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| 01:37.23 | Mirell | flyback-: You're evidently not wanted in this channel, so why do you keep talking? |
| 01:37.36 | flyback- | wasn't even paying attention to this channel right now |
| 01:37.37 | flyback- | heh |
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| 01:38.16 | RobotGuy | I just have him on ignore. |
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| 21:21.56 | prpplague | ~seen landley |
| 21:21.58 | purl | landley <n=landley@cpe-72-177-114-214.austin.res.rr.com> was last seen on IRC in channel #edev, 1d 18h 13m 47s ago, saying: 'Cool.'. |
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| 22:14.58 | RobotGuy | prpplague: Hi there! |
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| 22:39.44 | RobotGuy | flyback is a complete annoyance. |
| 22:39.52 | sorphin | i've wanted to ban him for eons |
| 22:40.03 | RobotGuy | Why is he not banned permanently? |
| 22:40.07 | *** mode/#edev [+b flyback!user@*.hsd1.pa.comcast.net] by sorphin |
| 22:40.11 | sorphin | he is now ;) |
| 22:40.15 | RobotGuy | :D:D |
| 22:40.24 | sorphin | prpplague seems to have some aversion |
| 22:40.29 | sorphin | to banning trolls |
| 22:40.48 | RobotGuy | I think flyback has more than one account. He definitely has more than one nick. |
| 22:40.59 | *** mode/#edev [+b *!user@*.hsd1.pa.comcast.net] by sorphin |
| 22:41.14 | RobotGuy | Good work. :) |
| 22:41.15 | sorphin | well, as long as he doesn't change his identd reporting |
| 22:41.31 | sorphin | if he violates the ban |
| 22:41.39 | sorphin | we can go to the ircops |
| 22:41.41 | RobotGuy | You could just ban the nick, since nicks have to be registered. |
| 22:41.52 | sorphin | well, i want him to violate the ban |
| 22:42.00 | sorphin | then we can get him klined |
| 22:42.02 | RobotGuy | Of course, he might not register a nick. |
| 22:42.11 | sorphin | but anyways |
| 22:42.13 | RobotGuy | That would be a good thing. |
| 22:42.18 | sorphin | back to my robotics ;) |
| 22:42.36 | RobotGuy | What are you working on sorphin? I also do robotics (two robots). |
| 22:42.42 | sorphin | Vex stuff |
| 22:42.48 | RobotGuy | Website? |
| 22:43.06 | sorphin | www.vexlabs.com |
| 22:43.28 | RobotGuy | I mean your stuff. Do you have a website? |
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| 22:44.18 | sorphin | stupid BX |
| 22:44.31 | sorphin | anyways, RS used to carry the stuff |
| 22:45.38 | RobotGuy | They are carrying Parallax stuff now. |
| 22:45.50 | sorphin | nod |
| 22:45.54 | sorphin | and cellphones |
| 22:45.55 | sorphin | lol |
| 22:46.04 | sorphin | I'm not much a fan of RS.. |
| 22:46.22 | sorphin | Though I wish i had caught the vex selloff, stuff was majorly cheap |
| 22:46.36 | RobotGuy | Me either, but I did buy a RoboQuad there, just before Sharper Image came out with them for $49.95. |
| 22:46.47 | sorphin | ah |
| 22:47.27 | RobotGuy | I use the Lynxmotion Servo Erector set for a lot of my stuff. |
| 22:48.10 | RobotGuy | You can see W.A.L.T.E.R. at www.thedynaplex.org/robotics/rovers/walter and I am adding new pictures and such today. |
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| 23:29.05 | RobotGuy | prpplague: Greetings |
| 23:30.41 | prpplague | RobotGuy greetings |
| 23:31.39 | RobotGuy | I'm taking a break from Buildroot for a bit. |
| 23:31.57 | sorphin | prpplague: flyback has been banned... according to sjhill he's been stirring up a lot of crap last night |
| 23:32.09 | RobotGuy | I can confirm that |
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| 23:33.46 | agaffney | sorphin! |
| 23:33.59 | agaffney | yeah, flyback has been "noisy" the last few days |
| 23:34.05 | agaffney | in here and #openwrt |
| 23:34.16 | agaffney | he seems to like using /amsg (or whatever it is) |
| 23:34.18 | RobotGuy | agaffney: On every channel he goes on. |
| 23:34.35 | agaffney | here and #openwrt are the two I hang out in that he's in also :P |
