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| 01:02.12 | sunrunner20 | "GET FREE PORN AT HTTP://192.168.0.101:456 !!!" |
| 01:02.12 | sunrunner20 | stupid script kiddies-don't even check for internal IPs |
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| 06:07.41 | flyback | (01:01:45) ShortWave: How many points are bike-riding sysadmins again? |
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| 16:30.49 | prpplague | ho ho ho |
| 16:30.55 | prpplague | merry freakin sunday |
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| 16:52.14 | GPSFan | prpplague: g'day.. |
| 16:54.31 | chouimat|busy | prpplague: HAAAAAAAAAAAA!\ |
| 17:10.16 | prpplague | whats cookin folks? |
| 17:10.47 | prpplague | chouimat|busy hey, what is the name of that darn place down there in the square? i always want to call it "the cellar" but that isn't correct |
| 17:11.08 | prpplague | GPSFan doing farm things today? |
| 17:13.53 | GPSFan | prpplague: in the am. we got 2" of snow last night, not enough to need to plow the driveway. doing a bit of hacking on my n770. |
| 17:14.44 | prpplague | GPSFan fun fun |
| 17:15.38 | GPSFan | prpplague: maybe some skiing next week ;>) |
| 17:16.01 | prpplague | cool |
| 17:17.10 | prpplague | GPSFan cool |
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| 17:17.31 | prpplague | GPSFan brother and i used to ski telluride before it was "discovered" |
| 17:18.31 | GPSFan | yeah, now it's impossable to afford (so are most areas here, but I got a 7 day pass for $259) |
| 17:18.40 | prpplague | jeeze |
| 17:19.02 | GPSFan | normally $87/day ;>((((( |
| 17:19.09 | prpplague | bummer |
| 17:19.18 | prpplague | its become a big biz |
| 17:19.33 | GPSFan | but. it's some of the best skiing there is. |
| 17:19.47 | prpplague | ho ho hum |
| 17:20.43 | prpplague | GPSFan totally depressed this weekend, money is tight for the xmas holidays, car got damaged by the UPS delivery guy, got tons of work to do for the hammer board, and our main EE at work is not doing his job |
| 17:20.45 | prpplague | :( |
| 17:21.13 | GPSFan | how is interest in the Hammer? |
| 17:21.52 | prpplague | good so far, the primary problem appears to be documentation and information about what you can actually do with the hammer |
| 17:22.15 | prpplague | GPSFan software people aren't sure what hardware is needed, and the hardware people aren't sure what software is needed |
| 17:22.57 | GPSFan | some folks need to be lead by the hand, both hw & sw. innovation is becoming a lost art. |
| 17:23.16 | prpplague | indeed it seems that way |
| 17:26.25 | prpplague | GPSFan seems almost everyone is confused about the flyswatter |
| 17:27.35 | GPSFan | maybe it should have been 2 boards. jtag and usb-serial. or maybe just forget the usb-serial and let folks find their own, or use a serial port. |
| 17:28.12 | prpplague | GPSFan thats just the thing, the ft2232 is design to do be both, be alot more expensive to do both |
| 17:28.37 | prpplague | GPSFan basically you are buying the jtag portion getting the rs-232 free |
| 17:29.24 | prpplague | GPSFan tom was suppose to have put his z2 board in the over this weekend |
| 17:29.28 | GPSFan | sure, maybe just tell people it's just a jtag, and let the smart ones "discover" the rs232 part. ;>) |
| 17:30.14 | prpplague | GPSFan yea, the problem is that we've already started getting problems with people using usb->rs-232 adapters that don't work well |
| 17:30.28 | prpplague | GPSFan if they get the flyswatter we have a base to work from |
| 17:31.22 | GPSFan | prpplague: haven't heard how tom made out with it, the zipit people have been supposed to get the kernel & gpl stuff up on the net RSN, for the last week. |
