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| 01:15.17 | RobotGuy | sighs |
| 01:15.47 | ball | sways |
| 01:16.01 | RobotGuy | balls are supposed to roll. :) |
| 01:16.28 | ball | I try not to, if I can help it. |
| 01:34.45 | g1powermac | heya RobotGuy |
| 02:00.33 | RobotGuy | Hi |
| 02:01.04 | RobotGuy | Got my 2nd Nail and another Hammer today. |
| 02:02.14 | g1powermac | kewl |
| 02:05.45 | RobotGuy | Still too warm to solder though. |
| 02:07.02 | g1powermac | meh, yea, got that issue here |
| 02:07.11 | g1powermac | dang A/C died a few days ago |
| 02:07.27 | RobotGuy | Bummer. Have you looked at the BeagleBoard? |
| 02:07.29 | g1powermac | we're now living on two little window units to A/C the entire house |
| 02:08.12 | g1powermac | but we'll be getting a brand spanking new one tomorrow, landlord is paying for it too :-) |
| 02:08.34 | g1powermac | never looked at the BeagleBoard |
| 02:08.37 | RobotGuy | Cool, err, no pun intended. :) |
| 02:08.47 | RobotGuy | http://beagleboard.org |
| 02:09.31 | RobotGuy | The development end of things still has me a bit concerned though. |
| 02:11.45 | g1powermac | hmm, interesting |
| 02:12.30 | g1powermac | man, I found one wild royalty free music track: http://www.wavtracks.com/m3u/LostHorizon.m3u |
| 02:12.40 | g1powermac | is going to make something with that. . . |
| 02:13.03 | g1powermac | need to buy the album from wavtracks to get the full version |
| 02:23.11 | g1powermac | gnight all |
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| 07:26.17 | [AD]Turbo | hola |
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| 09:38.06 | methril | hi |
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| 11:42.06 | methril | <RobotGuy> pìng |
| 11:42.52 | RobotGuy | methril: pong |
| 11:43.06 | RobotGuy | What's up? |
| 11:43.21 | methril | did you see this: http://www.robodevelopment.com/ ? |
| 11:43.32 | methril | i'll see and i remember you :) |
| 11:44.33 | RobotGuy | Oh, that's very cool! I had not seen that before, thanks. |
| 11:44.56 | methril | you are wellcome |
| 11:45.14 | RobotGuy | How are you doing? |
| 11:45.19 | methril | and this http://www.linuxsymposium.org/2008/view_abstract.php?content_key=192 |
| 11:45.28 | methril | it's linuxrobot.org |
| 11:45.33 | methril | i'm fine, and you? |
| 11:46.16 | methril | still hot? |
| 11:46.43 | RobotGuy | It's been a bit warm here, but not too bad. |
| 11:47.19 | RobotGuy | I have been working on the software side of my robot - got it setup to startup from flash (if no thumb drive) or thumb drive if present. |
| 11:47.55 | methril | nice!! step by step is growing your baby hehe |
| 11:48.03 | RobotGuy | Now I am going to start some serious circuit prototyping for W.A.L.T.E.R. |
| 11:48.14 | RobotGuy | Yes, indeed, and I am getting more excited! |
| 11:48.41 | RobotGuy | The Hammer-RDP is almost ready for prototyping now too. :) |
| 11:49.04 | methril | i'm going to take a look to the hammer boards, you told me that are nice |
| 11:49.55 | RobotGuy | I like them. :) I think when Hammer-RDP is ready for sale, it will be an excellent board for those who want to do robotics, process control, and general tinkering with sensors and such. |
| 11:50.23 | RobotGuy | You can also create and add stackable boards on top of Hammer-RDP. |
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| 11:50.46 | RobotGuy | g1powermac: Hey there and good morning! |
| 11:51.20 | g1powermac | hey RobotGuy |
| 11:51.20 | methril | is tinycantools developing the Hammer board? |
| 11:52.14 | RobotGuy | TinCanTools is producing the Hammer-RDP |
| 11:52.42 | RobotGuy | It was a product suggestion I made when I started working with Hammer. |
| 11:53.10 | RobotGuy | I'm extremely excited about the Hammer-RDP. |
| 11:53.29 | RobotGuy | It's small too - 3" x 3" |
| 11:53.43 | methril | oh!! any info? |
| 11:54.38 | methril | or not yet? |
| 11:56.57 | RobotGuy | I am just getting ready to put some info up on the Wiki |
| 11:58.37 | RobotGuy | There will be some info up about Hammer-RDP today. More info will come as more is available. |
| 11:58.57 | methril | i'll check it next week |
