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| 02:08.59 | flyback | would like to know if any chip can be subsitued for a cmos 74244 for +5 to +3.3 buffering for a jtag, will ACT or HCT ones work? |
| 02:16.48 | Dr{Who} | something easy to get? ie RS ? |
| 02:17.09 | flyback | no in my piles of s*** |
| 02:17.14 | flyback | rs doesn't carry this stuff anymore |
| 02:17.44 | Dr{Who} | a resistor and a diod will work if you have lots of chips 74VHC04 would work |
| 02:17.48 | Dr{Who} | standard hex inverter |
| 02:18.02 | flyback | oh!??! |
| 02:18.07 | flyback | does it have to be VHC |
| 02:18.17 | Dr{Who} | you can also easily just build a bias circuit. |
| 02:18.46 | flyback | all I want is a buffer for the damn wiggler jtag :P |
| 02:19.18 | Dr{Who} | 5v --/\/-- 2k --o 3.3v --/\/ 3k -- gnd |
| 02:20.13 | Dr{Who} | although it may not be fast enough depends on the circuit needs |
| 02:25.27 | Dr{Who} | this is from my own notes it is faster than the bias circuit if you need it faster. also lots of gates and hex circuits are 5v tolerant that run on 3.3 so you can get away with various gates and inverters etc if you provide a 3.3v they need |
| 02:25.29 | Dr{Who} | http://pastebin.com/d4779b74e |
| 02:26.11 | flyback | actually found a circuit that uses a hc125 |
| 02:26.15 | flyback | I might have one of those |
| 02:28.40 | Dr{Who} | ok. the voltage devide method is probably the most common way of doing this stuff |
| 02:29.30 | flyback | woot! looks like a 74F244 buffer cbip works with +5 and +3.3 just fine |
| 02:29.47 | Dr{Who} | yep.. a lot of them do. |
| 02:32.16 | Dr{Who} | this circuit has a typical example i found for you |
| 02:32.18 | Dr{Who} | http://usb-radio.sourceforge.net/images/usb-radio.png |
| 02:32.53 | flyback | I rather use chip |
| 02:32.54 | Dr{Who} | you can see how they bias the tx from one chip to the other. |
| 02:32.56 | flyback | for safety of the parts |
| 02:33.49 | Dr{Who} | well safety would only be an issue of you are expecting somethign outside of 5v |
| 02:33.54 | Dr{Who} | are you? |
| 02:34.36 | flyback | yes |
| 02:34.40 | flyback | +3.3 devices |
| 02:35.16 | Dr{Who} | i ment over 5v |
| 02:35.32 | flyback | na |
| 02:35.59 | Dr{Who} | as long as the circuit you are comeing from is 5v ttl and you need 3.3 then bias voltage devider is the normal way to do this. unless you want to add a chip : c ) |
| 02:36.12 | Dr{Who} | or speed ie mhz is an issue. |
| 02:41.38 | flyback | what about the F chip |
| 02:46.06 | Dr{Who} | 74F244 is perfect |
| 02:46.09 | Dr{Who} | its fast too |
| 02:46.39 | Dr{Who} | it has !enable so you should just give it 3.3v and then feed one of its inputs like i0 |
| 02:48.28 | flyback | huh |
| 02:48.40 | flyback | you mean for it's vcc feed it +3.3 |
| 02:48.46 | Dr{Who} | yes |
| 02:48.52 | flyback | what about if the inputs are +5 |
| 02:48.55 | flyback | is that still ok? |
| 02:48.57 | Dr{Who} | yes |
| 02:49.02 | flyback | cool :) |
| 02:49.05 | Dr{Who} | upto 7v |
| 02:49.43 | Dr{Who} | you can also use this to drive 5v |
| 02:49.52 | Dr{Who} | put 5v on vcc and in 3.3 |
| 02:50.37 | Dr{Who} | its just a npn transistor inside |
| 02:50.58 | Dr{Who} | i forgot to mention you could also use an npn.. |
| 02:51.17 | flyback | well it's going to drive either +5 or +3.3 |
| 02:51.21 | flyback | depends on the target |
| 02:51.21 | Dr{Who} | the only diff with the devider is that it does not require a 3.3v source |
| 02:51.31 | flyback | so when I am talking to +5 devices I need to vcc +5 ? |
