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| 01:17.35 | prpplague | shaz greetings |
| 01:17.41 | prpplague | shaz i wondered when you would show up |
| 01:18.02 | prpplague | or if |
| 01:24.30 | prpplague | shaz its pretty quiet this time of the evening |
| 01:24.50 | prpplague | shaz most of the professional developers are here from around 7am CST to around 7 pm CST |
| 01:24.52 | solar | prpplague: quick pong |
| 01:25.35 | ds2 | Hmmmm |
| 01:26.08 | solar | prpplague: btw I'm blaming you for all the money I just dumped on misc things at the Make: booth |
| 01:26.14 | prpplague | solar nm, i found it , i was looking for the latest version of your ledctl stuff |
| 01:26.20 | prpplague | solar HA |
| 01:26.41 | prpplague | solar i'll be happy to take the blame |
| 01:26.48 | solar | feedback about the Nail is what I expected. "But what does it do" |
| 01:27.04 | prpplague | solar where you at? OLS? |
| 01:27.07 | prpplague | or oscon? |
| 01:27.21 | prpplague | solar interesting |
| 01:27.41 | prpplague | solar people i guess aren't seeing to potiential for design and uses i guess |
| 01:27.42 | solar | OSCON. I got a chance to meett RobotGuy. |
| 01:27.48 | prpplague | oh cool |
| 01:28.07 | prpplague | solar what do you tell them when they ask that? |
| 01:28.38 | solar | I try to explain that the Nail is the carrier board and the real magic is in the chi sitting on top. |
| 01:29.15 | solar | sorry. words/letter are messed up. 45% packet loss ;/ |
| 01:29.20 | prpplague | np |
| 01:29.24 | prpplague | i got the meaning |
| 01:29.51 | prpplague | solar how do they respond to that explaination? |
| 01:30.19 | prpplague | solar good beer up in that area |
| 01:30.24 | solar | ok. but a real demo would be better. Right now they are not seeing much outside of the Nail in my hand. |
| 01:30.47 | prpplague | ahh |
| 01:31.00 | prpplague | solar thoughts about what would be eye candy? |
| 01:31.03 | solar | So.. I picked up an arduino. whcih I figure could tie into the Nails client port rather well |
| 01:31.11 | prpplague | indeed |
| 01:32.25 | prpplague | solar good info, you'll have to send me an email to brief me on the questions/feedback you got |
| 01:32.28 | solar | picked up the full starter kit for that and one of the Make electronics misc/grab bag starter kits and the book Making things talk. |
| 01:32.40 | prpplague | is jealous |
| 01:32.54 | solar | prpplague: yeah I'll fill ya in when I get back to a normal link |
| 01:33.05 | solar | prpplague: want me to pick you one up? |
| 01:33.08 | prpplague | solar np, when you have time |
| 01:33.28 | prpplague | solar naw, i'm too swamped at work to do anything |
| 01:33.35 | prpplague | atleast for the 45 days |
| 01:33.42 | prpplague | solar thanks a bunch though |
| 01:33.54 | prpplague | solar just a few good beers for me |
| 01:34.07 | solar | so yeah beers. |
| 01:34.11 | prpplague | hehe |
| 01:34.26 | solar | all good. :) Actually I'm to head over to BeerForge |
| 01:34.34 | prpplague | cooool |
| 01:35.00 | solar | OSL sponsored drinking event. (but SF party as well) |
| 01:35.53 | prpplague | solar drink them dry for me!!! |
| 01:36.12 | solar | Will do captin! |
| 01:37.41 | solar | and I'm out.. cya |
| 01:37.56 | prpplague | solar later bud |
| 01:46.18 | prpplague | shaz was there anything specific you were looking for information on? |
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| 07:23.01 | [AD]Turbo | yo |
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| 12:44.03 | prpplague | sjhill: greetings earthling |
| 12:47.16 | prpplague | http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,391022,00.html |
| 12:50.40 | prpplague | friends don;t let friend do spam |
| 13:06.51 | sjhill | prpplague: howdy |
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| 13:21.47 | prpplague | ho ho hum |
| 13:22.00 | prpplague | merry freakin friday |
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| 13:40.51 | prpplague | haqqtiviste: now there is a unique nickname that you don't have to worry about someone else using |
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| 13:59.12 | chouimat|work | morning |