| 11:59.00 | methril | :) |
| 12:05.43 | g1powermac | huh, interesting new arm powered toy: http://www.dealextreme.com/details.dx/sku.10238~r.32883477 |
| 12:06.14 | g1powermac | http://spmp305x.spritesserver.nl/wiki/index.php/Main_Page |
| 12:10.16 | T0mW | heh, "300,000 pixel screen" |
| 12:20.10 | RobotGuy | Interesting, but they should have made it USB 2.0 |
| 12:20.52 | RobotGuy | There really isn't any excuse to not have USB 2.0 these days. |
| 12:21.02 | RobotGuy | T0mW: Good morning |
| 12:21.13 | T0mW | RobotGuy: GM |
| 12:21.41 | RobotGuy | I'm getting ready to do some hacking on/with a Nail Board. |
| 12:21.50 | T0mW | just working up the nerve to go to the house today, turn on the water and see what leaks. |
| 12:21.52 | T0mW | heh |
| 12:22.14 | RobotGuy | That should prove interesting.. |
| 12:22.31 | RobotGuy | imagines a geyser. :P |
| 12:22.53 | RobotGuy | OSCON is next week! |
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| 12:25.46 | RobotGuy | sjhill: Greets |
| 12:26.45 | RobotGuy | Man, tabkit really messes with Firefox 3. |
| 12:33.02 | RobotGuy | I need to figure out where I can come up with about $1500.00 |
| 12:35.34 | agaffney | become a gigolo |
| 12:35.52 | agaffney | there are lots of lonely women willing to pay |
| 12:46.34 | mbuf | i am getting the following being detected for touchscreen; but, which is the device file i need to link to for /dev/input/touchscreen0? |
| 12:46.45 | mbuf | http://rafb.net/p/JmyP1k89.html |
| 12:58.17 | RobotGuy | agaffney: Yeah, I really need that.. :P |
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| 13:15.46 | RobotGuy | is in major tinkering mode today |
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| 13:22.10 | RobotGuy | Greetings Program! |
| 13:33.35 | sjhill | RobotGuy: howdy |
| 13:33.52 | sjhill | hey prpplague |
| 13:34.09 | prpplague | sjhill: greetings |
| 13:47.13 | g1powermac | RobotGuy, I figure that svideo port on the beagle board is only for outputting video, right? |
| 13:48.08 | g1powermac | still would love to find a board like that but with a firewire port on it. . . |
| 14:00.23 | RobotGuy | g1powermac: I would not assume that. Have you looked at the hardware manual? |
| 14:00.36 | g1powermac | not yet |
| 14:01.33 | RobotGuy | Virtual Cogs is going to have their i.MX31 board available sometime this month or next. They are saying middle of this month, which is now, so I guess they have not made it yet. |
| 14:02.32 | RobotGuy | g1powermac: http://wiki.virtualcogs.com/index.php?title=VCMX310 |
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| 14:03.57 | g1powermac | hmm, the COG has pcmcia, that means I could add a firewire pcmcia card. . . |
| 14:04.10 | RobotGuy | Uh huh. |
| 14:04.58 | RobotGuy | I still am concerned about the software dev side of BeagleBoard, but the hardware looks awesome. |
| 14:05.45 | g1powermac | its unfortunate they don't have breakout board with the pcmcia brought out. . . |
| 14:06.39 | RobotGuy | I think SFE has a breakout for PCMCIA though. |
| 14:07.11 | prpplague | RobotGuy: what kind of concern do you have about the software for the beagle? |
| 14:14.38 | RobotGuy | prpplague: Development just doesn't seem to be as open as for other boards. Having to use a specific compiler that doesn't necessarily work right. |
| 14:16.38 | prpplague | RobotGuy: you don't have to use the one they suggest, you can do others, you just have to be prepared to do some tweaking/testing |
| 14:18.53 | RobotGuy | prpplague: Hmmmmmm. |
| 14:20.17 | RobotGuy | It's going to be interesting to see if they can really bring Beagle out at the price they want to sell it at. |
| 14:22.11 | prpplague | it's already selling at the price they said it would |
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| 14:25.16 | RobotGuy | I thought that was just for dev boards. |
| 14:25.35 | prpplague | what else is there? |
| 14:25.55 | RobotGuy | Pre rev C boards. |
| 14:26.37 | prpplague | the production boards are available now thru digi |
| 14:26.39 | prpplague | digikey |
