IRC log for #edev on 20080126

00:03.41prpplagueho ho hum
00:03.47prpplaguebeen a real crappy week
00:04.00prpplaguelandley: the nail boards have been delayed
00:04.14prpplaguelandley: they had a problem with one of the vias
00:04.22prpplaguelandley: should get them on tuesday
00:06.08prpplaguelandley: a good thing about a job you don't particularly care about, you don't spend any extra time doing it
00:06.47landleyprpplague: it is 40 hours a week, no overtime expected.
00:07.00landleyThat said, a 40 hour job can be pretty draining...
00:07.17prpplaguelandley: indeed
00:07.18landleyAt least when it comes to creative work.  I'm an evening person...
00:07.30prpplaguelandley: me too
00:07.33landleyWhen it comes to 'solve the problem that's in front of me", I can pull 80 hours no sweat.
00:07.41landleyWhen it comes to "what is and isn't a good idea', not so much.
00:07.41prpplaguelandley: hehe indeed
00:24.29prpplagueho ho hum
00:26.38CosmicPe1guinso much better! - I'm happy again, and I can particpate!
00:27.00prpplaguehehe
00:27.21prpplaguelordy lordy
00:27.29prpplaguewill the madness ever end
00:27.36prpplague~/.
00:27.46prpplague~slashdot
00:30.57prpplaguepatent for smartphone
00:30.58prpplaguejeeze
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02:12.49fishheadanyone have a ready to flash webpal rom linux image
02:13.05fishheadI just bought one of those radio shack futuredial usb cell phone data cables
02:13.12fishheadit's a usb to +5/+3.3 serial :)
02:13.32fishheadnormally worth the $23 but when they rang it up it was $9.99 I might get the other one tomarrow :)
02:25.36cajakaFish head do you now the 7 digit catalog number for that cable?
02:30.41fishheadit's any of the futuredial ones
02:30.48fishheadthat look like this hang on
02:30.54fishheadit's a pl2303 chip btw
02:31.06fishheadhttp://www.nslu2-linux.org/wiki/HowTo/AddASerialPort
02:33.12cajakaOk that works
02:34.13fishhead12mbit :)
02:34.54cajakaWhat?
02:35.55fishheadread the datasheet
02:36.18ds2they discounting ALL the future dial cables?
02:36.58fishheaddunno
02:37.11fishheadmake sure it looks like one of these or one of the models listed
02:49.38fishheadso close but ubuntu livecd can't build the gdb compiler for arm :P
02:50.18fishheadI mean compile gdb for arm :P
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03:05.38fishheadWOOT! UBUNTU LIVEcd couldn't compile the stuff to load up my webpal but it appears my ubuntu hd installed desktop upstairs can, brb need to attach this device :P
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03:38.44Madsyhehe
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03:43.34RobotGuyfishhead: You can create a symlink to it.
03:44.19fishheadyeah but appears now that's not the problem
03:44.41fishhead(gdb) target rdp /dev/ttyS3
03:44.41fishheadUndefined target command: "rdp /dev/ttyS3".  Try "help target".
03:44.50fishheadappears something has changed since this doc was written
03:47.05RobotGuyAre you wodking wirh a Hammer?
03:47.33fishheadno
03:47.34fishheadwebpal
03:47.37fishheadarm7
03:47.47fishheadhttp://webpal.bigbrd.com/bootstrap.html
03:48.41fishheadwow gdb supports m68k serial bootstrap mode?!?! I could find my palm IIIXe?!?!?!
03:48.44fishheadfix
03:49.15fishheadbut anyways the webpal first :P
03:52.34RobotGuyI don't know anything about that, sorry.
03:53.14RobotGuyI can't even boot into Linux right now.
03:53.34fishheadit's ok I found another page looks like it's compiled wrong
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04:06.55roxfanhey guys
04:07.04RobotGuyHi
04:07.07roxfanwhat are the typical voltages on jtag pins?
04:07.58roxfani found what i suspect is jtag connector but not sure which pin is which
04:10.40roxfanwell, i think i found the reset :)
04:12.24RobotGuyKubuntu even
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05:02.22RobotGuyGood Evening?
05:03.00agaffneyonly 49 minutes to fix linux? you must be one hell of a coder ;)
05:03.18RobotGuyIt is not fixed yet.
05:03.25cajaka\
05:03.38RobotGuyIt's freezing up on something to do with USB.
05:03.50RobotGuyI have no idea why.
