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| 11:59.03 | g1powermac | morning prpplague |
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| 14:41.24 | prpplague | GPSFan: make any progress on apex for the z2? |
| 14:42.09 | prpplague | GPSFan: i did notice the nick that checked in those pxa changes was "elf" which is the nick that the original author of apex uses |
| 14:42.38 | chouimat|work | morning |
| 14:48.58 | GPSFan | prpplague: somewhat, I was able to use a modified version of the .cfg that we both found on the net. It reads the CPU ID correctly and seems to load the debug_handler.bin, but it can't seem to halt the processor. I've read that the PXA270 needs both nTRST and nSRST to be able to halt the processor. |
| 14:50.05 | prpplague | GPSFan: ahh, yea, i connected the nSRST to the reset line |
| 14:50.44 | GPSFan | prpplague: have you had any success with newer versions of openocd? on the hammer ot otherwise. I tried svn 658 and 803 with failures on the hammer. |
| 14:50.56 | GPSFan | where did youconnedt to RESET? |
| 14:51.11 | prpplague | GPSFan: what kind of failure did you see? |
| 14:51.22 | prpplague | GPSFan: i don't recal i'll have to look later today |
| 14:52.59 | GPSFan | prpplague: I'll have to recreate the error's I was trying to see if newer versions of openocd would help with the z2, and would try them on the hammer forst. I gotta run off for a while, I'll recreate the errors later this afternoon. |
| 14:53.52 | prpplague | GPSFan: to answer your question, all of the newer openocd should work, however, the ocd scripting syntax has changed so the posted scripts won't work |
| 14:54.17 | solar | I have updated ones for the new svn syntax |
| 14:54.22 | GPSFan | ah, that makes sense, all I did to the scripts was add the tcl server port. |
| 14:54.49 | GPSFan | prpplague: where did you pick off the RESET line on the Z2? |
| 14:55.47 | prpplague | GPSFan: i'll have to look, i don't have my z2 board handy, i'll post the info on the wiki later today |
| 14:56.03 | GPSFan | prpplague: great, cul... |
| 14:56.14 | prpplague | GPSFan: you get my /msg |
| 14:56.16 | prpplague | ? |
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| 15:05.26 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: greetings |
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| 15:44.53 | prpplague | wmat: greetings |
| 15:45.03 | wmat | prpplague: hey |
| 15:45.11 | prpplague | wmat: i still don't have privilages to delete pages on the wiki |
| 15:45.19 | prpplague | wmat: any idea how to assign that to me? |
| 15:45.48 | wmat | prpplague: yeah, i'll fix that today, along with tbirds access |
| 15:45.54 | prpplague | wmat: thanks |
| 15:46.27 | wmat | np |
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| 15:48.38 | kergoth`work | morning |
| 15:48.49 | chouimat|work | hi prpplague GPSFan kergoth`work |
| 15:49.17 | prpplague | greetings |
| 15:49.25 | kergoth`work | The 3 stages of sex: Tri-weekly, try |
| 15:49.26 | kergoth`work | weekly, try weakly. |
| 15:49.26 | kergoth`work | <PROTECTED> |
| 15:53.30 | CosmicPenguin | That is encouraging |
| 15:53.52 | chouimat|work | kergoth`work: hehe |
| 15:55.04 | prpplague | kergoth`work: cute |
| 15:55.10 | kergoth`work | quite |
| 15:55.40 | kergoth`work | so i've been hating my job for months, maybe years... and i think i finally know why |
| 15:56.58 | chouimat|work | kergoth`work: it's a starting point :) |
| 15:57.06 | solar | who whole wake up in the morn thing |
| 15:57.21 | kergoth`work | i'm thinking its a combination of wrong positions and lack of direction |
| 15:57.28 | prpplague | thinks solar needs some coffee |
| 15:57.30 | kergoth`work | i havent had any idea where i'm going in my career since.. leaving digi |
| 15:57.40 | kergoth`work | so thats what, 5-6 years now |
| 15:57.46 | kergoth`work | just been job hopping |
| 15:57.48 | prpplague | kergoth: about 6 |
| 15:58.13 | prpplague | kergoth`work: don't feel too bad, i'm in the same boat |
| 15:58.42 | prpplague | tries to decide where in the kernel to stick this magstrip reader driver |
| 15:58.47 | kergoth`work | now that i've sort of got a direction.. not plans, but at least a direction.. i'm a lot more excited and motivated to do well in my currnet job |
