the kernel that I'm using, which would mean I already know the answer. |
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| 22:35.15 | SpeedEvil | yeah - I know, I got confused |
| 22:37.20 | ds2 | lsusb only assumes you have one, not that you know the driver ;) |
| 22:41.15 | GPSFan | ds2: but with the mfgr & prod id from lsusb, I could look that info up myself without having to bother prpplague. since I don't have one of those cam's I can't lsusb. so bothering prpplague is waranted. |
| 22:41.55 | SpeedEvil | Annoyingly, as with many other things, cameras can change internals without changing externals. |
| 22:42.02 | CosmicPenguin | I think GPSFan is more then capapble of figuring stuff out when he has the hardware in hand |
| 22:42.28 | GPSFan | CosmicPenguin: sometimes we all need native guides. ;>) |
| 22:42.49 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: what wasn't very nice? |
| 22:42.53 | prpplague | GPSFan: looking now |
| 22:43.05 | CosmicPenguin | You weren't very nice to hapchap |
| 22:43.14 | GPSFan | prpplague: thanks.. |
| 22:43.33 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: whys that? |
| 22:49.52 | prpplague | GPSFan: spca5xx |
| 22:50.06 | ds2 | that's the driver for those $5 usb cams |
| 22:50.26 | GPSFan | prpplague: will add it to the wiki. |
| 22:52.24 | GPSFan | added. |
| 22:58.46 | SpeedEvil | which $5 cams? |
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| 23:23.35 | hapchap | SpeedEvil: I was using the gspca driver which worked really well |
| 23:24.12 | hapchap | SpeedEvil: the web cams that i had working with it were all made by TAIDE |
| 23:24.43 | hapchap | SpeedEvil: they have a lot different plastics with the exact same internals |
| 23:24.51 | SpeedEvil | where from? |
| 23:24.57 | hapchap | SpeedEvil: geeks.com i think |
| 23:25.21 | SpeedEvil | really cheap cameras seem rare over here. |
| 23:25.23 | SpeedEvil | (UK) |
| 23:25.29 | SpeedEvil | the cheapest are around $15 |
| 23:25.36 | SpeedEvil | and many of those are only worth $5 |
| 23:25.49 | SpeedEvil | '1.3 megapixel' (really CIF) |
| 23:25.52 | hapchap | SpeedEvil: mind you, these werent even VGA, they are that odd original web cam resolution |
| 23:26.15 | hapchap | SpeedEvil: when prpplague said "cheapy" he _was_ being nice |
| 23:26.55 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: hehe, not sure if you saw that hapchap works at aml |
| 23:27.11 | CosmicPenguin | I know that |
| 23:27.17 | CosmicPenguin | I wouldn't be very happy if a co-worker treated me like that |
| 23:27.25 | hapchap | CosmicPenguin: meh |
| 23:28.29 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: hehe, thats ok, i only use a taser on hapchap once a week |
| 23:28.40 | hapchap | twice if im nice |
| 23:28.50 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: more than that he drools at the engineering meetings |
| 23:30.29 | hapchap | prpplague: i cant come up with a witty reply as its 5:30 |
| 23:30.40 | prpplague | hapchap: hehe |
| 23:30.46 | prpplague | hapchap: beer time |
| 23:30.48 | prpplague | hapchap: oh |
| 23:30.49 | hapchap | prpplague: im out |
| 23:31.01 | hapchap | prpplague: ? |
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| 23:38.31 | ds2 | SpeedEvil: yes, $5 USB cams |
| 23:38.58 | ds2 | let me get URL of the ones i got |
| 23:40.44 | ds2 | hmmm price went up to $9.99 |
| 23:41.02 | ds2 | http://www.geeks.com/details.asp?invtid=PC002&cat=VID |
| 23:41.08 | ds2 | they used be about $5 |
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