| 00:41.44 | roxfan2 | http://pastebin.ca/929770 <- anyone familiar with this bootloader? |
| 00:42.29 | CosmicPenguin | Thats CE |
| 00:43.14 | roxfan2 | um well yes |
| 00:43.32 | roxfan2 | actually what i need to know if it has an interactive mode |
| 00:43.44 | roxfan2 | and if so, how to get into it |
| 00:43.58 | CosmicPenguin | Thats the kernel |
| 00:44.09 | CosmicPenguin | I don't know if there is a console interactive mode |
| 00:44.17 | CosmicPenguin | I've never seen one, but I haven't spent much time with CE before |
| 00:44.25 | CosmicPenguin | at least not at that level |
| 00:45.20 | roxfan2 | hmm well that's the first thing that appears on the serial... |
| 00:47.26 | CosmicPenguin | there is probably a simple bootloader right before this - but it doesn't have any serial output |
| 00:47.38 | roxfan2 | :( |
| 00:47.44 | CosmicPenguin | loading and running a CE kernel is stupidly simple |
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| 13:09.08 | Jin^eLD | hi, I am not sure if this is the right place to ask but I'm kind of getting desperate due to the lack of information :> I need to use uclinux with ARM9 and have some uclinux related questions, mostly in regard to the toolchain |
| 13:09.47 | Jin^eLD | I'm quite familiar with the "regular" (i.e. normal linux with mmu) build process/crosscompiling for ARM, but the uclinux specifics are somewhat unclear to me |
| 13:10.31 | Jin^eLD | do I use the "usual" linux-gnueabi toolchain and simply postprocess with elf2flt, or do I need a special toolchain to build for uclinux? |
| 13:13.29 | SpeedEvil | why use uclinux? |
| 13:13.45 | Jin^eLD | SpeedEvil: not my choice, customer wants it because they are convinced it is faster and they have some minimalistic stuff |
| 13:14.03 | Jin^eLD | I know OE quite well so building a toolchain + rootfs for an ARM9 based board would be max 1 day of work |
| 13:14.20 | Jin^eLD | but uclinux drives me crazy, broken links, 4 year old info, etc. - difficult to get started |
| 13:14.39 | Jin^eLD | so far I could not find anyone who would be able to answer a few basic questions |
| 13:16.32 | SpeedEvil | Silly people. |
| 13:17.08 | SpeedEvil | Unless it's very tiny RAM/ROM I suppose |
| 13:17.14 | Jin^eLD | well, apparently they want to strip everything down to the very, very minimum |
| 13:17.32 | SpeedEvil | Though my router runs on 2.6.20, 2M ROM, 8M RAM |
| 13:17.48 | SpeedEvil | Which isn't exactly huge nowadays. |
| 13:18.00 | Jin^eLD | they are convinced that context switching will cost them too much, so they want to turn off the mmu |
| 13:18.08 | Jin^eLD | well whatever, I can't change that :) |
| 13:18.31 | Jin^eLD | I'd never go for uclinux if I have an ARM9... but not my choice in this case :P |
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| 14:48.14 | dbtid | anyone know if at91_register_uart is supposed to replace at91_serial_init for the Atmel AT91 series chips, for linux 2.6.25? |
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| 15:30.00 | ce_geek | prpplague: You around? Quick one.... (sorta) |
| 15:30.12 | prpplague | ce_geek: yea, whats up? |
| 15:30.26 | ce_geek | prpplague: Just curious, at a high level, what's involved in compiling software for the arm that is not already in the buildroot. |
| 15:31.11 | ce_geek | prpplague: So far it's just highlighting things in 'make menuconfig'. What if I've got a simple LED blinker, or something like that? |
| 15:32.03 | prpplague | ce_geek: once you add to your path the cross-compiler you can compile whatever you want |
| 15:32.22 | ce_geek | prpplague: Ah okay. |
| 15:32.22 | prpplague | ce_geek: i.e. arm-linux-uclibc-gcc -o helloworld helloworld.c |
| 15:32.44 | ce_geek | prpplague: That makes sense. Good good. |
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| 15:50.57 | wmat | prpplague: I've turned on the "E-mail me when a page I'm watching is changed" function on elinux.org |
| 15:51.07 | prpplague | wmat: cool thanks |
| 15:51.10 | wmat | prpplague: thought that'd be handy for you tincantools stuff |
| 15:51.26 | prpplague | wmat: how long with you keep the movial server active? |
