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| 01:40.43 | RobotGuy | I have a slight problem.. Last night the power went off and my server did not reboot properly. It looks like everything is OK except for Grub. |
| 01:41.46 | agaffney | that's odd for grub to break |
| 01:43.15 | RobotGuy | agaffney: I thought so too. Everything else looks fine. |
| 01:44.01 | agaffney | have you tried just reinstalling grub? |
| 01:46.16 | RobotGuy | agaffney: I don't know how to do that, but got the instructions on #debian. |
| 02:03.17 | RobotGuy | I have my server back online, thanks to help from the #debian folks. |
| 02:15.08 | Mirell | RobotGuy: Woot |
| 02:20.12 | RobotGuy | Mirell: Hi. |
| 02:20.57 | Mirell | 'allo |
| 02:21.45 | Mirell | Backups good! |
| 02:21.59 | RobotGuy | That server hosts most of my websites. |
| 02:22.25 | RobotGuy | My primary DNS for 12 domains. |
| 02:24.13 | Mirell | Ahhh |
| 02:24.43 | RobotGuy | I just bought two more domains too. thedynaoplex.mobi and I can't remember the other one. |
| 02:24.56 | Mirell | Go Go Cheap Domain Registration |
| 02:25.05 | RobotGuy | Ahh, the other is thedynaplex.info that I got. |
| 02:25.18 | RobotGuy | I go through NamesDirect.COM (MyDomains). |
| 02:26.27 | MonMotha | you're not just tasting them? :) |
| 02:27.29 | Mirell | I need to renew mirell.org for another 10 years |
| 02:27.48 | SpeedEvil | how much is that? |
| 02:27.52 | SpeedEvil | $250? |
| 02:28.13 | Mirell | $120ish |
| 02:28.17 | MonMotha | should be more like 100-150 |
| 02:28.18 | MonMotha | yeah |
| 02:28.34 | MonMotha | of course, if you let it lapse and it gets snatched by a squatter, forget it |
| 02:28.38 | MonMotha | might as well switch domains |
| 02:28.45 | RobotGuy | I have 12 domains now. |
| 02:29.32 | RobotGuy | MonMotha: That happened to me when I got dynaplex.net a long time ago. I just barely missed renewing it and it was snatched right out from under me. |
| 02:30.00 | Mirell | MonMotha: Hence my stance |
| 02:30.15 | Mirell | MonMotha: Throw a bunch of money at it, and can forget about it for forever. |
| 02:30.33 | Mirell | Rather than renewing every year |
| 02:30.55 | RobotGuy | This is why I get all the important domains for each name I want now. No more hijacking my domains or name. |
| 02:31.10 | Mirell | Expiration Date:24-Aug-2011 05:53:57 UTC |
| 02:31.13 | Mirell | Hmm.. |
| 02:31.17 | Mirell | So three years. |
| 02:31.21 | RobotGuy | I just renew each year though. |
| 02:32.04 | Mirell | I have mirell.org, that is my domain, will be forever, as long as I am still alive. ^^ |
| 02:32.20 | SpeedEvil | Mirell: since when? |
| 02:32.30 | RobotGuy | Mirell: If you want to protect the name, you need a few more of the mirell.* domains. |
| 02:32.31 | Mirell | SpeedEvil: 2003. |
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| 02:32.47 | Mirell | RobotGuy: I had mirell.net, I didn't care enough. |
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| 02:33.03 | Mirell | RobotGuy: And mirell.com is a model. |
| 02:33.05 | SpeedEvil | Selected by the time-honoured method of seeing what was cheap on ebay |
| 02:33.12 | RobotGuy | What is the significance of this "4-letter" domain. |
| 02:33.22 | SpeedEvil | qkwv.com |
| 02:33.33 | Mirell | SpeedEvil: I came up with "Mirell" for a Star Wars club back in 1995, due to my last name being "Miller" |
| 02:33.47 | Mirell | And it's been my username for most everything since. |
