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| 06:30.57 | methril | morning |
| 06:30.58 | methril | yo |
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| 07:27.00 | [AD]Turbo | hola |
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| 13:56.53 | GPSFan | prpplague: g'day.. I added a bit on the flyswatter wiki page about how to get the z2 running. |
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| 14:17.48 | prpplague | GPSFan: thanks |
| 14:19.28 | prpplague | GPSFan: i was acutally just looking at it |
| 14:19.43 | prpplague | GPSFan: i wish g1powermac had done his z2 docs on the elinux wiki |
| 14:20.47 | prpplague | GPSFan: only thing i had was changing the telnet port as we've been using 4444 for a long time |
| 14:21.40 | g1powermac_PB | prpplague: I'll prolly mirror my page on the elinux wiki one day |
| 14:22.02 | chouimat|work | morning |
| 14:22.52 | prpplague | chouimat|work: greetings |
| 14:24.09 | GPSFan | prpplague: that's ok. it was just what was in the pxa270 cfg file I found it's no matter to me what port it is. |
| 14:25.30 | prpplague | GPSFan: yea, i think the openocd gang is changing it to add the tcl port |
| 14:27.15 | GPSFan | the latest version of openocd wanted the tcl port defined, so I put it at 6666. I think that was from a .cfg I saw on their ML or somesuch.. |
| 14:28.17 | GPSFan | I'v just used it with telnet, and still have to figure out how to set up the SDRAM controller. |
| 14:29.08 | chouimat|work | spent a very good weekend playing Conan for PS3 :) |
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| 14:57.33 | prpplague | anyone use glade to do gtk apps? |
| 14:58.39 | sjhill | nah, it leaves dust and residue behind |
| 14:59.03 | CosmicPenguin | I give that a 4 |
| 14:59.15 | CosmicPenguin | good pun potential, fell down a little bit in the delivery |
| 14:59.31 | sjhill | :) |
| 15:00.27 | prpplague | hehe |
| 15:00.57 | prpplague | doesn't like doing userland |
| 15:04.05 | sjhill | you and me both |
| 15:06.10 | CosmicPenguin | me three |
| 15:09.30 | prpplague | gotta make a gtk app to configure options for barcode scanner and magstripe reader |
| 15:09.31 | prpplague | :( |
| 15:09.42 | prpplague | and a data viewer for both |
| 15:12.07 | CosmicPenguin | ncurses works well |
| 15:14.41 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: yea, i don;t think the boss would be too happy with an ncurses app |
| 15:15.01 | CosmicPenguin | thats silly |
| 15:15.18 | CosmicPenguin | a well made ncurses apps has to beat out a poorly designed gtk app |
| 15:19.34 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: i've only ever used ncurses with char based stuff |
| 15:20.00 | CosmicPenguin | nice, my firefox print is segfaulting |
| 15:22.18 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: ncurses have some features for using under x? |
| 15:22.42 | CosmicPenguin | no |
| 15:22.51 | prpplague | ahh i didn't think so |
| 15:22.54 | CosmicPenguin | its all text, but you can use it in an terminal window, of course |
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| 15:25.53 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: yea, thing is we are looking to distinguish this device from the older ones that use all text, so the boss is going to want some gui fluff |
| 15:26.21 | prpplague | guess i'm going have to have a crash course in gtk programming |
| 15:26.29 | CosmicPenguin | ugh |
| 15:29.33 | prpplague | indeed |
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| 15:30.31 | CosmicPenguin | what doesn't kill you, I guess |
| 15:30.32 | Mr_Bonga | hi |
| 15:31.17 | Mr_Bonga | can anyone help me implement a traffic shaping on a linux montavista with an arm 9 processor |
| 15:31.18 | Mr_Bonga | ??? |
| 15:32.11 | CosmicPenguin | brb - rebooting for fun and profit |
| 15:32.22 | prpplague | Mr_Bonga: think thats a little beyond the scope of this channel |
| 15:32.59 | Mr_Bonga | :\ |
| 15:42.16 | prpplague | ho ho hum |
| 15:42.28 | prpplague | this is going to take much longer than i want :( |
| 15:43.24 | adyer | maybe you could whack something together using the tcl or python gtk bindings |
| 15:45.31 | chouimat|work | make sense |