| 23:34.51 | RobotGuy | ##electronics also |
| 23:35.16 | sorphin | agaffney: i'm here because sjhill caught me on IM |
| 23:36.01 | agaffney | sorphin: yeah, I pondered poking you about him last night |
| 23:36.08 | agaffney | but I didn't care enough :P |
| 23:36.08 | prpplague | sorphin hey, ok thanks |
| 23:36.34 | prpplague | i guess i need to add more ops for the channel |
| 23:36.42 | sorphin | i temp op'd sjhill |
| 23:36.50 | sorphin | you can add him to the main list if you want |
| 23:36.57 | prpplague | fishhead/flyback is the only one we've ever had trouble with |
| 23:37.01 | sorphin | right |
| 23:37.02 | prpplague | sorphin yea will do |
| 23:37.05 | RobotGuy | I left here a few times because flyback was being so noisy. |
| 23:37.05 | sorphin | but he's persistant |
| 23:37.24 | prpplague | sorphin thanks for taking care of it |
| 23:37.29 | sorphin | yeah |
| 23:37.39 | sorphin | prpplague: the nice thing |
| 23:37.42 | sorphin | is if he violats the ban |
| 23:37.43 | RobotGuy | sorphin: Yes, thanks very much. :) |
| 23:37.59 | sorphin | we can have him permanently banned by the ircops ;) |
| 23:38.09 | prpplague | sorphin well as far as i am concerned he's got a permanent ban on edev |
| 23:38.22 | prpplague | sorphin he went off his meds again about month ago |
| 23:38.35 | RobotGuy | prpplague: I can relate to that. |
| 23:39.01 | sorphin | well, someone let me know if he reappears in here or let prpplague know |
| 23:39.07 | *** mode/#edev [+o prpplague] by ChanServ |
| 23:39.09 | sorphin | we'll talk to the admins about him |
| 23:39.23 | RobotGuy | sorphin: I definitely will let you or prpplague know. |
| 23:40.21 | RobotGuy | I hang out all the time when I am online, and that is a LOT. |
| 23:40.37 | prpplague | my laptop had a hard drive failure on friday |
| 23:40.37 | sorphin | right |
| 23:40.48 | sorphin | prpplague: too much ARM code? :) |
| 23:40.51 | prpplague | gotta pick up a new hd and reload this week so i'll be off and on |
| 23:40.56 | prpplague | sorphin: pr0n |
| 23:41.02 | sorphin | prpplague: that'd do it ;) |
| 23:41.03 | sorphin | lol |
| 23:41.29 | prpplague | sorphin nice to see you on the channel though |
| 23:41.34 | sorphin | danke |
| 23:41.50 | sorphin | in new group now |
| 23:41.53 | sorphin | and swamped |
| 23:42.11 | sorphin | no more network security |
| 23:42.13 | sorphin | thank god |
| 23:42.43 | RobotGuy | prpplague: I got W.A.L.T.E.R. all rebuilt with the new decks and such. :D |
| 23:43.11 | sorphin | RobotGuy: one annoying thing about the Vex stuff |
| 23:43.27 | sorphin | their micro box... they hide several pins under the case |
| 23:43.34 | sorphin | turns out, so instead of using their programming dongle |
| 23:43.38 | RobotGuy | sorphin: What is that? I use Lynxmotion Servo Erector Set stuff. |
| 23:43.41 | sorphin | which has a little PIC in it |
| 23:43.42 | *** mode/#edev [+o agaffney] by ChanServ |
| 23:43.49 | sorphin | the hidden pins |
| 23:44.01 | sorphin | you could program the pics directly |
| 23:44.01 | sorphin | heh |
| 23:44.05 | agaffney | somebody is trusting *me* with ops? :P |
| 23:44.05 | sorphin | agaffney: scary |
| 23:44.12 | sorphin | well |
| 23:44.18 | agaffney | mwahahahaha |
| 23:44.21 | sorphin | probably because prpplague knows you live near me |
| 23:44.21 | sorphin | lol |
| 23:44.26 | sorphin | and i could thwap you in person |
| 23:44.30 | agaffney | and that you could come kick my ass? :P |
| 23:44.34 | RobotGuy | I am setting up a couple of IRC servers on my network. Servers are online, but not connected yet. |
| 23:44.54 | sorphin | agaffney: hehe |
| 23:44.59 | *** mode/#edev [+o Mirell] by ChanServ |
| 23:45.07 | sorphin | agaffney: or tell your wife |
| 23:45.08 | sorphin | lol |
| 23:45.11 | agaffney | heh |
| 23:45.12 | sorphin | who's Mirell? |
| 23:45.23 | agaffney | man, who doesn't have ops in here now? :P |
| 23:45.29 | *** mode/#edev [-o agaffney] by ChanServ |
| 23:45.34 | prpplague | Mirell's from austin, friends with landley |