| 02:51.34 | RobotGuy | Hey, I just fixed a problem with the buildroot from svn! |
| 02:51.38 | Dr{Who} | where npn or this requires a 3.3v source |
| 02:51.43 | flyback | and +3.3 I need to vcc +3.3 |
| 02:51.45 | flyback | is this correct> |
| 02:51.57 | Dr{Who} | yes you need a vcc and a vdd |
| 02:52.19 | flyback | oh there are 2? |
| 02:52.42 | Dr{Who} | the last letter denotes its ID not so much what it is |
| 02:52.45 | Dr{Who} | vc? |
| 02:53.25 | Dr{Who} | so im presuming you have some circuit that runs on ttl 5v vcc and another that runs on 3.3v vcd |
| 02:53.47 | Dr{Who} | for example a usb chip and a 3.3v device |
| 02:54.26 | flyback | parallel port is the source always |
| 02:54.34 | Dr{Who} | ok so 5v |
| 02:54.34 | flyback | so +5 most of the time |
| 02:54.43 | flyback | taget could be +5 or +3.3 |
| 02:55.10 | Dr{Who} | does the target have its own voltage supply? |
| 02:55.20 | flyback | it could |
| 02:55.21 | Dr{Who} | or are you trying to drive it from the parallel port? |
| 02:55.27 | flyback | some will be battery |
| 02:55.32 | flyback | I don't mind making a seperate psu for it |
| 02:55.43 | flyback | whatever has least amount of stress |
| 02:55.44 | Dr{Who} | ok use caution parallel ports are very sensitive.. very little current drain possible before POOF! |
| 02:55.45 | flyback | for the devices |
| 02:55.55 | flyback | using a junk board :P |
| 02:56.00 | flyback | or a seperate card |
| 02:56.13 | Dr{Who} | well that driver chip is perfect for buffering |
| 02:56.28 | flyback | I just don't want the chip spiking a 3.3 volt device |
| 02:56.41 | Dr{Who} | common ground between the devices the 5v D1 line from lpt2 can drive that chip's input and you give that chip its own power supply.. |
| 02:56.47 | Dr{Who} | now your isolated. |
| 02:57.14 | Dr{Who} | that chip wont drain any current from your port so you are safe. |
| 02:57.20 | flyback | yeah just tape +5 thru a ldo or something |
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| 02:57.36 | flyback | although if I use a old laptop will have to think of something |
| 02:57.53 | flyback | here is the circuit hang on |
| 02:58.04 | Dr{Who} | ya. leaching power from lpt is do able just be cautions how much current you draw. |
| 02:58.27 | Dr{Who} | serial has plenty of power so does usb |
| 02:58.30 | flyback | na I rather not take chances |
| 02:58.35 | flyback | hmm |
| 02:58.39 | flyback | usb could be a good point |
| 02:58.53 | Dr{Who} | ya thats 5v and can sink upto 300ma? i think |
| 02:59.04 | flyback | 100ma in start mode low mode |
| 02:59.16 | Dr{Who} | np |
| 02:59.18 | flyback | 500ma in that mode but suppposted to act the controller first |
| 02:59.28 | flyback | a lot of cheap usb toy's don't :/ |
| 02:59.34 | Dr{Who} | ok then you may need to make sure you have a "powered" hub |
| 02:59.41 | Dr{Who} | on the laptop built in or outside |
| 02:59.47 | Dr{Who} | some hub's are not powered |
| 02:59.53 | Dr{Who} | onboard or outside that is. |
| 02:59.57 | flyback | yeah I beat you to that |
| 03:00.02 | flyback | about 20 seconds ago |
| 03:00.06 | Dr{Who} | : c ) |
| 03:00.11 | flyback | I can wire up a +5 to one of my existing cheap hubs np |
| 03:00.23 | Dr{Who} | safer.. : c ) |
| 03:00.42 | flyback | so I am building this one |
| 03:00.43 | flyback | http://wiki.openwrt.org/OpenWrtDocs/Customizing/Hardware/JTAG_Cable |
| 03:00.54 | flyback | the F is a 100% drop in? don't need to change anything? |
| 03:01.02 | flyback | does enough current, speed whatever? |