| 02:33.59 | Mirell | Still proud of my "mirell" Yahoo account since 1998 |
| 02:34.06 | RobotGuy | I am commonly found as linuxguy or robotguy on forums. |
| 02:34.09 | Mirell | Since now, it's like, mirell3494 |
| 02:34.26 | MonMotha | heh, my AIM account (which is not under this name) is about that old |
| 02:34.30 | SpeedEvil | looks like mirrel.net is stilll free |
| 02:34.38 | MonMotha | 29 Sep 2007, it says |
| 02:34.49 | RobotGuy | Since one of my sites is The Dynaplex Network, I have several thedynaplex.* domains. |
| 02:35.52 | Mirell | SpeedEvil: It just expired this month. |
| 02:36.05 | RobotGuy | Mirell: You should get it then. |
| 02:36.31 | RobotGuy | The .org, .net, .com domains are important. I also take the .us domain. |
| 02:36.33 | Mirell | RobotGuy: Paycheck deposits at midnight, I might then. |
| 02:36.43 | Mirell | I totally splurged my first real paycheck. |
| 02:36.57 | Mirell | $600 in overdue bills, then "WEE OMG I HAVE MONEY" |
| 02:37.14 | RobotGuy | That's over half of what my income is. |
| 02:37.21 | Mirell | >.< |
| 02:37.25 | RobotGuy | Just over half |
| 02:37.57 | RobotGuy | I will have my money for Feb in about 6 hours. |
| 02:38.22 | Mirell | Right now I have $12. |
| 02:38.26 | Mirell | Woo. |
| 02:41.29 | RobotGuy | I have $1.73 |
| 02:46.31 | SpeedEvil | I have -$4000 |
| 02:46.34 | RobotGuy | My cat is a sabatour. |
| 02:46.59 | Mirell | SpeedEvil: Eh, I'm about $20K in debt. |
| 02:47.11 | Mirell | SpeedEvil: Admittedly, $15K of it is school loans |
| 02:47.32 | RobotGuy | I have a $14,000.00 hospital bill from a surgery. |
| 02:47.43 | Mirell | ...ouch |
| 02:47.56 | RobotGuy | That will not get paid. :( |
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| 02:48.30 | Mirell | Sorry to hear that. |
| 02:48.46 | RobotGuy | But getting back to what we should be talking about.. HAMMER. :) I can't seem to get my thumb drive mounted for some reason. |
| 02:48.58 | SpeedEvil | roxfan: does it show on lsusb? |
| 02:49.02 | SpeedEvil | robo: |
| 02:49.06 | SpeedEvil | you |
| 02:49.12 | RobotGuy | Ha ha Speed |
| 02:49.47 | RobotGuy | I don't have lsusb on the Hammer |
| 02:50.01 | RobotGuy | Is that in usbutils? |
| 02:50.39 | SpeedEvil | probably |
| 02:50.43 | SpeedEvil | alternatively |
| 02:50.53 | SpeedEvil | is it listed in cat /proc/bus/usb/devices |
| 02:51.49 | RobotGuy | I don't want to add anymore than necessary to my initrd. I want to keep it under 7 MB. |
| 02:52.32 | RobotGuy | I don't have anything in /proc/bus/usb |
| 02:53.02 | SpeedEvil | do you have your host controller loaded? |
| 02:53.50 | SpeedEvil | does plug/unplug give events on dmesg? |
| 02:55.26 | RobotGuy | I did not have ohci-hcd loaded |
| 02:55.44 | RobotGuy | What is plug/unplug? |
| 02:56.54 | SpeedEvil | you unplug it |
| 02:56.59 | SpeedEvil | ypu plug it in |
| 02:59.37 | RobotGuy | It mounts now. :D Thanks |
| 02:59.38 | Dr{Wh0} | ok i dont think i can get any more confused.. rdinit=/bin/bash should work yet i get a panic /bin/bash: verbose: No such file or directory |
| 02:59.42 | SpeedEvil | :) |
| 03:00.31 | Dr{Wh0} | i have even go so far as to have the kernel print out each file in the cpio by putting printk's in init/initramfs.c |
| 03:00.35 | RobotGuy | Now I just have to get my host setup to route packets for the Gadget Ethernet |
| 03:00.57 | RobotGuy | I can ping the host's ethernet. |
| 03:01.48 | RobotGuy | Hmmmm, I wonder if I have to use an IP address in the same net as the host's main ethernet, for the host side of the Gadget interface. |