| 15:51.39 | prpplague | wmat: i think i've got most of the stuff moved over |
| 15:51.48 | prpplague | wmat: but i need to spend some time double checking |
| 15:52.17 | wmat | prpplague: dunno, i haven't contacted movial yet, so it can stay active at the alternate url for as long as we need it |
| 15:52.34 | prpplague | wmat: ok, just didn't want it droping off in the next couple of days |
| 15:53.01 | wmat | no worries |
| 15:53.02 | prpplague | wmat: i know you've been swamped with work and the wiki, but just curious if you done anything with the hammer |
| 15:55.07 | wmat | prpplague: I haven't, however, my plate is cleaning up nicely of late and it's at the top of my to-dos ;) |
| 15:55.37 | prpplague | wmat: okie dokie thanks |
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| 16:47.25 | ce_geek | Anyone into ham radio? I was thinking it might be possible to make a TNC out of a hammer. |
| 16:47.51 | ce_geek | Hmmn, would need audio in/out though. |
| 16:49.47 | Crofton | ce_geek, it has a2d convertors that can run 100ksps or so |
| 16:50.15 | ce_geek | Crofton: Hmmmn.. interesting. |
| 16:54.17 | prpplague | i've done a rudimentry test decoding RTTY with the hammer |
| 16:57.13 | ce_geek | Slick |
| 16:57.24 | ce_geek | prpplague: Work okay? |
| 16:58.45 | prpplague | ce_geek: yea i was able to decode with no problems, but it was pretty simple test |
| 16:59.04 | prpplague | ce_geek: had a rf receiver with an audio output configured |
| 16:59.17 | prpplague | ce_geek: just piped the audio into the ADC, and did the sampling |
| 16:59.17 | ce_geek | prpplague: Oh man, that's cool. I was playing with my ham radio this weekend, thinking it would be neat to be able to control stuff remotely with it by pushing keys. If I could get the hammer to decode which key was being pressed, that would be really slick. |
| 16:59.39 | SpeedEvil | DTMF decoder is probably easier |
| 17:01.30 | ce_geek | SpeedEvil: Slick |
| 17:05.19 | sunrunner20 | thats what I was going to suggest :) |
| 17:05.38 | sunrunner20 | theres lots of DTMF stuff out there |
| 17:05.50 | sunrunner20 | hell, crack open an old phone :p |
| 17:06.02 | sunrunner20 | (for encoder at least) |
| 17:07.33 | sunrunner20 | not sure your allowd to transmit DTMF over shortwave though (would be something to check, I'm no expert in that area) |
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| 18:40.04 | prpplague | round two of the wintry weather |
| 18:42.29 | ce_geek | wintry weather? |
| 18:43.38 | prpplague | http://image.weather.com/web/radar/us_dfw_ultraradar_plus_usen.jpg |
| 18:45.54 | ce_geek | Holy cow. I didn't know that was possible. |
| 18:46.01 | prpplague | hehe |
| 18:46.07 | ce_geek | I mean, we have 5 feet of snow in parts of northern Maine.... but.... |
| 18:47.13 | chouimat|work | prpplague: hmmmm a snowstorm over the weekend or my mother visiting ... I can't decide |
| 18:47.13 | ce_geek | Do people freak out when it snows? Cars sliding everywhere? |
| 18:47.14 | chouimat|work | ce_geek: not here |
| 18:47.14 | prpplague | ce_geek: yea, western parts of texas and north parts of texas usually see 5-10" per year |
| 18:47.30 | prpplague | ce_geek: for the dfw area we get maybe 1" per year |
| 18:47.33 | ce_geek | prpplague: Ah ok. I didn't know that. |
| 18:47.54 | prpplague | ce_geek: yea, most people here don't know how to drive in snow conditions |
| 18:47.59 | prpplague | ce_geek: pretty much everything closes |
| 18:48.20 | ce_geek | prpplague: Up here, it's gotta be pretty serious to close stuff. |
| 18:48.45 | prpplague | ce_geek: hehe, 1" is pretty serious for us, hehe |
| 18:48.52 | ce_geek | prpplague: People must drive motorcycles year round down there. |
| 18:48.53 | prpplague | ce_geek: everything is relative |
| 18:48.59 | prpplague | ce_geek: pretty much |
| 18:49.00 | ce_geek | prpplague: indeed it is. |
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| 18:55.48 | chouimat|work | prpplague: Quebec City got something like 400cm so far this year and ottawa is around 338 cm |
| 19:15.30 | wiml | anyone know of a good hobbyist-oriented 802.3af (power over ethernet) device? |
