| 00:00.15 | kd7enf | <stereotype=geek> that's why I only date robots </stereotype> |
| 00:00.39 | RobotGuy | I think that really depends on the woman. |
| 00:00.39 | Mirell | Hah |
| 00:00.44 | RobotGuy | Ha ha, dating robots. |
| 00:01.11 | RobotGuy | Mirell: I will hook you up with MsBRAT. :D |
| 00:02.58 | Mirell | RobotGuy: Er? |
| 00:03.15 | RobotGuy | My little 6 servo biped. |
| 00:03.46 | RobotGuy | That's MsBRAT. :) |
| 00:05.03 | RobotGuy | Mirell: http://www.lynxmotion.com/Category.aspx?CategoryID=97 |
| 00:05.46 | Mirell | RobotGuy: Uhhh...okay, vaguely kid-safe channel....yah, no. |
| 00:10.32 | Mirell | RobotGuy: Get me a RealDoll that's automated, and I'll see. |
| 00:11.48 | RobotGuy | Mirell: Heh heh, you are on your own there, my friend. ;) ;) |
| 00:17.54 | Mirell | Hah. |
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| 14:55.23 | prpplague | greetings |
| 14:56.04 | chouimat|work | prpplague: hi |
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| 17:20.19 | Mirell | Ugh. |
| 17:20.25 | Mirell | Got into work, stayed for two hours, and almost threw up. |
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| 17:49.03 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: ok, top 3 reasons why fb console doesn't work? |
| 17:49.21 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: the fb appears to be functional, but fb console locks up |
| 17:58.52 | Mirell | Mmm...need to get some Theraflu. |
| 18:09.47 | prpplague | hmm, will fb console not start without an input device assigned? |
| 18:11.05 | adyer | mirell: once got violent stomach flu at a customer's :-( |
| 18:13.03 | adyer | prpplague: i think fbconsole will run without an input device or maybe glom onto the serial port |
| 18:13.26 | prpplague | adyer: yea thats what i thought |
| 18:19.13 | adyer | prpplague: just rebuilt our kernel with fbconsole on, and have a login prompt on fb console |
| 18:19.28 | adyer | prpplague: do you know how to query it for settings? |
| 18:19.39 | prpplague | adyer: yea, this is something lower level |
| 18:19.45 | prpplague | adyer: its hanging on boot |
| 18:23.43 | prpplague | hmm, it seems to be hanging on a devfs item |
| 18:26.33 | CosmicPenguin | locks up? |
| 18:26.35 | CosmicPenguin | or just doesn't work? |
| 18:26.48 | CosmicPenguin | invoke a +5 RS232 dongle |
| 18:29.37 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: yea i have a rs-232 terminal |
| 18:30.11 | prpplague | hmm, ok last point before i hangs is a call to notifier_call_chain() |
| 18:30.24 | CosmicPenguin | so it is hanging? |
| 18:30.33 | CosmicPenguin | dlob |
| 18:30.35 | CosmicPenguin | doh even |
| 18:31.04 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: yea, when fbconsole is compiled in the kernel, the framebuffer init hangs |
| 18:31.19 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: leave the frame buffer in, but leave out the fbconsole, the fb inits with no problems |
| 18:31.34 | CosmicPenguin | what notifier chain is it trying to call? |
| 18:32.42 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: notifier_call_chain(&fb_notifier_list, FB_EVENT_FB_REGISTERED,&event); |
| 18:33.18 | CosmicPenguin | I guess you'll have to find all the listeners of that event |
| 18:33.21 | CosmicPenguin | there shouldnt' be too manyu |
| 18:33.45 | prpplague | yea |
| 18:34.02 | prpplague | i suspect its the fbconsole code |
| 18:35.40 | prpplague | yea its the fbconsole |
| 18:41.17 | adyer | prpplague: i'd guess something in the fb_info struct isn't right |
| 18:41.42 | prpplague | adyer: yea, thats what i'm thinking too |
| 18:45.14 | prpplague | adyer: looks like something in the number of consoles index is an issue |
| 18:59.26 | prpplague | yea looks to be something in vt.c |