| 03:01.59 | SpeedEvil | RobotGuy: wiki.openmoko.org |
| 03:02.04 | SpeedEvil | search for iptables |
| 03:02.21 | SpeedEvil | walkthrough |
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| 05:27.48 | landley | Hammer is a soft-float system, right? |
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| 05:28.16 | landley | Oh, that's _SAD_. |
| 05:28.35 | landley | Switching from gcc 4.1.2 to gcc 4.2.2 breaks... building gcc. |
| 05:28.37 | landley | For i686. |
| 05:28.39 | landley | With _itself_. |
| 05:36.26 | Mirell | Genius. |
| 05:39.29 | landley | And it's a known bug from 2005! |
| 05:39.46 | landley | http://arkiv.netbsd.se/?ml=gcc&a=2005-09&t=1343840 |
| 05:39.54 | landley | I just hit that in the 4.2.2 release. |
| 05:40.09 | landley | How does anyone else ever use this stuff? EVER? |
| 05:40.22 | landley | How does it not explode on the launch pad? |
| 05:56.20 | MonMotha | landley: in other words, NOTHING can compile gcc, now? ) |
| 05:56.21 | MonMotha | :) |
| 05:56.34 | MonMotha | since before, only gcc could compile gcc, and now even gcc can't :) |
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| 05:58.47 | landley | Ah, found it. |
| 05:59.18 | landley | I upgraded gcc-core but not gcc-c++. |
| 05:59.29 | landley | No warning, no nothing. |
| 06:00.05 | landley | But that makes more sense. Right... |
| 06:17.41 | Mirell | ? |
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| 07:46.27 | landley | Mirell: I tried to build gcc-core-4.2.2 with gcc-g++-4.1.2. Version skew. |
| 07:46.38 | landley | It didn't complain, it just died with an error halfway through the build... |
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| 14:32.27 | chouimat|work | morning |
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| 14:39.26 | RobotGuy | G'Moning |
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| 15:28.54 | RobotGuy | Is anyone awake yet? |
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| 17:04.11 | T0mW | prpplague: hey, give me the url to that lcd again |
| 17:05.33 | prpplague | T0mW: which lcd? |
| 17:06.29 | prpplague | T0mW: oh you mean for the 5v lcds? http://www.elinux.org/Hammer_How_to_use_LCD |
| 17:06.36 | prpplague | T0mW: there are 4 listed at the bottom of the page |
| 17:08.40 | T0mW | oh, allelectronics, not sparkfun, ok |
| 17:09.49 | prpplague | T0mW: there's one listed for sparkfun as well |
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| 17:13.41 | T0mW | prpplague: yes, but you only needed the bias supply for the Hyundai, correct? |
| 17:15.34 | prpplague | T0mW: no, all of the those displays need a bias |
| 17:15.56 | prpplague | T0mW: iirc all the ones i listed were in the -15v range |
| 17:16.44 | T0mW | prpplague: ok, so, I am looking at a variable supply with a range of -12v to -20v? Would that do? |
| 17:17.45 | prpplague | indeed |
| 17:17.52 | T0mW | ok |
| 17:17.57 | prpplague | T0mW: the mc34063 would do nicely |
| 17:18.00 | T0mW | yes |
| 17:18.17 | prpplague | we have that part in stock\ |
| 17:18.34 | T0mW | with a small load resistor to keep nominal current draw to 5ma or so |
| 17:24.50 | prpplague | yea |
| 17:25.21 | T0mW | GPSFan: I gave ubuntu 7.10 a look... |
| 17:36.39 | T0mW | GPSFan: I was disappointed, my impression is that it lacks a lot of polish. For example, the install program won't let you setup a simple raid array. |
