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| 00:56.14 | prpplague | man i hope the wolfson folks come online before tomorrows engineering meeting |
| 00:56.45 | GPSFan | prpplague: 'smatter, tehy promise you a datasheet and not deliver? |
| 00:58.06 | prpplague | GPSFan oh you missed all the fun today |
| 00:58.35 | prpplague | GPSFan we've spent the last 6 months doing this M8050 with a wolfson codec |
| 00:58.43 | prpplague | GPSFan WM8750 |
| 00:58.53 | GPSFan | prpplague: oops, was busy outside most of today, sheep shots, wormer... irrigation.... |
| 00:59.12 | GPSFan | ah, and now they have EOL'd it? |
| 00:59.13 | prpplague | GPSFan so this morning i find out the EE, the one that's giving me so much trouble |
| 00:59.45 | prpplague | GPSFan tells the boss that he has to redo the entire audio section of the pcb because there is no windows ce driver for the codex |
| 00:59.47 | prpplague | codec |
| 01:00.15 | prpplague | so i don't hear anything about it until everyone is freaking out |
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| 01:00.37 | prpplague | finally i ask what the heck is going on and get the scoup |
| 01:00.49 | prpplague | GPSFan complete nightmare |
| 01:00.58 | g1powermac | dang |
| 01:01.04 | prpplague | GPSFan this idiot EE has no clue what the heck a driver is in the first place |
| 01:01.13 | prpplague | GPSFan so we have this big meeting |
| 01:01.28 | GPSFan | see what happens when you touch the windows (ce/xp/vista.....) tarbaby. |
| 01:01.30 | prpplague | GPSFan and i question him about how he determined there was no driver available |
| 01:02.16 | prpplague | GPSFan turns out he emailed wolfson and asked "do you have a windows ce driver for the wm8750 compiled for the s3c2440 using gpio pins GPC4 and GPC5" |
| 01:02.25 | prpplague | GPSFan of course what do they respond? |
| 01:02.39 | GPSFan | no |
| 01:02.39 | g1powermac | oi |
| 01:02.50 | prpplague | of course not, how silly can you get |
| 01:03.27 | prpplague | anyway, i try to explain that thats not the way its done, i contact wolfson and the confirm that they have a windows ce 6 driver for the wm8750 in source |
| 01:03.48 | prpplague | but the boss won't believe me untill he's got the source and confirmation in hand from wolfson |
| 01:04.02 | prpplague | talk about a complete waste of a day |
| 01:04.05 | GPSFan | just edit the gpio bits , recompile and voila |
| 01:04.13 | prpplague | exactly |
| 01:04.24 | GPSFan | sounds like time for a phone call. |
| 01:04.57 | g1powermac | sounds like someones head needs to roll |
| 01:04.58 | prpplague | and its not just that the EE went off doing this, but its the fact that boss didn't even consult his SENIOR SOFTWARE ENGINEER |
| 01:05.11 | prpplague | before going off the deep end |
| 01:05.34 | GPSFan | wolfson has one of the widest used codec family in the embedded world, wince/llinux/macos IIRC there is one in the new iPhone. |
| 01:05.40 | prpplague | chants "go to your happy place.... go to your happy place" |
| 01:05.48 | prpplague | GPSFan yep |
| 01:05.58 | prpplague | GPSFan anyway their tech office is england |
| 01:06.00 | GPSFan | "always look on the bright side of life" |
| 01:06.10 | prpplague | GPSFan so they'd already left for the day when i finally convince the boss |
| 01:06.22 | g1powermac | prpplague, a sledge hammer makes a great stress relief :-) |
| 01:06.29 | GPSFan | so you can call them at 0'dark:30 and have an answer in hand |
| 01:06.39 | prpplague | GPSFan on a happier note, i purchased a lovely red kettle for the stove :) |
| 01:06.39 | GPSFan | tomorrow |
| 01:06.53 | GPSFan | cool. |
| 01:07.00 | g1powermac | heya RobotGuy |
| 01:07.03 | GPSFan | g1powermac: btw, nice dog |
| 01:07.09 | g1powermac | GPSFan, thanks :-) |
| 01:07.10 | RobotGuy | g1powermac: Hi |
| 01:07.58 | g1powermac | he's a real mix, part pekinese, part dachshund, and part australian shepherd |
| 01:08.22 | RobotGuy | Sounds more like he's real mixed up.. ;) |
| 01:08.44 | prpplague | g1powermac sounds tasty, gonna bar-b-q or roast? |
| 01:09.02 | GPSFan | we have 3 (guard dogs for the sheep) 1 pyreenees, 2 polish tatra-spanish mastif |