| 19:02.20 | prpplague | hmm acquire_console_sem() is where its hanging |
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| 19:18.01 | landley | Hello world. |
| 19:19.28 | prpplague | landley: greetings |
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| 19:19.47 | landley | prpplague: hiya. |
| 19:19.56 | landley | Nail continuing to behave? |
| 19:20.00 | prpplague | indeed |
| 19:20.04 | prpplague | looking really good |
| 19:20.10 | landley | Coolness. |
| 19:20.12 | prpplague | i'm behind on testing though |
| 19:20.18 | prpplague | because of this lcd project |
| 19:20.23 | landley | No rush. |
| 19:20.40 | landley | I'm totally familiar with "buried in other projects" syndrome. :) |
| 19:20.54 | prpplague | this one is driving me nuts |
| 19:21.01 | prpplague | the fbconsole isn't playing nice |
| 19:21.07 | prpplague | the fb seems to be up and working |
| 19:23.08 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: hmm, seems to be related to my color depth |
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| 19:25.30 | RobotGuy | G'Morning |
| 19:26.15 | CosmicPenguin | too low? |
| 19:27.10 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: too high |
| 19:27.18 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: trying to run at 32bpp |
| 19:27.43 | SpeedEvil | running out of mem bandwidth? |
| 19:28.19 | prpplague | SpeedEvil: i don't think so |
| 19:28.39 | prpplague | SpeedEvil: this looks more like a case statement missing the 32bpp option |
| 19:29.51 | CosmicPenguin | ew - trying to run at 32bpp? |
| 19:30.00 | CosmicPenguin | is that the default, then? |
| 19:30.25 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: no, the way the memory is allocated for 24bpp on the s3c24xx is a 32bit memory location |
| 19:30.36 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: 888 and 8 dummy |
| 19:31.57 | CosmicPenguin | ah - that explains it |
| 19:32.21 | prpplague | i suspect that there is a case statement that is failing |
| 19:32.38 | CosmicPenguin | there is really not such thing as 32 bit, you know.. :) |
| 19:32.48 | SpeedEvil | Red, Green, Blue, Octarine |
| 19:33.21 | CosmicPenguin | what are you setting for var->bits_per-Pixel? |
| 19:33.41 | CosmicPenguin | and what did you set for the offests and length of the individual colors? |
| 19:34.54 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: yea i know there is no such thing per see |
| 19:35.05 | prpplague | bits_per_pixel is set for 32 |
| 19:35.08 | CosmicPenguin | what part of the vt code is failing? |
| 19:35.12 | prpplague | and the offsets are all correct |
| 19:35.21 | prpplague | the acquite_console_sem() |
| 19:35.25 | CosmicPenguin | missing a case statement doesn't really make sense - because lots of drivers define 32 bits |
| 19:36.15 | CosmicPenguin | the LX frambuffer, as one examle |
| 19:36.16 | adyer | CosmicPenguin: some medical stuff runs 10-bit per color, also some hardware has 888+alpha channel |
| 19:36.16 | CosmicPenguin | okay, lets not get into a pissing match here |
| 19:36.26 | CosmicPenguin | the kernel doesn't understand alpha anyway, and prpplague has fairly standard hardware |
| 19:37.06 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: yea, i'm thinking its not being set properly in the s3c2410fb driver |
| 19:37.50 | prpplague | doesn't work with 24bpp config'd either |
| 19:37.54 | prpplague | only 16 and below |
| 19:38.42 | CosmicPenguin | there isn't a case statement in acquire_console_sem |
| 19:40.45 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: sorry, i meant that someone where in the s3c2410fb driver a case statement is quitely failing, not populating a value, so when acquire_console_sem tries to do its thing, the data isn't there |