| 15:59.11 | kergoth`work | course that direction is currently only "make more money and hopefully find a job within mvista that's a better fit, and preferably that they'll let you work full tmie from home on" |
| 15:59.14 | kergoth`work | but thats better than nothing |
| 15:59.59 | prpplague | yep |
| 16:00.50 | kergoth`work | you guys ever read aboutp ersonality typing? amazing how well the INTP myers-briggs type fits me.. it's dead on across the board |
| 16:01.46 | prpplague | kergoth`work: yea, i've read alot of that |
| 16:01.58 | prpplague | been awhile, but i've read it |
| 16:02.08 | kergoth`work | was hoping itd help give some insight into career choices |
| 16:02.16 | prpplague | anyone know of a magstripe reader driver in the main kernel tree? |
| 16:04.27 | prpplague | hmm guess i could put it under input/misc and just not report it as events |
| 16:06.07 | sunrunner20 | lol |
| 16:06.08 | sunrunner20 | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mrs4znSrnms&NR=1 |
| 16:09.37 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: thoughts? where in the kernel would you place a magstripe read driver? |
| 16:11.56 | prpplague | thinks he'll just do it under char |
| 16:12.22 | kergoth`work | what sort of driver is it/ |
| 16:14.29 | prpplague | kergoth`work: it's a two wire interface to a magstripe read, i.e. swipe a card and it outputs the card data |
| 16:14.41 | kergoth`work | what interface to userland? |
| 16:14.44 | prpplague | kergoth`work: you really don't want that to be keyboard data |
| 16:14.52 | kergoth`work | nod |
| 16:14.57 | prpplague | kergoth`work: yet its still kinda considered input |
| 16:15.26 | kergoth`work | do the structures used in the input layer fit the data you'll be reading? |
| 16:15.51 | CosmicPenguin | prpplague: char |
| 16:16.23 | prpplague | kergoth: yea, they mostly fit |
| 16:16.37 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: with just a standard char dev node? |
| 16:16.42 | CosmicPenguin | sure |
| 16:16.44 | CosmicPenguin | misc even |
| 16:17.28 | kergoth`work | i'd say either input layer and just use the event interface, or char. don't know enough about the data to say definatively |
| 16:17.33 | kergoth`work | however that's spelled |
| 16:18.29 | CosmicPenguin | it all sort of depends on how the data gets used |
| 16:18.45 | wmat | prpplague: you're all set on elinux.org now |
| 16:19.00 | prpplague | yea, think i'll go with char since i probably can use the same daemon code from the barcode scanner as it is char as well |
| 16:19.50 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: yea, thats kind of the issue, sometimes they want data visable as keystrokes, other times direct access via a device node |
| 16:20.28 | CosmicPenguin | cake and eat it too |
| 16:20.50 | wmat | prpplague: let me know if it didn't work |
| 16:21.09 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: indeed |
| 16:21.18 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: the barcode is the same way |
| 16:21.34 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: we've always just used a daemon to push the data to keyboard when needed |
| 16:21.44 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: might as well keep it consistanc |
| 16:21.46 | prpplague | t |
| 16:22.13 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: recommend a good example driver using misc.c |
| 16:23.05 | CosmicPenguin | nvram |
| 16:23.25 | CosmicPenguin | rtc |
| 16:23.47 | prpplague | yea, thats what i thought |
| 16:23.54 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: thanks for the feedback |
| 16:24.02 | prpplague | kergoth`work: and you as well |
| 16:24.38 | kergoth`work | hmm |
| 16:24.48 | kergoth`work | you guys happen to know the name of that app that makes a dynamic app static? |
| 16:24.59 | kergoth`work | i know i saw it somewhere |
| 16:28.50 | prpplague | not i |
| 16:29.07 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: looks the netwinder button driver is pretty close to what i have |
| 16:30.28 | CosmicPenguin | there you go |
