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| 01:25.04 | T0mW`gone | prpplague: try buzzing out the grounds on the board, it is simple to miss not having a ground supply vs. missing a +voltage supply. |
| 01:26.14 | prpplague | T0mW not really my job, hehe, thats our high paid EE's job, hehe |
| 01:26.32 | T0mW | prpplague: yeah, still fighting with that guy, eh? |
| 01:26.35 | prpplague | T0mW but it really does sound like a missing ground |
| 01:26.38 | prpplague | T0mW yea |
| 01:26.49 | ds2 | is he breaking a sweat yet? ;) |
| 01:27.23 | prpplague | i guess he's always been in a cubical by himself designing based on datasheets |
| 01:27.34 | prpplague | its driving me totally nuts |
| 01:27.46 | T0mW | I know that I've done that myself. In EagleCAD you have to "invoke" the device to get the "requested" pieces like the supply pins. Forgot to do that a couple of times. |
| 01:28.18 | prpplague | T0mW well the thing is this was suppose to be a bug fix rev |
| 01:28.34 | T0mW | prpplague: It worked! now you have bugs to fix! |
| 01:28.35 | prpplague | T0mW but this one is turning out worse than the first one |
| 01:28.45 | prpplague | T0mW indeed |
| 01:29.26 | T0mW | well, the first of the house inspections happens tomorrow: water + termite. |
| 01:29.50 | T0mW | wednesday + thursday is the septic testing. |
| 01:30.01 | prpplague | T0mW when is the "dead hookers burried in the cellar" inspection? |
| 01:30.03 | ds2 | how do you test a septic system? |
| 01:30.04 | T0mW | 14 days until closing |
| 01:30.48 | prpplague | ds2 not going there |
| 01:30.50 | T0mW | ds2: pump 400..600 gallons of water into the sandmound on day #1, come back the second day and do it again. Then look for looks / overflow. |
| 01:31.05 | T0mW | s/looks/leaks |
| 01:31.32 | prpplague | or bodies rising to the surface |
| 01:31.35 | ds2 | is that all... so it is checking if the pipes are clogged |
| 01:31.47 | T0mW | prpplague: forensic science is so good that I'm sure that they can date the bodies and prove I wasn't there. :D |
| 01:31.59 | ds2 | I was thinking you do a bacteria culture and chemeical analysis for the right enzymes |
| 01:32.13 | prpplague | T0mW what about the ones you are leaving at your old place? hehe |
| 01:32.20 | T0mW | ds2: naw, you can always add them |
| 01:32.29 | T0mW | prpplague: ssssh |
| 01:32.33 | prpplague | hehe |
| 01:32.36 | ds2 | T0mW: where is this? |
| 01:32.48 | prpplague | has a warped since of humor |
| 01:32.50 | T0mW | ds2: Albrightsville, PA |
| 01:32.50 | ds2 | as in state/city |
| 01:32.58 | ds2 | Hmmm |
| 01:33.03 | prpplague | damm spell checking |
| 01:33.04 | ds2 | does the system work in the winter? ;) |
| 01:33.07 | prpplague | s/since/sense |
| 01:33.43 | T0mW | ds2: let's hope so, it would be cold heading out in the morning to use the port-a-john! |
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| 01:34.20 | prpplague | T0mW gonna be much easier getting girls to come to house now that you own one |
| 01:34.26 | ds2 | hehe so there is plumbing? not an outhouse with the classic moon window? ;) |
| 01:34.36 | T0mW | prpplague: and, I have mirrors on the ceiling |
| 01:35.20 | T0mW | ds2: amazing, indoor plumbing in Pennsyltuckey |
| 01:35.23 | prpplague | T0mW "no problem honey, just rake the electronics parts of your side of the bed, just be carefull when you get up, you don't want a 40-pin dip in the bottom of your foot" |
| 01:35.58 | T0mW | foot, right, I was going to use another word (three letters, begins with 'a') |
| 01:35.59 | ds2 | "WATCH OUT FOR THAT METER PROBE!" |
| 01:36.09 | prpplague | ds2 hehe |
| 01:36.16 | wmat | ouch |
| 01:36.18 | T0mW | no no no |
| 01:36.31 | T0mW | I have three bedrooms, one will be the workshop |