| 19:41.56 | CosmicPenguin | I don't recall having to do anything special to initalize console_sem |
| 19:43.26 | prpplague | me either |
| 19:47.55 | adyer | prpplague: maybe something like not zeroing memory for a structure? |
| 19:48.12 | prpplague | ahh, looks like there was a patch submitted for this |
| 19:57.36 | prpplague | yep, got it |
| 19:57.45 | prpplague | looks like it wasn't populating the color mode |
| 20:06.47 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: well it boots now |
| 20:06.51 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: but no text |
| 20:09.53 | adyer | do you need a 'getty' running for that? |
| 20:10.10 | prpplague | adyer: should have to |
| 20:10.19 | prpplague | adyer: should be able to just cat data to the vt |
| 20:10.29 | RobotGuy | When I copy stuff to my thumb drive from my PC and then plug it into Hammer, it says there are errors on /dev/sda1 (thumb drive) and I should run fsck. All is fine on the PC, but not on Hammer. |
| 20:10.59 | prpplague | RobotGuy: i suspect that you pc is just not reporting the error |
| 20:11.09 | prpplague | RobotGuy: i assume you'd done a fisk |
| 20:11.55 | RobotGuy | prpplague: Well, if it isn't reporting the error, that is not good. I fsck before I unmounted from Hammer. |
| 20:12.22 | prpplague | uh, you aren't suppose to fsck while mounted |
| 20:13.42 | RobotGuy | prpplague: I meant fsck before I mount on the PC. |
| 20:14.14 | RobotGuy | and before I mount on Hammer |
| 20:14.28 | prpplague | RobotGuy: well, i'd suspect you are missing something |
| 20:14.31 | RobotGuy | This time there was no error reported by either. |
| 20:14.44 | RobotGuy | adyer: I know the other meaning. :P |
| 20:15.33 | RobotGuy | Do I need tmpfs mounted in fstab? |
| 20:15.53 | chouimat|work | adyer: please ... some people are trying to work here |
| 20:16.36 | chouimat|work | :) |
| 20:16.40 | RobotGuy | This is work? I must be in the wrong place then.. ;) |
| 20:18.54 | prpplague | RobotGuy: generally this i a "professional" hang out |
| 20:19.14 | prpplague | RobotGuy: most of the people who frequent #edev do development professionaly |
| 20:22.29 | RobotGuy | prpplague: I was just kidding. ;) Most everyone here is better at this than I am. |
| 20:22.44 | prpplague | gotta start somewhere |
| 20:23.13 | chouimat|work | _start() should to |
| 20:23.15 | chouimat|work | err do |
| 20:23.16 | chouimat|work | :) |
| 20:23.21 | RobotGuy | prpplague: True. I am learning a lot, but slower than I would like to. |
| 20:23.54 | RobotGuy | I still have a dang length error, but it does not seem to be causing a problem. |
| 20:31.35 | RobotGuy | Well, it might be causing me a problem in getting /dev/mtdblock1 mounted. |
| 20:33.56 | prpplague | wheeeee, text on the screen |
| 20:34.15 | CosmicPenguin | clea |
| 20:36.18 | RobotGuy | prpplague: I got the latest buildroot from svn, built a toolchain with it, and also built a native toolchain for Hammer. |
| 20:36.29 | prpplague | nice |
| 20:37.13 | RobotGuy | prpplague: You might want to consider upgrading the Hammer Buildroot at some point. If =I= can get this to work, they anyone should be able to. ;) |
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| 20:38.54 | prpplague | RobotGuy: not sure that i'll update the official buildroot for awhile |
| 20:39.25 | RobotGuy | prpplague: I also edited some of the *.mk files to get stuff into /usr(bin,sbin} instead of /{bin,sbin} |
| 20:40.08 | RobotGuy | s/{// |
| 20:40.34 | RobotGuy | s/(/{/ |
| 20:57.49 | RobotGuy | prpplague: If I connect something like an LCD direct to Hammer, do I need the X stuff to display on it? |
| 20:58.04 | RobotGuy | I am thinking of a color display. |
| 21:00.49 | SpeedEvil | RobotGuy: he's working on that ATM |
| 21:00.56 | SpeedEvil | AIUI |