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| 16:31.41 | kergoth`work | aha |
| 16:31.46 | kergoth`work | http://freshmeat.net/projects/statifier/ was what i was looking for |
| 16:31.46 | prpplague | anyone know that old saying about money and one of your hands itching? |
| 16:31.57 | prpplague | wmat: thanks let me test |
| 16:32.56 | prpplague | wmat: works like a champ |
| 16:34.02 | T0mW | prpplague: yeah, means you are going to get screwed financially. |
| 16:34.16 | kergoth`work | anyone mess with http://libraryopt.sourceforge.net/ ? |
| 16:34.20 | solar | kergoth: neat. The only ones I knew of did it at runtime vs ptrace() and it was ulgy. |
| 16:34.27 | prpplague | T0mW: hehe |
| 16:34.43 | prpplague | T0mW: i think thats when one of butt cheeks itch |
| 16:35.09 | kergoth`work | i just have a lot of machines and dev environments and chroots and stuff for work, some of the apps i need everywhere have lots of deps, easier to statifier them than try to get it built fully static |
| 16:35.14 | kergoth`work | heh |
| 16:35.54 | CosmicPenguin | that is a good idea |
| 16:36.16 | wmat | prpplague: great |
| 16:36.49 | T0mW | is STILL attempting to close on this house |
| 16:36.57 | prpplague | T0mW: jeeze |
| 16:37.59 | T0mW | prpplague: no sh!t, these people have lied to everyone. They said they removed all their possessions from the house Saturday, and today they say that they have the truck there and will be moved out today. |
| 16:38.40 | prpplague | T0mW: doh |
| 16:39.57 | T0mW | prpplague: so, I said to set the closing for Wednesday. Do the final walk-through in the afternoon before the closing. Then, after the closing, I am going straight to the house to change the locks. |
| 16:40.03 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: think "intellihead" is too long for function names and defines? |
| 16:40.14 | T0mW | IH_ |
| 16:40.37 | prpplague | T0mW: not very descriptive |
| 16:40.46 | T0mW | prpplague: easy to type |
| 16:41.24 | T0mW | so, #define IH_ "IntelliHead" |
| 16:41.42 | T0mW | then they can get a clue |
| 16:54.35 | ds2 | Error: Bad or insufficient clue in universe to complete operation |
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| 17:04.15 | T0mW | ds2: heh |
| 17:05.33 | RobotGuy | G'Morning |
| 17:13.12 | kergoth`work | i should make a shell wrapper around ssh to put back my terminal title when the session closes |
| 17:13.13 | kergoth`work | hmm |
| 17:16.04 | kergoth`work | this being motivated thing is refreshing. |
| 17:16.55 | kergoth`work | what music do you guys listen to at work, if any? |
| 17:16.59 | kergoth`work | trying to find a good genre for coding |
| 17:17.08 | kergoth`work | i listen to everything, and music really affects my moods |
| 17:17.23 | kergoth`work | thinking maybe techno/dance/industrial or something |
| 17:18.21 | CosmicPenguin | I listen to dance |
| 17:18.25 | CosmicPenguin | pop dance |
| 17:18.51 | CosmicPenguin | www.radioseven.se |
| 17:19.26 | CosmicPenguin | And thats strange for me, because i'm very much a 90s alternative sort of person usually |
| 17:19.44 | ds2 | hmmm lots of dance stuff from .se |
| 17:19.54 | kergoth`work | heh, i listen to mostly alternative type stuff also, usually the laid back stuff, like presidents of the usa and cake |
| 17:19.58 | kergoth`work | but it varies |
| 17:20.01 | g1powermac_PB | hey RobotGuy and prpplague |
| 17:20.12 | prpplague | greetings |
| 17:20.25 | kergoth`work | saw presidents of the usa live a few months back.. kicked ass |
| 17:20.27 | RobotGuy | Howdy |
| 17:20.42 | g1powermac_PB | finally got back from the hospital |
| 17:21.01 | g1powermac_PB | had the ultrasound done of my gallbladder |
| 17:25.41 | g1powermac_PB | will hopefully get results later today |
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| 18:25.17 | kergoth`work | man i <3 the tabkit ff extension |
| 18:25.23 | kergoth`work | love it so much more than tabmixplus |
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| 18:32.29 | CosmicPenguin | tries |
| 18:32.46 | CosmicPenguin | kergoth`work: your suggestions in that regard usaully end up working out for me |
| 18:32.57 | CosmicPenguin | you recommended wiggle to me one time, and I can't figure out how I ever lived without it |
