| 00:10.38 | SpeedEvil | Tigerplug: I assume it's not a mass-storage device? |
| 00:14.10 | RobotGuy | SpeedEvil: It's a multimedia (MP3/Video/etc) player. |
| 00:15.03 | SpeedEvil | I haven't been living under a rock for hte last 17 years. |
| 00:15.23 | SpeedEvil | I was meaning - does it not support mass-storage mode to copy files on/off. |
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| 00:16.16 | RobotGuy | SpeedEvil: It does, but whether that support extends to Linux/UNIX or not, I don't know. |
| 00:16.41 | SpeedEvil | If it's just a mass-storage device, then you can simply copy on/off |
| 00:16.50 | SpeedEvil | it appearts as just another SCSI drive. |
| 00:17.56 | RobotGuy | If this is the case, support should be automatic, which apparently does not seem to be the case. |
| 00:19.09 | RobotGuy | Generic SCSI disk and/or possibly USB support should be all that is needed. |
| 00:20.51 | RobotGuy | I am stuck with Hammer for now, so I will go work on the BRAT. I just got all the servos installed and it's just begging to be connected to my other SSC-32. :) |
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| 01:33.46 | landley | Anyone familiar with this toy? http://www.engadget.com/2008/01/10/kopin-lays-claim-to-worlds-smallest-color-svga-display/ |
| 01:34.40 | RobotGuy | Interesting. |
| 01:34.49 | RobotGuy | Have you seen ScreenKeys? |
| 01:35.12 | RobotGuy | www.screenkeys.com I have two samples of the RGB24T |
| 01:36.22 | cajaka | RobotGuy have you worked with the RGB24T much? |
| 01:37.02 | RobotGuy | cajaka: No, not yet. I haven't had a chance to rig something up so I can use one on my breadboard. They are not solderless breadboard friendly. |
| 01:37.46 | cajaka | With the exception of the hammer, nothing fun ever is. |
| 01:37.49 | RobotGuy | cajaka: I might try using them with my Hammer. |
| 01:38.22 | RobotGuy | cajaka: I could have jumped for joy when I found out about Hammer. |
| 01:38.58 | cajaka | Oh how is your work going with the hamer? |
| 01:39.04 | RobotGuy | I still have not been able to get Hammer to work with my custom initramfs (rootfs). |
| 01:40.46 | RobotGuy | I've built a custom kernel for the things I need on W.A.L.T.E.R. or want to work with and a custom initramfs (rootfs). I'm going to get a USB thumb drive for an added 1 GB of storage. |
| 01:41.44 | RobotGuy | Hammer is small enough to use on the smallest biped, and even put in the head of a RoboQuad. |
| 01:41.45 | cajaka | This is so you can pack both python and squeak on it at the same time? |
| 01:41.55 | RobotGuy | That is one reason. |
| 01:42.47 | RobotGuy | It's so I can have the freedom to add any other packages I might want or need also. |
| 01:42.53 | cajaka | ah |
| 01:43.26 | RobotGuy | There are many modules and packages available for both Squeak and Python. Heck, I may even want to try a display. |
| 01:45.37 | cajaka | A display like the SPI ones on sparkfun or something bigger? |
| 01:59.01 | RobotGuy | I don't know yet. If I do a display at all, I would like 320x240, but I don't know if Hammer can handle that. |
| 02:01.57 | cajaka | Yeah its hard to tell with embedded devices it does have the LCD port and I have seen 8 bot monochrome lcds that size but I don't know if they'd work well together. I haven't looked into the LCD support yet |
| 02:03.59 | SpeedEvil | From background reading |
| 02:04.09 | SpeedEvil | though I haven't looked very closely at it. |
| 02:04.22 | SpeedEvil | You can drive a PSP display in colour with no logic |
| 02:04.30 | SpeedEvil | Just onlu 2/3/2 buts |
| 02:04.33 | SpeedEvil | bits |