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| 15:12.18 | CosmicPenguin | http://gizmodo.com/5028780/cowon-p5-portable-media-player-has-5+inch-touchscreen-haptics-usual-cowon-goodness |
| 15:12.22 | CosmicPenguin | I dig that UI |
| 15:23.47 | kergoth`work | morning |
| 15:25.13 | file | afternoon |
| 15:45.33 | sjhill | better than a sausage party |
| 15:45.58 | sjhill | so, who all is at OLS? |
| 15:46.06 | sjhill | 'cause i sure the he** ain't |
| 15:46.48 | CosmicPenguin | me either |
| 15:46.54 | CosmicPenguin | I'm going to LPC instead |
| 15:47.01 | sjhill | :( |
| 15:47.04 | CosmicPenguin | its what all the cool kids are doing |
| 15:47.05 | sjhill | wish i could |
| 15:47.09 | sjhill | they cut our traveling budget here |
| 15:47.23 | CosmicPenguin | points at the AMD stock price |
| 15:47.24 | sjhill | for conferences only |
| 15:47.47 | CosmicPenguin | I had to hire a wagon trail to take me to portland - we need to leave tomorrow |
| 15:47.53 | CosmicPenguin | s/trail/train/ |
| 15:47.56 | sjhill | lol |
| 15:48.27 | sjhill | i could pick you up on my way through from Iowa |
| 15:48.38 | CosmicPenguin | heh |
| 15:48.51 | CosmicPenguin | thats incredibly old school there |
| 15:49.19 | CosmicPenguin | You are late though - if you aren't at independence rock by the 4th of july, you're not going to make it before the snows come |
| 15:49.30 | sjhill | "So, how'd you guys get to LPC?" |
| 15:49.44 | sjhill | "By wagon, we did some buffalo hunting too, want some jerky?" |
| 15:56.05 | chouimat|work | mmmmm jerky |
| 15:57.07 | chouimat|work | sjhill: I'm currently 5 minutes away from the rideau center and I'm not at ols ... didn't look interesting this year :) |
| 16:05.14 | CosmicPenguin | I will miss the partay |
| 16:19.04 | prpplague | lovely, just freakin lovely |
| 16:19.07 | prpplague | @#$%W#%^@% |
| 16:19.20 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: spent the last 4 weeks building up with the poky sato theme |
| 16:19.38 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: and now they tell me they want to switch to familiar or angstrom with gpe |
| 16:19.50 | CosmicPenguin | tell em to go to hell |
| 16:20.43 | prpplague | yea right |
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| 16:26.40 | CosmicPenguin | hey - they wanted a GUI, you gave them a gui |
| 16:26.51 | CosmicPenguin | <PROTECTED> |
| 16:27.13 | CosmicPenguin | if they don't like the artwork, the fire up the gimp |
| 16:27.48 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: they don't seem to like the Sato theme and poky |
| 16:28.14 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: the marketing people came back with "it doesn't look like windows ce" |
| 16:28.25 | CosmicPenguin | you are right, sir |
| 16:28.27 | CosmicPenguin | it doesn't |
| 16:28.30 | CosmicPenguin | your point being...... |
| 16:28.41 | CosmicPenguin | Thats when I ignore those sorts of requests |
| 16:28.49 | CosmicPenguin | it works, it boots, it draws - figure out the artwork on your own time, marketing boy |
| 16:29.02 | CosmicPenguin | this is why I have no friends |
| 16:29.20 | CosmicPenguin | FOr a laugh, you have to check this out: |
| 16:29.26 | CosmicPenguin | http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B000I1X6PM/ref=olp_product_details?ie=UTF8&me=&seller= |
| 16:29.31 | CosmicPenguin | The comments are comedy gold |
| 16:29.33 | CosmicPenguin | gold! |
| 16:30.34 | prpplague | looks |
| 16:32.39 | prpplague | cute |
| 16:32.50 | prpplague | i wonder how many have sold |
| 16:33.21 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: so the m8050 powers on when a battery is inserted boots up and then goes into suspend |
| 16:33.36 | CosmicPenguin | duuu |
| 16:33.46 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: when you first insert the battery, it takes about 4 seconds before something is displayed on the lcd |
| 16:33.58 | CosmicPenguin | Also duuu |
| 16:34.00 | roxfan | cute tags |
| 16:34.22 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: so to help, i configured it so the green led on the front panel comes on as soon as power is applied and the goes off as soon as linux boots |