| 18:33.00 | kergoth`work | hehe |
| 18:33.33 | kergoth`work | i have a tendency to -need- to optimize process/workflow/tools that i work with regularly, i cant just put up with inefficiency, it drives me crazy |
| 18:33.39 | kergoth`work | tabkit has a tab grouping feature |
| 18:33.41 | kergoth`work | its incredible |
| 18:34.00 | kergoth`work | http://www.viddler.com/explore/cybernetnews/videos/35/ |
| 18:34.01 | kergoth`work | check that out |
| 18:34.02 | kergoth`work | that shows it |
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| 18:42.28 | kergoth`work | i often end up with what would be like 5 rows of tabs, but thanks to grouping, its 2 rows with 4 groups |
| 18:42.40 | kergoth`work | the only thing i've found problematic is remembering which group has what, at times :) |
| 18:42.56 | kergoth`work | but the button to look at thumbnails of all the tabs usually helps me get around that |
| 18:44.50 | kergoth`work | man i'm really liking zsh now that i switched |
| 18:44.57 | kergoth`work | still a lot to learn thoguh |
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| 18:56.36 | g1powermac | kergoth`work, dude, thats one freikin awesome extension :-) |
| 18:56.53 | kergoth`work | indeed :) |
| 18:57.45 | g1powermac | best part is it keeps tabs opened from a website in the same group, even if its a different site, I love it |
| 18:58.11 | kergoth`work | yeah, default is to group by parent, very handy |
| 18:58.19 | CosmicPenguin | I like the duplicate tab option |
| 18:58.25 | g1powermac | no more having to go searching for a newly opened tab that opened all the way on the other side of the list |
| 18:58.30 | CosmicPenguin | Why was that not a default? |
| 18:58.38 | CosmicPenguin | in plain ff, I mean |
| 18:58.51 | CosmicPenguin | and close tabs to left and right too |
| 19:08.47 | kergoth`work | good question |
| 19:09.09 | CosmicPenguin | This will be handy for wikipedia work |
| 19:09.27 | kergoth`work | heh, i have a -lot- of extensions loaded, painstakingly setup. here's another tab one you might like |
| 19:09.35 | kergoth`work | http://sogame.awardspace.com/ttwindow/ |
| 19:09.46 | kergoth`work | i've been wanting this extension's features in stock ff ever since the first time i used it |
| 19:10.23 | RobotGuy | What does tabkit work with? |
| 19:10.33 | RobotGuy | Firefox? |
| 19:10.55 | CosmicPenguin | I like copy to new window |
| 19:10.57 | CosmicPenguin | I would use that alot |
| 19:11.42 | kergoth`work | i like move to an existing window, i use that a ton, i try to have a couple windows open, one for personal, one for work, that kind of thing |
| 19:11.47 | kergoth`work | RobotGuy: yep |
| 19:12.04 | kergoth`work | now what i want is the ability to use Tab To Window's features on a tab kit tab group. |
| 19:12.06 | kergoth`work | move this group to this window |
| 19:12.10 | kergoth`work | would kick ass |
| 19:23.29 | RobotGuy | I have my 2.6.26 kernel working. :) |
| 19:23.45 | RobotGuy | And it appears LZO compression for JFFS2 |
| 19:25.35 | CosmicPenguin | thats sezy, huh? |
| 19:25.38 | CosmicPenguin | sexy even |
| 19:25.43 | RobotGuy | CosmicPenguin: Sure thing. |
| 19:26.12 | RobotGuy | It gained me 1 MB of flash space. |
| 19:26.31 | CosmicPenguin | nice |
| 19:26.39 | RobotGuy | Definitely. :D |
| 19:26.41 | CosmicPenguin | how is the speed? |
| 19:27.02 | RobotGuy | Seems just fine. I don't notice any load time difference so far. |
| 19:27.24 | CosmicPenguin | OLPC is currently arguing with themselves if they want to go to LZO or not |
| 19:27.44 | RobotGuy | CosmicPenguin: Why don't they just try it and see? |
| 19:27.53 | ds2 | why not just add a LZO block to the Geode ;) |
| 19:28.02 | CosmicPenguin | because arguing theory is what university types do |
| 19:28.13 | RobotGuy | There might be more load time differences on loading larger programs though. Mine are rather small at present. |
| 19:32.36 | RobotGuy | I'm still having problems with mdev though, apparently. It is a known bug. |
| 19:37.51 | RobotGuy | I'm still having problems getting my thumb drive detected and such too/ |