| 01:09.04 | g1powermac | hah |
| 01:09.07 | prpplague | hands the bar-b-q sauce to g1powermac |
| 01:09.30 | g1powermac | GPSFan, ahh |
| 01:09.31 | prpplague | hehe we have a 1/2 poodle 1/2 yorkshire |
| 01:09.37 | prpplague | a yorky-poo |
| 01:09.51 | RobotGuy | A yoodle or porkshire |
| 01:09.52 | GPSFan | prpplague: a pooshire |
| 01:09.57 | GPSFan | or porkshire |
| 01:09.58 | prpplague | GPSFan no "pig" for hearding sheep? |
| 01:10.04 | prpplague | hehe |
| 01:10.14 | GPSFan | no herding dogs |
| 01:11.12 | prpplague | was making a joke about the movie "babe" |
| 01:11.43 | GPSFan | liked babe |
| 01:12.44 | GPSFan | g1powermac: you have a mac collection? |
| 01:13.21 | g1powermac___PB | GPSFan: its getting to that point :-) |
| 01:13.45 | GPSFan | you need a pb100 or an 8500AV or a MAC IICI? |
| 01:14.10 | g1powermac_PB | has a 8600 and a pb512. . . |
| 01:14.20 | prpplague | http://imagebin.ca/view/ypd_Q-E0.html |
| 01:14.21 | g1powermac_PB | err, pb520 |
| 01:14.26 | GPSFan | g1powermac: you need MORE... |
| 01:14.31 | prpplague | his name is chewy after cheboca from star wars |
| 01:14.34 | g1powermac_PB | though if your pb100 is still in working order. . . |
| 01:14.40 | GPSFan | it is, |
| 01:14.56 | g1powermac_PB | (my pb520 has screen issues |
| 01:15.06 | GPSFan | possibly except for the trackball & battery |
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| 01:15.14 | g1powermac_PB | battery is a given |
| 01:15.35 | g1powermac_PB | expects that for such old machines |
| 01:16.02 | prpplague | he's a real loving dog, he's very fond of the kids |
| 01:16.20 | RobotGuy | My cat is scared of everything and everyone, except me. |
| 01:16.21 | GPSFan | g1powermac: that's a dog, not a mac |
| 01:16.29 | g1powermac_PB | GPSFan: remind me in a couple of weeks about it |
| 01:16.36 | prpplague | GPSFan http://imagebin.ca/view/5p6Dc44u.html |
| 01:16.39 | prpplague | GPSFan check out that |
| 01:16.48 | GPSFan | sure, the dust will only be slightly higher. |
| 01:16.53 | prpplague | GPSFan put that in the bathroom one night when it was dark |
| 01:17.04 | g1powermac_PB | prpplague: this pup is a bit nuts atm :-) |
| 01:17.05 | prpplague | GPSFan scared the absolute hell out of my wife |
| 01:17.18 | prpplague | GPSFan she started hyperventilating |
| 01:17.58 | g1powermac_PB | been trying to get him to interact with the other two old dogs we have |
| 01:18.02 | g1powermac_PB | not easy |
| 01:18.18 | prpplague | g1powermac_PB yea when they are young, it takes some time to get used to the new area |
| 01:19.06 | prpplague | GPSFan and yes i had to sleep on the couch that night |
| 01:19.24 | g1powermac_PB | our other two are really half dead half the time |
| 01:19.33 | GPSFan | prpplague: not supprising |
| 01:19.35 | g1powermac_PB | they sleep for pretty much the entire day |
| 01:20.24 | g1powermac_PB | plus they're both females |
| 01:20.42 | GPSFan | g1powermac: dominance issues? |
| 01:20.55 | g1powermac_PB | yup |
| 01:21.02 | g1powermac_PB | the pup thinks he's the dominate one |
| 01:21.18 | g1powermac_PB | I've had to put him in his place dog style a few times |
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| 01:21.56 | prpplague | alright time to really scare everyone |
| 01:22.22 | g1powermac_PB | when he starts antagonizing the other two, I'll bark and growl at him at the same time grabbing the back of his neck to bring him to the ground |
| 01:22.29 | g1powermac_PB | it works quite nicely |
| 01:23.18 | prpplague | GPSFan / g1powermac_PB http://imagebin.ca/view/iQkcp5h.html |
| 01:23.24 | g1powermac_PB | he's still biting alot though |
| 01:23.24 | prpplague | really scare picture |
| 01:23.32 | g1powermac_PB | but I think he's still teething |
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| 01:23.55 | GPSFan | now that's scarry! |
| 01:24.06 | g1powermac_PB | prpplague: I'm not getting any image |
| 01:24.20 | prpplague | RobotGuy here-gone-here-gone you are starting to remind me of my sanity |
| 01:24.31 | prpplague | g1powermac_PB slow page |