| 15:47.33 | prpplague | just as much work for me, since i've not done userland in a while |
| 15:48.17 | prpplague | just have to scrounge around for some good gtk+ examples |
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| 16:18.07 | prpplague | ho ho hum |
| 16:44.24 | prpplague | hmm, can't seem to find any good examples of using inputstreams with gtk |
| 16:51.21 | g1powermac_PB | cries |
| 16:51.42 | g1powermac_PB | everytime I try to fix this botched up phone cable splice another connection fails |
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| 17:10.19 | sjhill | g1powermac_PB: i never have that problem with my tin cans and string |
| 17:10.46 | g1powermac_PB | hehe |
| 17:11.09 | g1powermac_PB | blames the cheap phone cables that keep snapping |
| 17:14.57 | adyer | prpplague: did you try looking at src for gnome apps that monitor a process (gnome-system-log, gnome-system-monitor)? |
| 17:15.48 | prpplague | adyer: yea, i finally found some examples, my problem was i was searching for GTK portions and the i/o stuff is on the lower layer gdk stuff |
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| 17:35.27 | prpplague | well 3.5 hours isn't too bad |
| 17:36.48 | prpplague | now to see if i can cross compile it |
| 17:39.37 | chouimat|work | gives prpplague the stuff he needs for the required sacrifice :) |
| 17:39.45 | prpplague | hehe |
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| 17:46.42 | sunrunner20 | any of ya'll know of a switch manufacture w/ a "H" logo? |
| 17:49.46 | adyer | network switch or electrical component switch? |
| 17:56.57 | sunrunner20 | electrical component |
| 17:57.14 | sunrunner20 | trying to find a replacment part |
| 17:58.18 | prpplague | hitachi uses a funky H sometimes |
| 17:59.44 | sunrunner20 | tactile switches btw |
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| 18:15.01 | adyer | sunrunner20: if the unit was made offshore, chances are you'll never find the mfg. Try digikey to see if you can find something close |
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| 18:26.10 | prpplague | ho ho hum |
| 18:26.21 | prpplague | waits for poky to boot |
| 18:27.29 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: still haven't figured out how to tweak the dialog boxes for the sato engine |
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| 18:43.39 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: where does the networkmanager applet read its configs from? |
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| 19:03.20 | CosmicPenguin | prpplague: not sure |
| 19:03.43 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: it appears it is strictly thru hald and dbus |
| 19:06.35 | MothaWork | oh boy, hald and dbus! |
| 19:06.42 | MothaWork | the two worst IPC mechanisms I've seen in ages |
| 19:06.51 | MothaWork | I think CORBA might be better... |
| 19:07.38 | CosmicPenguin | Now, now - you don't mean that |
| 19:07.59 | MothaWork | CORBA stuff seemed to at least crash less |
| 19:08.46 | ds2 | ewwwwwwwwwww |
| 19:09.38 | chouimat|work | MothaWork: stop spreading heresy ;) |
| 19:09.48 | ds2 | just use signals |
| 19:09.50 | ds2 | =) |
| 19:10.27 | CosmicPenguin | or don't talk to other processes |
| 19:10.31 | CosmicPenguin | screw em - i'll handle it myself |
| 19:10.35 | MothaWork | ds2: it's amazing what you can do with signals and either fifos or shared memeory |
| 19:11.14 | chouimat|work | or fork and popen |
| 19:12.13 | MothaWork | indeed |
| 19:12.36 | MothaWork | and if you have system wide status info, chuck a file in /var with the relevant info, have a well known fifo for processes to register with, and just signal the suckers |
| 19:12.45 | chouimat|work | just a bitch to get working right :) |
| 19:12.46 | MothaWork | simple, effective, and compatible with "libc" |
| 19:13.35 | ds2 | yeah and it works better then DBUS et al. |
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| 19:44.18 | sunrunner20|ovrd | #*$)($#*$) #Q( |
| 19:44.22 | sunrunner20|ovrd | stupid server |
| 19:44.35 | sunrunner20 | can't change my nick to overdrive |
| 19:44.41 | sunrunner20 | finishes off his site |