| 14:26.50 | RobotGuy | For right now though, I think I would rather stay with the Samsung processors. |
| 14:27.08 | RobotGuy | The rev C boards won't be available until November. |
| 14:27.39 | prpplague | only minor differences iirc |
| 14:27.50 | prpplague | mostly bug fixes |
| 14:28.08 | RobotGuy | I'm curious though, if Beagle can come out at $149.00 then why are other similar boards so much more expensive? |
| 14:28.34 | chouimat|work | they didn't pay the engineers :) |
| 14:28.54 | RobotGuy | ~lart chouimat|work |
| 14:28.54 | purl | stabs chouimat|work |
| 14:28.58 | RobotGuy | :P |
| 14:29.11 | RobotGuy | purl is violent today |
| 14:29.28 | g1powermac | hmmm. . . |
| 14:29.29 | Crofton | there are a number of compromises also |
| 14:29.32 | g1powermac | ~lart RobotGuy |
| 14:29.32 | purl | nukes RobotGuy with a single large nuke |
| 14:29.38 | g1powermac | hahahahaah, I love it :-) |
| 14:29.40 | Crofton | like not bringing out lcd pins to reduce layer count |
| 14:30.28 | RobotGuy | If they don't bring out pins, how do you connect? Solder? |
| 14:30.49 | RobotGuy | Yep, purl is definitely violent today. |
| 14:31.08 | g1powermac | RobotGuy, the best part is that it used my style of violence :-) |
| 14:31.28 | RobotGuy | hides from the evil g1powermac |
| 14:31.59 | g1powermac | bwahahahah |
| 14:32.17 | g1powermac | should get out his evil picture |
| 14:32.32 | RobotGuy | takes another look at Beagle, wishing there were a more hires picture. |
| 14:33.15 | g1powermac | RobotGuy, http://www.thisoldgadget.com/me.jpg |
| 14:35.23 | RobotGuy | is now REALLY scared of g1powermac |
| 14:35.30 | g1powermac | bwahahaahha :-) |
| 14:37.46 | RobotGuy | I'm going to send W.A.L.T.E.R. out on a mission.. |
| 14:42.45 | chouimat|work | RobotGuy: command: bring beer ;) |
| 14:46.47 | RobotGuy | chouimat|work: :) |
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| 14:56.29 | RobotGuy | Uh oh, a penquin with ops. ;) >ducks> |
| 14:58.02 | RobotGuy | CosmicPenguin: Good Morning. |
| 14:58.12 | CosmicPenguin | hidyho |
| 14:59.57 | RobotGuy | prpplague: As long as I make sure to connect JUST the GND of Nail to the rest of my circuit, can I still use the USB for JTAG and console? |
| 15:00.01 | g1powermac | anyone know of a cheap arm board with a minipci slot? |
| 15:00.30 | RobotGuy | g1powermac: I don't think 'cheap' and 'minipc' go well together.. |
| 15:00.42 | g1powermac | cheapish then :-) |
| 15:00.42 | RobotGuy | minipci that is |
| 15:01.31 | RobotGuy | googles for "cheap" + "arm" + "minipci" and gets some really odd results.. |
| 15:02.24 | CosmicPenguin | don't click on any of them |
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| 15:03.50 | mnemoc | hi, do you know about anyone that bought the dutch subnotebook with loongson 2F CPU? ... somehow it smells fishy |
| 15:03.55 | g1powermac | or even pcmcia. . . |
| 15:06.46 | chouimat|work | mnemoc: why? |
| 15:07.51 | RobotGuy | OK, batten down the hatches.. It's time to SOLDER.. |
| 15:11.18 | mnemoc | chouimat|work: http://vanderled.com/onlinestore/product_info.php/products_id/87 ... no impressum, sales paypal-only... and more important of all... no blogger talking about his experience with it |
| 15:11.59 | mnemoc | chouimat|work: as it's the first mips notebook ever sold on this side of the world, one would expect lots of interest |
| 15:12.22 | chouimat|work | mnemoc: true ... |
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| 15:14.10 | solar | g1powermac: Re: MiniPCI. Not arm based. quite a few mipsel or geode based. If you are not dead set on arm. Check routerboard.com (lots of slots for cheap) |
| 15:15.03 | RobotGuy | solar: Good morning |
| 15:15.05 | chouimat|work | solar: they worth the price? |
| 15:17.25 | solar | I bought about 5-6 of those before. I have to admit. It's the only vanilla-firmeware in history I did not actually want to kill. So yeah I'd buy them again. I was pleased with the hardware. But for ease of devel. I have to admit I'm happy with a really simple geode based stuff.. http://soekris.com/net4521.htm |
| 15:18.06 | g1powermac | solar, nice |
| 15:43.52 | GPSFan | g1powermac: how much you looking to spend? |