| 16:34.37 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: that way you know its doing something |
| 16:34.58 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: got to the demo, first thing out of their mouths |
| 16:35.09 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: why doesn't it blink? |
| 16:35.27 | prpplague | simply amazing |
| 16:36.00 | CosmicPenguin | thats one of the reasons why I got out of the customer facing business |
| 16:36.15 | CosmicPenguin | If I hide behind a driver, then nobody can question the color of the icon |
| 16:36.18 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: well i normally never have to deal with this stuff |
| 16:36.18 | CosmicPenguin | I would be pissed |
| 16:44.35 | CosmicPenguin | http://investor.phoenix.com/releasedetail.cfm?ReleaseID=324165 |
| 16:48.22 | sjhill | prpplague: at least your customers aren't the Army |
| 16:48.36 | prpplague | indeed |
| 16:49.20 | sjhill | it's no fun having majors go off on you |
| 16:49.23 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: now i have to get screenshots of various distros with various themes for marketing to choose from |
| 16:49.57 | sjhill | notes prpplague's new title, "Marketing's Bitch" |
| 16:50.00 | sjhill | sorry |
| 16:50.19 | prpplague | indeed |
| 16:53.36 | g1powermac | kewl, got some giant perf board in today to build my LED sign |
| 16:53.49 | g1powermac | speaking of deliveries, still no z2, prpplague |
| 16:54.06 | prpplague | g1powermac: crap, i'll check |
| 16:54.10 | g1powermac | k |
| 16:54.38 | chouimat|work | CosmicPenguin: thanks for the link about the perfect cable ... |
| 16:54.45 | g1powermac | man, these perf boards really smell. . . |
| 16:54.55 | g1powermac | meh, cheap chinese perf boards |
| 16:57.51 | kergoth`work | prpplague: themes? yikes man |
| 16:57.52 | kergoth`work | that sucks |
| 16:58.05 | prpplague | indeed |
| 17:00.07 | kergoth`work | whee, OT, but i finally found a personal finance/budgeting app that works for me |
| 17:00.20 | chouimat|work | nice |
| 17:01.02 | kergoth`work | tried money, quicken, mint, wesabe, etc, but none of their budgeting made sense to me.. to me, when i dont spend the money in a category, it should roll over so i have more to work with the next month. |
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| 17:02.51 | chouimat|work | kergoth`work: hehe |
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| 17:14.59 | CosmicPenguin | kergoth`work: what are you using? |
| 17:15.18 | kergoth`work | it's called You Need A Budget (great name! :P) |
| 17:15.42 | kergoth`work | started just a husband and his wife selling a fully set up excel spreadsheet, but now they have a windows app as well |
| 17:16.17 | kergoth`work | real simple, but the best part is the fact that things roll over, you can easily set aside X dollars a month for something, and in 6 months, see how much of your current money is in the balance for that category |
| 17:16.31 | kergoth`work | nice for setting money aside for thing syou know you'll need, and not forgetting about it |
| 17:17.08 | kergoth`work | http://www.youneedabudget.com/ - see the "See Rule X in Action" links, for quick screencasts showing the app in use |
| 17:18.50 | chouimat|work | kergoth`work: still too complicated for me ... |
| 17:19.44 | kergoth`work | money/quicken/etc are more complex in general, though simpler budget wise. but their budgeting is more about looking and seeing "are we overbudget on FOO this month?" and thats it. t his one is more about looking ahead to the next month or farther and saying where should our money go |
| 17:20.15 | kergoth`work | mint.com might be a good route for you, or wesabi. they're simple and real easy to use, not as flexible, but easy |
| 17:21.27 | chouimat|work | kergoth`work: I usually manage well on paper and in my head : are the bills paid? is the cat having enough food? do I have enough food ? beer? is my bank account over 2500$ each month? |
| 17:22.07 | kergoth`work | nod, thats where i was too. whats missing from that is setting aside cash for upcoming expenses. making sure you've got extra cash for christmas, etc |