| 19:15.44 | wiml | ideally, I guess, and SPI ethernet thing that also supplies regulated power |
| 19:19.03 | sunrunner20 | wiml: there are devices to add the power to it and some to remove it |
| 19:19.29 | sunrunner20 | my highschool uses them to power the APs |
| 19:19.31 | wiml | yeah... |
| 19:20.01 | sunrunner20 | they are all likely based off one design... I would find the cheapest avialable :p |
| 19:20.03 | wiml | I want to build something smallish on the device end. (the upstream end will have a injector or something.) |
| 19:20.52 | wiml | so, it would be cool to have the 802.3af circuitry on the same pcb as the ethernet circuitry. seems like something someone would have built by now. dunno. |
| 19:21.47 | prpplague | wiml: generally speaking PoE is handled seperately than the actual ethernet |
| 19:22.27 | prpplague | wiml: there are a number of reference designs that allow you to implement PoE in a design along side standard ethernet |
| 19:23.02 | wiml | yeah, it doesn't look TOO hard to roll my own on the device end. |
| 19:23.08 | wiml | but surely someone else already has. |
| 19:23.37 | wiml | like a Packet Whacker but with the .3af circuitry and regulator so that it supplies power to its mcu rather than consuming it. |
| 19:24.03 | sunrunner20 | http://www.linear.com/pc/viewCategory.jsp?navId=H0,C1,C1003,C1125 |
| 19:25.22 | sunrunner20 | looks like a mostly monlithic design |
| 19:25.26 | sunrunner20 | http://www.linear.com/pc/productDetail.jsp?navId=H0,C1,C1003,C1125,P37359 |
| 19:26.33 | sunrunner20 | was snapy for me :0 |
| 19:28.00 | wiml | hey, yeah, that's what i'm looking for. |
| 19:28.13 | sunrunner20 | :) |
| 19:28.27 | sunrunner20 | there are a few parts you'll need |
| 19:28.28 | wiml | that plus an SPI ethernet MAC+PHY on a small board. |
| 19:28.30 | wiml | yeah. |
| 19:28.45 | sunrunner20 | looks like there is an isolation transformer on their |
| 19:28.45 | wiml | darn analog electronics! always complicating my plans! :) |
| 19:29.06 | sunrunner20 | lol, it'll be detail speced |
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| 19:36.13 | sunrunner20 | s/POE/PoE |
| 19:46.03 | wiml | ah good, it looks like the design can be a little simpler if you don't need isolation |
| 19:47.43 | sunrunner20 | lol bad idea |
| 19:47.53 | sunrunner20 | but 110 vac is fun :) |
| 19:48.38 | sunrunner20 | one of my friends at school had a power pole in his yard (unfortunate :\) that was messed up and had 110Vac on a line going down its side |
| 19:48.47 | sunrunner20 | he used to poke it |
| 19:48.52 | sunrunner20 | thought it was fun |
| 19:48.59 | wiml | yikes |
| 19:49.00 | sunrunner20 | till I told him, if he gets unlucky it'll kill him |
| 19:49.21 | sunrunner20 | so, I said just stand on your right foot and poke with right arm :P |
| 19:49.38 | wiml | heh |
| 19:49.56 | sunrunner20 | and |
| 19:49.57 | sunrunner20 | lol |
| 19:50.13 | sunrunner20 | people in a forum are bringing up skin effect for an audio quality debate |
| 19:50.48 | wiml | I saw an article recently that someone did a blind A/B test between some zillion-dollar cables and some coathangers |
| 19:50.53 | wiml | no one could tell the difference |
| 19:51.00 | sunrunner20 | yea |
| 19:51.03 | wiml | (they were probably oxygen-free coathangers) |
| 19:51.07 | sunrunner20 | lol |
| 19:51.09 | sunrunner20 | yea right |
| 19:51.18 | sunrunner20 | its the small awg of the coat hangers :P |
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| 20:10.50 | prpplague | interesting, i just got an email for a google recruiter |
| 20:12.25 | CosmicPenguin | eventually, they'll hit everybody |
| 20:13.14 | wiml | unless you put a robots.txt on your resume. |
| 20:14.46 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: i figured it was a generic mailing |
| 20:14.47 | CosmicPenguin | my resume isn't even out there, I don't think |
| 20:15.02 | CosmicPenguin | they troll the mailing lists |
| 20:15.22 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: ahh |
| 20:18.46 | Crofton | they haven't recruited me |
| 20:18.49 | Crofton | they suckj |
