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| 02:05.47 | prpplague | ho ho ho |
| 02:05.52 | prpplague | merry freakin friday |
| 02:17.14 | prpplague | what a freakin week |
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| 02:23.14 | agaffney | prpplague: I've been on vacation this week |
| 02:23.34 | agaffney | unfortunately, all the work I have to do will still be waiting for me on monday :/ |
| 02:24.04 | RobotGuy | prpplague: No package. |
| 03:23.56 | prpplague | RobotGuy ok, i'll put a track on it first thing monday |
| 03:24.18 | prpplague | RobotGuy if you don't get it by wed. i'll refund your money +20% |
| 03:26.34 | RobotGuy | OK |
| 03:27.44 | prpplague | is going to try to run red alert under linux |
| 03:29.08 | prpplague | RobotGuy rusty said anymore about the rdp board? |
| 03:41.11 | RobotGuy | prpplague: I haven't seen anything new |
| 03:41.55 | RobotGuy | prpplague: He is changing the design a bit though from what Sienna did. |
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| 06:40.19 | RobotGuy | Hmmm, I could use a CD4051 to multiplex 8 analog inputs to a single Hammer analog input. |
| 06:40.49 | RobotGuy | Unfortunately, that would also take up 3 GPIOs. |
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| 11:39.24 | g1powermac | morning all |
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| 13:48.26 | g1powermac | alright, I got an 888k kernel, 64k bootloader on a 1.4mb floppy |
| 13:48.37 | g1powermac | so that doesn't leave me much room for an initramfs |
| 13:52.59 | chouimat | morning |
| 14:00.12 | g1powermac | hey chouimat |
| 14:01.59 | g1powermac | found a good ole bug in the PMU drivers for these old m68k powerbooks |
| 14:02.12 | g1powermac | it causes the whole machine to shutdown spontaneously during bootup |
| 14:03.18 | chouimat | ouch |
| 14:07.31 | g1powermac | is there a kernel option that tells it to let me control each step it takes during bootup? |
| 14:07.44 | g1powermac | I can never tell what the last message is before it shuts down |
| 14:07.53 | g1powermac | making it hard to debug |
| 14:20.20 | chouimat | ok time to go get some breakfast |
| 14:24.22 | g1powermac | prpplague, you around? |
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| 18:05.08 | g1powermac | does anyone know what this loops per jiffie thing is? |
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| 18:40.41 | RobotGuy | g1powermac: G'Morning |
| 18:41.15 | RobotGuy | I never heard of a "loops per jiffie thing" |
| 18:50.52 | GPSFan | The value of the loops per jiffy variable is derived during the famous "Calibrating delay loop" event when the kernel boots. It's used to calibrate the udelay, and other timer related things. |
| 18:57.08 | g1powermac | hey RobotGuy and GPSFan |
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| 18:57.21 | GPSFan | g1powermac: howdy |
| 19:01.56 | g1powermac | GPSFan, so I've been testing out EMILE on my macs here |
| 19:02.21 | g1powermac | and have discovered an ugly bug with the PMU driver in the linux kernel on my powerbook |
| 19:02.32 | g1powermac | which causes the whole machine to shutdown during bootup |
| 19:02.59 | GPSFan | g1powermac: ugg |
| 19:03.16 | g1powermac | so its really impossible to read the last kmsg before it shuts off |
| 19:03.21 | RobotGuy | thinks about just getting a picoITX and putting Gentoo on it. |
| 19:04.07 | g1powermac | but there is this kernel option under Kernel Hacking called "Delay each boot printk message by N milliseconds" |
| 19:04.38 | g1powermac | the only thing though is that it wants you to pass the kernel the loops per jiffie for your system |
| 19:04.45 | g1powermac | over the kernel command line |
| 19:04.50 | GPSFan | g1powermac: take your video cam and record it and see if you can capture the last message. |
| 19:05.01 | g1powermac | can't |
| 19:05.23 | g1powermac | because the lcd is so old, messages are blurred badly when they scroll |
| 19:06.17 | g1powermac | so its pretty impossible to capture with a video camera |
| 19:06.50 | GPSFan | loops/jiffy are related to clock speed, so figure out something in the ball park and pass it a number and see what happens. |
| 19:07.35 | g1powermac | thats the thing, its specific for the architecture, and I can't find any info for m68k |
| 19:07.37 | RobotGuy | hopes the QVGA displays from prpplague reach him. |
| 19:08.19 | g1powermac | though I just came up with an idea. . . |
| 19:08.41 | g1powermac | I could hook this powerbook up to an external monitor. . . |
| 19:09.48 | g1powermac | I'll have to play with that later |
| 19:20.58 | RobotGuy | I'd rather have the displays than a refund. :) |
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| 21:06.24 | g1powermac | well, external monitor idea doesn't work |
| 21:06.45 | g1powermac | I don't get a picture on the second monitor, it must get initialized later on with mac os |
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| 21:07.21 | g1powermac | though I have now finally got a floppy to completely boot on a system |
| 21:07.38 | g1powermac | at least I know the emile tools are fully working |
| 21:16.15 | g1powermac | wb RobotGuy |
| 21:17.02 | RobotGuy | g1powermac: :D |
| 21:17.12 | RobotGuy | I was going to go out but decided to stay in. |
| 21:22.19 | g1powermac | holy mother of pearl |
| 21:22.30 | g1powermac | my powerbooks battery suddenly came back to life |
| 21:26.30 | g1powermac | holy crap |
| 21:27.03 | g1powermac | a got the boot delay to work and not only that, it stopped the thing from shutting down |
| 21:27.25 | g1powermac | s/a/I |
| 21:27.32 | g1powermac | holy moly |
| 21:28.00 | g1powermac | its definitely an issue with the pmu driver, I seen lots of nasty stuff with it |
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