| 15:45.01 | g1powermac | under $250ish |
| 15:46.28 | GPSFan | g1powermac: how many mini-pci slots? |
| 15:50.00 | g1powermac | one is really all thats needed |
| 15:50.16 | GPSFan | g1powermac: http://shop.gateworks.com/index.php?act=viewProd&productId=4 |
| 15:51.16 | GPSFan | g1powermac: they have 2 and 4 slot versions as well. and IXP425 and IXP435 processors. |
| 15:52.18 | g1powermac | hmm, nice |
| 15:53.14 | GPSFan | g1powermac: I have one of the 4 slot IXP425 boards, it works well, and has support from the nslu2 folks. |
| 16:13.24 | prpplague | RobotGuy: sorry i didn't understand your question |
| 16:14.53 | RobotGuy | prpplague: What question? |
| 16:15.28 | RobotGuy | It looks like I now have three GOOD Hammer modules, but I can not flash on the second Nail Board. |
| 16:15.46 | prpplague | <RobotGuy> prpplague: As long as I make sure to connect JUST the GND of Nail to the rest of my circuit, can I still use the USB for JTAG and console? |
| 16:15.54 | RobotGuy | Already swapped JTAG cables and no change. |
| 16:16.04 | kergoth`work | morning |
| 16:16.15 | solar | morn kergoth |
| 16:16.19 | RobotGuy | Oh, that question. Non issue at this time since the pins I have are too fat for the breadboard. |
| 16:17.20 | solar | quotes.. "<prpplague> one word: dremel" |
| 16:17.41 | prpplague | hehehehe |
| 16:18.03 | RobotGuy | I can't get JTAG on the new Nail Board, but the Hammer module works fine - I can console to it. |
| 16:20.33 | prpplague | RobotGuy: can you provide a log? |
| 16:21.35 | RobotGuy | prpplague: http://pastebin.ca/1075643 |
| 16:22.22 | prpplague | RobotGuy: please post a copy of the /proc/bus/usb/devices |
| 16:23.31 | RobotGuy | prpplague: http://pastebin.ca/1075648 |
| 16:24.34 | prpplague | RobotGuy: looks like the eeprom wasn't flash properly |
| 16:25.18 | RobotGuy | prpplague: Is there a way I can fix that here? |
| 16:25.43 | prpplague | RobotGuy: yea, i'll send you the code to fix it |
| 16:25.51 | RobotGuy | prpplague: OK, great. :) |
| 16:25.54 | prpplague | RobotGuy: but it will have to wait till this afternoon |
| 16:26.00 | RobotGuy | That's fine. |
| 16:26.09 | RobotGuy | I have two Hammers to tinker with. :) |
| 16:32.06 | prpplague | http://www.dealextreme.com/details.dx/sku.10238~r.32883477 |
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| 16:34.02 | wmat | prpplague: there was a blog post about that device today somewhere |
| 16:34.14 | prpplague | wmat: yea its posted on hackaday |
| 16:34.48 | wmat | right, that's where i saw it |
| 16:35.05 | wmat | what ARM cpu is in it? |
| 16:35.54 | wmat | looks |
| 16:36.42 | wmat | ah, ARM926EJ |
| 16:37.20 | wmat | that's ARMv5TEJ |
| 16:39.19 | prpplague | wmat: where did you see that info? |
| 16:39.24 | prpplague | wmat: i was just looking |
| 16:39.52 | RobotGuy | wonders what mischief he can get into with three Hammers. |
| 16:40.21 | wmat | prpplague: first here - http://www.sunplusmm.com/products/dsc/spmp.asp |
| 16:40.37 | wmat | prpplague: then - http://www.arm.com/products/CPUs/ARM926EJ-S.html |
| 16:41.48 | prpplague | ahh |
| 16:42.39 | prpplague | wmat: ahh |
| 16:43.06 | prpplague | wmat: gonna pretty hard hacking that without a pinout |
| 16:44.48 | RobotGuy | That chip has some nice features. :) |
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| 16:51.15 | prpplague | i guess they are a little new are reverse engineering hardware devices |
| 16:51.24 | prpplague | they look to be pretty good on the software side |
| 16:52.12 | prpplague | doesn't look like they've found jtag yet |
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| 17:14.20 | RobotGuy | Did I have fun? |
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| 18:57.16 | kergoth`work | chuckles at http://www.xeromag.com/fun/personality.html .. alternative take on the myers-briggs persoanlity types |
| 18:57.41 | kergoth`work | "The typical INTP is a logical, abstract thinker whose intellect is ideally suited to understanding pure mathematics, linguistics, formal logic theory, and other pursuits unsuited to making a real living." |
| 19:00.21 | chouimat|work | lol |