| 17:31.50 | prpplague | GPSFan i wouldn't hold your breath |
| 17:32.19 | GPSFan | indeed. |
| 17:34.18 | GPSFan | prpplague: once tom has the board de-pop'd we can figure out the expansion connector and see if hacking is possible. without any mods, it is supposed to support booting a "complete" system off the SD card. |
| 17:34.37 | prpplague | GPSFan the gumstix stuff has been around long enough to build up some faq's and anticipate the kinds of newbie questions people are expecting |
| 17:35.14 | prpplague | GPSFan yea, i suspect their engineers took some lessons from our previous hacking |
| 17:35.30 | GPSFan | yeah, I see the hammer as filling in a niche that the gumstick folks don't want to be bothered with. |
| 17:36.30 | prpplague | yea, we just need to get more people posting projects and some more howtos |
| 17:36.49 | prpplague | i think we are going to try and give away about another 10 or 12 units for projects |
| 17:37.54 | GPSFan | rapid prototyping (~1 week from concept to demo) is a key area. unfortunately that's where all the innovation comes in and where companies are unwilling to share those concepts. |
| 17:38.20 | prpplague | GPSFan indeed |
| 17:38.37 | prpplague | GPSFan thats kinda why i'm thinking we are going to have to do some give aways |
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| 17:38.53 | GPSFan | how about a contest? |
| 17:38.56 | prpplague | GPSFan also i'm talking to the boss about a design contest maybe in conjunction with circuit cellar |
| 17:39.06 | GPSFan | ;>) |
| 17:39.09 | prpplague | GPSFan indeed |
| 17:40.09 | prpplague | i've got a couple hacks in the works,but like i said, i've been totally depressed the last few weeks, so my productivity level has been low |
| 17:40.51 | GPSFan | well at least your family is here. and not in current danger of being "exported" |
| 17:41.02 | prpplague | hehe indeede |
| 17:41.16 | prpplague | GPSFan atleast that nightmare has come to an end for now |
| 17:41.35 | prpplague | GPSFan donna has another 2 years and 7 months before she can apply for citizenship |
| 17:43.17 | GPSFan | same for the kids? (hers) |
| 17:44.13 | prpplague | the kids are US citizens by birth |
| 17:46.14 | GPSFan | good deal... |
| 17:47.51 | GPSFan | bbl.. |
| 17:48.14 | chouimat|busy | prpplague: the vineyard |
| 17:48.23 | prpplague | ahh yea thats it |
| 17:48.34 | prpplague | chouimat|busy dont know why i never can remeber that |
| 17:48.56 | chouimat|busy | prpplague: I think I will go next week after work ... 2 minutes walk :) |
| 17:48.57 | prpplague | chouimat|busy one of donnas cousins just got married to a guy from ottawa |
| 17:49.21 | prpplague | chouimat|busy she up there with him right now, but she's having trouble adjusting |
| 17:49.56 | chouimat|busy | prpplague: the 40cm of snow are probably not helping ... |
| 17:50.16 | prpplague | chouimat|busy hehe, i think its the "family" thing |
| 17:50.32 | prpplague | chouimat|busy i've noticed that the girls from barbados are very very family oriented |
| 17:50.51 | prpplague | chouimat|busy not used to being anonymous amount millions |
| 17:50.56 | chouimat|busy | prpplague: and guys from the north are more "job" oriented :) |
| 17:51.04 | prpplague | ineed |
| 17:51.32 | prpplague | s/amount/among |
| 17:51.52 | chouimat|busy | prpplague: ottawa is not too big ... imagine her adapting in New York city :) |
| 17:52.28 | prpplague | indeed |
| 17:53.13 | prpplague | chouimat|busy a stop at the vinyard would be nice today |
| 17:53.22 | prpplague | chouimat|busy pretty heavy snow there now? |