| 20:26.23 | CosmicPenguin | do you want me to give them your name? I can do that |
| 20:27.28 | sunrunner20 | prpplague: so, you staying at work or are you going to head home? |
| 20:28.04 | Crofton | no, I prefer to be stalked by employers :) |
| 20:28.27 | sunrunner20 | its icing here at my house |
| 20:28.28 | prpplague | sunrunner20: still at work, too much to do |
| 20:28.39 | CosmicPenguin | well said |
| 20:29.01 | sunrunner20 | dad came home and is remoteing in to work, i guess not everybody has that option :\ |
| 20:29.18 | sunrunner20 | this weather I would probally send my employies home |
| 20:29.25 | CosmicPenguin | you southern states are so cute |
| 20:29.39 | sunrunner20 | CosmicPenguin: theres a diff between snow and ice CosmicPenguin |
| 20:29.58 | CosmicPenguin | you think we don't get ice? |
| 20:30.15 | sunrunner20 | they'll be a 1/4" thick layer of ice on our roads by the end of tonight |
| 20:30.47 | CosmicPenguin | you can drive at full speed if its just snowing |
| 20:30.55 | sunrunner20 | no shit |
| 20:30.59 | sunrunner20 | err, I know |
| 20:31.16 | sunrunner20 | but we are getting sleet and its getign colder every minuet |
| 20:31.57 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: i tend to disagree , when it snows here, the heat of the road melts the snows at first then it turns to ice |
| 20:32.21 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: gets pretty dangerous when it drops below freezing |
| 20:32.46 | sunrunner20 | <PROTECTED> |
| 20:32.47 | sunrunner20 | oops |
| 20:32.57 | sunrunner20 | didn't notice my cat had pawd my space key |
| 20:33.09 | sunrunner20 | vb j |
| 20:33.19 | sunrunner20 | >_< |
| 20:33.28 | sunrunner20 | she just woke up... wants attention |
| 20:33.30 | ce_geek | In the last week here in Maine, I've personally seen 5 cars that have flipped off the interstate due to a sudden change in surface temperature that created black ice. |
| 20:34.17 | sunrunner20 | earlier this week we had an 18 wheeler fall off an overpass and CRUSH a SUV w/ like 4 people in it |
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| 20:34.58 | sunrunner20 | I told my parrents if that happens to me they better be suing somebody |
| 20:35.08 | sunrunner20 | because that is gross neglagence |
| 20:36.54 | sunrunner20 | soo many ways that could have been prevented |
| 20:37.37 | sunrunner20 | city, state, trailer company, cab company, driver, drivers employer, maintence people |
| 20:37.43 | chouimat|work | sunrunner20: who you sue? the driver? the guy who build the overpass? the architect and engineers? the gov ? |
| 20:38.05 | sunrunner20 | most likely the drivers employer |
| 20:38.14 | sunrunner20 | former, driver died too |
| 20:38.48 | sunrunner20 | if the edge of the over pass failed, whoever commissioned the building of the overpass |
| 20:39.15 | sunrunner20 | because they allowed the enginneres to underdesign the overpass |
| 20:39.40 | chouimat|work | sunrunner20: me I would sue the maker of the SUV because it not secure enough </sarcasm> |
| 20:39.56 | sunrunner20 | that is ludacrese |
| 20:40.16 | chouimat|work | like 90% of all lawsuit |
| 20:40.18 | sunrunner20 | however, it takes some stupidity for a vehecial to fall off an overpass |
| 20:40.19 | CosmicPenguin | Also, the heirs of Henry Ford for mass producing cars in the first place |
| 20:40.26 | sunrunner20 | wow |
| 20:40.39 | sunrunner20 | you people are taking this the wrong side |
| 20:40.54 | Crofton | sue the guy with the deepest pockets |
| 20:40.57 | chouimat|work | sunrunner20: hehe |
| 20:41.08 | sunrunner20 | I understand that most lawsuits are bs |
| 20:41.25 | sunrunner20 | but do you really think that this was an accident that coulden't be prevented? |
| 20:41.51 | sunrunner20 | because chances are either the driver fell asleep |
| 20:42.00 | sunrunner20 | or he got blown over |
| 20:42.09 | sunrunner20 | or drove too fast and fliped |
| 20:43.00 | sunrunner20 | depending on who was at fault, would depend on how much I would sue |
| 20:43.32 | sunrunner20 | can't hold the employer entirely responsible to a driver breaking rules |