| 01:37.11 | T0mW | I will actually have a room in my house that I can entertain friends without them having to stare at my computers + workbench. |
| 01:37.50 | ds2 | so your designated bedroom will be immaculate since all sleeping will be done in the workshop? ;) |
| 01:38.05 | T0mW | I'm thinking that the larger of the two bedrooms will be the workshop. I should be realistic, the workshop always seems to grow. |
| 01:38.13 | T0mW | heh |
| 01:41.01 | prpplague | T0mW hehe |
| 01:41.38 | prpplague | goes to drink beer and watch a movie |
| 01:47.45 | Crofton | is drinking beer in Toronto |
| 01:49.14 | chouimat|Zzzz | is going to sleep ... soon |
| 01:59.08 | prpplague | curses Crofton with a wife and 4 kids along with a mortgage so he can't travel anymore |
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| 02:02.26 | wmat | drinks beer 1 hour west of Toronto |
| 02:02.36 | g1powermac_PB | prpplague: hah |
| 02:04.19 | Crofton | hamilton? |
| 02:04.31 | Crofton | lived in Dundas when he was small |
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| 02:05.41 | kergoth | hey all |
| 02:06.38 | Crofton | kergoth, ! |
| 02:06.59 | wmat | Crofton: Waterloo |
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| 02:07.20 | Crofton | ah |
| 02:07.27 | Crofton | that is sort of north of the lake? |
| 02:07.38 | Crofton | I left when I was 5 |
| 02:07.49 | wmat | ah |
| 02:16.27 | prpplague | holy freakin cow |
| 02:16.33 | prpplague | kergoth greetings |
| 02:18.25 | prpplague | kergoth whats cookin? |
| 02:19.15 | prpplague | its been like a tuxscreen reunion lately |
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| 02:21.34 | solar | thats a face I've not seen in a while |
| 02:21.40 | solar | prpplague: http://dev.gentoo.org/~solar/embedded/tct/linux-2.6.22-tct-leds.patch |
| 02:26.57 | prpplague | solar need to change it from flyswatter to carrier |
| 02:27.08 | prpplague | solar flyswatter is the jtag board |
| 02:27.39 | solar | the defines in the tct patch were funky for mtd so I moved that around a bit. |
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| 02:35.36 | solar | patch updated |
| 02:38.28 | prpplague | jokes with solar |
| 02:38.46 | prpplague | solar if that patch was in a nudie bar, i'd pay for a table dance |
| 02:38.51 | prpplague | solar might fine |
| 02:39.48 | prpplague | solar the only item i've got planned is to added a kconfig option for the second serial port |
| 02:40.17 | prpplague | solar have something that depends on having the hammer config option under the s3c2410 uart config |
| 02:42.37 | prpplague | solar http://git.kernel.org/?p=linux/kernel/git/torvalds/linux-2.6.git;a=blob;f=drivers/serial/Kconfig;h=9bc42763623c8de5cf5d48eef56f0f018568fee2;hb=HEAD |
| 02:42.44 | prpplague | solar around line 451 |
| 02:42.59 | prpplague | solar i.e. CONFIG_S3C2410_HAMMER_UART2 |
| 02:43.32 | prpplague | solar i.e. CONFIG_SERIAL_S3C2410_HAMMER_UART2 |
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| 03:06.51 | solar | sure I'll add that in right quick. But without those defines it's kinda meaningless |
| 03:08.19 | prpplague | solar indeed |
| 03:08.37 | prpplague | solar i was just making an observation thats where i'm headed |
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| 03:25.56 | solar | I don't see how these addrs translate into addrs I can write to with devmem. It's a userland program doing a bunch of translations of virt addrs |
| 03:27.08 | prpplague | solar which addr's are you refering to? |
| 03:27.47 | prpplague | solar you talking about accessing the LED's from the bootloader? |
| 03:28.14 | solar | well for example. Say I'm trying to flip a led on based on whats in ledblink.c |
| 03:29.03 | solar | so I try devmem at GPIOF_CON & ~MAP_MASK |
