| 00:05.09 | g1powermac | RobotGuy, got anywhere with the audio? |
| 00:07.22 | RobotGuy | g1powermac: No, apparently not. |
| 00:11.16 | RobotGuy | With the ALSA stuff being in the kernel mainline, I shouldn't need alsa-driver, right? |
| 00:12.11 | g1powermac | huh, this is a scary quote: "The state must declare the child to be the most precious treasure of the people. As long as the government is perceived as working for the benefit of the children, the people will happily endure almost any curtailment of liberty and almost any deprivation." --Adolph Hitler |
| 00:12.22 | ds2 | Hmmm someone at bgmicro doesn't know how to count |
| 00:12.58 | ds2 | GSM-Tri band GSM 850/900/1800/1900 MHz |
| 00:13.04 | ds2 | last I checked Tri == 3 |
| 00:13.12 | g1powermac | heh |
| 00:13.57 | RobotGuy | gives ds2 a cookie for not being a no account. |
| 00:14.18 | g1powermac | ds2, gotta link to that module? |
| 00:14.34 | RobotGuy | I was just going to ask that.. |
| 00:14.35 | ds2 | http://www.bgmicro.com/index.asp?PageAction=VIEWPROD&ProdID=12862 |
| 00:14.56 | ds2 | this is a combo antenna |
| 00:15.33 | g1powermac | ahh, nice |
| 00:16.07 | ds2 | I don't like the connectors on it |
| 00:16.16 | ds2 | TNC isn't that common for GSM |
| 00:16.57 | RobotGuy | g1powermac: I think I may have found my audio proboem. |
| 00:17.07 | ds2 | volume set to 0? ;) |
| 00:17.15 | RobotGuy | s/proboem/problem/ |
| 00:17.41 | RobotGuy | ds2: Ummm, no, not quite that easy. My kernel had module versioning turned on and I didn't realize it. |
| 00:17.51 | ds2 | ah |
| 00:18.06 | ds2 | RobotGuy: the volume thing seems to be pretty common |
| 00:18.11 | RobotGuy | That should NOT be turned on by default. |
| 00:18.15 | g1powermac | RobotGuy, ahh |
| 00:18.21 | RobotGuy | ds2: It's the first thing I check these days. |
| 00:18.25 | RobotGuy | Or all muted |
| 00:18.31 | RobotGuy | Same thing in some cases. |
| 00:18.33 | ds2 | heh |
| 00:19.04 | ds2 | anyone know if it is safe to parallel Li Ion for charging purposes? |
| 00:19.34 | g1powermac | heh, try it and see what happens |
| 00:19.40 | g1powermac | make sure you film it though :-) |
| 00:19.59 | RobotGuy | And please be make sure you are behind a shield. |
| 00:20.26 | g1powermac | heck nah, that adds to the dramatic appeal of exploding Li Ion :-) |
| 00:20.31 | ds2 | :P |
| 00:23.02 | RobotGuy | Did Intel assimilate SIS audio stuff? |
| 00:24.31 | RobotGuy | Sometimes, as I look at all the stuff that's in the kernel, I wonder if all of it really should be there. |
| 00:34.50 | RobotGuy | is glad he isn't in Dallas |
| 00:35.45 | RobotGuy | <_WALTER_> Clear , 96.8 (36), 29.89in (1009mb), Moderate breeze 11kt () - KDFW 18:53, 2353Z |
| 00:45.29 | g1powermac | kewl, got my boom microphone stands in today |
| 00:46.04 | RobotGuy | Microphones are input devices. They should not go boom. :) |
| 00:46.33 | ds2 | using microphones on things that go boom is very interesting |
| 00:46.43 | g1powermac | they don't, its a style of stand called a boom :-) |
| 00:46.55 | RobotGuy | knows that |
| 00:47.28 | g1powermac | my two look almost identical to this one: http://www.red5audio.com/acatalog/large-stand.gif |
| 00:55.06 | RobotGuy | I had forgotten how long it takes to build a kernel when everything needs to be built. |
| 00:57.45 | g1powermac | *sigh* my gallbladder is sore tonight |
| 00:58.08 | g1powermac | I hope this doesn't turn into a gallstone attack in the middle of the night |
| 00:58.30 | ds2 | what exactly is the gall bladder for? I know it generates bile but? |
| 00:59.02 | g1powermac | it basically collects bile from the liver, concentrates it, and pumps it back out to the small intestine when you eat food |
| 01:00.02 | ds2 | and what happens if one does not have one? they seems to be removed rather casually |