| 21:01.38 | RobotGuy | SpeedEvil: I know, but I just wanted to know if I need the X stuff for a nice color display. I tried to build it, but none of it will build. |
| 21:07.24 | adyer | RobotGuy: depends on what you want. If you just want raw accress to a display bitmap you can get that with a frame buffer device. On top of framebuffer device you can put X, directFB, or other fancier layers |
| 21:08.55 | RobotGuy | adyer: OK. I do want to be able to display graphics at some point, but would like to avoid X if possible. |
| 21:08.57 | landley | prpplague: did you ever get a chance to break up those kernel patches? |
| 21:09.06 | RobotGuy | landley: Hello! |
| 21:13.48 | T0mW | prpplague: schematic is in email |
| 21:13.50 | SpeedEvil | RobotGuy: fb'll prolly work fine then |
| 21:14.04 | SpeedEvil | RobotGuy: however, X will also work fine |
| 21:14.28 | SpeedEvil | Annoyingly my phone is down, so I can't tell you how much it uses. |
| 21:14.33 | SpeedEvil | IIRC about 10M |
| 21:14.40 | SpeedEvil | (RAM) |
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| 21:31.22 | RobotGuy | prpplague: I still have a question on how to get the RayLink driver selected, if it is available in the kernel. I can not find where to select it. |
| 21:32.08 | RobotGuy | SpeedEvil: OK on the fb/X |
| 21:32.23 | prpplague | landley: hell no, this big project has been taking 100% of my time |
| 21:33.52 | RobotGuy | I also need the quickcam_messenger driver. |
| 21:35.23 | prpplague | RobotGuy: you know...., you can google for linux drivers |
| 21:35.32 | prpplague | RobotGuy: http://www.google.com/linux |
| 21:36.11 | prpplague | RobotGuy: when i have time i will post a wiki page on the raylink driver |
| 21:36.29 | hapchap | prpplague: how goes the fb fight? |
| 21:36.41 | prpplague | hapchap: console is up and running |
| 21:36.47 | prpplague | hapchap: some color issues |
| 21:36.50 | prpplague | hapchap: but its up |
| 21:36.51 | hapchap | prpplague: can i come see? |
| 21:37.10 | prpplague | hapchap: give me 5 minutes first, i need to run a test |
| 21:37.24 | hapchap | prpplague: alrighty |
| 21:37.32 | RobotGuy | prpplague: OK. I'm anxious to get W.A.L.T.E.R. onto my network. |
| 21:37.55 | hapchap | RobotGuy: what RaLink device are you using? |
| 21:38.03 | RobotGuy | prpplague: I am going to write some remote communication/control software for W.A.L.T.E.R. :D |
| 21:38.34 | prpplague | hapchap: he's using one of those usb sticks, not sure which one |
| 21:38.41 | RobotGuy | prpplague: EW7818UG |
| 21:38.50 | RobotGuy | s/81/18/ |
| 21:38.53 | hapchap | prpplague: is that an RT73? |
| 21:39.01 | RobotGuy | s/88/8/ |
| 21:39.02 | T0mW | prpplague: what does that URL do? Limit results only to Linux? |
| 21:39.06 | hapchap | prpplague: same one we have in stock? |
| 21:39.11 | prpplague | T0mW: yea |
| 21:39.14 | T0mW | cool |
| 21:39.27 | prpplague | hapchap: not sure, haven't had time to look into it |
| 21:39.33 | prpplague | hapchap: but i'm guessing it is |
| 21:39.42 | hapchap | RobotGuy: what is your problem with the driver? |
| 21:39.42 | RobotGuy | prpplague: EW8318UG is what I have. |
| 21:40.01 | RobotGuy | hapchap: I can't find the driver in the kernel for Hammer |
| 21:40.16 | hapchap | RobotGuy: it probably isnt in the kernel |
| 21:40.32 | RobotGuy | hapchap: It's in my PC Linux kernel. |
| 21:41.06 | hapchap | RobotGuy: are you sure that it is not a module? |
| 21:41.32 | RobotGuy | hapchap: On my PC it is a module. There are several modules for RayLink stuff. |
| 21:42.16 | hapchap | RobotGuy: i doubt it is in the main kernel tree |
| 21:42.19 | adyer | two days ago, January 24th, Linux Kernel 2.6.24 was released. This is the first mainline kernel that includes (sadly a somewhat buggy) rt2x00 release. |