| 19:40.21 | kergoth`work | http://kb.mozillazine.org/Keyconfig_extension http://www.pqrs.org/tekezo/firefox/extensions/functions_for_keyconfig/ |
| 19:40.46 | RobotGuy | Even with the SCSI and USB Storage stuff built into my kernel, the thumb drive doesn't usually get detected properly. |
| 19:46.41 | RobotGuy | We've got a startup setup so that my robot will startup from flash if there is no thumb drive or from the thumb drive if one is present. |
| 19:48.35 | CosmicPenguin | mnan, if you repeatedly call regcomp() without an accompanying regfree() you will be very sad very quickly |
| 19:49.11 | CosmicPenguin | acpid did just that when you reloaded the configuration files |
| 19:49.28 | CosmicPenguin | I ran a loop reloading the config files every 5 seconds, and it leaked 17Mb in 15 minutes |
| 19:49.57 | CosmicPenguin | a slick trick for a daemon that only uses 12k nominaly |
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| 19:54.21 | RobotGuy | Now I should have enough flash space to put the last two packages I need. |
| 19:58.29 | RobotGuy | I have a Microsoft labeled thumb drive plugged into Nail now. :D:D |
| 20:01.02 | RobotGuy | sighs |
| 20:11.19 | RobotGuy | solar: ping and good morning. :) |
| 20:11.32 | RobotGuy | Oops, wrong channel |
| 20:13.20 | CosmicPenguin | http://www.corrupteddatarecovery.com/Port/3292-Port-Type-tcpudp-cart-o-rama.asp |
| 20:13.24 | CosmicPenguin | anybody know what cart-o-rama is? |
| 20:14.36 | prpplague | hmm, my disable_irq doesn't seem to be working |
| 20:19.58 | RobotGuy | disables prpplague's interrults. :) |
| 20:20.06 | RobotGuy | interrupts |
| 20:21.52 | RobotGuy | Greetings Program |
| 20:37.45 | RobotGuy | Hmmmm, maybe I disabled prpplague.. |
| 20:38.14 | prpplague | just busy working |
| 20:38.22 | RobotGuy | jokes around with prpplague |
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| 21:39.56 | wmat | watches the 'Users Online'widget on elinux.org; refresh, refresh.... |
| 21:40.59 | ds2 | Silverthorn: 3G active 1.5 hours w/7WH battery; ARM based iPhone: 3G active 5hours with a 5.5WH battery |
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| 22:00.33 | kergoth`work | hmm, my git homefiles repo goes back to 2006-02-02.. i wonder wher ethe older history went :| |
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| 22:05.36 | kergoth`work | wonder if it was in my old svk repo |
| 22:48.51 | kergoth`work | sheesh, not 5 yet.. |
| 22:48.53 | kergoth`work | grumbles |
| 22:49.56 | Crofton | change time zones |
| 22:50.09 | ds2 | move to boston ;) |
| 22:50.18 | ds2 | or nova scotia |
| 22:50.56 | CosmicPenguin | or the ISS |
| 22:51.05 | CosmicPenguin | every 90 minutes its quitting time |
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| 23:08.16 | kergoth`work | hmmmmm... https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/3885 |
| 23:11.45 | RobotGuy | g1powermac: My new Hammer module and Nail Kit have shipped. |
| 23:11.59 | g1powermac | cool |
| 23:12.18 | g1powermac | was outbid again on an apple IIe system |
| 23:12.30 | RobotGuy | Did you bid at the end? |
| 23:12.41 | g1powermac | refuses to pay more than $200 for these systems |
| 23:12.48 | RobotGuy | Ahhhhhh |
| 23:13.01 | g1powermac | no, but these machines are just hot on ebay atm |
| 23:13.28 | CosmicPenguin | children of the 80s have money and time on their hands |
| 23:13.38 | g1powermac | seems that way |
| 23:15.09 | RobotGuy | I'm trying to get mkfs.jffs2 to use lzo compression, but so far no luck. |
| 23:16.02 | RobotGuy | I think mkfs.jffs2 must have to be built with lzo compression enabled. |
| 23:21.08 | kergoth`work | http://www.concurringopinions.com/archives/2008/07/the_new_foreign.html |
| 23:35.22 | RobotGuy | How do I get lzo enabled for use with mkfs.jffs2? |
| 23:35.34 | ds2 | you need a patched version, IIRC |
| 23:36.05 | RobotGuy | Wonderful. |
| 23:36.11 | RobotGuy | frowns |
| 23:36.28 | CosmicPenguin | yeah, I don't think they have released a lzo version yet |
| 23:36.48 | RobotGuy | mkfs.jffs2 -L lists lzo |
| 23:36.54 | RobotGuy | Currently disabled |
| 23:37.56 | RobotGuy | The kernel knows about lzo for JFFS2. |
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