| 01:00.36 | g1powermac | your liver always produces bile, so without the gallbladder the unconcentrated bile keeps emptying into the intestine |
| 01:00.53 | ds2 | I see, is that bad? |
| 01:01.28 | g1powermac | its not great for some, it can cause chronic diarrhea in a small portion of people who had their gallbladder removed |
| 01:01.39 | ds2 | hmmm |
| 01:02.24 | g1powermac | however, leaving the gallbladder in, especially one that is causing blockages (ie elevated liver enzymes), can cause major problems |
| 01:02.54 | ds2 | so removing the gallbladder requirings replumbing to reroute the bile? |
| 01:03.01 | g1powermac | especially if a gallstone gets stuck right at the point the common bile duct enters the small intestine |
| 01:03.26 | g1powermac | that can cause pancreatitis, which is deadly |
| 01:03.54 | g1powermac | not really, the gallbladder sits off the main bile ducts |
| 01:04.21 | g1powermac | it just collects some of the bile flow and reuses the same ducts to pump the bile back out |
| 01:05.39 | g1powermac | goes searching for a good diagram |
| 01:06.27 | g1powermac | this works: http://images.emedicinehealth.com/images/eMedicineHealth/illustrations/gallstones.jpg |
| 01:07.26 | g1powermac | most common blockage is when a stone gets lodged in the cystic duct, which is what causes the so called 'gallstone attack' |
| 01:07.50 | g1powermac | which is severe pain usually right below the chest bone or off to the right side |
| 01:09.37 | g1powermac | eventually the stone will pass relieving the pain |
| 01:10.12 | ds2 | pass to where? the intestines? |
| 01:10.15 | g1powermac | yup |
| 01:11.36 | g1powermac | and sadly there isn't too much that can be done except via surgery |
| 01:12.25 | g1powermac | there's one drug that can help dissolve the stones over time, but it takes a while |
| 01:13.15 | g1powermac | and there's no guarantee it'll work, as it won't work on any other gallstone that isn't made from cholesterol, which is about 20% of them |
| 01:15.19 | ds2 | didn't know you can get stones made of cholestrols... isn't that more of a wax ball? |
| 01:16.40 | solar | RobotGuy: you ever get that sound working? |
| 01:16.45 | RobotGuy | Yay, kernel finished compiling |
| 01:16.55 | RobotGuy | solar: No, not yet. That's what I am working on now. |
| 01:17.00 | g1powermac | ds2, yup, pretty much |
| 01:17.06 | solar | RobotGuy: in case you have not seen it. http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/alsa-guide.xml |
| 01:17.22 | g1powermac | ds2, thats why they can't use that ultrasound therapy they use on kidney stones |
| 01:17.32 | ds2 | ah |
| 01:17.38 | g1powermac | ds2, they're just too soft to have any affect |
| 01:17.55 | ds2 | could they do a concentrated/focused microwave beam ? |
| 01:18.05 | RobotGuy | solar: Ahh, thanks. I had not seen that. Was just going looking for info. |
| 01:18.34 | g1powermac | heh, not sure, it maybe a bit dangerous, especially with the vital organs all around the gallbladder |
| 01:19.05 | ds2 | Hmm |
| 01:19.21 | RobotGuy | I've manually configured ALSA before, but it is been a LONG time ago. |
| 01:19.28 | g1powermac | ds2, they do use a scope shoved down your throat to get stones out of the common bile duct |
| 01:19.43 | RobotGuy | hides from all the medical stuff |
| 01:19.48 | g1powermac | thats always a fun procedure |
| 01:20.21 | solar | whoever posted the link to something at dealextreme.com today. I hate/love you. My shopping cart is riduculus full now. |
| 01:20.44 | g1powermac | my mom had a similar procedure (though not gallstone related) back 15 years ago when the scope they used was about the thickness of a garden hose. . . |
| 01:20.55 | g1powermac | she bit the doctor |
| 01:21.03 | RobotGuy | solar: Finding new toys? Which ones? |
| 01:21.28 | g1powermac | then the doc really drugged her up :-) |