| 19:12.23 | mnemoc | egghead :p |
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| 19:27.26 | GPSFan | prpplague: quick flyswatter question. How much current does the flyswatter draw from the target's Vtarget? |
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| 19:39.01 | chouimat|work | cool Outside Contractor :) |
| 19:45.00 | prpplague | GPSFan: very very little, iirc less than 5mA |
| 19:45.11 | prpplague | GPSFan: stickly used for setting the target voltage |
| 19:45.38 | prpplague | GPSFan: if you'd rather not use the target as the voltage source connect the 3.3v pad on the jtag header to the Vtarger |
| 19:46.39 | GPSFan | prpplague: the schematic shows it powering the 2 AVC4T245's but that's it. |
| 19:46.57 | prpplague | that is correct |
| 19:47.20 | prpplague | GPSFan: that's basically so you can have anywhere from 1.2 to 3.3v target |
| 19:48.46 | GPSFan | the z2's keep alive supply is only good for 30ma or so. I just hooked it up and the supply is ok with the flyswatter load. still can't halt the processor though. |
| 20:07.07 | prpplague | GPSFan: yea, i need to find that reset line for you, just been too busy, sorry |
| 20:18.17 | GPSFan | <PROTECTED> |
| 20:19.12 | prpplague | GPSFan: interesting |
| 20:19.17 | GPSFan | but it doesn't work as nSRST |
| 20:19.33 | prpplague | GPSFan: let me grab my stuff and see if i can find it |
| 20:19.55 | GPSFan | prpplague: thanks, I'd really appreciate it... |
| 20:33.56 | prpplague | GPSFan: hmm, the nRESET line for the cpu seems to only be available on one pin of the tps chipser |
| 20:33.59 | prpplague | chipset |
| 20:34.03 | prpplague | looks for the datasheet |
| 20:36.22 | GPSFan | ball W20 on the 23x23mm package |
| 20:37.51 | GPSFan | pin 27 of the tps65021 is /respwron which is what I tried. |
| 20:39.43 | prpplague | GPSFan: yea pin 27 is connected to nRESET on the W20 |
| 20:40.10 | prpplague | GPSFan: that didn't work from there? |
| 20:40.11 | GPSFan | hmmm very interesting, maybe something else is wrong. |
| 20:40.26 | prpplague | GPSFan: i'll have to look at the pxa specs |
| 20:40.56 | GPSFan | no, when I started up openocd it pulled nSRST that I had tied to pin 27 and it powered down the z2 |
| 20:41.04 | prpplague | checks the reference schematic |
| 20:43.10 | prpplague | interesting the reference schematic doesn't even have connections to the jtag for nRST or nTRST |
| 20:43.59 | prpplague | oh wait thats for the fpga |
| 20:44.01 | prpplague | lookas |
| 20:45.53 | prpplague | GPSFan: where did you see that you needed both nRST and nTRST? |
| 20:49.25 | GPSFan | prpplague: there were a couple of posts on the openezx ml. and I interpreted par 26.4.1 of the pxa270 design guide to imply just that. I also haven't found any other jtag connection to th pxa270 that uses nSRST ( the design kit schematics and the schematics for balloon3. |
| 20:50.07 | GPSFan | so while I read that it was neccessary I don't neccessairly believe it. |
| 20:50.32 | prpplague | GPSFan: ahh ok |
| 20:50.33 | GPSFan | I was just hoping that was why I couldn't halt the cpu. |
| 20:50.51 | prpplague | GPSFan: hmm, i think i might have the reason |
| 20:51.03 | prpplague | GPSFan: did you at 100k pullups to your jtag lines? |
| 20:51.04 | GPSFan | I see activity on all the jtag pins after openocd starts up. |
| 20:51.33 | GPSFan | I added one for tck, the others seem to be pulled up already. |
| 20:51.49 | prpplague | GPSFan: to 3.15v? |
| 20:51.58 | GPSFan | to vtarget |
| 20:52.17 | prpplague | GPSFan: what was vtarget measuring at? |
| 20:52.17 | GPSFan | I used 47k.. |
| 20:52.32 | GPSFan | wait while I go measure it. |
| 20:56.25 | GPSFan | with the z2 off it's 2.99v once running 3.3v |
| 20:56.51 | prpplague | that sounds right |
| 20:57.03 | prpplague | but i used 4 100k pullups |
| 20:57.21 | prpplague | i didn't measure any pullups when i when pinning out |
| 20:57.27 | GPSFan | the pullup didn't make any difference |
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| 20:57.38 | GPSFan | I'll try 4 100k's |
| 20:58.42 | prpplague | GPSFan: does the balloon schematic have 4 pullups? |