| 17:54.56 | chouimat|busy | prpplague: about 40cm on the ground ... huge snowstorm last monday. normaly from my apartment it take 30-35 minutes to get downtown ... it took 1 hour |
| 17:55.40 | prpplague | hehe, rachel ( Donnas cousin) is probably going nuts |
| 17:55.51 | chouimat|busy | prpplague: and the normal for this date is 9cm |
| 17:56.17 | prpplague | wind chill bad? |
| 17:57.06 | prpplague | chouimat|busy ok so correct me here, iirc didn't you used to live in montreal? |
| 17:57.16 | chouimat|busy | no ... currently it's about -4C outside ... -8C with the wind chill ... was -26C last thursday morning |
| 17:57.23 | chouimat|busy | prpplague: Quebec City |
| 17:57.26 | prpplague | ahh |
| 17:57.37 | prpplague | donna has about 20 cousins in montreal |
| 17:57.46 | prpplague | don't think she has any in quebec city |
| 17:58.43 | chouimat|busy | prpplague: I think I will go fetch a cold one in the fridge and go back to my book ... I wonder why they want to ban it and boycott the movie (golden compass) |
| 17:59.31 | prpplague | chouimat|busy hehe, that is something for debate |
| 17:59.31 | prpplague | chouimat|busy later |
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| 17:59.42 | prpplague | isenbeck hey hey bud |
| 17:59.48 | chouimat|busy | prpplague: I find the books extremely entertaining |
| 17:59.51 | prpplague | isenbeck whatcha doing ? |
| 18:00.18 | prpplague | chouimat|busy yea i;ve not read it or seen the movie, i want to before i let the kids see it |
| 18:00.48 | isenbeck | prpplague, compiling a gameserver emu so that my son can play |
| 18:01.04 | isenbeck | WoW |
| 18:01.11 | isenbeck | there i said it |
| 18:01.17 | prpplague | hehe |
| 18:01.40 | chouimat|busy | prpplague: personnaly I don't think they will notice the "antireligon" message in it ... they will just be amazed by the story :) |
| 18:03.08 | prpplague | chouimat|busy well i might agree with you for most kids, however both my kids are very intuitive about themes in movies, i blame myself for over analyzing movies |
| 18:03.34 | prpplague | isenbeck whats cookin today? |
| 18:03.57 | chouimat|busy | prpplague: I stopped analyzing movie because I found out I stopped enjoying them if I did |
| 18:04.28 | isenbeck | I am cloning trix box drive and supposed to be working on another trix box here in the corp office |
| 18:04.42 | chouimat|busy | prpplague: and beside that after a day of analysing stuff at work I need to put my brain on off :) |
| 18:04.54 | prpplague | isenbeck ahh fun fun, i assume the kids are with jill? |
| 18:05.01 | isenbeck | prpplague, yeah |
| 18:05.08 | isenbeck | prpplague, i gotta go get 'em at 2 |
| 18:05.23 | prpplague | isenbeck fun fun, she given any more trouble lately? |
| 18:05.44 | isenbeck | prpplague, naw.. she has realized that the only thing i am going to listen to is the judge |
| 18:05.44 | prpplague | isenbeck freakin UPS driver backed into my car at the office on friday |
| 18:05.53 | prpplague | good deal |
| 18:05.57 | isenbeck | prpplague, the new one ? |
| 18:06.04 | prpplague | yep |
| 18:06.16 | prpplague | damaged the bummper and the fender well |
| 18:06.20 | isenbeck | prpplague, our ups driver is sooooooo hot |
| 18:06.21 | prpplague | was pissed |
| 18:06.25 | prpplague | hehe |
| 18:06.27 | isenbeck | prpplague, she's about 30 |
| 18:06.34 | chouimat|busy | isenbeck: any picture? |
| 18:06.40 | isenbeck | prpplague, long and brunette |
| 18:06.48 | chouimat|busy | isenbeck: any picture? |
| 18:07.06 | isenbeck | chouimat|busy, naw...... but i'll work on that |
| 18:07.07 | prpplague | chouimat|busy hehe, i figured you'd ask for pics of donnas cousins in montreal and ottawa |