| 01:21.29 | RobotGuy | No offense, but could ya please take the medical stuff private or to another channel? :) |
| 01:21.56 | g1powermac | meh, I'm about done anyway |
| 01:24.12 | solar | RobotGuy: http://rafb.net/p/gyQzrH78.html |
| 01:26.18 | ds2 | hehheheheh |
| 01:26.34 | RobotGuy | solar: Those MG995 servos have been known to be propelms. Sometimes they are good and other times they are just a waste of money. |
| 01:27.40 | solar | k |
| 01:28.26 | RobotGuy | Just wanted to let you know. If they are just for tinkering, they may be alright. I only buy Hitec, even though they are more expensive. |
| 01:29.13 | RobotGuy | I quiver a the thought of the servos I am going to need for the arm on W.A.L.T.E.R. eventually. |
| 01:30.27 | RobotGuy | Probably these: http://www.lynxmotion.com/Product.aspx?productID=575&CategoryID=38 |
| 01:31.00 | g1powermac | solar, hah |
| 01:31.12 | RobotGuy | Rebooting |
| 01:31.46 | g1powermac | could spend sooo much money the second I get such money ;-) |
| 01:33.25 | solar | RobotGuy: yeah the one you use/want are overkill for me. I've never played with any servo's and the ones on dx looked cheap enough to exp with. |
| 01:34.07 | chouimat | hi |
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| 01:41.02 | solar | arghh. I just spent the last few hrs on that site. Now I'm ready to checkout and I see it's paypal only. ;/ |
| 01:41.25 | ds2 | they take CC's through paypal w/o an account |
| 01:42.20 | solar | that the express co thing? |
| 01:42.55 | ds2 | no the other one I think |
| 01:43.03 | solar | and pp wont keep your CC on record? Which would be the goal cuz everybody knows how great they have been with security over the years. |
| 01:43.09 | chouimat | found what is missing from guitar heroes ... a duel against Les Claypool :) |
| 01:43.18 | ds2 | they haven't so far |
| 01:43.30 | ds2 | just don't sign up for an account |
| 01:43.42 | ds2 | paypal is just another credit card processor |
| 01:44.03 | RobotGuy | ds2: They are a little bit more than that. |
| 01:44.18 | ds2 | RobotGuy: for this, that is all they are doing |
| 01:46.55 | RobotGuy | rebuilds kernel again. |
| 01:48.31 | chouimat | g1powermac hmmm |
| 01:48.34 | chouimat | <PROTECTED> |
| 01:48.34 | chouimat | Mem: 9966 9899 66 0 0 7752 |
| 01:48.42 | g1powermac | hah |
| 01:49.18 | chouimat | g1powermac it's the lowest it went so far |
| 01:49.28 | RobotGuy | Reboot |
| 01:50.00 | g1powermac | chouimat, what do ya got running? don't tell me firefox 2 ;-) |
| 01:50.02 | chouimat | g1powermac and btw it's from free -m |
| 01:50.13 | chouimat | ff3 |
| 01:50.38 | chouimat | amarok is using 530M |
| 01:50.41 | g1powermac | ff3 is using that much ram?! |
| 01:50.44 | g1powermac | ahh |
| 01:51.09 | g1powermac | gah, I wish I could find this site I found about a year ago. . . |
| 01:51.54 | chouimat | what is .my ? |
| 01:51.58 | solar | ds2: thanks |
| 01:56.34 | g1powermac | yay, finally found the site |
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| 02:01.04 | RobotGuy | Well, I got rid of one audio related error. Still no sound though. |
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| 02:06.00 | ds2 | .my == malaysia |
| 02:09.08 | g1powermac | might now take a stab at making a 35mm again |
| 02:10.29 | solar | RobotGuy: and you un-muted the devices? |
| 02:11.42 | RobotGuy | solar: Yes. I think I found the probolem - no plugins compiled into alsa-lib. |
| 02:11.57 | RobotGuy | problem even |
| 02:12.07 | RobotGuy | I am correcting that now. |
| 02:13.44 | RobotGuy | I remember really enjoying taking pictures, and I edit my own videos too. |
| 02:14.38 | RobotGuy | I would still like to setup my own small recording studio someday. I don't think I have the "ear" for sound anymore though. :( |
| 02:15.00 | RobotGuy | Maybe there is a change my hearing can be corrected though. |