| 01:25.04 | prpplague | g1powermac_PB imagebin.ca and pastebin.ca have been erractic lately |
| 01:25.17 | prpplague | g1powermac_PB it come up? |
| 01:25.47 | g1powermac_PB | nopr |
| 01:25.53 | prpplague | weird |
| 01:26.15 | GPSFan | it took a while for me, but it did come up |
| 01:26.15 | prpplague | http://imagebin.ca/view/iQkcp5h.html |
| 01:26.17 | prpplague | try again |
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| 01:27.16 | prpplague | g1powermac_PB may it is best you not look you might not be able to sleep tonight |
| 01:27.20 | prpplague | RobotGuy here-gone-here-gone you are starting to remind me of my sanity |
| 01:27.46 | RobotGuy | I already lost mine. |
| 01:27.58 | g1powermac | ahh, it works on my imac, weird |
| 01:28.29 | prpplague | i was a little over weight in that pic, it was in the winter |
| 01:28.43 | g1powermac | oh man, that first pic is scarey |
| 01:28.53 | prpplague | hehe |
| 01:28.54 | chouimat | hi ladies |
| 01:29.13 | RobotGuy | gives chouimat a new pair of glasses |
| 01:29.17 | prpplague | chouimat hey fine french canadian comrad |
| 01:29.33 | chouimat | RobotGuy: ladies == prpplague |
| 01:29.42 | g1powermac_PB | prpplague: here's my evil head shot: http://www.thisoldgadget.org/me.jpg ;-) |
| 01:29.47 | RobotGuy | No, he's Program. :p |
| 01:30.01 | prpplague | g1powermac you looked at all three pics? |
| 01:30.02 | GPSFan | cul gotta go.. |
| 01:30.18 | prpplague | GPSFan later |
| 01:30.44 | prpplague | jokes with chouimat |
| 01:30.58 | prpplague | RobotGuy he's french canadian, what can you expect? |
| 01:31.11 | chouimat | lol |
| 01:31.14 | RobotGuy | Let's see now, I've put two people on ignore today, one being a channel op on #django. |
| 01:31.30 | RobotGuy | The other an idiot on #swhack. |
| 01:31.37 | prpplague | uh ok just caught a SIGWIFE alarm |
| 01:31.41 | prpplague | bails |
| 01:32.08 | RobotGuy | We know who wears the suspenders in that family. :) |
| 01:32.41 | chouimat | prpplague: did I managed to piss off some else today ... I know I managed to piss off my usual bartender since last thursday by finding another woman more attractive ... service is ok but I lost the hi and conversation since then (and also the ass grab) |
| 01:33.44 | RobotGuy | won't even approach the attractive women anymore. |
| 01:34.07 | RobotGuy | Well, OK, I did approach one at OSCON, but that is highly unusual for me. |
| 01:35.39 | chouimat | RobotGuy: I don't approach them ... I'm not looking but if there is a possibility .... |
| 01:36.16 | RobotGuy | I don't know WHY I approaced this one, but I just HAD to. |
| 01:36.41 | RobotGuy | *approached |
| 01:38.22 | prpplague | chouimat|Zzzz hey |
| 01:38.27 | prpplague | chouimat|Zzzz you still there? |
| 01:39.06 | prpplague | oh well |
| 01:39.16 | g1powermac | prpplague, yup |
| 01:39.24 | g1powermac | sorry, had to take the dog out :-) |
| 01:40.08 | g1powermac | prpplague, you prolly were about what I weighed about a year ago. . .now I'm about 90lb lighter |
| 01:40.27 | RobotGuy | prpplague: When you looked at my buildroot configs for OpenOCD, did you see ANY sign of something not right? |
| 01:41.42 | RobotGuy | I still can't figure out why only part of my image is being flashed. |
| 01:45.41 | g1powermac | man this pup gets really ralled up |
| 01:49.20 | RobotGuy | sighs and gives up |
| 01:49.51 | g1powermac | wonders what kind of hardware is in this thing: http://www.streettech.com/archives_hardware/asanteTalk.html |
| 01:50.13 | g1powermac | I'm using one now to get my old laserwriter on my ethernet network so I can print to it |
| 01:50.40 | g1powermac | but I'd like to use it to bridge my internet connection to my mac classic II as it doesn't have an ethernet port |
| 01:52.21 | RobotGuy | would just like to get things working again. |
| 02:08.23 | g1powermac | gnight all |
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| 02:45.15 | Mirell | Hmm.. |
| 02:46.47 | prpplague | Mirell i second that |
| 02:47.21 | Mirell | Hehe |
| 02:47.35 | Mirell | Also, I hate Visa. |
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| 03:19.20 | prpplague | ho ho hum |