| 21:18.08 | GPSFan | prpplague: somewhat hard to tell, their schematic is not as readable as one might like. http://balloonboard.org/hardware/321/Balloon3v21_schematic_20070201.pdf |
| 21:22.38 | prpplague | looks |
| 21:23.40 | prpplague | GPSFan: just measured tck to several different Vcc's and i don't get any indication of some pullups |
| 21:23.41 | GPSFan | prpplague: 4 91k pullups, nTRST, TMS, TCK, TDI |
| 21:24.12 | prpplague | GPSFan: which leads me to believe you are going to need them when using the flyswatter |
| 21:24.41 | GPSFan | I have them now. but it still won't halt |
| 21:24.56 | GPSFan | no nSRST connected. |
| 21:26.43 | GPSFan | prpplague: http://pastebin.ca/1075946 |
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| 21:27.32 | GPSFan | prpplague: from line 30 down |
| 21:28.11 | prpplague | GPSFan: can you pastebin your cfg file |
| 21:28.26 | GPSFan | sure. |
| 21:29.07 | ce_geek | howdy do |
| 21:29.34 | GPSFan | prpplague: http://pastebin.ca/1075950 |
| 21:29.36 | prpplague | hey hey |
| 21:30.50 | prpplague | GPSFan: you need to add this: |
| 21:30.53 | prpplague | #use combined on interfaces or targets that can't set TRST/SRST separately |
| 21:30.53 | prpplague | reset_config trst_and_srst |
| 21:31.20 | prpplague | oh wait you have that already |
| 21:31.55 | prpplague | GPSFan: try commenting out those two delays |
| 21:32.35 | prpplague | interesting |
| 21:32.48 | GPSFan | prpplague: ok, btw it doesn't work at all with reset_config trst_and_srst. just with reset_config trst_and_srst combined |
| 21:33.45 | prpplague | interesting |
| 21:34.26 | prpplague | GPSFan: try this, hold the reset button down while starting openocd |
| 21:34.38 | GPSFan | prpplague: same. when I telnet to the openocd I try and halt with the halt command followed by the poll command. it comes back and says target running. |
| 21:34.39 | prpplague | GPSFan: continue holding when it starts up |
| 21:34.54 | prpplague | GPSFan: interesting |
| 21:35.08 | GPSFan | which reset button, the power button or the little reset button? |
| 21:35.15 | prpplague | GPSFan: the little reset button |
| 21:36.25 | GPSFan | I get the error that started at line 1 of the pastebin. the z2 doesn't power up with that button pushed. |
| 21:36.55 | prpplague | very very interesting |
| 21:39.42 | GPSFan | that error is basically what I get if the z2 is "off", but plugged in. if it isn't plugged in I get lots of stuff about error validating JTAG sccan chain. |
| 21:41.10 | prpplague | GPSFan: i'm not familiar with this "loading miniIC |
| 21:41.12 | prpplague | stuff |
| 21:41.47 | prpplague | are you using a relatively new version of openocd? |
| 21:42.17 | GPSFan | that's the in-cache debugger for the xscale parts. It was neccessary in the nslu2 and openocd looks for it. |
| 21:42.25 | GPSFan | the one from the hammer |
| 21:42.59 | GPSFan | you said something about recent versions using a different script, |
| 21:43.02 | prpplague | ahh ok |
| 21:43.05 | prpplague | yea |
| 21:43.09 | prpplague | just wanted to make sure |
| 21:43.27 | g1powermac | jtag issues on the z2? |
| 21:43.34 | GPSFan | that's why my .cfg didn't work on newer versions. I trried svn 658 and svn 803. |
| 21:44.12 | prpplague | GPSFan: hmm, guess i'm going to have to find some time to test again with the jtag |
| 21:44.33 | GPSFan | prpplague: do you have your .cfg file handy? |
| 21:45.04 | prpplague | GPSFan: sorry no, i've got a ton of stuff going on at the momment |
| 21:45.09 | GPSFan | ok. |
| 21:45.35 | GPSFan | prpplague: thanks for the help. |
| 21:46.40 | prpplague | GPSFan: i'll see if can hook it up on monday and retest, no guarrantees though, i still have to finish this 8050 stuff asap |
| 21:47.38 | GPSFan | I wish someone else would try to hook up to the jtag port, I sort of feel all alone in the dark. |
| 21:48.24 | prpplague | GPSFan: yep, people who tread new ground always are |
| 21:48.50 | GPSFan | bdtd got the tee-shirt and the scars.... |
| 21:49.03 | prpplague | GPSFan: normally i'd be jumping on this, but i have this m8050 to do and the boss is pushing me very very hard on it |