| 18:07.40 | chouimat|busy | prpplague: and I wonder why I didn't ask :) |
| 18:07.44 | prpplague | hehe |
| 18:08.13 | prpplague | chouimat|busy hmm, lets see, i don't know if i have an email addy for you these days |
| 18:08.58 | *** mode/#edev [+o prpplague] by ChanServ |
| 18:09.08 | chouimat|busy | prpplague: you should see the director of marketing and communication at work ... she's hot |
| 18:09.26 | prpplague | hmm i wonder if there is a good online site like pastebin that i can pics on |
| 18:10.54 | prpplague | http://imagebin.ca/view/9HfxsYjs.html |
| 18:10.57 | prpplague | how about that |
| 18:11.01 | chouimat|busy | prpplague: btw I got the xmas gift for my 2 year old niece ... a nice box of 400 crayons |
| 18:11.17 | prpplague | hehe |
| 18:11.36 | isenbeck | chouimat|busy, sounds like you have payback in mind ;) |
| 18:11.38 | chouimat|busy | prpplague: and you know where the crayons will end |
| 18:11.46 | chouimat|busy | isenbeck: yup |
| 18:11.54 | chouimat|busy | prpplague: nice |
| 18:12.29 | prpplague | hehe |
| 18:12.56 | prpplague | chouimat|busy hehe her facebook page is filled with hot pics |
| 18:13.27 | prpplague | isenbeck you need hook up with my brother, he's got a ton of hot chicks wanting him to do maxim style photoshoots |
| 18:13.52 | isenbeck | prpplague, oh my |
| 18:14.11 | prpplague | isenbeck seen his website lately? |
| 18:14.22 | isenbeck | prpplague, not lately |
| 18:14.32 | isenbeck | prpplague, the last time i looked it took me a week to recover |
| 18:14.39 | chouimat|busy | isenbeck: my sister's boyfriend is the kind of guy to get mad if stuff are on the floor, so he always putting my niece's toys away and my niece is behind him getting the toy out on the floor |
| 18:15.41 | isenbeck | chouimat|busy, sounds to me like a little personality conflict between the BF and the niece |
| 18:16.45 | chouimat|busy | isenbeck: and she's 2 years old ... imagine when she will be 16 :) |
| 18:17.23 | isenbeck | chouimat|busy, my stepdaughter stopped talking to me when she was about 14 |
| 18:17.42 | chouimat|busy | isenbeck: and the BF is the father of my niece :) |
| 18:17.43 | isenbeck | chouimat|busy, then she realized her mother was a loon when she was around 16 |
| 18:18.22 | isenbeck | chouimat|busy, i love my kids to leave messes |
| 18:18.31 | isenbeck | it's like having them around all the time |
| 18:18.40 | prpplague | http://imagebin.ca/view/RWuioZG0.html |
| 18:18.47 | isenbeck | chouimat|busy, and for everythjng they leave on the floor |
| 18:18.52 | chouimat|busy | isenbeck: true it make the place more lively |
| 18:18.57 | isenbeck | chouimat|busy, it costs them a dollar |
| 18:19.15 | prpplague | http://imagebin.ca/view/pn-UCw8q.html |
| 18:20.40 | prpplague | chouimat|busy here is the one in ottawa - http://imagebin.ca/view/FfD6A0q.html |
| 18:20.57 | isenbeck | i gotta go check my clone job |
| 18:21.03 | prpplague | isenbeck hehe |
| 18:21.24 | chouimat|busy | prpplague: nice I definitly need to go in Barbados :) |
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| 18:22.17 | prpplague | chouimat|busy like i said, they aren't there |
| 18:22.50 | chouimat|busy | prpplague: true ... but if there a good sample of what is there ... |
| 18:22.50 | prpplague | chouimat|busy a ton of donna's cousins are moving to canada |
| 18:22.55 | prpplague | hehe |
| 18:23.20 | prpplague | chouimat|busy only about 1% of the population are light skinned |
| 18:23.41 | chouimat|shower | prpplague: those pictues are nice ... |
| 18:24.15 | prpplague | chouimat|shower hehe indeed |
| 18:34.29 | joe_bleau | prpplague: didya ever upload the buildroot image? |