| 02:04.46 | SpeedEvil | 3/4/3 I mean |
| 02:04.52 | SpeedEvil | sigh |
| 02:04.58 | SpeedEvil | something that adds up to 8. |
| 02:05.16 | SpeedEvil | Or pure gray. |
| 02:05.23 | RobotGuy | I would want full color if I were going to spend money on a fancy display. |
| 02:05.32 | SpeedEvil | PSP display isn't expensive. |
| 02:05.37 | SpeedEvil | in fact it's cheap. |
| 02:05.44 | SpeedEvil | Cheaper than some of the 2" ones |
| 02:05.57 | RobotGuy | $69.95 isn't exactly cheap. |
| 02:06.07 | SpeedEvil | $40 or so on ebay |
| 02:06.14 | RobotGuy | I don't do ebay. |
| 02:06.52 | SpeedEvil | 3 bits red, green, and 2 bits blue I was meaning. |
| 02:07.12 | RobotGuy | Right. That isn't too bad actually. |
| 02:07.57 | SpeedEvil | Soldering it up of course is fun. |
| 02:08.35 | RobotGuy | I just need finer tips. |
| 02:09.13 | RobotGuy | I have 0.4mm and 0.2mm tips on order |
| 02:18.51 | RobotGuy | The Weller WES51 soldering station is what I have. |
| 02:19.28 | joe_bleau | What are you soldering that requires a 0.008" tip? Seems rather extreme. |
| 02:19.47 | RobotGuy | QFP/QFN packages. |
| 02:20.09 | joe_bleau | Ever try drag soldering, with a little bit of solder wick cleanup? |
| 02:20.14 | cajaka | Its more of keeping my and steady |
| 02:20.18 | RobotGuy | Nope. |
| 02:20.24 | cajaka | Err hand steady |
| 02:20.25 | joe_bleau | Works great for me with TQFP-144 packages. |
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| 02:21.15 | RobotGuy | I prefer to use tried and proven procedures using proper equipment that works for me. |
| 02:21.57 | RobotGuy | I'm glad what you do works for you. |
| 02:22.33 | joe_bleau | Sorry, I didn't mean to sound condescending. |
| 02:22.42 | RobotGuy | You weren't. |
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| 02:23.03 | RobotGuy | Different procedures and equipment work for different people. |
| 02:38.10 | RobotGuy | Servos should be centered now. |
| 02:39.13 | cajaka | And? |
| 02:39.45 | RobotGuy | Now I can attach the servo horns to the brackets and get my servo offsets. |
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| 02:59.24 | RobotGuy | I am building http://www.lynxmotion.com/Category.aspx?CategoryID=97 |
| 03:02.07 | RobotGuy | It will not be exactly like the pictures when I am done though. |
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| 15:53.42 | prpplague | ho ho ho, merry freakin saturday |
| 15:54.36 | RobotGuy | Good Morning. |
| 15:59.21 | prpplague | greetings |
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| 15:59.34 | prpplague | looks dave and i have worked out the last kinks on squeak |
| 15:59.48 | RobotGuy | Very cool. |
| 15:59.49 | prpplague | we should have a good package ready by monday or tuesday |
| 16:00.01 | RobotGuy | That would be wonderful. |
| 16:00.43 | RobotGuy | I am building an image I hope will work on W.A.L.T.E.R. |
| 16:00.43 | prpplague | RobotGuy: gonna run the tinybenchmarks on monday |
| 16:00.51 | RobotGuy | Neat |
| 16:01.24 | RobotGuy | These kernel panics have me mystified though. |
| 16:01.57 | RobotGuy | I almost have my BRAT ready to connect to something. |
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| 16:02.26 | RobotGuy | BRAT: http://www.lynxmotion.com/Category.aspx?CategoryID=97 |
| 16:03.45 | RobotGuy | Kernel finds the USB Net Gadget. :) |
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| 16:08.05 | RobotGuy | You still haven't got a new router? |
| 16:08.44 | prpplague | RobotGuy: no , not yet, thought i had it solved, i think its my cordless phone causing problems |
| 16:11.33 | RobotGuy | prpplague: Bad Cordless Phone! <SMACKS it> |