| 17:37.29 | T0mW | GPSFan: I wanted to make a more complex raid-10 array, but couldn't see how to do a simple raid-1 |
| 17:37.55 | T0mW | prpplague: I'm sticking with Mandriva |
| 18:11.43 | Mirell | So busy. |
| 18:30.10 | T0mW | prpplague: that datasheet for that Hyundai is really a poor scan, hard to read |
| 18:31.41 | chouimat|work | T0mW: prpplague http://www.parliamenthill.gc.ca/text/hillcam_e.html |
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| 18:36.58 | GPSFan | T0mW: not having a raid aray, I've never run into that problem. I never said that ubuntu was perfect, just that I had 2 running installations that I use every day and have had minimal problems with. |
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| 18:50.54 | RobotGuy | prpplague: Are you here?? |
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| 18:56.54 | RobotGuy | I found two more version issues. |
| 18:57.49 | RobotGuy | which needs to be v2.16 (same patches) and gawk needs to be v3.1.6 (no patches needed). Both compile fine, but I have not tested the download URLs for either of these with the new versions. |
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| 19:40.15 | T0mW | prpplague: schematic up, in the mailbox |
| 19:40.45 | T0mW | prpplague: 0 to -15v |
| 19:41.11 | T0mW | prpplague: should give you a -5 to -20v range for the LCD bias |
| 20:39.43 | prpplague | T0mW: great thanks |
| 20:44.47 | prpplague | T0mW: doh |
| 20:44.58 | prpplague | T0mW: your pdf causes my pdf viewer to crash |
| 20:44.59 | prpplague | hehe |
| 20:45.48 | prpplague | T0mW: where's the rest of it? hehe |
| 20:45.59 | prpplague | T0mW: i thought you were going to do the level shifters too? |
| 20:46.07 | T0mW | ok |
| 20:46.51 | T0mW | prpplague: I thought that you said that you had something you were currently using for that? |
| 20:47.29 | prpplague | T0mW: yea, i guess i wasn't very clear |
| 20:48.14 | prpplague | T0mW: was looking for a complete schematic for hooking one of those lcd's to the hammer |
| 20:48.42 | prpplague | T0mW: i can do it, just been swampped |
| 20:49.10 | prpplague | T0mW: if you wanna send me your eagle project, i can add the reset |
| 20:49.11 | prpplague | rest |
| 20:49.25 | T0mW | prpplague: problem is that is going to be 12 bits of I/O, do you have that many to lose/use ? |
| 20:49.27 | prpplague | T0mW: this is just a "if tom has time" thing |
| 20:49.35 | prpplague | T0mW: yep |
| 20:49.44 | prpplague | T0mW: 8 data lines, and 4 control lines |
| 20:49.48 | T0mW | you might be able to do that via SPI |
| 20:50.07 | T0mW | couple of shift registers |
| 20:50.13 | prpplague | T0mW: thats ok, we want to use the ones that double as lcd lines |
| 20:50.20 | T0mW | ok |
| 20:50.29 | prpplague | T0mW: that would be nice, but we want to keep it simple at this stage |
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| 22:49.26 | landley | Morning all. |
| 22:49.36 | landley | I have screwed up kmail beyond recognition. (I break stuff.) |
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| 22:52.53 | Mirell | Stuff that no one cares about anymore, yes! |
| 23:03.17 | landley | hmmm? |
| 23:03.23 | landley | Alas, I still care about kmail. |
| 23:16.33 | landley | Yeah, I've been highly tempted. |
| 23:16.42 | landley | Especially since Kontact ate it. |
| 23:16.57 | landley | But I haven't found anything else better yet. (Not that I've looked all that hard...) |
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