| 03:29.51 | solar | prpplague: End goal is to turn on the buzzer via openocd at the end of flashing |
| 03:30.15 | prpplague | solar the buzze or the led? |
| 03:30.25 | solar | really the buzzer |
| 03:31.03 | prpplague | solar ahh ok but you are starting with the led as practice? |
| 03:31.30 | solar | yeah. |
| 03:31.44 | solar | cuz it's an addr I thought i could find and poke at with devmem |
| 03:32.59 | prpplague | solar ok, so for example the gpio control register is 0x56000050 , you'll need to set the first two bits to 0x01 so that it is an output |
| 03:33.19 | prpplague | solar you'll need to read the default for 0x56000050 with the mdw command |
| 03:33.25 | prpplague | solar mdw 0x56000050 |
| 03:33.41 | prpplague | solar then modify the value for 0x01 |
| 03:33.57 | prpplague | solar then use the the mww command to write a new value back |
| 03:35.07 | prpplague | solar once you have the control set for an output, you can then look at the data register |
| 03:35.17 | prpplague | solar which is at 0x56000054 |
| 03:35.27 | solar | eee |
| 03:35.44 | prpplague | solar understanding embedded linux at the register level is one of the hardest items to get a hold of |
| 03:36.00 | prpplague | (or atleast imho) |
| 03:37.00 | solar | any chance you have a 4-5 liner worked out in your head that I could append to the .ocd file do ya right before the shutdown ? |
| 03:37.45 | prpplague | hehe, indeed |
| 03:38.03 | ds2 | is 0x56... the physical address? |
| 03:38.08 | prpplague | yea |
| 03:38.22 | solar | unless this is it http://rafb.net/p/DZQuYa87.txt |
| 03:38.26 | prpplague | ds2 you can check he s3c2410 datasheet for the actual bits |
| 03:38.36 | ds2 | *nod* |
| 03:38.58 | prpplague | solar one sec |
| 03:41.14 | prpplague | solar http://www.pastebin.ca/1048709 |
| 03:41.35 | prpplague | solar the first item is to set the gpio as an output |
| 03:42.04 | prpplague | solar then the additional ones at 54 are to set the bit on/off |
| 03:42.49 | prpplague | solar i'll tweak something up in the morning and post it on the wiki |
| 03:45.33 | solar | testing :) |
| 03:56.25 | prpplague | ++beer;+++beer;++beer; if (beer> BEER_MAX) { echo 1 > /proc/dave/suspend } |
| 03:57.01 | prpplague | heads to bed |
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| 04:04.23 | solar | enjoy |
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| 07:26.32 | [AD]Turbo | hola |
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| 10:28.46 | T0mW | prpplague: good morning |
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| 13:05.59 | g1powermac_PB | morning prpplague |
| 13:15.05 | prpplague | heads to works bbiab |
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| 13:38.03 | g1powermac_PB | wb prpplague :-) |
| 13:38.11 | prpplague | gee thanks |
| 13:38.36 | dbtid | prpplague: you're in #timesys-alumni; i take it that means you worked there. did you know a John Whitney? |
| 13:39.36 | prpplague | dbtid: hehe, actually no i never worked there, i just like to keep an ear out for embedded market gossip |
| 13:39.43 | dbtid | i see |
| 13:39.51 | prpplague | dbtid: but i do recal the name john whitney from somewhere |
| 13:40.03 | dbtid | he was on some linux mailing lists at one time |
| 13:40.09 | dbtid | i used to work with him, a while back |
| 13:40.47 | prpplague | ahh ok |
| 13:40.54 | dbtid | i knew he'd gone to timesys |
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| 13:40.59 | dbtid | but i can't find him now |
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| 13:46.19 | dbtid | root |
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| 14:04.41 | sjhill | dbtid: John left TimeSys about 4 years ago |
| 14:06.29 | prpplague | solar: http://www.elinux.org/Hammer_Board_Software_System |