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| 05:24.33 | RobotGuy | Beep beep |
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| 07:39.28 | [AD]Turbo | hola |
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| 10:20.15 | methril | yo |
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| 13:03.37 | g1powermac | hey prpplague |
| 13:04.15 | prpplague | hey |
| 13:04.24 | prpplague | little busy this morning, bbiab |
| 13:04.33 | g1powermac | alrighty |
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| 13:47.18 | g1powermac | morning GPSFan |
| 13:54.14 | GPSFan | g1powermac: g'day |
| 13:58.01 | g1powermac_PB | has an interesting idea for the old mac classic II I got |
| 13:58.23 | g1powermac_PB | I want to install netbsd on it, but without ethernet on it, there isn't much I could do with it |
| 13:59.08 | g1powermac_PB | but, like all old macs, it has two serial ports. . .I'm thinking of sticking one of those microchip serial to ethernet chips to one of the serial ports |
| 14:07.21 | prpplague | gets psych'd up for a REALLY fun engineering meeting today |
| 14:08.26 | GPSFan | prpplague: do you have the source for the win-ce 8750 driver? |
| 14:21.30 | prpplague | GPSFan: no not exactly , but i have plenty of paper trail to talk about |
| 14:21.41 | prpplague | GPSFan: it ought to be interesting |
| 14:21.52 | prpplague | GPSFan: i'll give you a summary afterwards |
| 14:21.57 | g1powermac_PB | prpplague: sounds like fun |
| 14:22.36 | GPSFan | prpplague: k, if you had it you could re-compile for your gpio config and have it playing an mp3 during the meeting... |
| 14:23.10 | prpplague | GPSFan: yea, we have to sign an NDA for the source, but the source is for the WM8753 which is basically the same chipset |
| 14:23.22 | prpplague | GPSFan: the 8753 has some voice codec stuff that the 8750 doesn't |
| 14:23.32 | prpplague | GPSFan: basically just turn off those features in the code |
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| 14:45.10 | CosmicPenguin | Every morning, AMD should play the rocky theme music over the loudspeakers |
| 14:45.27 | CosmicPenguin | everybody would run to the top of the stairs and punch a side of beef |
| 14:45.29 | CosmicPenguin | and the day would begin |
| 14:45.57 | g1powermac_PB | hah |
| 14:47.45 | CosmicPenguin | duhhh-na-nahh |
| 14:49.53 | CosmicPenguin | tosses on the pop dance music from Svweden and starts hacking |
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| 15:38.18 | prpplague | ok that went well |
| 15:38.33 | prpplague | i still have a job, and no one called me any four letter words |
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| 15:48.00 | kergoth`work | morning |
| 15:48.15 | kergoth`work | prpplague: heh, pretty sad when that's all there is to going well |
| 15:48.19 | agaffney | prpplague: heh, did you have a performance review or something? |
| 15:48.48 | prpplague | agaffney: big stink about some audio codec drivers and my primary headache our EE |
| 15:49.21 | agaffney | ah |
| 15:49.29 | agaffney | did you get the EE fired? :P |
| 15:50.27 | prpplague | i wish |
| 15:50.29 | prpplague | but no |
| 15:56.13 | g1powermac | prpplague, well, at least the meeting went without a massive fight :-) |
| 15:56.21 | prpplague | indeed |
| 15:56.40 | prpplague | hey if anyone is interested i have a used nail board and a used hammer board |
| 15:56.47 | prpplague | for sale |
| 15:56.49 | agaffney | did you get to tell all of your bosses about how incompetent the EE is? |
| 15:57.08 | prpplague | agaffney: i didn't come right out, but i had lots of documentation to show it |
| 15:57.29 | agaffney | heh |
| 15:57.41 | g1powermac | prpplague, thats really the best way |
| 15:57.49 | agaffney | maybe he only has to ruin a few more projects before he gets canned.... |
| 15:58.02 | prpplague | nail board $110 and the hammer board with carrier for $90 |
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| 15:58.40 | g1powermac | oops |
| 15:59.06 | RobotGuy | ordered an Arduino Decimilia, Proto Shield kit, 2 BlinkM LEDs, and another JTAG |