05:07.44RobotGuyI haven't run Gentoo for awhile. My server has Debian on it.
05:08.54RobotGuyI like Kubuntu, but I can't figure out why it is hanging up on bootup like it is. It makes no sense.
05:09.42RobotGuyprpplague: What's up so late?
05:13.32RobotGuyI'm downloading the Gentoo minimal install CD ISO now, as well as the latest Debian testing DVD.
05:14.39RobotGuyagaffney: How is Gentoo these days?
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07:30.46RobotGuyIs anyone here awake??
07:38.03Madsyyes
07:53.10RobotGuyDo you have a Hammer?
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11:34.51SpeedEvilgah
11:34.53SpeedEvilthat was meant to be only the link, sorry
11:34.57SpeedEvil:/
11:35.06SpeedEvilhttp://yro.slashdot.org/yro/08/01/25/2031214.shtml
11:35.26RobotGuyStop please
11:36.35SpeedEvilyes, sorry, I only meant to paste the link.
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11:49.08RobotGuyMust be careful what you select for copy. :)
11:50.52SpeedEvilI selected the whole thing to paste into something else
11:51.00SpeedEvilthen I selected only the URL
11:51.27SpeedEvilUnfortunately, sometimes - for no reason I can track down - slecting stuff sometimes doesn't put it into the paste buffer
11:51.34SpeedEvilSo it diddn't wipe the previous select
11:54.37RobotGuyYeah, I have had that happen to me too.
11:55.41RobotGuySometimes the highlight type copy does not replace existing stuff in that buffer,
12:03.56RobotGuyI am trying to add Bluetooth to my Carrier Board, but I am not having good luck with the soldering.
12:04.23SpeedEvilwhy not?
12:04.35MadsySpeedEvil: You have to *love* the US patent office :-D
12:04.49MadsyMaking people rich since the 1800s.
12:05.04SpeedEvilI have _absolutely_ no problem with it making people rich.
12:05.09RobotGuyMaybe I don't have the right sized wire.
12:05.13SpeedEvilNor I think do most people here.
12:05.24SpeedEvilMy problem is granting of obvious patents.
12:05.26RobotGuyEspecially those it has made rich.
12:05.30MadsyWell, let me redefine. It makes the wrong people rich.
12:05.41SpeedEvilAnd no simple way to kill patents that you can show prior art for.
12:07.07RobotGuyThey just need a big DELETE button.
12:08.15RobotGuyWhat size wire is good for prototyping stuff?
12:08.28SpeedEvildepends.
12:08.34SpeedEvilWhat are you trying to do?
12:08.43RobotGuySolder to the carrier board.
12:08.58SpeedEvilWhat problem are you having?
12:09.28RobotGuyI think my hookup wire is too large gauge.
12:10.35RobotGuyI probably need #22 gauge stranded.
12:12.08RobotGuyI have this http://www.sparkfun.com/commerce/product_info.php?products_id=8461 neat Bluetooth module.
12:12.43RobotGuyI want to add it to the console serial port.
12:13.35RobotGuySo, is #22 stranded wire good for this sort of stuff?
12:13.56SpeedEvilIn a way you're asking the wrong question.
12:14.07SpeedEvilIt's good for whatever you can use it for.
12:14.17RobotGuyYou are no help.
12:14.24SpeedEvilWhat's the exact problem you're having with the wire?
12:14.36RobotGuyI already said.
12:15.16SpeedEvil'good luck soldering' is not a description of the problem.
12:15.45RobotGuyNevermind then. I get tired of repeating myself.
12:16.26SpeedEvilSorry - I diddn't see any actual description of your problem.
12:16.54SpeedEvilI haven't been logged in for a day or so.
12:19.31SpeedEvilAre you having mechanical troubles - the wire is too large to go through a hole, problems fluxing it, or wetting the wire?
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15:42.28prpplagueho ho hum
15:45.29cajakaUmm, congrats you made it to the weekend?
15:49.49prpplagueyea something like that
15:52.36cajakaah
15:53.45prpplaguetoo much stress lately
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18:15.26prpplagueho ho hum
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19:27.20MirellHmm
19:27.54MirellMy weekend is off to an excellent start
19:33.10adyerme too, off to fetch some thai curry for lunch ;-)
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20:43.36MirellHmm..
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23:49.11RobotGuyMirell: Hi there.
23:49.30MirellRobotGuy: 'allo
23:49.40RobotGuyHow is everything?

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