| 14:06.37 | prpplague | solar: i added a script called blink.ocd |
| 14:06.53 | sjhill | dbtid: i think he went to SBC |
| 14:07.13 | prpplague | sjhill: done anything with the nail board yet? |
| 14:07.23 | sjhill | prpplague: no |
| 14:07.38 | sjhill | prpplague: you know our entire city was wiped out with the floods, right? |
| 14:07.39 | prpplague | hehe |
| 14:07.44 | sjhill | i live in Iowa |
| 14:07.54 | prpplague | sjhill: oh shoot, didn't put 2+2 together |
| 14:08.14 | prpplague | sjhill: you loose anything? i.e. house/car ? |
| 14:08.24 | sjhill | two rooms downstairs |
| 14:08.32 | sjhill | we had to rip everything out |
| 14:08.52 | sjhill | i've been sealing, scraping, wirebrushing, etc. |
| 14:09.16 | sjhill | we live in Springville which is 10 miles outside Cedar Rapids, but i work in Cedar Rapids and we have family and friends who have lost everything |
| 14:09.24 | sjhill | so, we've been busy |
| 14:10.30 | chouimat|work | ouch |
| 14:14.16 | prpplague | sjhill: oh man, sorry to hear that |
| 14:14.32 | prpplague | sjhill: i wonder if the insurance companies are going to be a problem |
| 14:14.51 | sjhill | yes |
| 14:15.06 | prpplague | sjhill: i assume from the news i saw that this is totally unheard of, so i'd be willing to bet you guys don't have flood insurance |
| 14:15.11 | sjhill | because a lot of the places could not get flood insurance because they weren't in a flood plain |
| 14:15.19 | sjhill | although that will change for the future |
| 14:15.33 | sjhill | we're fine |
| 14:15.49 | sjhill | but the people downtown will have some battles with insurance to be sure |
| 14:15.57 | prpplague | lovely |
| 14:16.13 | prpplague | nothing like a good natural disaster on top of economic woes |
| 14:16.45 | prpplague | cbrake: you get your replacement hammer module? |
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| 14:17.18 | cbrake | prpplague: not yet |
| 14:17.32 | prpplague | cbrake: hmm, should have had it by now |
| 14:17.40 | prpplague | cbrake: let me check on it and get a tracking number |
| 14:19.32 | cbrake | prpplague: ok thanks |
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| 15:49.21 | prpplague | hmm, looks like we might have bad assembly on the boards |
| 15:50.16 | SpeedEvil | You do that in-house2~? |
| 15:53.23 | dbtid | sjhill: thanks. |
| 15:53.26 | dbtid | that's interesting |
| 16:02.45 | kergoth | morning |
| 16:09.23 | prpplague | kergoth: greetings |
| 16:09.49 | prpplague | SpeedEvil: no these were pre-production so we had them quick turned from a board house |
| 16:09.59 | kergoth | hey prpplague, how's it going? |
| 16:10.13 | prpplague | kergoth: not too bad |
| 16:10.16 | prpplague | kergoth: you? |
| 16:10.28 | kergoth | trying to wake up, hate my job.. but otherwise not bad |
| 16:10.43 | kergoth | so pretty much the usual. |
| 16:10.44 | prpplague | kergoth: hehe, join the club |
| 16:11.10 | CosmicPenguin | ~mornings |
| 16:11.11 | purl | Mornings MUST be destroyed! (see also http://www.destroymornings.com/) |
| 16:11.40 | kergoth | dfarnsworth: hey.. didnt know you hung around here |
| 16:11.58 | kergoth | hey CP. what are you up to nowadays? |
| 16:12.51 | CosmicPenguin | The usual, making x86s do silly things |
| 16:12.58 | kergoth | heh |
| 16:13.06 | CosmicPenguin | I've been hacking a great deal on coreboot recently |
| 16:13.10 | CosmicPenguin | or more specifically, payloads for coreboot |
| 16:13.23 | kergoth | most of my work is x86 nowadays too... someday i'll finish reading the intel x86 architecture manual so i actually know what i'm doing |
| 16:13.35 | kergoth | coreboot? |
| 16:13.51 | CosmicPenguin | the project formally known as LinuxBIOS |
| 16:13.57 | kergoth | ahh |
| 16:14.54 | kergoth | still working for AMD? |