| 18:42.36 | prpplague | joe_bleau no, been totally swampped with PR and writing docs |
| 18:42.47 | joe_bleau | Oh. |
| 18:43.00 | joe_bleau | Incidentally, I didn't see any hammer press in the latest CCI. |
| 18:43.09 | joe_bleau | I'll bet they'll run one if you submit it. |
| 18:43.23 | prpplague | CCI? |
| 18:43.36 | joe_bleau | sorry, that's 'cool talk' for Cicuit Cellar Ink. |
| 18:43.45 | joe_bleau | You do know about Circuit Cellar Ink, right? |
| 18:44.49 | prpplague | yea, just normally refer to it as just CC |
| 18:45.38 | prpplague | joe_bleau we have plans to submit to CC, but its my understanding that unless you purchase advertising with them, that they are less than inclined to post info on your products |
| 18:46.15 | joe_bleau | I'm sure an ad buy increases the chances of running a press release. |
| 18:46.20 | joe_bleau | But I doubt that they require it. |
| 18:47.29 | joe_bleau | Looking over the latest releases in the new product news section, I doubt that they all advertise in CCI. |
| 18:47.52 | prpplague | indeed |
| 18:48.14 | prpplague | joe_bleau i don;t handle any of that end of things, i'm more on the community side of stuff |
| 18:48.39 | joe_bleau | Sure. I'll bet y'all have a whole department of people to handle things like that. |
| 18:48.58 | joe_bleau | Just saying that CCI might be a good place to reach potential customers. |
| 18:52.30 | prpplague | joe_bleau actually no, tincantools is a spin off from aml, so right now, its just getting started |
| 18:52.45 | prpplague | joe_bleau they are basically just looking to see if there is a market for these items |
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| 19:11.25 | prpplague | T0mW hey |
| 19:11.33 | T0mW | ho! |
| 19:11.36 | prpplague | T0mW you get that z2 in the oven? |
| 19:12.09 | T0mW | no, got a new server that I'm configuring and writing firewall / routing rules for... :( |
| 19:12.16 | prpplague | ahh |
| 19:12.53 | T0mW | I'm going to hold off a little on that, it looks like zipitwireless is about to reveal their info about the Z2 |
| 19:13.22 | prpplague | yea thats what GPSFan said |
| 19:13.51 | prpplague | hehe |
| 19:14.14 | T0mW | it's the little things you have to celebrate |
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| 20:09.02 | T0mW | prpplague: so, that is the real-deal |
| 20:09.56 | prpplague | yep |
| 20:12.20 | T0mW | I have the electronics built and wired to the LCD for the HammerLCD board proto #2, just am not going to see any time to do something with it for a few more weeks. |
| 20:12.37 | prpplague | okie dokie |
| 20:12.59 | T0mW | this whole system upgrade at the KFC stores is unexpected. It was sort of sudden. |
| 20:14.32 | T0mW | prpplague: I was working all day Thursday through Saturday getting freakin computers built, then deployed, then we have a new cable modem interface that was installed at the main server location... GAK! I need some downtime but that isn't going to happen soon! |
| 20:16.24 | prpplague | T0mW feast or famin |
| 20:18.35 | T0mW | ya |
| 20:18.52 | T0mW | prpplague: I am having fun though, nice to be "needed" |
| 20:19.27 | chouimat | grmbbbl |
| 20:21.30 | prpplague | T0mW hehe indeed |
| 20:21.42 | prpplague | T0mW my problem is i have too many things i want to do |
| 20:22.09 | prpplague | T0mW and i've been totally depressed for the last couple of weeks so my productivity has been in the tnak |
| 20:22.12 | prpplague | tank |
| 20:23.54 | chouimat | prpplague: mine is going up ... it's fun to be appreciated at work ... it's a nice change |
| 20:24.02 | T0mW | Well, I fight that too, letting things close in on me. I just have some really bad times in my life when things were really bad. When I start to get depressed, I just remember just how bad it can be and that it is not so bad now. |