| 03:03.49 | Dr{Who} | ya its the same type of driver |
| 03:04.03 | Dr{Who} | only difference is the enable lines |
| 03:04.27 | Dr{Who} | hmm thats the same too so ya its the same |
| 03:04.48 | flyback | oh? |
| 03:04.51 | Dr{Who} | they ground pin1 looks like and pin19 so as i said enable ! pins |
| 03:05.09 | flyback | I ground the unused pins right? |
| 03:06.39 | Dr{Who} | exactly as they show in the diagram |
| 03:06.52 | Dr{Who} | ping 1 & 19 are the enable lines |
| 03:07.57 | flyback | so it's a 1:1 part? |
| 03:08.36 | Dr{Who} | ya |
| 03:08.45 | flyback | thx bro :) |
| 03:08.49 | Dr{Who} | np. |
| 03:08.59 | flyback | same voltage rules as the cmos part right? |
| 03:09.29 | flyback | hmm |
| 03:10.24 | Dr{Who} | dont need it on that circuit. |
| 03:10.50 | Dr{Who} | you get 3.3 from the jtag port and the par port drives you 5v signals |
| 03:11.33 | flyback | yeah but what happens if I am talking to a 5 volt part |
| 03:12.10 | Dr{Who} | the jtag pin 14 will be at what ever voltage the part is at presumably. |
| 03:12.40 | flyback | but in effect it needs to be fed +5 for 5 volt parts |
| 03:13.04 | flyback | I have some devices don't have power out |
| 03:13.25 | Dr{Who} | ok so they dont have a standard jtag port already |
| 03:13.34 | flyback | no not necesarily |
| 03:14.00 | Dr{Who} | ok. well the board where your TCK/TDO/TDI where you do interface to the chip that chip has a vcc |
| 03:14.06 | Dr{Who} | you just need to tap onto it. |
| 03:14.23 | flyback | think I rather not take chance and just use another psu :P |
| 03:14.37 | Dr{Who} | what ever the chip is driven by you can use to drive the 74hc244 or compatible chip |
| 03:14.44 | flyback | how much power does that chip need max |
| 03:14.58 | Dr{Who} | oh that chip uses mv like 10mv maybe |
| 03:15.07 | flyback | even the F? |
| 03:15.12 | Dr{Who} | also if you use seperate ps use caution to sync your grounds. |
| 03:15.20 | flyback | yeah I was going to ask about that |
| 03:15.27 | flyback | what's the best bet there |
| 03:15.42 | flyback | if it's less than 100ma I am thinking just a ldp off a usb port |
| 03:15.46 | flyback | ldo |
| 03:16.05 | Dr{Who} | ya thats fine |
| 03:16.13 | flyback | I have some 5a +3.3 :P |
| 03:16.16 | flyback | from old mb's |
| 03:16.41 | flyback | waste of power though only use those for sensitive digital or analog circuits :) |
| 03:16.45 | Dr{Who} | these are very low amp circuits most of the time and leaching from them to drive your one chip is not a problem. |
| 03:17.29 | Dr{Who} | if however you need to drive them with power then ya usb is a good choice below 300?ma i think is the max but i forget. |
| 03:17.31 | flyback | only thing I don't like about LDO's beside power wasting is if the ground gets disconnected |
| 03:17.34 | flyback | it will spike out |
| 03:17.46 | flyback | 100ma is the max for low mode unasked |
| 03:17.52 | flyback | according to the spec |
| 03:18.26 | Dr{Who} | i have drive a lot from usb they can take it and if you overdrive you are still not likely to do damage they have built in protection. |
| 03:19.05 | Dr{Who} | where the lpt port does not. so you can see from that jtag you are building they are not getting power from the lpt port. but from the jtag port. |
| 03:19.10 | Dr{Who} | do drive the chip. |
| 03:19.31 | flyback | that one wire |
| 03:19.37 | flyback | that goes from the device to the parallel port |
| 03:20.06 | flyback | uses the other direction thing in the 244 |
| 03:20.13 | flyback | is that also still the same on a F part |