| 02:15.15 | RobotGuy | chance |
| 02:16.07 | g1powermac | has pretty decent hearing, though limited sense of smell |
| 02:16.43 | g1powermac | had a bad cold a year or so go and for about a week after the worst of the cold I completely lost my sense of smell |
| 02:16.49 | g1powermac | it was the weirdest thing |
| 02:17.22 | g1powermac | and because most of your taste is tied to smells, I couldn't really taste anything either |
| 02:17.55 | RobotGuy | Hmmmm, still no sound. |
| 02:18.34 | g1powermac | it eventually came back, though not as good as what it use to be |
| 02:18.37 | RobotGuy | sighs |
| 02:19.36 | g1powermac | still remembers not being able to smell the burnt food my mom made one night. . . |
| 02:19.50 | g1powermac | could literally see the smoke, but not be able to smell one bit of it |
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| 16:04.51 | prpplague | ho ho hum |
| 16:10.59 | chouimat | morning |
| 16:13.56 | prpplague | yep it is |
| 16:14.15 | g1powermac | just past morning here :-) |
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| 16:15.03 | chouimat | it's 12:14 here |
| 16:15.13 | g1powermac | yup, same here |
| 16:15.28 | g1powermac | well, 12:17 according to my imacs clock. . .hmm |
| 16:15.55 | g1powermac | doh, didn't have it set to sink with the time servers |
| 16:18.16 | chouimat | so fun http://fun.from.hell.pl/2003-11-24/bubblewrap.swf |
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| 16:57.54 | g1powermac | morning RobotGuy |
| 16:58.42 | RobotGuy | G'Morning |
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| 18:08.35 | chouimat | g1powermac http://bobrost.com/nes/ |
| 18:27.01 | g1powermac | heh cool |
| 18:33.24 | joe_bleau | prpplague: ping |
| 18:41.16 | prpplague | joe_bleau: pong |
| 18:45.24 | joe_bleau | Hey, I've been hacking a new device and wanted your opinion if it would be ok to place details on the elinux wiki |
| 18:45.34 | prpplague | sure |
| 18:45.40 | prpplague | what device? |
| 18:45.41 | joe_bleau | Thing is, it's never gonna run Linux. |
| 18:46.05 | joe_bleau | Based on an AT91SAM7L128, so arm7tdmi, 128k flash, 12k ram. |
| 18:46.06 | prpplague | give me some details |
| 18:46.27 | joe_bleau | Cheap--$40. Includes display, batteries, and keypad. |
| 18:46.38 | prpplague | yea go ahead and doc it on there |
| 18:46.38 | joe_bleau | Hewlett Packard's new calculator, the HP-20B. |
| 18:46.51 | prpplague | might be a good source of parts for other projects |
| 18:46.57 | prpplague | ahh cool |
| 18:47.01 | joe_bleau | Cool thing is the designer left the JTAG pads on there, some other pads for GPIO and analog input. |
| 18:47.03 | prpplague | indeed doc it on the wiki |
| 18:47.26 | joe_bleau | Oh, and a spot for the MAX3232 and friends. |
| 18:47.38 | joe_bleau | You have to open it up to access the JTAG or the board. |
| 18:48.23 | joe_bleau | But there's a 6 pin SAM-BA programming port available by opening the battery door. |
| 18:48.23 | joe_bleau | I'm pretty excited about it. |
| 18:48.57 | prpplague | would make a nice inout/output device for the hammer and friends |
| 18:50.00 | solar | ran out of fun things to do with the nail. so some new/fresh inspiration might be good. |
| 18:50.06 | joe_bleau | Sure, the 6 pin connector gets you 3V power, ground, reset, and logic level tx/rx. |
| 18:50.47 | prpplague | oh cool |
| 18:50.52 | prpplague | that would be perfect |
| 18:51.00 | joe_bleau | The LCD contains a small dot matrix area and a full 7 segment area. |
| 18:51.14 | joe_bleau | 400 dots all in, I think. (Limited by the micro's LCD controller.) |
| 18:51.50 | prpplague | nice |
| 18:51.53 | prpplague | doc it |
| 18:51.55 | RobotGuy | solar: Robots are fun. :) Nail powered rover. :) |