| 15:59.21 | prpplague | why another jtag? |
| 15:59.40 | g1powermac | should crack open his new zipit |
| 16:00.16 | RobotGuy | prpplague: So I can work on stuff on both PCs. |
| 16:01.00 | prpplague | ah |
| 16:01.05 | RobotGuy | prpplague: The new JTAG is easier to pack up and take with me too. |
| 16:01.11 | CosmicPenguin | RobotGuy: fun! :) |
| 16:01.19 | RobotGuy | CosmicPenguin: Indeed. |
| 16:01.50 | RobotGuy | I'm going to try and make the Arduino a USB peripheral to Hammer, once I get my software dev envs fixed and working again. |
| 16:01.50 | CosmicPenguin | got his EFX-TEK board yesterday - need to set up the Linux Parallax basic |
| 16:02.04 | kergoth`work | totally OT, but picked up http://www.amazon.com/o/ASIN/1602392331 the other day, pretty nifty |
| 16:02.16 | prpplague | efx-tek ? url?? |
| 16:02.40 | g1powermac | wow, it cracked open incredibly easy |
| 16:02.44 | g1powermac | and I got the new board too |
| 16:02.47 | CosmicPenguin | kergoth`work: one of the OLPC guys is really into that - he believe that when the grid goes down, only the people with skills will win |
| 16:03.04 | kergoth`work | hehe, i dunno about /that/ |
| 16:03.18 | kergoth`work | but i do want a place in the country someday, and some of this could be useful even now, like the gardening and herb stuff |
| 16:03.25 | CosmicPenguin | to be fair, he is from Hawaii - the grid could go down any second |
| 16:03.30 | kergoth`work | hehe |
| 16:03.50 | prpplague | yea, barbados is like that as well |
| 16:03.58 | CosmicPenguin | prpplague: http://www.efx-tek.com/ |
| 16:04.02 | prpplague | kergoth`work: interesting looking book |
| 16:04.07 | prpplague | looks |
| 16:04.20 | g1powermac | prpplague, well, now we'll see if they changed the jtag and serial port pins on the new board |
| 16:04.34 | kergoth`work | i was surprised at the amount and variety of info they managed to cram in there |
| 16:04.47 | CosmicPenguin | Yesterday was christmas in July - I got all my halloween stuff in |
| 16:04.54 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: ahh interesting |
| 16:05.01 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: thought you were going to use a hammer for that |
| 16:05.09 | CosmicPenguin | yeah, I'm sorry |
| 16:05.13 | CosmicPenguin | I went for the lower cost |
| 16:05.18 | kergoth`work | halloween stuff? |
| 16:05.47 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: can't get any cheaper than free |
| 16:05.48 | CosmicPenguin | kergoth`work: I'm doing some animatronics in my yard this year |
| 16:06.18 | kergoth`work | ahh, neat |
| 16:06.19 | RobotGuy | prpplague: I am getting two of these: http://www.sparkfun.com/commerce/product_info.php?products_id=8579 |
| 16:06.44 | prpplague | cute |
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| 16:06.53 | CosmicPenguin | kergoth`work: using a pneumatic cylinder to pop a head above a gravestone - IR triggered |
| 16:06.58 | RobotGuy | They are way cool. :) |
| 16:08.38 | g1powermac | prpplague, interesting, this board has slightly different markings than the known new board we got pictures of |
| 16:08.46 | g1powermac | this could be another batch |
| 16:08.51 | prpplague | g1powermac: ahh |
| 16:08.51 | RobotGuy | This is my Christmas in July, since I ended up with a bit of extra money (rare ocurrance). |
| 16:09.11 | prpplague | g1powermac: i purchased it on ebay, i actually think it was the zipit folks |
| 16:09.20 | g1powermac | could be |
| 16:09.34 | g1powermac | http://www.seattlewireless.net/Zipit2Messenger |
| 16:09.39 | g1powermac | thats the known new one |
| 16:09.44 | kergoth`work | heh, my house is in forclosure, not exactly christmas in july here. need to bail out my dad again, he owes 3 months of house payments |
| 16:09.47 | prpplague | looks |
| 16:09.57 | g1powermac | on the bottom right hand corner is a marking "1/A" |
| 16:10.05 | g1powermac | mine has "2/E" |
| 16:10.23 | prpplague | g1powermac: ahh interesting |
| 16:10.31 | g1powermac | all other markings seem the same |
| 16:10.34 | RobotGuy | prpplague: I still can't figure out why only part of my JFFS2 image is getting flashed to Hammer. |