| 17:22.29 | kergoth`work | and of course wathcing your spending :) |
| 17:22.50 | prpplague | oh lord |
| 17:23.00 | prpplague | now they are telling me they want either opie or qt |
| 17:23.04 | chouimat|work | kergoth`work: I watch my spending and I still have more money that I can possibly spend in 1 month ... |
| 17:23.10 | kergoth`work | nice |
| 17:23.22 | kergoth`work | prpplague: heh, fun fun |
| 17:23.29 | prpplague | yea boat loads |
| 17:23.35 | chouimat|work | kergoth`work: the beauty of having a 3:1 income/expense ratio :) |
| 17:24.02 | kergoth`work | chouimat|away: i've made plenty of money compared to my expenses, though not 3:1, for probably the last 8 years.. and yet, i have no savings, no retirement accounts, and my checking account has been within a couple grand of empty the whole time |
| 17:24.04 | kergoth`work | boggles the mind |
| 17:24.36 | chouimat|work | prpplague qt/qtopia 4 is not bad ... a lot better than the previous versions |
| 17:24.51 | prpplague | chouimat|work: not really the point |
| 17:25.03 | prpplague | chouimat|work: point is they are suppose to put this to market in 4 weeks |
| 17:25.12 | kergoth`work | hah |
| 17:25.14 | kergoth`work | good luck |
| 17:25.26 | chouimat|work | kergoth`work: after surviving with 2000$/month for years I think I control my spending fairly well |
| 17:25.39 | prpplague | yea no way to do it if they switch from using poky sato |
| 17:25.47 | kergoth`work | i found a -lot- of areas to cut back on lately |
| 17:25.55 | chouimat|work | prpplague good luck |
| 17:26.10 | prpplague | isn't going to worry about it |
| 17:26.19 | prpplague | as long the system boots and all the drivers work |
| 17:26.54 | kergoth`work | lowered my electricity usage from 100+kwh/day to <80, cut out $28/mo hosting, $30 of the satellite tv, starting bringing lunches to work, limiting soda/drink purchases (though its still $1000+/yr), etc |
| 17:26.56 | chouimat|work | kergoth`work: I found a lot of areas where I can spend more lately ... like new furnitures for my apartment, retirement fund, new clothes so I can be more attractive with the ladies ... |
| 17:26.58 | kergoth`work | amazing how much the little stuff adds up |
| 17:27.01 | kergoth`work | hehe |
| 17:27.48 | prpplague | chouimat|work: what is the license for qt/qtopia anyway? |
| 17:29.08 | chouimat|work | prpplague qt is a developer license (the comercial one) no royalties, qtopia iirc you might have small royalties per device but I'm not sure ... if you want the user interface to be opensource its' GPLv2 or GPLv3 no LGPL |
| 17:29.56 | prpplague | ahh so if we choose to have it opensource there is no royalities? |
| 17:30.20 | chouimat|work | prpplague I think so ... |
| 17:31.12 | chouimat|work | prpplague the Qt/x11/mac/windows have no royalties to pay ... it's a development license (per developer) |
| 17:31.26 | prpplague | kergoth`work: if i wasn't married and didn't have kids, i could live very very cheaply |
| 17:31.38 | prpplague | kergoth`work: but those things tend to create expenses |
| 17:31.43 | kergoth`work | nod |
| 17:32.16 | kergoth`work | i could see marriage and kids for me and nikki within 5 years.. not a lot of time to save up what i'm going to need for it all, considering |
| 17:33.07 | chouimat|work | kergoth`work: in the last 8 months (since I have this job) I bought a few toys: 2 avr32 boards, 1 ps3, 1 psp, 1 mac pro, 1 eeepc ... I might forgot a few too |
| 17:33.25 | prpplague | moving and having to sell everything 4 times in the last 6 years is costly |
| 17:33.48 | prpplague | sorry 3 times |
| 17:34.12 | kergoth`work | chouimat|away: sheesh, thats a lot :) |
| 17:34.22 | kergoth`work | but considering 8 months, could be worse |
| 17:34.37 | kergoth`work | how do you like the eee, btw? |
| 17:34.46 | chouimat|work | I forgot the n800 ... might order a freerunner soon |
| 17:35.07 | chouimat|work | I like the eee just need to find the time to remove xandros from it |
| 17:35.13 | prpplague | same here |