| 20:25.00 | T0mW | Law of Attraction: if you expect bad things to happen, they will. If you expect the good to come your way, it will. |
| 20:25.07 | chouimat | T0mW: I think i'm about to be back in a depressed state ... I start to think everybody is a moron ... not a good sign |
| 20:25.15 | T0mW | LOL |
| 20:25.35 | T0mW | chouimat: yeah, nice to be in control of the world, isn't it? |
| 20:26.06 | chouimat | T0mW: yup and I'm about to put it out of my misery ... ok where I put those launch code :) |
| 20:28.02 | T0mW | LOL |
| 20:28.31 | T0mW | prpplague: I had a pretty dramatic power supply failure on one of the new computers I was working on. |
| 20:29.17 | chouimat | crap ... the neighbor is listening to crappy music ... |
| 20:29.26 | T0mW | prpplague: A friend was over visiting and we were talking. I had one of the computers sitting on the workbench running and suddenly all this white smoke just comes pouring out of the computer! It was quite impressive! |
| 20:30.14 | T0mW | I had this huge cloud of smoke in the room. |
| 20:31.53 | T0mW | MonMotha: ping |
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| 20:44.45 | isenbeck | prpplague, i just got banned from #ascent |
| 20:44.54 | isenbeck | prpplague, i am proud |
| 20:50.28 | prpplague | hehe |
| 20:50.36 | prpplague | isenbeck what did you do? |
| 20:51.03 | prpplague | T0mW fun fun |
| 20:51.19 | prpplague | anyone still alive? |
| 20:51.23 | isenbeck | prpplague, i was asking one of the folks to listen to what i had done and then perhaps help me understand why my app was seg faulting |
| 20:51.40 | isenbeck | prpplague, one of the other guys piped in and was a smart a$$ |
| 20:51.47 | isenbeck | prpplague, he called me a fag |
| 20:51.52 | prpplague | jeeze |
| 20:52.15 | isenbeck | prpplague, i lost it and told him he was prolly a winblows loser |
| 20:52.31 | isenbeck | prpplague, and i called him an ass clown |
| 20:52.46 | isenbeck | prpplague, then i got kicked and banned |
| 20:52.49 | prpplague | hehe |
| 20:53.06 | isenbeck | prpplague, i got no time for holier than thou script kiddies |
| 20:53.40 | isenbeck | prpplague, oh well |
| 20:53.46 | prpplague | yea thats what i say |
| 20:54.02 | isenbeck | prpplague, the ex just told me that if i knew what was good for me that i would give her the kids back |
| 20:54.13 | prpplague | jeeze |
| 20:54.22 | isenbeck | prpplague, she said she was gonna take me back to court and the "woe is me" |
| 20:54.31 | prpplague | HAHA |
| 20:54.40 | isenbeck | prpplague, then she asked me if she could keep the kids for two more hours |
| 20:54.44 | isenbeck | prpplague, heh |
| 20:54.53 | prpplague | isenbeck one sec, donna needs to check her facebook |
| 21:02.02 | prpplague | ok back |
| 21:02.20 | prpplague | hmm, is there a channel for people doing dev for space research? |
| 21:02.36 | isenbeck | prpplague, man no clue |
| 21:03.14 | prpplague | had a real interesting idea i'd like to throw out |
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| 21:03.57 | isenbeck | prpplague, well ? |
| 21:04.19 | prpplague | oh didn't think it would be interesting here |
| 21:04.40 | prpplague | basically i was watching the documentary about mars trup |
| 21:05.07 | prpplague | and i was thinking, that to they'd need to bring lots of spare computing parts |
| 21:05.33 | prpplague | but if you had something like a computing brick, you could just carry one computer part |
| 21:06.03 | prpplague | and if something happened and you really needed a brick, since they were all the same, you could scavenge one from another system |