| 18:52.22 | joe_bleau | I've already got the JTAG working, dumped the flash, and started figuring out the LCD mapping. |
| 18:52.43 | solar | RobotGuy: I was thinking more of a nail + nslu2 |
| 18:52.56 | prpplague | that sounds great, if you can write up a remote app for the serial port you code control the keyboard and lcd |
| 18:53.12 | joe_bleau | Any guidelines on acceptable disk usage? The board pics are >2MB and I don't want to cause any problems. |
| 18:53.33 | joe_bleau | Obviously, the flash image will *not* be posted. |
| 18:53.43 | RobotGuy | solar: Hmmmmm. You could turn a Nail into a nice little wireless roving access point. |
| 18:53.44 | solar | legal reasons? |
| 18:54.17 | solar | RobotGuy: not afaik. No master mode 3 with usb wireless devices. |
| 18:54.23 | prpplague | joe_bleau: shoud be fine |
| 18:54.28 | solar | RobotGuy: unless you know otherwise |
| 18:54.31 | prpplague | joe_bleau: on the file size that is |
| 18:54.39 | prpplague | joe_bleau: yea right no copy of the flash |
| 18:54.58 | prpplague | joe_bleau: but anything you generate yourself you can post |
| 18:55.17 | joe_bleau | Precisely. Not looking for trouble, and since the designer is aware of the activity, I don't expect any problems. |
| 18:55.46 | RobotGuy | solar: Nail can work fine with a USB WiFi dongle. I just need a new WiFi router to complete testing. I've had mine scan for WiFi nodes and found 5 near me. |
| 18:56.01 | joe_bleau | Thanks! I wasn't too concerned, but since it wouldn't run Linux, thought I should check first anyway. |
| 18:56.18 | solar | RobotGuy: being a client is easy. try being the AP itself |
| 18:57.02 | prpplague | yea ap is much more difficult |
| 18:57.11 | RobotGuy | solar: I think you just need the right software. There is a driver for Prism adapters to be an AP. |
| 18:58.11 | solar | does not think they work via USB |
| 18:58.58 | prpplague | some of the libertas has the AP support these days, but i've not looked into it |
| 18:59.34 | prpplague | i'd really like to see the wi2wi chipset for the hammer |
| 18:59.50 | prpplague | that'd give both 802.11g and BT |
| 19:00.45 | prpplague | has a ton of work to do next week |
| 19:00.47 | solar | RobotGuy: quick test. iwconfig $name mode master;iwpriv $name mode 3 |
| 19:01.00 | prpplague | trying to decide if i want to move up to the 2.6.26 kernel for the m8050 |
| 19:01.11 | solar | whats the m8050 again? |
| 19:01.26 | prpplague | http://www.elinux.org/M8050 |
| 19:02.53 | prpplague | got about 90% of the drivers working |
| 19:03.10 | prpplague | last 10% always takes the longest |
| 19:03.20 | wmat | prpplague: could you have found a bigger image of the 8050? |
| 19:05.24 | prpplague | hehe, sorry i never got around to scaling it |
| 19:05.46 | wmat | heh, no problem, i just thought it was funny |
| 19:06.10 | wmat | btw, i have the go ahead for git.elinux.org |
| 19:06.20 | wmat | the dns is ready to go, i just haven't set it up yet |
| 19:06.20 | prpplague | yea, and i _always_ get people that complain about it running wince when its just a screen shot from the ME |
| 19:06.28 | prpplague | wmat: good deal |
| 19:06.46 | prpplague | wmat: how will we restrict commits? |
| 19:06.59 | wmat | haven't thought that far ahead yet |
| 19:07.16 | prpplague | ahh ok, just as long as it isn't completely open |
| 19:07.35 | prpplague | has to go to corner grocery store |
| 19:07.37 | prpplague | bbiaf |
| 19:07.38 | RobotGuy | solar: Master mode doesn't work with my USB WiFi adapter. |
| 19:08.38 | g1powermac | joe_bleau, that sounds like a neat device |
| 19:11.38 | joe_bleau | g1powermac: yeah, for hacking. Not the best calc. Buttons are awful mushy relative to what HP fans expect. |
| 19:12.17 | joe_bleau | Look at it as a $40 at91sam toy with keys and LCD, and things aren't so bad. |
| 19:14.20 | g1powermac | yea |
| 19:14.34 | g1powermac | thats why I bought the z2 a while back |