| 17:35.22 | kergoth`work | i'm debating switchign to a netbook as a primary machine, since 99% of what i use my desktop for is web/irc/aim & office stuff... could keep the desktop off most of the time, just turn it on for games |
| 17:35.23 | CosmicPenguin | mmm - nokia |
| 17:35.45 | CosmicPenguin | I want an 810 for christmas |
| 17:35.58 | CosmicPenguin | my 700 is cool, but aging |
| 17:36.44 | chouimat|work | kergoth`work: currently my mac pro is running all the time because I moved 5 servers on it ... I still have my p3 because it's the only computer I have with a serial port |
| 17:36.55 | prpplague | gregkh has been going thru the .26 changelog and anyone he doesn't know emails them to ask about their patches |
| 17:37.08 | prpplague | he's doing his company break down again this year |
| 17:37.15 | chouimat|work | ? |
| 17:37.23 | CosmicPenguin | woo - we're going to be higher then last year |
| 17:37.33 | CosmicPenguin | I made a big deal about that last year |
| 17:37.38 | prpplague | hehe |
| 17:37.47 | CosmicPenguin | we were like 79th or something |
| 17:37.54 | CosmicPenguin | and I told everybody that was completely unacceptable |
| 17:38.01 | prpplague | chouimat|work: https://ols2006.108.redhat.com/2007/Reprints/kroah-hartman-Reprint.pdf |
| 17:38.16 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: hehe |
| 17:38.37 | prpplague | todays engineering meeting was a complete disappointment |
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| 17:44.32 | g1powermac | wow, this led controller is really finicky about its clock line that I have the ds89c450 generating |
| 17:45.20 | g1powermac | the led I had attached to the controller would randomly go full brightness for no real reason, and sometimes by just putting pressure on the components it would change behavior |
| 17:45.28 | CosmicPenguin | hah |
| 17:45.57 | g1powermac | eventually what fixed it was sticking a small smoothing cap from the clock line to ground |
| 17:48.29 | CosmicPenguin | hmm - I probably need to turn off the timer to keep it from ticking while i'm in handling an interrupt, huh? |
| 17:48.42 | CosmicPenguin | on the 8051 |
| 17:48.52 | g1powermac | I noticed it would also change behavior when I attached my scope's probes for the clock line |
| 17:48.59 | g1powermac | heh, yea :-) |
| 17:49.28 | g1powermac | though, hmm, I think |
| 17:49.59 | g1powermac | usually I just shut off all interrupts when I get into an interrupt routine |
| 17:50.17 | CosmicPenguin | right |
| 17:50.31 | g1powermac | though this is from memory of what I did about two years ago :-) |
| 17:50.42 | CosmicPenguin | I wasn't sure if it happened automagically or not |
| 17:50.44 | CosmicPenguin | I assume not |
| 17:50.45 | prpplague | wonders if that shaz guy ever said anything last night |
| 17:50.46 | g1powermac | I haven't used interrupts since then |
| 17:51.22 | g1powermac | heck, I haven't done embedded programming except for these past few days since then |
| 17:52.56 | prpplague | g1powermac: ping |
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| 18:17.41 | solar | prpplague: Looking at the scroll. nope that guy not say anything else. Not after you said anything |
| 18:20.05 | ds2 | ARRRRRRRRRRRGGGGGGG |
| 18:26.57 | prpplague | solar: funny thing was that he was posting lost of messages on different mailing lists asking for irc channel to get help with embedded linux |
| 18:35.26 | chouimat|work | kergoth`work: btw I forgot to mention I'm waiting for a kurobox pro too :) |
| 18:36.41 | kergoth`work | sheesh :) |
| 18:37.52 | chouimat|work | kergoth`work: most of the device I work with are marvell orion5k based so I will have a nice one I can hack at home (aka redhat es4/es5 development machine ... yes our product is based on es4 ) |
| 18:38.09 | kergoth`work | i wish i could still get excited about hacking devices |
| 18:38.37 | kergoth`work | now i'm lokoing to start again just to brush up my embedded knowledge, get clued into recent embedded oss projects, etc, for my career |
| 18:39.03 | chouimat|work | like me it's not an hobby it's learning tools :) |
| 18:50.04 | prpplague | ho ho hum |
| 18:51.07 | kergoth`work | you guys ever order used books online? |