| 23:45.35 | RobotGuy | Lots of folks |
| 23:45.58 | sorphin | purl: seen cosmicpenguin |
| 23:46.00 | purl | cosmicpenguin <n=nobody@163.181.251.103> was last seen on IRC in channel #edev, 2d 1h 5m 51s ago, saying: 'sorry'. |
| 23:46.06 | sorphin | heh |
| 23:46.16 | prpplague | agaffney the number of ops here is very low compared to alot of channels |
| 23:46.36 | RobotGuy | I have two channels setup on this server. |
| 23:47.07 | agaffney | hmm, I didn't realize there were so many people in this channel |
| 23:47.14 | agaffney | most of them are lurkers |
| 23:47.14 | sorphin | RobotGuy: ever modded any servos for continuous rotation? |
| 23:47.25 | sorphin | agaffney: #tivo was that way too |
| 23:47.30 | sorphin | and i'd boot people |
| 23:47.34 | sorphin | and they'd come back and whine |
| 23:47.41 | agaffney | sorphin: umm, wouldn't that be a motor? :P |
| 23:47.50 | sorphin | agaffney: exactly |
| 23:47.59 | RobotGuy | sorphin: I have not actually done the modification myself, but have used them. I am more interested in Open Servos. |
| 23:47.59 | sorphin | agaffney: but a motor that can handle PWM |
| 23:48.01 | sorphin | :P |
| 23:48.15 | sorphin | agaffney: and the torque specs are known |
| 23:48.21 | sorphin | and an H-Bridge isn't required |
| 23:48.31 | RobotGuy | I need to get three servos from the front arm on W.A.L.T.E.R. |
| 23:48.43 | RobotGuy | agaffney: What did you get? |
| 23:48.43 | agaffney | an OBD-2 engine diagnostic code reader |
| 23:48.44 | sorphin | agaffney: we don't want to know about your kinda toys |
| 23:48.45 | sorphin | lol |
| 23:48.47 | agaffney | hah |
| 23:48.56 | agaffney | $36 w/ shipping on ebay |
| 23:48.57 | sorphin | agaffney: i've had one of those for years |
| 23:49.03 | agaffney | yeah, well I haven't :P |
| 23:49.10 | sorphin | uses the ELM chip |
| 23:49.18 | agaffney | and as much of a bitch as my truck is, it'll come in handy |
| 23:49.23 | agaffney | especially the ability to clear codes |
| 23:49.23 | sorphin | what I want |
| 23:49.33 | RobotGuy | wmat: Are you here?? |
| 23:49.37 | sorphin | is the thing that can go beyond ODB2 |
| 23:49.40 | sorphin | for my car |
| 23:50.11 | agaffney | were there a "lot" of vehicles that supported ODB2 pre-1996? |
| 23:50.15 | RobotGuy | prpplague: Which version of CodeSorcery G++ has support for Hammer? |
| 23:50.29 | sorphin | agaffney: not sure |
| 23:50.31 | agaffney | my friend has a '94 GMC Sonoma (Chevy S-10), and I'm wondering if this will work with it |
| 23:50.36 | sorphin | agaffney: what i mean though |
| 23:50.44 | sorphin | is that can change parameters |
| 23:50.50 | agaffney | yeah, I know what you mean |
| 23:50.57 | agaffney | "beyond" the basic OBD2 specs |
| 23:50.58 | sorphin | nissan changed versions of the device a few years back |
| 23:51.21 | sorphin | flip off some annoying crap in the BCM |
| 23:51.26 | agaffney | rig up a connector with a laptop |
| 23:51.30 | agaffney | and find the specs |
| 23:51.35 | agaffney | toy with it yourself :P |
| 23:51.35 | sorphin | not that simple |
| 23:51.53 | agaffney | no? from what I read, it is for *reading* the codes |
| 23:52.05 | sorphin | agaff: |
| 23:52.10 | sorphin | not for changing things |
| 23:52.19 | agaffney | yeah, go figure :P |
| 23:52.27 | sorphin | prpplague: s/far/fat/ |
| 23:52.38 | prpplague | doh yea |
| 23:52.40 | prpplague | fat |
| 23:52.50 | agaffney | which is odd considering my occupation :P |
| 23:52.50 | sorphin | agaffney: mormon? |
| 23:52.51 | sorphin | lol |
| 23:53.02 | agaffney | nope, just no desire to get stupid drunk :P |
| 23:53.10 | sorphin | uh |
| 23:53.10 | agaffney | I don't object to it morally or anything |
| 23:53.14 | RobotGuy | prpplague: Which version of CodeSorcery works for Hammer? |
| 23:53.17 | sorphin | nothing says you have to get stupid drunk to drink |
| 23:53.22 | agaffney | I don't give a flying fsck if other people drink |
| 23:53.27 | agaffney | it just doesn't appeal to me |