| 03:20.23 | Dr{Who} | what pin # |
| 03:21.06 | flyback | 11 |
| 03:21.10 | Dr{Who} | btw please tell me how that disney toy hack goes i would love to know. drwho at f34r dot com |
| 03:21.31 | flyback | sure :P |
| 03:21.40 | flyback | I think I found a jtag header |
| 03:21.49 | flyback | guess it's kinda worthless till we know the cpu and have the files |
| 03:22.06 | Dr{Who} | ok well pin 11 on the 244 chip is taking a voltage from the jtag and driving it out to the lpt port |
| 03:22.47 | Dr{Who} | the 100ohm resistor does all the protection needed on the output its a current limiter to keep anything from over driving. that goes into pin 11 of the lpt port. |
| 03:23.04 | flyback | so it's all still good? |
| 03:23.13 | Dr{Who} | ya lpt port can take 3-5 np |
| 03:23.14 | flyback | I blew $8 at radio shack getting the resistors :P |
| 03:23.27 | Dr{Who} | heh.. good to have around |
| 03:23.28 | flyback | well yeah I know a low voltage won't burn anything |
| 03:23.32 | flyback | I mean it will function |
| 03:23.33 | flyback | ? |
| 03:24.04 | Dr{Who} | the circuit with the 244 chip? |
| 03:24.30 | Dr{Who} | ya its a good design. i think my jtag i have uses that same design. |
| 03:25.21 | flyback | ok I just need to get out my heatfun |
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| 03:25.28 | flyback | and start extracting F chips |
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| 03:25.47 | Dr{Who} | keep em cool. dont overheat they will die easy. |
| 03:25.55 | flyback | oh? |
| 03:26.03 | flyback | it's like 1000F gun |
| 03:26.10 | flyback | but I usually do the bottom side for dip |
| 03:26.20 | Dr{Who} | hmm never done it that way. |
| 03:26.36 | flyback | I had a rought time getting all the solid polymer caps from some old boards |
| 03:26.39 | flyback | dunno if they survived |
| 03:26.40 | Dr{Who} | i usually use solder sucker. |
| 03:30.48 | Dr{Who} | ya thinking about it thats prob a good way to go if you dont mind damaging the board itself and just want the parts. |
| 03:30.58 | Dr{Who} | have to try that sometime.. |
| 03:33.11 | Dr{Who} | i use ponyprog to program not sure what you use but the site has a simmilar programmer its the one i use with less parts. |
| 03:33.20 | Dr{Who} | http://www.lancos.com/prog.html |
| 03:33.43 | Dr{Who} | they didnt put any resistors in |
| 03:34.12 | Dr{Who} | http://www.lancos.com/e2p/avrisp-siprog.gif |
| 03:34.26 | Dr{Who} | they drive the power to the chip from VDD pin 1 |
| 03:34.52 | Dr{Who} | through a diod to protect from backward voltages |
| 03:36.19 | flyback- | my big concern is just fried device |
| 03:37.17 | Dr{Who} | both of these programmers are safe for that. it keeps the voltages seperate from the pc and the device. |
| 03:38.26 | Dr{Who} | the 244 is basicly a bunch of switches or npn's that are driven by one voltage but drive another so it seperates the devices. |
| 03:38.48 | Dr{Who} | its not like an opto isolator or anything but the only thing that will ever get hurt is the 244 chip. |
| 03:40.13 | flyback- | good |
| 03:40.35 | flyback- | 244's are cheap compared to jtag device ends :P |
| 03:40.43 | Dr{Who} | hehe ya |
| 03:48.07 | Dr{Who} | i have read someplace to never pull or put in the lpt jtag programmers while powered up on the computer or the device... fair warning. |
| 03:48.42 | Dr{Who} | some possibilities are a spurious signal to the jtag port to send a bad flag change command to effectivly brick the board |