| 19:15.11 | g1powermac | for $150 (at the time) you got a wireless ultra mini linux powered system |
| 19:15.34 | g1powermac | now its even better at $50 (if you don't go through with their subscription service) |
| 19:16.12 | RobotGuy | solar: I'd put an inexpensive WiFi AP on a rover. :) |
| 19:16.50 | g1powermac | had made an wifi AP a long time ago using a pcmcia wavelan card |
| 19:17.02 | joe_bleau | Yeah, I'm debating getting a Z2 myself, now that they're really cheap. |
| 19:17.03 | g1powermac | at least I think I got the AP part working. . . |
| 19:17.10 | joe_bleau | later, gotta run. Thanks! |
| 19:17.16 | g1powermac | cya |
| 19:18.41 | g1powermac | still got the wavelan card, I wish it would do WPA, I'd use it for something |
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| 19:56.49 | prpplague | hohohum |
| 20:01.46 | GPSFan | prpplague: allegedly the new 3g iPhone uses the Marvell 8686... http://www.ifixit.com/Guide/First-Look/iPhone3G/images/6pp5MISgVfdarIV1-large.jpg |
| 20:02.10 | prpplague | oh yea? |
| 20:02.43 | prpplague | interesting |
| 20:03.46 | GPSFan | I haven't seen a picture of the chip on the board, just what I posted, and some references to it in the trade press. |
| 20:05.20 | prpplague | i'm sure its sdio interface |
| 20:05.29 | prpplague | i doubt they would have used spi |
| 20:06.35 | GPSFan | hard to tell, probably one of the iPhone jailbreaker devs might know. |
| 20:10.31 | prpplague | i just find the iphone very interesting |
| 20:11.55 | prpplague | i/don't |
| 20:13.37 | GPSFan | just thought you might be interested in another place that the 8686 is used. |
| 20:32.51 | RobotGuy | I have a 13 MB JFFS2 image now and still need to add two more packages. |
| 20:33.20 | RobotGuy | Once I get this networked, I can remove a couple packages though. |
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| 21:27.56 | GPSFan | g1powermac: got the jtag working on the z2, at least to the point that I can probe the flash. ;>) |
| 21:36.19 | GPSFan | and step !! |
| 22:25.32 | g1powermac | GPSFan, nice |
| 22:25.41 | g1powermac | GPSFan, what did you have to do? |
| 22:28.46 | GPSFan | several things, first it needed nSRST connected to the little reset button, then I used the latest openocd (svn 838) and the latest ftdi libs (v 0.4.13) and |
| 22:29.51 | GPSFan | I realized that when the little reset button is pushed the processor resets and runs for a while, setting stuff up then it goes to sleep and waits for the power button to be pushed. |
| 22:30.33 | GPSFan | so to get jtag working all you do is plug in the power adapter and start up openocd. |
| 22:30.36 | g1powermac | yea |
| 22:30.41 | GPSFan | don't power on the z2 |
| 22:30.55 | g1powermac | cool, thats simple enough |
| 22:31.13 | GPSFan | I can step through the early stages of blob setting up the gpio's |
| 22:31.36 | g1powermac | nice, now you should be able to figure out the blob problem |
| 22:31.59 | g1powermac | one day I'll get my replacement zipit and join the fun :-) |
| 22:32.04 | GPSFan | yep, and figure out how to do the same with apex |
| 22:32.50 | GPSFan | with my setup now I should be able to reflash if neccessary. |
| 22:33.05 | g1powermac | of course now I'm back to doing some artistic stuff with my filming equipment |
| 22:33.14 | g1powermac | has tooo many interests |
| 22:33.28 | GPSFan | indeed, don't we all. |
| 22:33.52 | g1powermac | the problem is sticking with one so I can make some money off of it |
| 22:34.38 | g1powermac | I never stick with it long enough before jumping back to another project |
| 22:34.56 | GPSFan | when the processor goes to sleep, it shuts off much of it's VCC's |
| 22:38.39 | g1powermac | would like to build his 35mm adapter one day. . .though it won't be what I planned originally which wasn't really going to work |