| 21:06.53 | prpplague | and on top of the hardware you'd have the OS with a very simplist scripting language |
| 21:07.49 | isenbeck | prpplague, one computing component being identical to all of the others for the sake of fault tolerance |
| 21:07.56 | prpplague | i.e. lets say a solar panel is positioned in the wrong direction, you grab a brick, use the scripts to generate an interaction to move the solar panel |
| 21:08.02 | prpplague | indeed |
| 21:08.31 | prpplague | i was thinking more of stuff like accidents |
| 21:09.07 | prpplague | more like " oh s@#$ " we have massive failure somewhere and unless we 'hotwire' something we are screwed" |
| 21:09.42 | isenbeck | prpplague, and/or, the crew has a few of said bricks around that have everything they need to alter and or run any of the systems needed for survival or success |
| 21:09.46 | chouimat | BOOM! |
| 21:10.03 | prpplague | exactly |
| 21:11.49 | prpplague | the big thing would be to have a ready scriptable interface to do the interactions in very short period of time |
| 21:12.17 | kajca | Scripts for the device would be stored on the devices themselves or the brick? |
| 21:12.28 | isenbeck | prpplague, not to get off the subject, but do you or have you had any experience with svn ? |
| 21:12.52 | isenbeck | prpplague, each system would need an interface that could establish comm with the brick so as to take commands |
| 21:12.55 | prpplague | cajaka i'm thinking on the brick |
| 21:13.06 | prpplague | isenbeck yep |
| 21:13.51 | prpplague | isenbeck most of the devices that would be on a ship are going to use protocols such as spi, i2c and other low power, low pin could bus interfaces |
| 21:14.04 | isenbeck | prpplague, and so the brick(s) would function much the same way a program mod functions in terms of vehicle computers or aerospace nav systems |
| 21:15.24 | prpplague | yes, but they could also be built up in a tree of devices, which something like one brick controls life support and another controls power suystems and they are both tied to a third brick for co-ordianation |
| 21:16.20 | prpplague | if all the main systems are using this, then the code function calls would already be writen and could be shorten down to simple calls |
| 21:16.57 | prpplague | i.e. in the case of the solar panel, you'd do a call to init the motor, a call to check the power output of the panel, and then a call to rotate to panel |
| 21:17.21 | prpplague | simple script look to tweak the position for optimal power output |
| 21:18.09 | prpplague | additional modules could be snapped together to the brick to give lcd/touch and wireless |
| 21:18.31 | prpplague | if the brick is powerfull enough, you could even do SDR for radio communications |
| 21:21.25 | prpplague | actually come to think of it, seems like Uhura on star trek once made a comment about having circuits larger than they needed to be so they could do hacks and repairs on the fly |
| 21:24.10 | prpplague | ho ho hum |
| 21:25.29 | joe_bleau | Hey, you could make these modules the size of hockey pucks, and stick USB connectors on the quadrents and faces! |
| 21:25.29 | prpplague | thoughts? |
| 21:25.44 | prpplague | joe_bleau hehe |
| 21:26.22 | chouimat | joe_bleau: he better make them though because the day he will sales them in canada ... |
| 21:26.43 | cajaka | Depending on how much computing power the brick would need you might be able to modify a stock PDA to do something like this |
| 21:27.29 | prpplague | joe_bleau as the apollo 13 incident reminded us, round doesn't work well |
| 21:27.52 | chouimat | prpplague: hehe |