| 16:15.39 | dfarnsworth | Hi kergoth, yeah, but I'm just a lurker. :) |
| 16:15.52 | kergoth | :) |
| 16:15.58 | CosmicPenguin | kergoth: yep |
| 16:24.07 | chouimat|work | hi kergoth |
| 16:24.25 | kergoth | hey |
| 16:43.26 | solar | prpplague: thanks.. Any idea what it is for the buzzer? vs 0x56000054 |
| 16:44.03 | prpplague | solar: the buzzer is a little more complicated |
| 16:44.25 | solar | ahh bummer. |
| 16:44.36 | prpplague | solar: you have to turn on the pwm, set some clock pre-scalers and then set some length and compare registers |
| 16:45.01 | prpplague | solar: i'm working on some wiki stuff at the momemt, as i'm dead in the water over these crappy boards |
| 16:45.13 | prpplague | solar: give me a little bit and i'll post one for the buzzer |
| 16:45.21 | solar | well either way the example worked for turning on/off the hammers led via openocd. |
| 16:45.37 | solar | that first mmw you said was a mdw yesterday I thought however |
| 16:46.10 | prpplague | solar: yea, its always a good idea to check the value before changing it |
| 16:46.18 | prpplague | solar: to make sure it's still set to the default |
| 16:46.37 | prpplague | solar: no biggy |
| 16:49.00 | solar | sadly the kernel needed NLS code pages and a slew of other things to be able to mount a standard vanilla non formatted SDcard via a usb reader |
| 16:52.22 | prpplague | solar: yea, i've noticed that |
| 16:52.30 | prpplague | solar: mainly for the vfat support iirc |
| 16:52.37 | prpplague | solar: the ext2 support doesn't need it |
| 16:56.45 | solar | double bummer. I just did a eabi test where I copied over a static busybox compiled with a armv4tl-softfloat-linux-gnueabi toolchain to the SD and running it "Illegal instruction" (kernel is EABI+OABI Compat) with the kernel being compiled with the armv4tl-softfloat-linux-gnueabi-gcc |
| 16:59.55 | prpplague | thats interesting |
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| 18:07.49 | ds2 | bah for x86, just work Microsoft style -- start farming monkeys and buy lots of keyboards ;) |
| 18:11.41 | CosmicPenguin | But doesn't everybody say that ARM assembly is much easier? |
| 18:11.52 | CosmicPenguin | so it would follow that the monkeys would be able to pick up ARM quicker |
| 18:12.01 | ds2 | =) |
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| 20:54.17 | T0mW | sneaks |
| 20:54.20 | T0mW | sneaks by |
| 20:54.49 | T0mW | gets more coffee and sneaks back to his computer |
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| 21:26.21 | solar | Anybody ever played with this S3C2410 based device? http://tinyurl.com/5lu3kt |
| 21:30.20 | T0mW | solar: no, but I am playing with this: http://www.embedinfo.com/english/Product/mini2410.asp |
| 21:35.06 | solar | T0mW: 2M flash.. Thats a bit tight on space for firmware. |
| 21:35.41 | T0mW | solar: gets the kernel running, I boot off the SD card |
| 21:37.05 | T0mW | solar: I've not found that large amounts of Flash worthwhile. Seems that you always needd more, so that is why I focus on the SD card. |
| 21:38.09 | solar | T0mW: I don't need alot of flash either. But it's hard to get/make a functional busybox+kernel in 2M |
| 21:39.28 | ds2 | kernel + sash |
| 21:39.30 | ds2 | ;) |
| 21:39.57 | solar | needs fdisk,udhcp and friends. |
| 21:40.10 | ds2 | bah luxury items! |
| 21:41.17 | g1powermac | bah, the kernel is a luxury item! run your software directly on the bare hardware! :-) |
| 21:41.21 | solar | wishes linux handles USB storage devices being removed while in use as well as sadly WM5 |
| 21:42.37 | solar | anybody know if the kernel auto mounter functionality will/can remove a mount if the storage device is unplugged? |
| 21:42.37 | ds2 | solar: what does it currently do? |
| 21:42.51 | ds2 | ah mounts getting stuck |