| 03:48.54 | flyback- | what about connecting the jtag device to the programmer |
| 03:48.56 | flyback- | that ok? |
| 03:48.58 | Dr{Who} | others are to cause possible damage to the pc lpt port ( i doubt this one) |
| 03:49.24 | Dr{Who} | that is ok |
| 03:49.54 | Dr{Who} | just for example booting a pc with the jtag all hooked up could throw stuff down the lpt port who knows what |
| 03:50.30 | flyback- | no I mean jtag always hooked to pc |
| 03:50.34 | flyback- | but connect/disconnect device |
| 03:50.39 | Dr{Who} | yes |
| 03:50.51 | Dr{Who} | and never reboot the pc with the jtag connected to your device. |
| 03:51.31 | Dr{Who} | seems very unlikley it would ever do anything but i can see how it is possible.. just not probable. |
| 03:54.06 | Dr{Who} | but for this reason i unplug my jtag from my board when im not doing anything just in case my dev system reboots for some unplanned reason. |
| 04:01.09 | Dr{Who} | bad cap's |
| 04:01.26 | flyback- | nope |
| 04:01.27 | flyback- | no caps |
| 04:01.47 | flyback- | unless bad caps on the board and none are showing signs |
| 04:03.18 | Dr{Who} | its just a guess but a cap near the audio chip or part of it could cause buzz etc.. |
| 04:04.56 | Dr{Who} | a scope would show it |
| 04:05.27 | flyback- | there is a tv tuner card |
| 04:05.28 | flyback- | beside it |
| 04:05.43 | flyback- | reminds me |
| 04:05.45 | Dr{Who} | lots of noise from those guys' |
| 04:05.46 | flyback- | I need to wash my tbsc |
| 04:05.48 | flyback- | and see if it's ok |
| 04:06.02 | flyback- | I suspect the rust marks are from splashed water when the basement had 6 inches of water |
| 04:06.13 | flyback- | I took it out to be safe it was working fine |
| 04:06.20 | Dr{Who} | weeee |
| 04:06.22 | flyback- | I miss that card |
| 04:06.23 | flyback- | really nice |
| 04:06.27 | flyback- | full hw acceleration |
| 04:06.31 | flyback- | gave creative labs hell |
| 04:06.32 | Dr{Who} | nice |
| 04:06.36 | flyback- | but then cirrus existed the market |
| 04:06.38 | flyback- | faggots |
| 04:06.44 | flyback- | and turtle beach had to eol the card |
| 04:06.51 | Dr{Who} | ya. |
| 04:07.08 | flyback- | audioPCI es1370's were super popular in linux for yrs |
| 04:07.21 | flyback- | cause it has 2 dacs you can play thru one and rercord from the other if you want etc |
| 04:07.22 | flyback- | :P |
| 04:07.49 | flyback- | and the older es1370 pre creative labs ones have a higher quality codec |
| 04:07.51 | flyback- | I have several |
| 04:08.14 | flyback- | heh I remeber when I got my first soundcard in 93 as a grad gift |
| 04:08.16 | flyback- | sb pro II |
| 04:08.23 | flyback- | 8 bit stereo 22khz |
| 04:08.24 | flyback- | $150 |
| 04:08.37 | flyback- | and I remeber making a resistor parallel port dac for my laptop |
| 04:08.42 | flyback- | so I could listen to mods |
| 04:08.53 | Dr{Who} | ya im trying to get rid of stuff now. I went through i have boxes and boxes of isa cards even a few eisa |
| 04:08.59 | flyback- | yeah me also |
| 04:09.06 | flyback- | why do you think I wanted to use a F series chip ;) |
| 04:09.10 | flyback- | need anything? |
| 04:09.22 | flyback- | http://flyback.databurn.net |
| 04:09.43 | Dr{Who} | hehe cool ill im constantly in need of parts for projects. |
| 04:09.50 | Dr{Who} | bookmarked. |
| 04:12.57 | Dr{Who} | ahhhh so many projects so little time.. : c ) |
| 04:14.02 | Dr{Who} | i dont have a bucket list i have a crater list of stuff to do.. |
| 04:14.43 | flyback- | hey |
| 04:14.50 | flyback- | you live near any radio shacks? |
