IRC log for #edev on 20080316

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03:36.29*** topic/#edev is a channel for the discussion of hacking small consumer electronic devices, mostly ARM based; Hammer Development boards now available at http://www.tincantools.com/
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18:44.46RobotGuyDoes anyone know what requires zlib?
18:46.45agaffneythat's a very...open question :P
18:46.52agaffney*many* things require zlib
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18:47.43RobotGuyIn buildroot
18:48.42RobotGuyWhich packages in buildroot require zlib?
18:50.59agaffneythat's a lot more specific :P
18:51.14agaffneyyou could probably find out with a quick grep through the Makefiles
18:52.02RobotGuyI'm not sure how to do that in one fell swoop.
18:52.12RobotGuyProbably need to use xargs?
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18:53.47agaffneyfind, ftw
18:54.09agaffneyfind -name Makefile -exec grep -H zlib {} \;
19:11.10RobotGuyAhhh, OK.  I had not thought of that.
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19:29.37RobotGuyThat does not really help me.  I just need to know which packages also need zlib.
19:35.42WildPikachuman ... this is weird
19:35.50WildPikachumy     id   under buildroot works
19:35.50WildPikachubut
19:35.54RobotGuyis not having a good month
19:35.55WildPikachu<PROTECTED>
19:36.18WildPikachuRobotGuy, me neither  :(
19:36.20RobotGuyI hac to go to the ER twice this week in an ambulance.
19:36.27RobotGuys/hac/had/
19:36.28WildPikachuhectic man
19:37.54WildPikachuRobotGuy, u ok man?
19:38.02RobotGuyNot really.
19:38.16WildPikachu:(
19:38.28WildPikachuhooks up some jumpers to RobotGuy 's arms
19:38.42RobotGuyThanks.  I wish that would work.
19:39.04SpeedEvilHospital visits are rarely fun.
19:39.05WildPikachupulls out his pliers and soldering iron ... this will!
19:39.54SpeedEvilhad an odd episode a few years back with a hole in my bronchial system somewhere causing me to inflate.
19:40.08SpeedEvilFace puffed up like the michelin man.
19:40.37WildPikachufights buildroot
19:40.52RobotGuySpeedEvil: Are you alright now from that?
19:40.56SpeedEvilYeah.
19:41.11RobotGuyI am losing hearing in my left ear. :(
19:41.14SpeedEvilWell - sort of. I still get the occasional crackle, when I cough hard.
19:41.21SpeedEvilDamn.
19:41.49RobotGuyPlus I have bad balance problems, probably because of an inner ear problem causing my hearing loss.
19:42.01RobotGuyis a wreck
19:42.13SpeedEvilI lost a bit due to ear infection, some of it came back.
19:42.28RobotGuyI almost can not hear any mid-range now.
19:42.45RobotGuy(in my left ear)
19:42.58SpeedEvilInfection, or other cause?
19:43.20RobotGuyUnsure at this time.  Still trying to find out.  Had an MRI on my left year Wednesday.
19:43.42SpeedEvilHope it's reversable.
19:44.00SpeedEvilI'm still about 10dB down with tinitus in the right.
19:44.02RobotGuyMe too!  I have no positional hearing now - can't tell where something is by hearing.
19:45.11WildPikachusomething is horribly wrong with my buildroot
19:45.22RobotGuyWildPikachu: What is the problem you have?
19:45.27RobotGuyis this for Hammer?
19:45.29WildPikachuI get ...         ls testfile               ls: testfile: ccess
19:45.35WildPikachulike its corrupt
19:45.39WildPikachuthen ...
19:45.46WildPikachuif i run   id    i get the right result
19:45.46WildPikachubut
19:45.47RobotGuyWildPikachu: Are you using buildroot for Hammer?
19:45.49WildPikachuid -u    hangs
19:45.59WildPikachusvn checkout of buildroot
19:46.15RobotGuyOh, OK.
19:46.17WildPikachubuildroot.uclibc.org  afaik
19:46.20RobotGuyI have been tinkering with that.