| 19:54.27 | prpplague | hmm, must be something wrong my driver :( its not responding to select properly |
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| 20:05.22 | prpplague | hmm |
| 20:25.33 | prpplague | hmm, my poll is only getting called with there is activity on the gtk app, guess i need a timer |
| 20:36.40 | prpplague | lordy lordy |
| 20:37.37 | prpplague | i hate it when documentation tells you a command is deprecated but doesn't tell you what supercedded it |
| 20:42.00 | kergoth`work | heh |
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| 20:47.49 | prpplague | kergoth`work: you do any gtk+ stuff? |
| 20:47.56 | kergoth`work | nah |
| 20:48.00 | kergoth`work | not much on ui work |
| 20:48.05 | kergoth`work | s/on/for/ |
| 20:56.05 | wmat | prpplague: do you know of any sources out there that map core names to marketing names? |
| 20:56.34 | prpplague | wmat: sorry, i didn't understand your question |
| 20:58.40 | wmat | prpplague: for example, most marketing material aren't going to call something ARM7, they're going to call it 'wicked-cool-marketing-name'. I need something that maps those marketing names to what they really are. |
| 20:58.56 | wmat | take the Hammer for example |
| 20:59.15 | prpplague | wmat: sorry don't know anything like that |
| 20:59.40 | wmat | thx |
| 20:59.58 | wmat | i didn't think it existed |
| 21:02.17 | prpplague | wmat: usually it is a real guessing game |
| 21:54.16 | prpplague | still haven't figure out why my gtk app isn't polling |
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| 22:10.23 | adyer | prpplague: somewhere in there is a Florida election joke about polling...:) |
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| 22:11.24 | prpplague | indeed |
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| 22:23.47 | prpplague | goes home for the day |
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| 23:23.57 | prpplague | ho ho ho |
| 23:24.01 | prpplague | merry freakin monday |
| 23:24.30 | prpplague | man i need to find someone who know gtk+ that won't give me the RTFM |
| 23:24.57 | luke-jr | GTK+ sucks |
| 23:25.00 | luke-jr | use Qt |
| 23:25.42 | g1powermac_PB | likes Qt as well |
| 23:26.14 | luke-jr | ⺠|
| 23:26.23 | agaffney | prpplague: I know a bit of pygtk, if that helps :P |
| 23:27.06 | prpplague | luke-jr not everyone gets to choose what they get to use |
| 23:27.22 | prpplague | agaffney got a weird problem |
| 23:27.35 | prpplague | agaffney i've hacked up an app that reads from a char dev node |
| 23:27.36 | g1powermac_PB | that sadly is the truth |
| 23:28.16 | prpplague | agaffney weird thing is that the poll works at about 10 times at the beginning, but then doesn't poll again until some action happens, i.e. mouse movement |
| 23:28.35 | agaffney | prpplague: ugh, I fscking hate the polling behavior in pygtk |
| 23:28.52 | agaffney | I had issues with it and threading |
| 23:28.55 | agaffney | with pygtk |
| 23:29.03 | prpplague | agaffney yea, thats what i figured |
| 23:29.43 | prpplague | in addition, the posted docs says that gdk_input_add() is depricated, but i can't find anything that says what supercedded it |
| 23:30.04 | agaffney | sorry I couldn't help |
| 23:30.54 | prpplague | ~lart agaffney |
| 23:30.54 | purl | flings poo at agaffney |
| 23:30.58 | agaffney | heh |
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| 23:31.20 | prpplague | as usually, i'm going where no one has been or wants to follow |
| 23:31.25 | gibot | takes a core dump on prpplague |
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| 23:31.42 | agaffney | *cough* |
| 23:32.42 | prpplague | hehe |
| 23:32.49 | g1powermac_PB | hah |
| 23:33.30 | agaffney | he's a good little bot ;) |
| 23:33.51 | prpplague | bangs head on desk |
| 23:34.04 | agaffney | prpplague: I felt the same way quite often when messing with pygtk |
| 23:34.08 | prpplague | every page i go to says this is deprecated but doesn't give you any other info |
| 23:34.30 | ds2 | thinks prpplague needs a big anvil for a desk ;) |
| 23:43.22 | prpplague | looks like g_io_watch_add() is what it was replaced with |
| 23:43.45 | prpplague | i'm wondering if it works any better than the deprecated gdk_input_add() |