| 20:44.05 | sunrunner20 | chouimat|work: the whole point of my law suit would be to keep this from hapening again |
| 20:44.14 | sunrunner20 | or try |
| 20:44.20 | sunrunner20 | not a get rich scheme |
| 20:44.24 | CosmicPenguin | Its a stretch to say that any country that spells it 'civilised' is in fact, civilized |
| 20:44.39 | sunrunner20 | :p screw spelling ^_^ |
| 20:44.49 | chouimat|work | CosmicPenguin: :)( |
| 20:45.11 | sunrunner20 | there should be systems in place to keep this from hapening |
| 20:45.41 | sunrunner20 | even if they aren't active/reacitve systems but part of the design |
| 20:46.04 | sunrunner20 | (ie: active weight distrubution sensors vs saying screw it and having a wider wheel base) |
| 20:46.23 | RobotGuy | Welcome to the real world - Nothing is the way is should be or could be. |
| 20:46.37 | chouimat|work | sunrunner20: it's an accident caused by human stupidity nothing will stop it to ever happens again ... well there is a solution but i'm not for killing more than 6 billions people :) |
| 20:46.49 | chouimat|work | it's --> if |
| 20:46.50 | sunrunner20 | :p |
| 20:46.57 | SpeedEvil | chouimat|work: man with red flag walking in front of vehicle. |
| 20:47.04 | SpeedEvil | chouimat|work: it's worked in the past! |
| 20:47.08 | chouimat|work | hehe |
| 20:48.31 | sunrunner20 | and chances are I would take the money and use it to do something about the issue |
| 20:48.49 | sunrunner20 | maby not even sue for cash |
| 20:49.06 | sunrunner20 | sue for a court order to get to the issue and fix it |
| 20:49.22 | RobotGuy | You have to hit the pocket books, or nobody will notice or care. |
| 20:49.34 | sunrunner20 | chances are that would |
| 20:49.57 | sunrunner20 | it would prevent, say the trailer m aker, from manufactureing any mroe trailer untill they fixed the issue |
| 20:50.51 | sunrunner20 | ohhh |
| 20:50.55 | sunrunner20 | hugeass snow flakes now |
| 20:51.40 | sunrunner20 | heard about the lady sueing bestbuy for $52 million? |
| 20:51.47 | chouimat|work | CosmicPenguin: about civilised/civilized both spelling are accepted here :) |
| 20:52.02 | CosmicPenguin | YOu should look into fixing that |
| 20:52.12 | chouimat|work | CosmicPenguin: nah ... |
| 20:52.29 | chouimat|work | CosmicPenguin: it's easier for me to use -sed ... closer to french :) |
| 20:53.03 | sunrunner20 | bestbuy lost her laptop and then had the balls to ofer her a best buy gift certificat that was worth less than the physical laptop |
| 20:56.29 | sunrunner20 | >_< |
| 20:56.59 | sunrunner20 | now, if she was sueing because here data was gone when she got it back... thats not really an option and is stupid |
| 20:57.09 | sunrunner20 | but the fact that she has no idea who has her information |
| 20:57.17 | sunrunner20 | including tax records etc |
| 20:57.52 | sunrunner20 | I think most of us here would sue for that, esp after they offered us a gift certificate worth less than the oritional value |
| 20:57.56 | sunrunner20 | *origional |
| 21:02.45 | SpeedEvil | 52 million is valid - |
| 21:02.58 | SpeedEvil | If bestbuy also has tortured and cut off most of her limbs. |
| 21:06.13 | sunrunner20 | well, 52 million is going ot make her lose the suit |
| 21:06.23 | sunrunner20 | I think I would cap out at 1 or two |
| 21:06.35 | sunrunner20 | if they got really bitch at me i would go higher |
| 21:07.05 | sunrunner20 | because a company has no right to be insulting me when they are the ones who are screwing things up |
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| 21:32.28 | SpeedEvil | Bullshit. |
| 21:32.57 | SpeedEvil | I'm quite willing for anyone at all to insult me for several hours, however they like, for $100K |
| 21:43.55 | _trine | I'll insult you for several hours but how and when will you pay me the $100k |
| 21:45.14 | _trine | my wife can give me references if required |
| 21:45.40 | chouimat|work | lol |
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| 22:11.37 | Dr{Afk} | sorry but that conversation reminded me of this old skit : c ) |
| 22:11.39 | Dr{Afk} | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k3HaRFBSq9k |
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