| 21:42.59 | ds2 | you don't have to mount it |
| 21:44.03 | ds2 | are you using it for data or code? |
| 21:44.46 | solar | ds2: something like this. http://rafb.net/p/0Rr0rJ21.html |
| 21:45.23 | ds2 | solar: what are you using it for? |
| 21:46.29 | solar | ds2: nothing really. prpplague sent me a Nail. So I'm trying to make it all spiffy like. Confirm the hardware works. And generally make the device usable. |
| 21:47.01 | ds2 | in that case, don't mount it |
| 21:47.03 | solar | at the moment however. Just some external storage |
| 21:47.24 | ds2 | it'll side step the problem |
| 21:47.35 | solar | well yeah |
| 21:47.35 | ds2 | no, not being sarcastic either |
| 21:47.48 | ds2 | access it via mtools and link a variant of that into your code |
| 21:48.48 | solar | does that just open the device seeks to an offset and then closes the device? |
| 21:48.50 | adyer | solar: get robotguy to make a solenoid based locking mechanism, so the storage can't be removed without an unmount :-) |
| 21:48.59 | ds2 | pretty much |
| 21:49.04 | ds2 | implements FAT in userspace |
| 21:49.21 | ds2 | gets a bit tricky if you have multiaccess but for basic datastorage, it works |
| 21:49.22 | g1powermac | adyer, hah |
| 21:49.27 | solar | neat. But I can picture ppl using all types of formats. |
| 21:49.33 | g1powermac | wonders where RobotGuy has been |
| 21:49.47 | ds2 | embedded folks do strange things to avoid problems |
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| 21:49.57 | g1powermac | speaking of the devil. . . |
| 21:50.08 | adyer | lol - his ears are burning :-) |
| 21:50.08 | solar | fighting with netplug as well. When events happen I think it should try to get/refresh dhcp leases. |
| 21:50.12 | prpplague | this is the weirdiest thing i've ever seen, a standard open() with a write() only seems to work when called from main() |
| 21:50.22 | g1powermac | RobotGuy, I was just wondering where you've been, then you show up ;-) |
| 21:50.36 | ds2 | prpplague: dlopen tricks? |
| 21:50.53 | ds2 | or maybe LD_PRELOAD games? |
| 21:51.40 | solar | __hidden symbols? |
| 21:51.58 | RobotGuy | g1powermac: I am not particularly well right now, so haven't been online much. |
| 21:52.12 | g1powermac | RobotGuy, ouch, sorry to hear that |
| 21:52.24 | solar | bummer |
| 21:53.24 | RobotGuy | I just got a Nail Board yesterday and haven't even opened it yet. |
| 21:53.25 | g1powermac | RobotGuy, sadly I haven't been in the best of health myself again, especially a few days ago |
| 21:54.14 | g1powermac | had to go to the docs again for another round of bloodwork, I must have had at least 15 vials of blood drawn out of me during this past month |
| 21:54.23 | RobotGuy | My problems affect my balance and concentration, so I haven't done much that requires a lot of thought lately. |
| 21:55.03 | solar | RobotGuy: Good.. When you return to your healthy state.. I volunteer you to test something. |
| 21:55.26 | g1powermac | hmm, concentration and balance issues. . .got some of that myself |
| 21:56.13 | RobotGuy | solar: Oh? Hmmmmmmm, when you offer such things, I must know.. I don't know when I can though, at this point - going to ear/nose/throat doctor and neurologist the first week of next month. |
| 21:56.15 | g1powermac | RobotGuy, though at least I got a possible diagnosis this round |
| 21:56.56 | RobotGuy | g1powermac: That is good! I've been fighting bad balance issues since last October, off and on, mostly on right now. :( |
| 21:57.09 | g1powermac | RobotGuy, and I'm the one who brought it up to my doc's attention. . .now just waiting for bloodwork to come back |
| 21:57.41 | RobotGuy | solar: What do you have in mind? |
| 21:57.51 | RobotGuy | can't help being curious |
