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| 00:30.25 | landley | Just sent in a -chroot patch to qemu. (With -su option as well to set uid:gid). Because it's desperately needed one forever. |
| 00:39.29 | landley | Active today. :) |
| 00:55.51 | ds2 | planning on running bad code in QEMU? |
| 00:57.26 | landley | Not particularly, but you never know... |
| 00:57.29 | landley | Root is generally dangerous. |
| 00:57.40 | landley | Dinner time... |
| 01:01.58 | ds2 | yes, toor is safer ;) |
| 03:14.28 | Mirell | Heh |
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| 14:14.02 | prpplague | ho ho hum |
| 14:18.09 | prpplague | http://www.hackaday.com/2008/03/03/bootable-usb-ram-capture/ |
| 14:18.17 | prpplague | sounds like a nice use for the nail board |
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| 15:03.24 | chouimat|work | morning |
| 15:04.14 | sjhill | hey chouimat |
| 15:04.24 | sjhill | wth is CP?!?! |
| 15:05.15 | wmat | elinux.org is all moved and back to normal for those of you posting docs there |
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| 15:08.20 | kajaca | <PROTECTED> |
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| 16:38.52 | kajaca | any one know, off hand, of an ssh client for smart phones? |
| 16:43.38 | agaffney | I use pssh for palmos |
| 16:44.07 | agaffney | what OS are you looking for a client for? |
| 16:46.02 | kajaca | windows moble blackjack 2 |
| 16:46.38 | kajaca | its either 5.0 or 6.0 |
| 16:48.11 | agaffney | http://www.pocketputty.net/ |
| 16:48.17 | agaffney | that wasn't hard |
| 16:48.30 | agaffney | first result when searching for "windows mobile ssh client" |
| 16:48.50 | kajaca | it looked like it was touch screen only |
| 16:49.31 | agaffney | eh, pssh for palm os has an on-screen keyboard if you want it, but it can also use the device keyboard for input |
| 16:49.36 | agaffney | I'm sure pocketputty is similar |
| 16:49.39 | agaffney | just try it |
| 16:50.01 | agaffney | is that question the only reason you came in this channel? |
| 16:50.18 | kajaca | nope |
| 16:52.34 | kajaca | i'm basicly abusing my work phone to keep an eye on whats going on with the hammer |
| 16:52.46 | agaffney | heh |
| 16:53.31 | kajaca | it's easyer then rereading the my logs |
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| 19:23.11 | chouimat|work | CosmicPenguin: ping |
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| 20:09.56 | CosmicPenguin | yo |
| 20:12.26 | RobotGuy | oy |
| 20:12.37 | RobotGuy | What's up? |
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| 20:31.59 | RobotGuy | ~seen prpplague |
| 20:32.01 | purl | prpplague <n=dave@mail.americanmicrosystems.com> was last seen on IRC in channel #edev, 6h 13m 44s ago, saying: 'sounds like a nice use for the nail board'. |
| 20:32.43 | chouimat|work | CosmicPenguin: nm I found the info I wanted to ask you |
| 20:35.27 | CosmicPenguin | alrighty then |
| 20:35.30 | CosmicPenguin | off with you |
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| 20:35.51 | chouimat|work | CosmicPenguin: :( |
| 20:35.54 | RobotGuy | I thought only I said "off with you." |
| 21:40.57 | SpeedEvil | Interesting. |
| 21:41.20 | SpeedEvil | The TI GSM chip in the Neo1973 (openmoko) has sprung a leak. |
| 21:41.28 | SpeedEvil | NDA'd docs have appeared. |
| 21:48.10 | RobotGuy | So the Neo1973 is not truely Open Source. |
| 21:49.10 | CosmicPenguin | open hardware != open software |
| 21:49.28 | CosmicPenguin | its not hypocritical if the software is open and the hardware is not |
| 22:02.37 | ds2 | "oops" |
| 22:05.36 | ds2 | anyone know off hand if anyone did a comparism of how the low power x86's compare with the ARMs where the x86's are broken out into Geode, VIA, and even intel? |
| 22:06.02 | CosmicPenguin | thats not a very fair comparison - arms vs broken x86s |
| 22:06.53 | CosmicPenguin | Seriously though, I'm not aware of any legitimate third party comparisions |
| 22:07.12 | ds2 | it is not fair, I am trying to make some sense of all the press releases that came out in the last few months |
| 22:08.16 | CosmicPenguin | Its hard to make a realistic comparison since the parts aren't really used in the same world |
| 22:08.42 | CosmicPenguin | marketing drones will compare clock speeds and power usage, because they perceive that as being sexy |
| 22:08.49 | ds2 | the devices Intel dub's the "MID" seems to be a reasonable comparism point |
| 22:08.59 | CosmicPenguin | but I don't think thats really valid - there's a lot more to an "embedded" system then a clock and a few watts here or there |
| 22:10.12 | ds2 | agree but what I would like to see is - take a via MID (say, a WiBrain device) - play MP3's on it til it is dead; and repeat the same with a Nokia N800 - then post the times |
| 22:10.35 | ds2 | with all the clock throttling, the claim of a clock speed doesn't make much sense |
| 22:11.38 | ds2 | maybe to normalize it, divide the time by the watt-hour ratings of the battery |
| 22:12.57 | CosmicPenguin | Its a silly comparsion for sure - I would never try to sell the geode into the hammer space, for example |
| 22:13.11 | CosmicPenguin | just like the hammer wouldn't try to sell itself in a thin client space |
| 22:13.33 | ds2 | donno about that...the hammer + LCD could make a nice dedicated VNC terminal |
| 22:13.56 | ds2 | I see your point but the whole PDA area seesm to be a reasonable common ground |
| 22:13.59 | CosmicPenguin | it would struggle with Windows apps if it didn't have 2D |
| 22:14.21 | CosmicPenguin | or at least - it would have trouble compeating |
| 22:14.24 | ds2 | ah you still consider legacy apps like windows :P |
| 22:14.35 | ds2 | fair enough |
| 22:14.42 | CosmicPenguin | unfortunately, so does the market... :) |
| 22:15.12 | CosmicPenguin | But to be fair, a typical remote gnome installation would probably also struggle without blits |
| 22:15.21 | ds2 | but I guess, in the PDA+ area, there seems to be a lot of smoke and very little numbers and that is irritating to say the leasst |
| 22:16.13 | SpeedEvil | Smoke only when you use non-OEM batteries! |
| 22:17.19 | ds2 | :) |
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