| 23:53.30 | sorphin | nod |
| 23:53.32 | agaffney | and I haven't found anything I like |
| 23:53.40 | agaffney | well, no beer, anyway |
| 23:53.49 | agaffney | nothing wrong with a decent margarita |
| 23:53.50 | sorphin | prpplague: so how's the tool serious going? |
| 23:53.55 | sorphin | agaffney: i don't like beer |
| 23:54.03 | sorphin | agaffney: just regular liquor |
| 23:54.04 | agaffney | I don't understand how anyone likes beer |
| 23:54.14 | sorphin | agaffney: it all tastes the same to me |
| 23:54.30 | prpplague | agaffney: not that i want to debate your choice, but drinking doesn't equate to being drunk |
| 23:54.30 | RobotGuy | agaffney: A beer once in awhile helps keep me calm and relaxed so I don't get frustrated. |
| 23:54.41 | sorphin | tequila ;) |
| 23:54.47 | agaffney | prpplague: true, but if not to get drunk, what's the purpose of drinking alcohol? |
| 23:55.08 | RobotGuy | agaffney: See my comment. :) |
| 23:55.11 | sorphin | agaffney: thins your blood :P and it's a social thing |
| 23:55.15 | agaffney | heh |
| 23:55.15 | prpplague | RobotGuy any version of codesourcery that supports arm9 will work |
| 23:55.26 | RobotGuy | prpplague: OK, cool. |
| 23:55.28 | prpplague | RobotGuy specific support for the hammer hasn't been add yet |
| 23:55.35 | prpplague | RobotGuy wmat is working on that now |
| 23:55.35 | agaffney | sorphin: I never understood the "social thing" either...you could drink water socially just the same :P |
| 23:55.47 | sorphin | prpplague: you should have all sorts now... Hammer, Nail, Saw, etc |
| 23:55.48 | sorphin | :) |
| 23:55.56 | RobotGuy | prpplague: Cool! I wish I could afford CodeSorcery. |
| 23:55.57 | sorphin | agaffney: i hate water |
| 23:56.20 | sorphin | agaffney: i'd drink most drinks i have w/o alcohol if they could be made to taste identical |
| 23:56.28 | RobotGuy | I downloaded the free toolchain and am going to try to use it with buildroot. |
| 23:56.42 | prpplague | RobotGuy hehe, each to his own, i much prefer open source tools |
| 23:56.54 | agaffney | sorphin: I drink water like crazy |
| 23:57.07 | prpplague | sorphin the tool? |
| 23:57.08 | RobotGuy | prpplague: Oh, so do I as long as they do not get me frustrated. |
| 23:57.21 | sorphin | agaffney: so does my wife, but she's a pices (sp?) so she's a fish |
| 23:57.22 | sorphin | lol |
| 23:57.27 | RobotGuy | I do not handle frustration well at all. |
| 23:57.50 | agaffney | sorphin: so am I :P |
| 23:57.52 | sorphin | prpplague: your line (well, that you Co on) of stuff |
| 23:57.59 | sorphin | agaffney: Gemini |
| 23:58.01 | agaffney | sorphin: and it's "pisces" |
| 23:58.10 | sorphin | k |
| 23:58.24 | agaffney | not that a person's zodiac sign means diddly squat :P |
| 23:58.32 | sorphin | cant' stand beer |
| 23:58.33 | sorphin | lol |
| 23:58.42 | sorphin | and hate craut |
| 23:58.43 | prpplague | agaffney as to your question, i enjoy the entire flavors and complexity of beer, i rarely get drunk |
| 23:58.44 | RobotGuy | :D:D |
| 23:58.59 | agaffney | prpplague: I hate the taste of beer :P |
| 23:59.08 | agaffney | if it tasted better, I'd probably drink it |
| 23:59.15 | sorphin | prpplague: they all have that bitter HOPS taste to me, personally |
| 23:59.27 | RobotGuy | prpplague: I had a complete C++ toolchain built and working, and built a perfect initrd with it. Then something happened and everything went south. ;( |
| 23:59.29 | agaffney | is the hops what makes it taste so bitter? |
| 23:59.32 | prpplague | agaffney probably just used to the generic crap that sells in most places in america |
| 23:59.35 | sorphin | agaffney: ya |
| 23:59.37 | agaffney | don't they make beers with something other than hops? |
| 23:59.51 | prpplague | RobotGuy i've never heard of someone having so much troubles with buildroot |
| 23:59.54 | agaffney | prpplague: quite possibly, but I've had "good" micro-brewed stuff, too |
| 23:59.58 | agaffney | which I didn't really like |