| 21:58.14 | g1powermac | RobotGuy, I've suffered with IBS like symptoms since from when I can remember, and I always thought it was just IBS |
| 21:58.59 | RobotGuy | I'm probably not going to be on here too long - my head is hurting from other stuff. |
| 21:59.02 | g1powermac | RobotGuy, however, after changing my diet to a vegetarian and now vegan diet for the past year, I haven't had a single IBS issue, till this past week |
| 21:59.35 | RobotGuy | g1powermac: That's good for you. I hope my solution is as simple. |
| 21:59.57 | g1powermac | that prompted me to do some major research into digestive disorders and Celiac's disease came up |
| 22:00.05 | g1powermac | which fits many of the symptoms I have |
| 22:00.43 | RobotGuy | Man, I really want to open that Nail Board box, but I know what that would lead to. |
| 22:00.58 | g1powermac | which is a fairly easy thing to treat, just don't eat anything with gluten in it, which includes all wheat products |
| 22:01.09 | g1powermac | though that really does limit my diet even further |
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| 22:02.21 | RobotGuy | What's a diet? |
| 22:02.29 | RobotGuy | Just kidding |
| 22:03.53 | RobotGuy | There are so many thing I really want to be doing right now. More stuff with Hammer and W.A.L.T.E.R., new Nail Board. -sigh- |
| 22:04.53 | prpplague | this is the darnest thing i've ever seen |
| 22:04.57 | prpplague | this _should work |
| 22:04.57 | RobotGuy | I still want to get Gentoo Embedded all setup and such for Hammer too. |
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| 22:05.16 | g1powermac | RobotGuy, yea, know the feeling |
| 22:05.37 | g1powermac | we're prepping the store for a massive outdoor sale for this coming weekend |
| 22:05.37 | RobotGuy | prpplague: Speaking of darnest things, I keep notices all the lovely ladies from Texas on this one dating site. Aren't there enough men to go around down there?? |
| 22:05.45 | g1powermac | we have thousands of shoes to process |
| 22:06.17 | adyer | g1powermac: where are you - I need to keep my wife away :-) |
| 22:06.18 | prpplague | RobotGuy: the men don't want them |
| 22:06.20 | solar | RobotGuy: just some firmware for it. The way it was intended. |
| 22:06.29 | prpplague | RobotGuy: hence why i went overseas for mine |
| 22:06.41 | g1powermac | adyer, heh, unless you live in Kentucky, you should be ok :-) |
| 22:07.11 | adyer | g1powermac: no danger there, though I have been there on my way to TN |
| 22:07.33 | g1powermac | ahh |
| 22:07.46 | solar | g1powermac: I did the vegan thing about just shy of two years. I started getting sick from a lack of iron etc.. So be sure you eat alot of fresh spinach |
| 22:07.51 | RobotGuy | prpplague: The men don't want them??? Hmmmmmm. Well, I've about had my first and last go with a dating site anyways. Best I just stick to technical stuff and forget the other. |
| 22:08.11 | g1powermac | solar, yea |
| 22:08.27 | g1powermac | solar, I do eat a lot of beans which have a iron content |
| 22:08.34 | RobotGuy | solar: Oh, OK. Just something to load and test or is it something I need to build also? |
| 22:08.36 | ds2 | have a nail =) |
| 22:08.59 | solar | RobotGuy: only thing required is you have a Nail and openocd installed. |
| 22:09.38 | RobotGuy | solar: Got both of those now! :) I am sure I could handle this sort of thing. |
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| 22:09.51 | g1powermac | solar, I used to eat alot of salad greens about a month, but haven't been able to get myself to start eating them again |
| 22:10.26 | g1powermac | just haven't gotten a great taste for raw vegetables |
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| 22:10.34 | prpplague | that is the darndest thing |
| 22:10.44 | g1powermac | love raw fruit and cooked veges though |