| 04:14.52 | flyback- | us right? |
| 04:15.02 | Dr{Who} | ya |
| 04:15.11 | flyback- | they used to sell this $23 cable |
| 04:15.12 | Dr{Who} | i have rs norvac and fry's |
| 04:15.13 | flyback- | I might have told you |
| 04:15.20 | flyback- | futuredial cell phone cable |
| 04:15.27 | flyback- | the ones with the buldge in the middle |
| 04:15.32 | flyback- | if you cut off the cell phone end |
| 04:15.36 | flyback- | it's a pl2303 inside |
| 04:15.45 | flyback- | which will convert a +5 or +3.3 logic level serial i/o to usb |
| 04:16.04 | flyback- | I got my first 2 at the store 5 mins from here for $10 each on clearance |
| 04:16.11 | flyback- | the last 4 I got at a store 20 mins away $5 each |
| 04:16.17 | flyback- | workin windows, linux and mac os |
| 04:16.23 | Dr{Who} | neet. |
| 04:16.30 | flyback- | can map to a com port so you can use 20 yr old comm port apps |
| 04:16.34 | flyback- | and they never know :P |
| 04:16.56 | Dr{Who} | thats cool and a good inexpensive usb2serial |
| 04:17.16 | flyback- | this is what inspired me to build a jtag |
| 04:17.16 | flyback- | getting these let me see some stuff |
| 04:17.39 | Dr{Who} | ya looking for consumer stuff reuse is a neet idea.. i think you have something. |
| 04:18.07 | flyback- | tell you another trick |
| 04:18.12 | flyback- | get cermanic flower pot dishes |
| 04:18.15 | flyback- | like $5 for 12 inch |
| 04:18.28 | Dr{Who} | i noticed a few in your pics |
| 04:18.31 | flyback- | or go get natural stone or cermanic UNLGLAZED floor tiles |
| 04:18.41 | flyback- | = almost 0 static and can take high temps |
| 04:18.46 | flyback- | great for solder work and battery chargers |
| 04:18.49 | flyback- | cheap home fire shield |
| 04:18.55 | flyback- | I put them under ups's also |
| 04:18.57 | flyback- | just in case |
| 04:19.16 | flyback- | I got some of those 16 x 16 ones for like < $5 home depo |
| 04:19.21 | flyback- | they probably think I am a terrorist |
| 04:19.23 | Dr{Who} | ahh ya.. good idea. my lab at my office i have anti static tables. and when i got them i ended up with a bunch of spare top's |
| 04:19.29 | flyback- | wondering why I buy them in 1's |
| 04:19.31 | Dr{Who} | but thats a good one ill have to get a few for home. |
| 04:20.01 | flyback- | now if you have a sustained heat source it will eventually heat up enough to ignite shit under it etc |
| 04:20.05 | flyback- | but for the most of the time it won' |
| 04:20.20 | flyback- | being cermanic is a poor conductor and even when it does it can take a lot of heat |
| 04:20.27 | flyback- | better than battery chargers on the carpeyt |
| 04:20.32 | flyback- | almost burned down the house in my teens |
| 04:20.35 | flyback- | would have died first |
| 04:20.39 | Dr{Who} | so far no fires at home but a few times i got close with my mig welder and having way to much fun. |
| 04:20.44 | flyback- | it was burning a hole in the carpet beside my sleeping bag |
| 04:20.45 | RobotGuy | I wonder if TCT could have squeezed a bit more RAM and Flash onto Hammer. |
| 04:20.50 | flyback- | my dad woke up 2 floors up and smelled smoke |
| 04:20.55 | flyback- | rc car battery charger stuck on |
| 04:20.56 | Dr{Who} | heh |
| 04:21.09 | flyback- | I use them for heaters also |
| 04:21.15 | RobotGuy | A gumstix-verdex board is just a little more than a Hammer. |
| 04:21.17 | flyback- | to me it's just cheap insurance |
| 04:21.22 | flyback- | one less thing on my nerves |
| 04:21.52 | Dr{Who} | sure he could just maybe would need some address line changes |