| 18:57.00 | Crofton | traitor |
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| 18:58.06 | prpplague | kergoth`work: only women |
| 19:00.14 | methril|laptop | yo |
| 19:04.57 | kergoth`work | oh noes, i admitted to knowing something. i'd better not end up being responsible for it |
| 19:05.00 | kergoth`work | i hate that |
| 19:05.01 | kergoth`work | :P |
| 19:05.06 | prpplague | hehe |
| 19:11.56 | prpplague | ho ho hum |
| 19:12.24 | prpplague | there any reason you'd not be able to properly execute a work task from inside a tasklet? |
| 19:12.46 | kergoth`work | any of you guys ever mess with an ethernet dma engine? |
| 19:13.03 | prpplague | kergoth`work: i have, and don't want to ever again |
| 19:13.15 | kergoth`work | hrmph |
| 19:13.29 | prpplague | me and dma don't get along |
| 19:13.39 | kergoth`work | one of the pointers to a buffer thats in a descriptor in the ring that the engine uses is beign corrupted somewher outside the driver, afaict |
| 19:13.43 | kergoth`work | no idea where to go from here |
| 19:14.38 | prpplague | kergoth`work: either go printk crazy, or get jtag up and running |
| 19:15.04 | kergoth`work | cant jtag, the test environment is in santa clara |
| 19:15.22 | prpplague | doh |
| 19:15.22 | kergoth`work | i went printk crazy in the driver, but only traced it to the ethernet packet reception function that pulls the descriptor off the ring and does stuff with it.. |
| 19:15.28 | kergoth`work | and of course its powerpc, an arch i know jack about |
| 19:15.35 | prpplague | lovely |
| 19:15.40 | kergoth`work | quite |
| 19:16.06 | ds2 | heheh |
| 19:16.16 | ds2 | PPC is fun... overgrown RS6K |
| 19:16.18 | kergoth`work | its my understanding that the descriptors are used by the dma engine to control what it does.. but what would cause something to -overwrite- the buffer poitner in the descriptor? |
| 19:16.19 | kergoth`work | i dont get it |
| 19:16.34 | kergoth`work | is readnig understanding linux network internals as a start, doesnt know network driver bits well |
| 19:16.39 | ds2 | some dma engines will update the descriptor when it finishes sending it |
| 19:17.06 | kergoth`work | the thing is, it doesnt happen all the time, or even normally, it only seems to happen when pushing above a certain amount of bandwidth in this test |
| 19:17.17 | kergoth`work | wonders if he can track down the datasheet on this chipset |
| 19:17.34 | CosmicPenguin | if the buffer pointer is being overwritten, perhaps the receiving engine is wrapping around? |
| 19:18.05 | kergoth`work | i better get the datasheet, i have no iea how the engien is supposed to work :) |
| 19:18.28 | kergoth`work | i suck with dma and coherency issues, but i know the cachse arent coherent in this setup, maybe somebody isnt flushing whent hey should be |
| 19:18.54 | ds2 | isn't there eieio thing you need to do? |
| 19:19.25 | kergoth`work | what worries me |
| 19:19.38 | kergoth`work | is the guy who's committed over half the upstream commits on this driver doesnt have any ideas either. |
| 19:20.34 | prpplague | kergoth`work: mind if i ask what chipset? |
| 19:20.59 | kergoth`work | mv643xx, i.e. mv64360, marvell discovery II |
| 19:21.30 | prpplague | ahh, good luck on getting the datasheet then |
| 19:21.49 | kergoth`work | it doesnt exist online, i think we have it internally somewhere though |
| 19:22.02 | prpplague | marvell wants you to have a NDA to ask about getting a NDA |
| 19:22.44 | CosmicPenguin | hey - ou shouldn't be talking about that |
| 19:24.34 | prpplague | hehe |
| 19:25.19 | prpplague | refrains from saying horrible things about the EE |
| 19:25.47 | ds2 | contempts starting a pool on when prpplague will have a voodoo doll of the EE ;) |
| 19:26.01 | CosmicPenguin | no bet |
| 19:26.08 | CosmicPenguin | his wife is from Barbados, remember? |
| 19:26.14 | prpplague | hehe |
| 19:26.22 | ds2 | it stillneeds to be ordered! |
| 19:26.33 | CosmicPenguin | he probably has vodoo dolls for all of us, just to hedge his bets |
| 19:26.38 | prpplague | hehe |
| 19:28.05 | prpplague | calypso on "pirates of the carribean" was what the west indians call a "obia woman" |
