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| 01:51.11 | sunrunner20 | yo |
| 01:51.27 | sunrunner20 | anybody got a mac that'll run osx they don't want? |
| 01:51.38 | sunrunner20 | (eg will just mail to me at mail cost) |
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| 02:13.55 | Redhatter | Why would someone just toss an OS X-capable mac? Even if they didn't like MacOS X, usually if they run that OS, they run Linux at an awesome pace. |
| 02:14.29 | Redhatter | Or Winblows via Boot Camp (heaven forbid) |
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| 03:38.42 | prpplague | mmmm blood diamond is on |
| 03:40.44 | RobotGuy | G'Day |
| 03:41.55 | prpplague | they did such a good job with the accent and the slang |
| 03:44.15 | prpplague | orders some west indian movies |
| 04:02.02 | agaffney | Redhatter: I assume he was referring to a ppc box |
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| 04:28.08 | RobotGuy | is working with some others on a new Arduino IDE. |
| 04:28.56 | RobotGuy | Durn, ran out of hydrocodone earlier. :( |
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| 11:58.38 | g1powermac | morning all |
| 12:03.27 | RobotGuy | G'Mornin' |
| 12:05.23 | g1powermac | heya RobotGuy |
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| 15:29.10 | sunrunner20|prom | if( breakfast < satisfactory) { Make("Cheese quesadillas");} |
| 15:42.32 | solar | if (out_of_food) goto sunrunner_house; |
| 15:42.55 | g1powermac | nah, nah, lemme correct that for you |
| 15:43.23 | g1powermac | if (out_of_food) goto raid_sunrunner_house; |
| 15:43.31 | prpplague | just finished cooking breakfast his boss lady |
| 15:44.06 | solar | prpplague: I just realized you sent the stk500 and not the stk100. Thats cool. |
| 15:45.31 | prpplague | hehe |
| 15:45.44 | prpplague | solar did i mark it wrong on the invoice? |
| 15:46.03 | solar | you marked it correct. I just somehow got it in my mind it was the 100. |
| 15:46.23 | solar | think it might of been the documeation that went along |
| 15:46.29 | prpplague | ahh ok |
| 15:46.46 | solar | what do you use the 8515L's for? |
| 15:46.55 | prpplague | wonders if 11am is too early for beer |
| 15:47.01 | prpplague | i guess i could make it a light beer |
| 15:47.36 | prpplague | solar i don't recal us using a 8515 in anything |
| 15:48.05 | solar | oh. Maybe it just came with it. Cuz there was two 8515L's that you sent along with it |
| 15:48.37 | prpplague | yea, the stk500 came with a couple of each of the major parts |
| 15:49.46 | [g2] | prpplague: it's 5 O'clock somewhere :) |
| 15:51.08 | prpplague | 11:00am - 0 == 1:10pm right?? |
| 15:51.38 | prpplague | or maybe 11:00am >> 1 =1:10pm ?? |
| 15:51.55 | solar | the time does not matter. Only the number of hours you have been awake. So If you woke up at 9am. You get to wait till noon. If woke up at 6am. Then 9am is good to go. |
| 15:52.14 | prpplague | ahh 3 hour rule eh? |
| 15:52.23 | solar | knowing that you are a pops. Chance are you woke up around 5:45am |
| 15:52.34 | solar | so green light |
| 15:52.37 | [g2] | :) |
| 15:52.53 | prpplague | actually both mine are 10 and 11, so they know not to wake daddy saturday morning, hehe |
| 16:06.10 | prpplague | hehe, you can take a geek out of google, but you can't put a google geek into a "vanity fair" party |
| 16:06.19 | prpplague | man there is gonna be some fall out from that |
| 16:08.27 | joe_bleau | Fall out from what? |
| 16:13.34 | prpplague | joe_bleau google was co-sponsoring a charity even with "vanity fair" magazine |
| 16:14.13 | prpplague | joe_bleau a bunch of the google geeks showed up and the hollywood press boo'd them and then the vanity fair people basically wouldn't talk to them or be seen with them |
| 16:16.46 | prpplague | solar darn no beer for me yet, wife has a "honey-do" list a mile long |
| 16:16.58 | prpplague | "i thought this was suppose to be a holiday weekend?" |
| 16:17.37 | solar | ack. Your online ppl have a smaller-list :P (arduino-linux buildroot hybryid thingy) |
| 16:18.01 | prpplague | yep |
| 16:18.27 | prpplague | solar still want a new rev of the 5930? |
| 16:18.47 | solar | yep |
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| 16:18.57 | solar | can two of them be paired? |
| 16:19.16 | prpplague | sorry did no understand your question |
| 16:19.21 | prpplague | s/no/not |
| 16:20.09 | solar | can two of m5930 talk to each other over the BT? |
| 16:20.18 | prpplague | solar ahh yep sure can |
| 16:20.47 | prpplague | solar actually up to 7 can talk to one unit |
| 16:20.50 | solar | one to one only or one to many? |
| 16:20.53 | solar | ahh ok |
| 16:21.21 | solar | and can the other 6 talk to 6 more? |