| 22:40.34 | g1powermac | if anyone here is into optics, I got a really nice roof pentaprism for $50 |
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| 23:30.28 | g1powermac_PB | heya prpplague |
| 23:33.22 | prpplague | hey hey |
| 23:33.28 | prpplague | whats cookin |
| 23:33.48 | g1powermac_PB | trying to find someone who wants to buy some optics I have :-) |
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| 23:40.19 | GPSFan | prpplague: hey hey.. I got the z2 jtag working... ;>) |
| 23:45.06 | prpplague | GPSFan congrads |
| 23:45.13 | prpplague | GPSFan what was the issue? |
| 23:45.13 | GPSFan | several things, first it needed nSRST connected to the little reset button, then I used the latest openocd (svn 838) and the latest ftdi libs (v 0.4.13) and |
| 23:45.21 | GPSFan | I realized that when the little reset button is pushed the processor resets and runs for a while, setting stuff up then it goes to sleep and waits for the power button to be pushed. |
| 23:45.36 | prpplague | ah ha |
| 23:45.41 | GPSFan | I can step through the early stages of blob setting up the gpio's |
| 23:45.48 | prpplague | cool cool |
| 23:45.49 | GPSFan | when the processor goes to sleep, it shuts off much of it's VCC's |
| 23:45.59 | prpplague | nice find |
| 23:46.02 | prpplague | congrads |
| 23:46.22 | GPSFan | I can step through the early stages of blob setting up the gpio's |
| 23:46.43 | GPSFan | I can probe the flash |
| 23:46.48 | prpplague | what about the flash? |
| 23:46.50 | prpplague | hehe |
| 23:46.58 | GPSFan | I'm writing up a simple how to for the wiki |
| 23:47.19 | prpplague | great |
| 23:47.45 | prpplague | GPSFan perfect example how open source code and thinking comes together for greater knowledge |
| 23:48.05 | g1powermac_PB | yup |
| 23:48.23 | prpplague | g1powermac provided the board, i got the pinouts, GPSFan got the code working |
| 23:48.23 | GPSFan | yeah, it was really figuring out that the reset button really did reset it, but the early code in blob executed and thew put the proc to sleep shutting off the main vcc. |
| 23:49.15 | GPSFan | so if you turned it on, it was way beyond where the jtag could halt it without a hard reset. |
| 23:49.45 | prpplague | great find |
| 23:50.00 | prpplague | gives a round of applause and respect for GPSFan |
| 23:50.35 | GPSFan | prpplague: if you ever do a new rev of the flyswatter, it might be nice to have a set of pullups that could be wired to the jtag pins. |
| 23:50.40 | GPSFan | bows |
| 23:51.46 | prpplague | GPSFan so it did require the pullups? |
| 23:52.09 | GPSFan | also how a distributed community can work together towards a common goal |
| 23:52.45 | prpplague | GPSFan we have a new rev of the board, but we weren't planning to spin it until we finished selling the ones we have |
| 23:52.47 | GPSFan | I don't know about the pullups they are soldered onto the flyswatter, and it works. it might work without them but I'll leave them for now. |
| 23:53.10 | prpplague | okie dokie we can test later |
| 23:53.15 | GPSFan | it's kind of ugly, but effective. |
| 23:53.37 | GPSFan | cul, gotta go off to a dinner meeting... |
| 23:53.42 | prpplague | the next rev of the flyswatter will have ttl level uart available and some additional power points |
| 23:53.44 | g1powermac_PB | I'll test it without the pullups when I get the replacement zipit |
| 23:53.47 | prpplague | GPSFan later and congrads |
| 23:54.58 | prpplague | i was feeling pretty down today, but GPSFan's news has cheered me up |
| 23:55.23 | g1powermac_PB | thats cool :-) |
| 23:55.33 | g1powermac_PB | wishes he felt better |
| 23:55.49 | g1powermac_PB | the thought of inevitable surgery just isn't making me happy . . . |
| 23:56.02 | GPSFan | hands prpplague a nice cold beer |
| 23:56.34 | prpplague | thanks |