19:46.35WildPikachuwell, for one is horribly broken ..  :(
19:46.44WildPikachubut i'm not going to try re-invent the wheel
19:46.57RobotGuyI just updated to SVN 21341
19:47.44WildPikachuthats what i'm trying with
19:48.01WildPikachuif i enable optimizations, my kernel panics on boot in the sys_fs code somewhere
19:48.10WildPikachuso i got past that by disabling optimizations
19:48.22WildPikachumy problem now is this hanging and corruption
19:48.43WildPikachustrace gives no indication of where its hanging
19:52.50RobotGuyAre you building for Hammer?
19:53.05WildPikachunope  :)
19:53.23RobotGuyWhat MCU?
19:53.36WildPikachu(this was the only channel I found which was pointed to by #uclibc for buildroot help)
19:54.45RobotGuyThe fellow who really knows a lot about buildroot is only here weekdays - prpplague
19:55.21RobotGuyI only know buildroot with respect to the Hammer Board (ARM9/Samsung S3C24xx).
19:56.05RobotGuyWildPikachu: What board are you working with?
19:56.16WildPikachux86 pc  ;)
19:56.33WildPikachutrying to build a recovery initramfs
19:56.49RobotGuyAhhhh, OK. I have not tried doing anything for the x86, even though I have two x86 PCs.
19:58.44RobotGuyI have patched the svn 21341 buildroot with the Hammer stuff and am building a toolchain now.
20:01.04WildPikachunot even my rm is working ....
20:01.26WildPikachuvery weird
20:01.30RobotGuyYou have something wrong on your system then.
20:02.53WildPikachuhave no clue what though
20:04.16RobotGuyYou can not rm files?
20:04.36RobotGuyYou are using Linux, right?
20:17.59WildPikachuyea
20:18.04WildPikachuit hangs
20:18.15WildPikachuvery weird
20:21.31RobotGuyWhich distro are you running?
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20:32.15RobotGuywaves at landley
20:32.47landleywaves at RobotGuy.
20:33.09RobotGuywants to reboot and restart this year
20:33.16landleyWhat about it?
20:33.26RobotGuyEverything mostly
20:33.26landleyBad things happened, I take it?
20:33.36RobotGuyYeah, more bad than good I think so far,
20:34.51RobotGuylandley: I have a question for you and I am pretty sure you know how to do this..
20:36.53RobotGuyI want to do a single software build, then split the project root into two parts - one for initrd consisting of everything NOT in /usr and the other with everything in /usr.
20:38.06RobotGuyHow can I do that?
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20:46.53landley_Argh.
20:47.01landley_Not the world's happiest coffee shop connection.
20:47.05landley_RobotGuy: what was your question?
20:47.38RobotGuylandley: Did you read above?
20:55.43landley_Nope.
20:55.52landley_It decided to log me out, here at the coffee shop. :(
20:56.00RobotGuyOK, nevermindnthen.
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20:56.06landleyWhat was the question?
20:56.09landleyOr did somebody else answer it?
20:56.26RobotGuyNo.
20:57.25RobotGuylandley: I want to do a single software build, then split the project root into two parts - one for initrd consisting of everything NOT in /usr and the other with everything in /usr.
20:57.36RobotGuylandley: How can I do that?
20:58.31landleyCopy the files?
20:58.36landleyI'm a little unclear on what you're asking.
20:58.47RobotGuyOK, nevermind then.
20:58.48landleyPresumably, your initrd will need enough tools to mount /usr.
20:59.05landleyBut those tools shouldn't live in /usr, they should live in /bin or /sbin, correct?
20:59.28landleyCould you explain why doing this is non-obvious for you?
20:59.34landleyI don't understand the problem you're facing...
20:59.57RobotGuyI can't seem to communicate well, so I'm just gonna leave for now.  Bye
21:00.03landleySorry...
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23:19.09MirellYay, I has a couch.
23:19.48k0phi all
23:19.50k0pwhat is ftdi most popular? I need a serial to usb adapter..

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