| 21:27.53 | joe_bleau | Oh? I don't think I get it. |
| 21:28.02 | prpplague | cajaka indeed, but i have plenty of hardware to do what i need |
| 21:28.35 | prpplague | joe_bleau the CO2 scrubber filters for the landers were round and the CO2 filters for the return vehicle were square |
| 21:28.51 | joe_bleau | gotcha. |
| 21:28.53 | prpplague | joe_bleau after that incident, all major components have to be one or the other |
| 21:28.57 | cajaka | True, I am just thinking in the hypothetical. |
| 21:29.07 | chouimat | prpplague: and I wonder which kind of moron decided this :) |
| 21:29.09 | prpplague | joe_bleau with most be square so they fit into spaces easier |
| 21:29.26 | prpplague | chouimat two seperate teams |
| 21:29.36 | chouimat | prpplague: I know ... |
| 21:29.42 | prpplague | chouimat ah ok |
| 21:29.45 | prpplague | :) |
| 21:30.14 | prpplague | cajaka indeed, if were to start with something, i'd use the hammer ofcourse |
| 21:30.43 | joe_bleau | Hammer: $150. Rad hard space qual'd hammer: $150k? |
| 21:31.01 | prpplague | joe_bleau sorry didn't understand that |
| 21:31.18 | joe_bleau | Wouldn't it need to be radiation hardened? |
| 21:31.31 | joe_bleau | I guess that would depend on the mission length, too. |
| 21:31.50 | prpplague | joe_bleau indeed it would need to be, but all the components we used are available in extreme condition parts |
| 21:32.04 | prpplague | joe_bleau remember it was design originally for an industrial application |
| 21:32.41 | prpplague | joe_bleau mars will be atleast 18 months and from most estimates it will be around 30 months |
| 21:33.31 | joe_bleau | The RAD750 (rad hard PPC750) runs for $200k, according to Wikipedia. Must be a system, not a single chip, however. |
| 21:33.54 | prpplague | joe_bleau which brings up another point, once they land on mars they can grab the bricks used for X and reuse them for Y untill time to leave |
| 21:34.19 | prpplague | joe_bleau yea i'd have to look |
| 21:34.29 | prpplague | wonder what boards are used on the mars rovers |
| 21:34.39 | joe_bleau | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/RAD6000 |
| 21:34.54 | joe_bleau | $200-$300k/board! |
| 21:35.29 | joe_bleau | Xilinx has done a lot of work with their FPGAs...wonder how they compare. |
| 21:42.21 | chouimat | joe_bleau: I don't want to be the guy in charge of QA for those board |
| 22:07.23 | prpplague | ho ho hum |
| 22:09.41 | prpplague | chouimat|away still around? |
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| 22:20.12 | prpplague | chouimat|away if you show up, you sent me a url for cartoon about programmers drinking and a graph, you remember the url? |
| 22:23.04 | cajaka | Was It done with stick figures? |
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| 22:25.36 | prpplague | cajaka yep that was it, thanks |
| 22:26.36 | agaffney | prpplague: you talking about the xkcd one? |
| 22:26.44 | agaffney | the "Ballmer Peak"? |
| 22:27.13 | agaffney | http://xkcd.com/323/ |
| 22:27.15 | prpplague | yea thats it |
| 22:27.18 | prpplague | thanks |
| 22:27.26 | prpplague | wanted to show that to my brother |
| 22:27.28 | agaffney | heh |
| 22:27.36 | agaffney | xkcd is good stuff :P |
| 22:27.55 | prpplague | funny, he was just at the casino and playing blackjack |
| 22:28.12 | prpplague | he basically was telling me the exact same thing about his blackjack playing |
| 22:28.29 | agaffney | heh |
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| 22:37.20 | prpplague | dijenerate whats cookin in barbados today? |
| 22:37.32 | prpplague | dijenerate finally found a place locally to get roti skins |
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