| 19:28.24 | prpplague | more or less a voodoo witch |
| 19:28.49 | prpplague | most of the west indian islands have them |
| 19:29.53 | prpplague | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Obeah |
| 19:30.09 | prpplague | wikipedia has it spelled Obeah , but the west indians spell it Obia |
| 19:31.12 | prpplague | goes back to debugging suspend/resume on the m8050 |
| 19:31.46 | prpplague | never you mind that its suppose to be release in 4 weeks and i _just_ got a working board with suspend/resume capabilities |
| 19:33.04 | chouimat|work | hehe |
| 19:38.21 | g1powermac | prpplague, ouch |
| 19:44.32 | prpplague | hmm, seems to be hanging on sys_sync() |
| 19:44.48 | ds2 | some block device is hanging? |
| 19:45.40 | g1powermac | is going to have to do some mAh calculations of this LED sign. . . |
| 19:45.55 | g1powermac | with 80 some LEDs, this thing could easily suck down alot of juice |
| 19:46.10 | prpplague | ds2: thats my guess |
| 19:46.30 | g1powermac | need to find a 5v regulator and even a wall wart that can handle that kind of power |
| 19:49.43 | prpplague | g1powermac: just need a good LED driver |
| 20:11.35 | prpplague | ho ho hum |
| 20:11.49 | prpplague | dr.who on tonight |
| 20:12.23 | kergoth`work | huh, "ars technica reports that Microsoft will be contributing $100,000 annually to the Apache Software Foundation." |
| 20:13.04 | prpplague | that seems strange |
| 20:15.32 | kergoth`work | 'So ideally, "I switched to a new window manager" doesh't mean "my screen has some different widgets on it now". It means "I'm looking at the screen with new eyes."' .. i like that |
| 20:18.12 | prpplague | "The man who carries a cat by the tail learns something that can be learned in no other way." |
| 20:20.58 | kergoth`work | "Borrowing money is like wetting your bed in the middle of the night. At first all you feel is warmth and release. But very, very quickly comes the awful, cold discomfort of reality." |
| 20:21.36 | prpplague | kergoth`work: hehe, who said that one? |
| 20:21.40 | prpplague | ?Beer is proof that God loves us and wants us to be happy.? |
| 20:21.58 | wmat | heh |
| 20:22.02 | CosmicPenguin | That was Thomas Jefferson? |
| 20:22.16 | CosmicPenguin | One of the founding fathers said the beer statement |
| 20:22.22 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: franklin |
| 20:22.25 | kergoth`work | Elizabeth Gilbert |
| 20:22.25 | kergoth`work | Author, 'Eat, Pray, Love' (passing along her father's advice) |
| 20:22.30 | kergoth`work | is where the borrowing money quote came from |
| 20:22.35 | prpplague | ahh |
| 20:22.46 | CosmicPenguin | Franklin - elecricticy and beer |
| 20:22.49 | CosmicPenguin | the two things that make us all go |
| 20:24.31 | prpplague | iirc he got one of his girlfriends preggy when he was 71 |
| 20:24.47 | CosmicPenguin | if you saw Sam Adams, you saw that he was a bit of a prick too |
| 20:24.51 | wmat | "No poems can please nor live long that are written by water drinker." |
| 20:25.08 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: yea |
| 20:25.23 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: john adams |
| 20:25.33 | CosmicPenguin | prpplague: it got something like 23 emmy nominations |
| 20:25.42 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: hehe thats what i was typing |
| 20:25.45 | CosmicPenguin | sorry - I must have been thinking beer |
| 20:25.58 | CosmicPenguin | thats silly, of course I was thinking beer |
| 20:26.05 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: i thought it was pretty darn good show |
| 20:26.30 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: shame that HBO can go from the quality of John Adams to the crap of generation kill |
| 20:26.40 | CosmicPenguin | can't win em all |
| 20:26.46 | prpplague | indeed |
| 20:26.53 | wmat | is still catching up on BG |
| 20:27.04 | CosmicPenguin | I think the key is TOm Hanks as producer |
| 20:27.05 | wmat | Season 1, no less |
| 20:27.08 | CosmicPenguin | Band of Brothers - win |
| 20:27.14 | CosmicPenguin | From the Earth to the Moon - win |
| 20:27.17 | CosmicPenguin | John Adams - win |