| 21:49.29 | GPSFan | prpplague: understood. work (eating etc) should come first. |
| 21:49.54 | prpplague | heads home for the day |
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| 22:46.27 | g1powermac | Hey RobotGuy |
| 22:46.45 | RobotGuy | Hi. |
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| 22:57.36 | RobotGuy | It's still a kick seeing my Hammer boot Linux and start a web server. |
| 23:08.43 | prpplague | havng it boot up and then down free pr0n is better |
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| 23:09.26 | g1powermac | heh |
| 23:09.30 | CosmicPenguin | You can take the texan out of texas, but... |
| 23:09.57 | g1powermac | prpplague's brain always seems to be in the gutter ;-) |
| 23:12.09 | RobotGuy | Since I don't know which module in 2.6.26 supports my audio hardware, I'll just turn them all on. :) |
| 23:12.47 | RobotGuy | I can turn the ones off I don't need later. |
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| 23:14.58 | RobotGuy | Yeah, you have to watch those Texans.. |
| 23:15.04 | RobotGuy | ducks |
| 23:15.23 | RobotGuy | They have some really tall women down there. |
| 23:15.36 | RobotGuy | I'd need a ladder. |
| 23:15.45 | ds2 | sure they are women? ;) |
| 23:15.56 | RobotGuy | ds2: Go back to sleep. :P |
| 23:15.59 | prpplague | hm pidgin has a learnng curve :( |
| 23:15.59 | prpplague | RobotGuy: ??? |
| 23:16.18 | prpplague | RobotGuy: just make surre |
| 23:16.24 | RobotGuy | prpplague: Just teasing. I like tall women - no choice. |
| 23:16.32 | prpplague | you ask them to take out their chew before you kiss them |
| 23:16.40 | RobotGuy | Ha ha |
| 23:16.53 | RobotGuy | I'm about done with US women. |
| 23:16.59 | prpplague | amen |
| 23:17.14 | RobotGuy | Too many dang games. |
| 23:18.02 | prpplague | likes his new eeepc |
| 23:18.07 | RobotGuy | The packages look real inviting, but that should often set off a red flag. |
| 23:18.12 | RobotGuy | prpplague: Got picture? |
| 23:18.25 | prpplague | picture of what? |
| 23:18.37 | ds2 | prpplague: when are your mods going to be documented on elinux.org? |
| 23:18.37 | RobotGuy | The eeepc, silly. |
| 23:19.15 | prpplague | why would i have a pic of an eeepc? |
| 23:19.40 | RobotGuy | Doesn't every geek carry a picture of their eeepc with them at all times? |
| 23:19.52 | ds2 | and are you installing a touch screen on it? |
| 23:20.17 | prpplague | naw |
| 23:21.00 | prpplague | http://eeepc.asus.com/global/images/904.jpg |
| 23:21.19 | ds2 | prpplague: what made you settle on the eeePC? |
| 23:21.58 | prpplague | small, portable, linux, and low $$ |
| 23:22.14 | ds2 | the Linux WiBrain is not much more |
| 23:22.20 | RobotGuy | That must be pretty light. |
| 23:22.45 | prpplague | hard to beat $55 on ebay |
| 23:22.54 | ds2 | Oh it was a ebay special |
| 23:22.57 | ds2 | nevermind |
| 23:24.04 | RobotGuy | Why is it so difficult to figure out which sound driver handles given sound hardware? There used to be a module for my hardware but it seems to have disappeared in 2.6.26. |
| 23:24.10 | prpplague | i mainly got it to see what kind of stuff they had on it |
| 23:24.21 | prpplague | i want to make a sub $100 laptop |
| 23:24.31 | RobotGuy | prpplague: How does it look? |
| 23:24.34 | prpplague | using a s3c2410 |
| 23:24.35 | ds2 | with x86!? |
| 23:24.41 | ds2 | oh cool |
| 23:25.05 | RobotGuy | was hoping for a wee bit more oomph in the CPU. |
| 23:25.30 | RobotGuy | Like an S3C2440A |
| 23:25.31 | prpplague | RobotGuy: ?? |
| 23:25.43 | prpplague | oh for _my_ laptop |
| 23:26.13 | RobotGuy | I don't own a laptop. |
| 23:26.20 | RobotGuy | Just a lap. :P |
| 23:26.30 | prpplague | i would only have instructions for doing it, not selling it |
| 23:27.00 | ds2 | and have it powered by 2 lemons? |
| 23:27.10 | prpplague | 4 AA's |
| 23:27.21 | RobotGuy | Is it safe to just use a resistor to drop voltage to get down to 3.3V for 3.3V components? |
| 23:27.46 | ds2 | RobotGuy: in general, no. |
| 23:28.01 | ds2 | resistor drops depend on current draw and most digital components are not constant current draw devices |