| 21:42.34 | adyer | from the rt2x00 project page |
| 21:42.46 | RobotGuy | prpplague: I can't seem to type the model number of my USB WiFi device right - it's really EW7318UG. |
| 21:43.14 | prpplague | hapchap: then its the same as the ones we have |
| 21:43.15 | RobotGuy | adyer: Hmmmm, I wonder what the bugs are. |
| 21:43.51 | hapchap | adyer: I am using ralinks driver with very good results |
| 21:44.04 | RobotGuy | There are rt2* drivers in 2.6.23 also. |
| 21:44.12 | hapchap | RobotGuy: http://www.ralinktech.com/ralink/Home/Support/Linux.html |
| 21:44.18 | prpplague | hapchap: you can come have a look now |
| 21:44.23 | RobotGuy | hapchap: You are on an x86 platform though. |
| 21:44.33 | hapchap | RobotGuy: you need to download the RT73 set |
| 21:44.43 | prpplague | RobotGuy: usb is usb |
| 21:46.59 | landley | prpplague: I can dig up the old one and break it up myself, I suppose... :) |
| 21:47.29 | RobotGuy | prpplague: You really don't need to tell me that usb is usb. I think I am smart enough to have already figured that out.. |
| 21:52.44 | RobotGuy | I downloaded the RT73 set and am looking at how to install it. |
| 21:55.59 | RobotGuy | This is going to be interesting.. I have to build the rt73 module from sources, so probably should create a buildroot package for it. |
| 21:58.34 | adyer | oh man, ralink and raylink both make wifi cards, how confusing is that? |
| 21:58.51 | RobotGuy | ACK |
| 21:59.47 | RobotGuy | I have the right site though because it was linked from the manufacturer of my WiFi adapter. |
| 22:13.35 | ds2 | the rt73 should drop in quite cleanly |
| 22:13.54 | ds2 | but there are a few bugs in the rt73 driver |
| 22:20.52 | flyback- | ya know I got to tell you guys |
| 22:21.00 | flyback- | and I know it's all 2nd nature to you folks but |
| 22:21.28 | flyback- | if we continue to have good companies like ftdi, etc making bridge chips that keep legacy gear going |
| 22:21.44 | flyback- | I feel like more confident where the industry is going |
| 22:24.07 | flyback- | yeah between vm tech and bridge gear, I got back some faith in the industry |
| 22:24.34 | flyback- | now I can focus on the fun embedded stuff :p |
| 22:24.34 | RobotGuy | keyboard needs recharging. Bye for now. |
| 22:24.39 | flyback- | RobotGuy: :/ |
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| 22:40.26 | flyback- | speaking of |
| 22:40.40 | flyback- | I guess the webpal keyboard ir protocol isn't too bad to decode to run on a mcu |
| 22:40.46 | flyback- | so I guess the death of my webpal wasn't a total loss |
| 22:44.26 | flyback- | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W6mhyTmnelw# <--- damn canadians |
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| 22:51.16 | flyback- | you guys hear that microsoft vista cd's broke the blender on "will it blend?" |
| 22:56.22 | flyback- | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h79fIGD5Vyo&feature=related# <---- hahahahaha YOU GO TO HELL AND YOU DIE! |
| 23:01.38 | prpplague | flyback: last warning |
| 23:04.03 | flyback- | what |
| 23:04.15 | flyback- | the last one was just a jab at the writer's strike |
| 23:05.45 | flyback- | i MISSed where the first warning was |
| 23:11.53 | Mirell | Mmm. |
| 23:13.46 | prpplague | flyback: that was my point, one and only warning |
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| 23:14.39 | flyback- | ah |
| 23:14.46 | flyback- | what was the thing youd idn't like? |
| 23:16.10 | prpplague | flyback: 1) off topic url 2) caps |
| 23:16.25 | flyback- | duely noted sir |
| 23:23.56 | *** join/#edev ico2__ (n=ico2@modem-1348.chimpanzee.dialup.pol.co.uk) |
| 23:31.26 | ohsix | i remember the last 6 only warnings :] |
| 23:35.46 | Mirell | This is the last final warning! |