| 16:11.50 | roxfan | !seen T0mW |
| 16:12.05 | RobotGuy | ~seen RobotGuy |
| 16:12.07 | purl | robotguy is currently on #edev (2h 49m 45s). Has said a total of 12 messages. Is idling for 2s, last said: '~seen RobotGuy'. |
| 16:12.36 | RobotGuy | ~seen CosmicPenguin |
| 16:12.37 | purl | cosmicpenguin <n=nobody@163.181.251.103> was last seen on IRC in channel #edev, 17h 3m 52s ago, saying: 'My CS is from the University of Utah, where the Computer Science program still holds most of its former glory'. |
| 16:12.39 | roxfan | ~seen T0mW |
| 16:12.40 | purl | t0mw <n=Tom@24.238.86.158.res-cmts.sth.ptd.net> was last seen on IRC in channel #edev, 4d 37m 15s ago, saying: 'we are supposed to hit a high of 66F today'. |
| 16:17.15 | RobotGuy | I still get kernel panics with my custom kernel and initramfs (rootfs). |
| 16:17.24 | RobotGuy | What does "request_module: runaway loop modprobe binfmt-464c" mean? |
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| 17:35.51 | SpeedEvil | Anyone happen to know of datasheets of NDS screens? |
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| 18:54.21 | davidc__ | RobotGuy-Out: sounds like your init is compiled with either an unknown binfmt, or for the wrong arch |
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| 20:13.34 | Mirell | I has a diploma |
| 20:40.07 | RobotGuy | davidc__: I'm just building a rootfs to go into the initramfs. |
| 20:40.40 | davidc__ | RobotGuy: can you pastebin the full log up to the point where it dies |
| 20:42.32 | RobotGuy | davidc__: http://www.pastebin.ca/852413 |
| 20:42.48 | RobotGuy | Hi Mirell |
| 20:43.24 | davidc__ | # |
| 20:43.24 | davidc__ | EXT2-fs error (device ram0): ext2_check_page: bad entry in directory #590: rec_len is smaller than mini0 |
| 20:43.44 | davidc__ | sounds like your image is corrupt, or too big to get loaded right |
| 20:43.47 | RobotGuy | I saw that. |
| 20:44.04 | RobotGuy | I don't get how it could be corrupt. |
| 20:44.57 | RobotGuy | Do you mean loaded into RAM? |
| 20:45.49 | RobotGuy | It's 1.9 MB compressed / 7.6 MB uncompressed. |
| 20:46.01 | RobotGuy | (rootfs) |
| 20:46.26 | davidc__ | can you mount the uncompressed image using a loopback device? |
| 20:46.44 | RobotGuy | I don't know how to do that yet. |
| 20:47.01 | davidc__ | just losetup |
| 20:47.10 | davidc__ | then mount /dev/loopX /mnt/whateva |
| 20:47.16 | RobotGuy | On my PC or Hammer? |
| 20:47.21 | davidc__ | linux PC |
| 20:52.16 | RobotGuy | I got it mounted |
| 20:52.39 | RobotGuy | /dev/loop0 7.5M 5.1M 2.4M 68% /loop |
| 20:57.54 | davidc__ | then just mount /dev/loop0 /mnt/whateva |
| 20:58.03 | davidc__ | then see if you can see all the files in /mnt/whateva |
| 20:58.09 | RobotGuy | I already did that. |
| 20:58.16 | davidc__ | eh, then the image is good |
| 20:58.17 | RobotGuy | I can see everything. |
| 20:58.24 | davidc__ | must be related to sending it to the hammer |
| 20:58.29 | davidc__ | talk to prp when he;s back |
| 20:59.12 | RobotGuy | OK. At least I know the image is good. :) |
| 20:59.14 | RobotGuy | Thanks |
| 21:05.12 | RobotGuy | I hope PNY thumb drives work with Hammer. |
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| 21:44.08 | Mirell | Hmm.. |
| 21:44.26 | RobotGuy | What's up, Mirell? |
| 21:45.42 | Mirell | RobotGuy: Not much. Got my diploma in the mail and got a frame. |
| 21:45.49 | Mirell | That's my hilight of the day. |
| 21:50.18 | RobotGuy | Mirell: Cool |
| 21:50.44 | RobotGuy | I bought a USB Thumb drive today, so I hope it works with Hammer. |
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