| 23:28.25 | RobotGuy | Well, I only have ONE bread board power supply. |
| 23:28.37 | ds2 | RobotGuy: get a well behaved LDO |
| 23:28.48 | ds2 | or a LM317 |
| 23:28.59 | ds2 | I assume your power supply is 5V? |
| 23:29.25 | ds2 | prpplague: you have seen the solarumpc blog right? |
| 23:29.26 | RobotGuy | ds2: It's actually switchable, but I think it just uses a resistor to get down to 3.3V. It's from SFE. |
| 23:29.38 | prpplague | ds2: sorry now |
| 23:29.50 | ds2 | RobotGuy: got a link? |
| 23:30.08 | prpplague | that resistor is to control the divisor |
| 23:30.29 | ds2 | prpplague: the guy is mostly windows centric but his goals are interesting read - http://www.solar-umpc.com/ |
| 23:31.52 | RobotGuy | prpplague: http://www.sparkfun.com/commerce/product_info.php?products_id=114 |
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| 23:32.24 | ds2 | RobotGuy: that one is fine. it just reprograms the LM317 |
| 23:32.36 | RobotGuy | OK, thanks. |
| 23:32.45 | ds2 | it is not a voltage dropping resistor like you would use with a lightbulb |
| 23:32.53 | RobotGuy | I need to get another one then. |
| 23:32.57 | ds2 | or a tube :) |
| 23:33.30 | ds2 | it is linear so it'll probally run warm if you pull the full 1 amp |
| 23:33.45 | RobotGuy | That little bread board power supply is very nice, switchable between 5V and 3.3V |
| 23:33.57 | prpplague | hehe lots of wasted power |
| 23:34.22 | RobotGuy | I want to do some hardware tinkering, but want to use 3.3V and 5V components. |
| 23:34.54 | prpplague | the more you can use 3.3v parts the better off you are |
| 23:35.42 | RobotGuy | prpplague: Oh, I know, and I do have some 3.3V stuff and look for 3.3V stuff when I buy new parts now. I do have a 3.3V I2C compass and my BT module is 3.3V also. |
| 23:35.53 | ds2 | looks at his junk box and disagrees with prpplague |
| 23:36.16 | RobotGuy | prpplague: Does the Hammer have enough oomph to drive both those off its 3.3V output? |
| 23:36.55 | g1powermac | prpplague, so how do you like your eeepc? |
| 23:37.52 | RobotGuy | Oh, wait, I can pull both 3.3V and 5V right off my hammer carrier. |
| 23:39.57 | prpplague | g1powermac the keyboard is taking some getting used to |
| 23:40.33 | RobotGuy | Ahhhh, I see conveniently located tie points for +3.3V, +5V, and GND. :) |
| 23:40.47 | g1powermac | prpplague, what kind of ports does it have on it? |
| 23:41.11 | ds2 | sees the magic smoke in the hammer carrier waving signs for RobotGuy to let them out ;) |
| 23:44.13 | RobotGuy | ~lart ds2 |
| 23:44.13 | purl | explains, ever so gently, that if ds2 doesn't give the channel more information, they can't help |
| 23:44.26 | RobotGuy | Dang, no violence. :P |
| 23:44.29 | g1powermac | heh, now it isn't violent |
| 23:44.37 | RobotGuy | Bad timing! |
| 23:46.18 | RobotGuy | Rebooting |
| 23:50.18 | prpplague | g1powermac dual usb, audio, vga, ethernet, mc,sd |
| 23:50.30 | g1powermac | meh, k |
| 23:50.44 | g1powermac | wonders why some sites listed a firewire port on the thing. . . |
| 23:51.16 | prpplague | i like for around the house |
| 23:51.29 | prpplague | g1powermac different versions |
| 23:51.36 | prpplague | i gotta cheapy |
| 23:51.40 | g1powermac | is there a version with firewire? |
| 23:51.50 | g1powermac | hates asus's website |
| 23:51.58 | g1powermac | I get no specific info on each version |
| 23:52.18 | prpplague | sorry i don't know |
| 23:55.52 | g1powermac | heh, amazing, people have hacked mac os x onto the eeepc |
| 23:57.38 | prpplague | so far i really like it |
| 23:57.49 | ds2 | like it enough to use it as your dev machine? |
| 23:58.03 | prpplague | it reminds me of the libretto but with a little better keyboard |
| 23:58.16 | prpplague | ds2: uh no, its for home |
| 23:58.32 | prpplague | load my music on it and video clips |
| 23:58.42 | prpplague | irc from |
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| 23:58.49 | prpplague | check my bank account] |
| 23:58.51 | ds2 | the size is about right for a mobile dev platform |
| 23:58.58 | prpplague | download pr0n |
| 23:59.00 | ds2 | though the cloudbook is better for storage |