| 22:10.50 | SpeedEvil | passes g1powermac a baby carrot. |
| 22:10.51 | RobotGuy | solar: You're gonna get me to open that Nail Board up yet, aren't you? :) |
| 22:11.17 | g1powermac | prolly eats more fruit in a day than most eat in a week |
| 22:11.56 | solar | RobotGuy: Not yet. Rest up. I'm not near home and don't have a firmware tarball for ya |
| 22:12.06 | RobotGuy | solar: OK, no problem. |
| 22:12.38 | RobotGuy | solar: Do you have my e-mail in case I am not on when you have something? |
| 22:12.47 | solar | We got all the leds working out of the box. http://dev.gentoo.org/~solar/embedded/tct/linux-2.6.22-tct-leds.patch |
| 22:13.03 | solar | solar@gentoo dot org |
| 22:13.36 | RobotGuy | robotguy@hybotics dot com |
| 22:14.06 | RobotGuy | OK, going to get something to eat and have a nap. Will check back later. |
| 22:14.19 | g1powermac | cya RobotGuy |
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| 22:20.34 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: you ever run across problems using read/write/open/close in function calls? |
| 22:22.34 | kergoth | prpplague: what sort of problems? |
| 22:23.43 | prpplague | kergoth: the open works fine with no errors, but when i try a read/write app hangs like its being blocked |
| 22:23.53 | prpplague | kergoth: no return from from the read/write |
| 22:24.16 | prpplague | kergoth: same exact code works when called from main() |
| 22:24.52 | kergoth | never heard of such a thing. you using select() to ensure there's data to be read / room to write? read/write are allowed to block. |
| 22:25.39 | MonMotha | prpplague: that's really weird. Do you want non-blocking IO? Try opening with O_NONBLOCK if you do |
| 22:26.05 | MonMotha | perhaps the fd isn't getting passed correctly and you're not operating on the descriptor you think you are? |
| 22:26.15 | prpplague | MonMotha: thats my guess |
| 22:26.46 | CosmicPenguin | I agree with everything that was said |
| 22:27.46 | kergoth | strace or gdb are your friends |
| 22:27.47 | kergoth | heh |
| 22:34.27 | ds2 | strace to confirm what you are seeing |
| 22:34.53 | ds2 | also check to see if you have a scoping problem or overlapping name spaces |
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| 22:44.19 | ce_geek | Any ada programmers here? |
| 22:56.55 | SpeedEvil | wonders if there is a ##ada |
| 22:57.35 | dbtid | ce_geek: i used to be :) |
| 22:57.37 | dbtid | i loved ada |
| 22:57.44 | dbtid | it's been a while |
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| 23:00.18 | ce_geek | Yeah, #ada does exist actually. Looks pretty healthy as well. |
| 23:00.48 | ce_geek | I'm looking into what is missing to write code for hammer in ada :) |
| 23:01.34 | ds2 | a labotomy? |
| 23:02.02 | ce_geek | Haha. |
| 23:02.22 | ce_geek | Unfortunately gnat isn't provided in the toolchain :-/ |
| 23:16.05 | roxfan | build your own? |
| 23:19.43 | roxfan | http://elinux.org/BeagleBoard hmm |
| 23:29.32 | solar | it's not that simple sadly. |
| 23:30.26 | solar | ada requires glibc and will not work under uclibc. ada support for eabi is kinda messed up. |
| 23:30.43 | solar | talk to RobotGuy about this. We had a long talk about this subject last week. |
| 23:43.27 | ds2 | bored |
| 23:43.43 | ds2 | swings around stripes of solder like a whip |
| 23:46.58 | SpeedEvil | Make a large blob of solder on a book that you do not care for. |
| 23:47.31 | SpeedEvil | Slam it shut (spine towards you). |
| 23:47.34 | ds2 | Hmmmm |
| 23:48.00 | SpeedEvil | Voila-solder rourshas(sp?) blob. |
| 23:54.21 | SpeedEvil | Also - Bang a nail into a bit of wood, and wet the surface with a salt solution. |
| 23:54.55 | SpeedEvil | Applying 10KV or so at various points (at .5mA or so) causes interesting trails that follow the wood-grain. |