| 16:10.36 | prpplague | kergoth`work: yea, i'm totally broke myself |
| 16:10.50 | prpplague | RobotGuy: i wish i had time to help |
| 16:10.54 | kergoth`work | i have money in the bank, for now... but it wont be there for long |
| 16:10.55 | kergoth`work | heh |
| 16:10.59 | RobotGuy | sighs |
| 16:11.16 | kergoth`work | finally took the time to calculate what my w4 withholdings should be given my taxes... switched it, now getting $75 more a check |
| 16:11.17 | kergoth`work | <3 |
| 16:11.17 | g1powermac | time to do a little soldering me thinks, I want to test out the serial port |
| 16:11.44 | g1powermac | prpplague, you think I could run a max3233 directly off the power of the z2? |
| 16:11.45 | prpplague | kergoth`work: yea, just changed my insurance up as well |
| 16:11.56 | prpplague | g1powermac: probably |
| 16:12.01 | kergoth`work | think my next bet on saving money is gonna be to ipck up a bread machine |
| 16:12.06 | kergoth`work | glares at this bug |
| 16:12.16 | g1powermac | and do you know where there is a VCC spot I could hook up to? |
| 16:12.29 | prpplague | g1powermac: sorry not off the top of my head |
| 16:12.34 | g1powermac | k |
| 16:12.35 | prpplague | g1powermac: i'd have to grab the board |
| 16:12.44 | prpplague | g1powermac: i have it packed away so i can work on the 8050 |
| 16:12.53 | g1powermac | ahh |
| 16:13.26 | RobotGuy | hates being on the bleeding edge sometimes. |
| 16:13.31 | g1powermac | now this is interesting |
| 16:13.37 | prpplague | needs to clean off his desk |
| 16:13.45 | prpplague | i have like 10 unused lcds |
| 16:13.49 | g1powermac | prpplague, the new board doesn't have the tp's solder masked over |
| 16:14.00 | prpplague | g1powermac: that's helpful |
| 16:14.06 | g1powermac | and they seem to be clearly used compared to the other TPs |
| 16:14.09 | prpplague | anyone need some qvga lcds? |
| 16:14.20 | g1powermac | there's an indentation on them |
| 16:14.26 | RobotGuy | prpplague: How much for one? |
| 16:14.31 | g1powermac | yea, how much? |
| 16:14.54 | g1powermac | and can do I need a LCD controller to control them? |
| 16:14.55 | RobotGuy | prpplague: Are they color or mono? |
| 16:15.17 | prpplague | g1powermac: yea you need a tft controller for them |
| 16:15.20 | prpplague | RobotGuy: color |
| 16:15.23 | RobotGuy | I -almost- ordered one of the 320x240 displays from SFE. |
| 16:15.27 | g1powermac | meh, ok |
| 16:15.41 | g1powermac | has the LCD from his old zipit he could use then :-) |
| 16:15.44 | prpplague | checks to see how many he actually has |
| 16:16.33 | g1powermac | interesting. . .ground pours are different on the new board. . . |
| 16:17.04 | RobotGuy | prpplague: Have you had one of these displays working with Hammer? |
| 16:17.22 | prpplague | hmm, i actually have 4 that i can get rid of 3 standard, and one with ts |
| 16:17.30 | prpplague | RobotGuy: not with the hammer, no |
| 16:17.35 | RobotGuy | What is ts? |
| 16:17.39 | prpplague | touchscreen |
| 16:17.52 | RobotGuy | prpplague: Would they work with hammer? If so, I want ts if prices is right. |
| 16:17.57 | g1powermac | oh, touchscreen. . . |
| 16:18.24 | prpplague | RobotGuy: they _can_ work with the hammer, i doubt you will want to based on your previous comments about kernel dev |
| 16:18.34 | g1powermac | might have to throw one of his old compaq p1's at RobotGuy to get the TS ;-) |
| 16:18.48 | RobotGuy | prpplague: I'm gonna have to do kernel stuff eventually, so no biggie. :) |
| 16:19.10 | g1powermac | and yes, the compaq is made completely out of steel :-) |
| 16:19.16 | RobotGuy | prpplague: How much for the touchscreen model? |
| 16:19.26 | prpplague | RobotGuy: all 4 for $50+shipping |
| 16:19.33 | g1powermac | dang |
| 16:19.41 | RobotGuy | prpplague: Can you accept PayPal? |
| 16:19.44 | prpplague | yep |
| 16:20.02 | g1powermac | prods GPSFan |
| 16:20.05 | RobotGuy | prpplague: SOLD to ME then. Send me your PayPal e-mail |
| 16:20.36 | RobotGuy | grins at g1powermac |
| 16:21.02 | g1powermac | fires up his soldering iron. . . |