| 04:22.05 | Dr{Who} | depends on what he has mapped out already. |
| 04:22.28 | flyback- | RobotGuy: |
| 04:22.38 | flyback- | I know prpplague so I can certify the hammer :) |
| 04:23.44 | flyback- | oh well lost $7 and considering I got a 8051 mcu with 8kb flash in plcc package, a infrared keyboard and remote/mouse that have a procotocol that is documented |
| 04:23.50 | flyback- | there's $7 in value right there |
| 04:24.02 | flyback- | also 1 meg of nor flash on a 72 pin simm |
| 04:24.10 | flyback- | hmm |
| 04:24.28 | flyback- | mabye I will temp solder some caps onto those 2 broken dlink routers tomarrow so I can jtag test them :P |
| 04:24.55 | flyback- | hey dr I am glad I could help you, I appreciate the help |
| 04:25.44 | Dr{Who} | ya i have been tryin to hang here more.. its a nice place to chill. |
| 04:26.14 | flyback- | feel free :) |
| 04:26.22 | flyback- | how old are you, I am just curious |
| 04:26.32 | Dr{Who} | 38 |
| 04:26.36 | flyback- | ah |
| 04:26.39 | flyback- | older than me :P |
| 04:26.45 | Dr{Who} | married with teen (girl) uggg |
| 04:26.52 | flyback- | heh I haven't even dated yet :/ |
| 04:26.58 | flyback- | but I am an aspie so .. |
| 04:27.03 | flyback- | basically 1/4 savant |
| 04:27.45 | RobotGuy | This is a cool place to be. |
| 04:27.53 | Dr{Who} | too few smart people out in the world... good to talk with a few here. |
| 04:29.28 | Dr{Who} | well i found the line of code in bash that is causing the kernel memory taint.. but im a little confused still. have to work on it more later im brain dead now. |
| 04:30.04 | flyback- | Dr{Who}: also |
| 04:30.12 | flyback- | you might want to get a juicebox off ebay if you can find any :P |
| 04:30.26 | flyback- | 60mhz arm7tdmi 2 or 8 meg ram |
| 04:30.32 | flyback- | jtag pins and serial if you solder to them |
| 04:30.37 | flyback- | a cart slot that can read sd/mmc |
| 04:30.45 | flyback- | you need a raw nand chip to make it boot from your own custom linux |
| 04:30.55 | flyback- | uses uclinux for the mp3 and picture view mode |
| 04:31.02 | flyback- | 240x160 4096 color lcd |
| 04:31.13 | Dr{Who} | bash patch bash32-11 brings in bash's own getcwd() and that faults out during a memcpy but only sometimes. |
| 04:31.17 | Dr{Who} | cool thanks. |
| 04:31.17 | flyback- | I got 6 back when they were down to $13 |
| 04:31.25 | flyback- | you can find them in packs now sometimes on ebay for that much :P |
| 04:31.27 | Dr{Who} | you have a wiki of all the ones you have found? |
| 04:31.44 | Dr{Who} | maybe something we should start someplace if not. |
| 04:31.54 | flyback- | heh |
| 04:31.57 | flyback- | this channel |
| 04:32.09 | Dr{Who} | : c ) |
| 04:32.10 | flyback- | http://elinux.org/Hardware_Hacking |
| 04:32.26 | flyback- | I have some juiceboxes, a dht-walnut and I had a webpal :/ |
| 04:32.51 | Dr{Who} | ok well im out.. my better half is calling guessing she wants me home : c ) |
| 04:33.25 | flyback- | night |
| 04:33.27 | flyback- | thx again |
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| 05:19.46 | flyback- | cool that weird noise I was getting when I put a audioPCI in my one box turned out to be a bad card, another one worked |
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| 06:23.08 | flyback- | http://simmconn.tripod.com/ <--- hahaha how cool! |
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| 09:27.48 | Madsy | flyback-: hahah.. I remember that card |
| 09:28.01 | Madsy | My last ISA card :) |
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