| 20:27.18 | prpplague | problem is alot of people who aren't familiar with the military think that stuff is realistic |
| 20:27.40 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: was tom hanks producer for apollo 13? |
| 20:28.12 | CosmicPenguin | I'm not sure - but he did From the Earth to the Moon after the movie came out |
| 20:28.32 | prpplague | yea |
| 20:29.02 | prpplague | bill anders declined to be interviewed for that, but he did for "when we left earth" |
| 20:29.11 | chouimat|work | why apollo 13 was a disaster? because Forrest Gump was the pilot |
| 20:29.13 | chouimat|work | runs |
| 20:29.23 | CosmicPenguin | From the Earth to the Moon was an excellent series |
| 20:30.02 | CosmicPenguin | I liked that when they did Apollo 13, that they focused on the family at home - seeing as how the movie had already covered the rest |
| 20:31.08 | CosmicPenguin | and how they mixed in the archive footage of Cronkite |
| 20:34.53 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: yea i liked it as well |
| 20:39.38 | prpplague | tries to figure out this power button isn't working |
| 20:40.19 | CosmicPenguin | you need to pus hit |
| 20:41.31 | kergoth`work | puss hit? sounds like some sort of kinky thing, or cat abuse |
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| 20:53.36 | prpplague | power management always takes forever to tweak and test |
| 21:30.47 | solar | has meet some really cool embedded ppl in the last few days. |
| 21:33.39 | chouimat|work | solar: is it complicated to cross compile a gentoo stage? |
| 21:39.04 | solar | chouimat|away: not really but you have to understand thew limitations before hand. (perl is the evil cross compile) so that will kick your rear if you are aiming to make what gentoo calls a stage[1-3] |
| 21:39.39 | solar | nick comp... a comes before w |
| 21:40.31 | ds2 | cross compiling perl... heheh |
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| 21:41.09 | solar | it's a sad but required thing in the world of trying to make a fully self hosted stage. |
| 22:56.31 | ds2 | time to design the "Spike board"? |
| 22:57.40 | g1powermac | grumbles about having to enter every single college course I've taken in the past few years for the application to the school I'll be going to soon. . . |
| 22:58.05 | g1powermac | has over 80 credits. . . |
| 22:58.19 | ds2 | what kind of school? |
| 22:58.30 | g1powermac | large university |
| 22:58.38 | g1powermac | I'll finally be finishing my degree |
| 22:59.23 | g1powermac | in what? who the heck knows ;-) |
| 22:59.23 | ds2 | it doesn't seem to matter |
| 23:00.05 | g1powermac | will prolly live in the engineering department till they just give up and hire me as I've taken every course they offered ;-) |
| 23:16.42 | g1powermac | well, that was fun |
| 23:16.50 | g1powermac | now I just have to write the stupid essays |
| 23:17.54 | g1powermac | really ponders about why they require transfer students with many credits to fill out a form that incoming freshman have to fill out with the added bonus of listing every single course taken previously. . . |
| 23:28.06 | prpplague_dead | ds2 hehe spike? |
| 23:37.19 | ds2 | prpplague: bigger, better featured nail but smaller then the carrier ;) |
| 23:37.35 | ds2 | g1powermac: why not just send them an unofficial transcript? |
| 23:43.35 | g1powermac_PB | ds2: they want official transcripts too |
| 23:43.52 | ds2 | g1powermac_PB: heh... that's $30 down the drain? |
| 23:44.14 | g1powermac_PB | pretty much |
| 23:44.34 | g1powermac_PB | though I actually have official transcripts from the one college I went to |
| 23:44.59 | g1powermac_PB | the other one will only send official ones directly to other colleges, so I have to pay them to send it |
| 23:45.22 | ds2 | isn't the definition of official transcript one that is sealed and sent from the originating institution? |
| 23:45.55 | g1powermac_PB | I thought so, but I guess it doesn't work that way here in this state |
| 23:46.52 | g1powermac_PB | the official transcript I have though has an actual embossed seal on it, so I guess thats all they need |
| 23:59.33 | solar | undead |