| 16:21.25 | prpplague | RobotGuy: /msg me your paypal email address and i'll send you an invoice |
| 16:22.17 | prpplague | looks to see what else needs to go |
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| 16:24.46 | RobotGuy | Woot! Four color displays for the price of one at SFE. :) I will find somebody to help me get them working with Hammer. |
| 16:26.09 | g1powermac | prpplague, if you got any interesting serial stuff, lemme know |
| 16:27.43 | prpplague | g1powermac: nothing else too useful other than the nail board and hammer board |
| 16:30.53 | RobotGuy | No way I am letting go of the touchscreen display. That will be perfect for a project I am working on. |
| 16:31.26 | prpplague | RobotGuy: if i run across anything else i'll stick it in the box |
| 16:31.34 | RobotGuy | prpplague: Excellent. :) |
| 16:32.56 | prpplague | now if can get someone to purchase the nail board and the hammer board |
| 16:33.24 | RobotGuy | I'm going to build a Hammer based wheelchair programmable lighting control and security system. |
| 16:33.25 | prpplague | g1powermac: wonder if anyone over in ##microcontrollers would be interested |
| 16:34.05 | RobotGuy | With touch screen, I won't need an external keypad. :) |
| 16:35.00 | RobotGuy | The same goes for the remote robot console I am designing. |
| 16:35.13 | prpplague | i have 4 or 5 jack hammers, but i can sell them , hehe |
| 16:35.39 | RobotGuy | really wants a Jack Hammer. |
| 16:35.50 | RobotGuy | Can't spend anymore money on toys though. |
| 16:36.04 | g1powermac | prpplague, I'd try it |
| 16:36.38 | g1powermac | man those test point are really small, makes it hard to solder to |
| 16:36.50 | RobotGuy | Now it's time to temporarily remove W.A.L.T.E.R.'s brain for tinkering. :) |
| 16:37.19 | prpplague | g1powermac: indeed thats why i asked if you wanted me to solder them on |
| 16:37.42 | g1powermac | yea |
| 16:37.44 | RobotGuy | I have to do some minor repairs on the body anyway. He didn't survive OSCON completely intact. |
| 16:37.52 | g1powermac | one day I'll get my really small soldering tip |
| 16:38.05 | g1powermac | I should check circuit specialists again to see if they're still out of stock |
| 16:38.35 | RobotGuy | I got a HUGE catalog from DigiKey in the mail. |
| 16:38.50 | g1powermac | aha, they do |
| 16:38.57 | g1powermac | they should send me one. . . |
| 16:40.17 | RobotGuy | I need to find somebody to make me a new set of decks for W.A.L.T.E.R. |
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| 16:43.15 | g1powermac | huh, the max3233 is a really nice chip |
| 16:43.38 | g1powermac | and its 5v brethren, the max3235, is alot better than the max233 |
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| 16:44.37 | RobotGuy | PARTS meeting tomorrow. |
| 16:44.48 | RobotGuy | I hope my chair behaves. |
| 16:46.50 | RobotGuy | g1powermac: Are they available in DIP? |
| 16:47.42 | g1powermac | yup |
| 16:47.46 | g1powermac | thats what I'm using |
| 16:48.32 | RobotGuy | Cool! I will get some the next time I sample from Maxim. |
| 16:48.39 | g1powermac | yup |
| 16:49.08 | g1powermac | I really need to figure out where I can solder a wire to gain access to VCC on the z2 |
| 16:51.33 | RobotGuy | wanders off to get some breakfast and consider how to use the other three color displays. :) |
| 16:51.39 | g1powermac | prpplague, I prolly can't assume using GPSFan's vTarget location for the flyswatter to be VCC, can I? |
| 16:51.58 | prpplague | g1powermac: a easy location might be the miniSD socket |
| 16:52.05 | prpplague | g1powermac: that should have a 3.3v on it |
| 16:52.12 | g1powermac | hmm |
| 16:52.29 | prpplague | not sure if it is switched though |
| 16:52.56 | g1powermac | definitely would be an easy spot to solder |
| 16:53.03 | prpplague | if i have some time this afternoon i'll grab the z2 board |
| 16:53.20 | g1powermac | k, thanks |
| 16:55.25 | g1powermac | should prolly wash his hands after playing with lead solder. . . |
| 16:57.19 | prpplague | naw lead is good for ya |
| 16:58.08 | CosmicPenguin | washing hands isn't going to help |
| 16:58.12 | CosmicPenguin | if it touched you you're already toast |
| 16:58.37 | CosmicPenguin | They had a plutonium leak at the NIST in Boulder a few months ago |
| 16:58.45 | CosmicPenguin | the problem wasn't that they got it on their hands, they have containment for that |
| 16:58.55 | CosmicPenguin | the problem was that they went over and washed their hands in the sink |
| 17:14.14 | GPSFan | g1powermac: could you post a picture of your new z2 board? |
| 17:15.53 | GPSFan | g1powermac: the location I used for vTarget is there as long as there is either battery or the wall wart. you might get away with using the flyswatters vcc, but it is 3.3v whereas the z2 is 3.0v. |
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| 18:13.45 | prpplague | ho ho hum |
| 18:29.29 | g1powermac | GPSFan, hmm |
| 18:29.57 | GPSFan | g1powermac: you looking for a vcc point, or a place to connect vTarget? |
| 18:30.03 | g1powermac | VCC |
| 18:31.44 | g1powermac | I'm looking to power a max3233 from directly the z2 |
| 18:33.10 | GPSFan | ah, you might try the + side of C1178 big electrolytic near L1111 |
| 18:33.50 | g1powermac | ahh, cool, thanks |
| 18:34.00 | g1powermac | and I figure the other side is ground? |
| 18:34.05 | GPSFan | yes |
| 18:34.09 | g1powermac | cool |
| 18:34.23 | GPSFan | check it with your fine ferr multimeter... ;>) |
| 18:34.32 | GPSFan | free that is. |
| 18:35.53 | g1powermac | yea, I have :-) |
| 18:37.40 | g1powermac | hmm, I only get 2.56v across that cap |
| 18:37.50 | g1powermac | though the board is in suspend mode atm |
| 18:41.21 | g1powermac | ok, it does go to 3.3v when on |
| 18:53.22 | GPSFan | yeah, that point is only good when the z2 is powered up. |
| 19:02.46 | g1powermac | is hard wiring the max3233 board to the z2 board with wires running through a hole in the bottom part of the case :-) |
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| 21:17.59 | prpplague | hmm |
| 21:18.05 | prpplague | my yahoo mail seems to be down |
| 21:23.42 | kergoth`work | time to switch to gmail? |
| 21:23.43 | kergoth`work | :P |
| 21:24.32 | prpplague | never had a problem before |
| 21:24.55 | prpplague | kergoth`work: i have everything forwarded from our internal email server so i can just access that for now |
| 21:25.50 | prpplague | lordy lordy |
| 21:26.07 | prpplague | the EE sent me a 27MB source code file |
| 21:26.14 | prpplague | in an email attachment |
| 21:26.17 | prpplague | zip no less |
| 21:27.10 | agaffney | hah |
| 21:27.22 | agaffney | prpplague: just walk down the hall and stab him |
| 21:27.28 | agaffney | it would solve that problem quickly |
| 21:27.57 | kergoth`work | yikes |
| 21:28.27 | prpplague | yea that'd just piss "it" off since he's obviously some undead demon sent from hell to torture me for my sins |
| 21:28.37 | agaffney | there's a reason I have my company's mail server limited to 10MB messages |
| 21:28.50 | agaffney | I should really lower it to 5 :P |
| 21:30.12 | CosmicPenguin | http://vis.cs.ucdavis.edu/~ogawa/codeswarm/ |
| 21:30.28 | CosmicPenguin | Sorry, thats OT but thats just really cool |
| 21:30.48 | CosmicPenguin | here is the codeswarm for coreboot (LinuxBIOS) |
| 21:30.49 | CosmicPenguin | http://vis.cs.ucdavis.edu/~ogawa/codeswarm/ |
| 21:30.51 | CosmicPenguin | oops |
| 21:30.58 | CosmicPenguin | http://stuge.se/coreboot_codeswarm.mp4 |
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| 22:41.18 | prpplague | mnemoc greetings |
| 22:41.30 | prpplague | mnemoc were you interested in that nail or hammer board? |
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| 23:05.16 | SpeedEvil | Hello all! |
| 23:05.22 | SpeedEvil | A somewhat random question. |
| 23:05.32 | SpeedEvil | I have a camera (video module) that's specified as 36dB SNR at 100 lux. What does this mean? It has 100% white response when pointed at a perfect diffuse reflector illuminated by 100 lux? |
| 23:05.41 | SpeedEvil | And at a scene reflecting 10% of light, illuminated by 1 lux, it has a SNR of 6dB? |
| 23:18.40 | SpeedEvil | Thanks. |
| 23:18.42 | SpeedEvil | wave. |
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