| 16:21.22 | prpplague | solar well i already started on the schematic changes |
| 16:21.37 | solar | was trying to get the demo of eagle installed but not having much luck getting past the demo licence stuff |
| 16:21.54 | solar | that seems to be the defacto standard. |
| 16:22.01 | prpplague | solar yea eagle is kind difficult to get installed under linux |
| 16:22.12 | prpplague | solar once you get it running it is solid |
| 16:22.28 | prpplague | solar someone did a eagle footprint for the hammer |
| 16:23.51 | solar | heh. whoops. looks like eagle is a dynamic executable. LD_PRELOAD to the rescue |
| 16:27.56 | prpplague | http://www.tincantools.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=498 |
| 16:29.36 | prpplague | hmm, is the sanguino in a 40-dip package or pdip? |
| 16:30.34 | solar | yes |
| 16:30.40 | solar | pdip |
| 16:32.45 | solar | http://sanguino.cc/ (note the last paragraph of the page) |
| 16:33.13 | solar | there we go. the eagle has landed. |
| 16:33.26 | solar | I needed to chown me:me /opt/eagle -R |
| 16:34.49 | prpplague | its 40-pin pdip right? |
| 16:36.42 | solar | The ATmega644P is the 40 DIP they use |
| 16:38.07 | prpplague | checks atmel |
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| 16:39.34 | prpplague | yea pdip |
| 16:40.10 | prpplague | solar i was thinking i could do a board for the altoid case that you could populate with either a atmega644 or a hammer |
| 16:40.24 | prpplague | solar the hammer is 40 pin dip, and the atmega644 is pdip |
| 16:40.44 | prpplague | solar which means the holes for the pdip can fit inside the section for the dip |
| 16:41.40 | prpplague | if i had it to do over, i think i'd match the atmega644 pins almost identically for the hammer |
| 16:41.50 | solar | pinouts would not be the same I'd think got alot of the common stuff. Would there be jumpers on the board to tell it how to behave and which traces to take?. |
| 16:42.54 | prpplague | solar yea, you'd have to configure it as one or the other, but alot of the pins have common items, such as the spi and i2c are similiar |
| 16:43.54 | prpplague | solar i'm gonna do a starter schematic based on the 5930 that will have the basic atmega128 , then look at making some changes to add hammer support |
| 16:44.26 | prpplague | solar what shall we refer to the 5930 rev3 boards as? |
| 16:45.05 | solar | is rev3 the aml version or yours? Who's hours are you doing it on? |
| 16:45.44 | prpplague | solar you currently have rev 2 , i'm doing rev3 as my own on my own time |
| 16:46.06 | solar | I have a Rev.C |
| 16:46.20 | sunrunner20 | guys? |
| 16:46.35 | sunrunner20 | anybody have a mac they don't want lol |
| 16:46.40 | prpplague | solar yea, sorry, you have an engineering version |
| 16:46.47 | prpplague | solar for you with would be rev.d |
| 16:47.15 | prpplague | solar i.e. all the pins brought out, minus the usb stuff |
| 16:49.05 | solar | happen to have a pic of the non-enginering version (Maybe with cables) outside of the plastic? |
| 16:50.42 | prpplague | solar nothing handy, i'll do one on tuesday |
| 16:51.12 | prpplague | solar engineering versions are the same as production, we just use letters to indicate that it was for inhouse |
| 16:51.28 | solar | oh |
| 16:52.17 | prpplague | solar for example |
| 16:52.17 | solar | was thinking that you might of used diff connectors and the such |
| 16:52.18 | prpplague | solar we do a board rev-A, it works, so we go to production as rev-1 |
| 16:52.39 | prpplague | solar we find a bug, so we do a rev-b, but the bug fix doesn't work so we do rev-c, the fix works so we go to production with rev-2 |
| 16:52.55 | solar | thats why this one has all the soldering fixups. Do you do a smaller batch of the rev-1 before really putting them into production |
| 16:53.11 | solar | if the kinks are thought to be worked out from the prev rev |
| 16:53.32 | prpplague | solar yea, we usually do a batch of 10-20 |
| 16:54.18 | prpplague | solar so techincally, your rev-c is identically to the production rev-2 |
| 16:55.50 | solar | can you put some holes on the board so it can be secured to things? |
| 16:56.15 | prpplague | yep, already done, for 3-32 holes in each of the corners |
| 16:56.58 | prpplague | really the only thing left, is to decide how to group and place the headers for the pins |
| 16:57.04 | solar | so we are clearly talking about two boards you plan to work on. |
| 16:57.32 | prpplague | solar yea, one is the atmega128-bt |
| 16:57.44 | solar | 1) being the m5930 and the other being the altoids/hammer/atmega644 hybrid |
| 16:57.53 | solar | 2) in there somewhere ^ |
| 16:58.03 | g1powermac | hmm, anyone know of any company still making DIP sram chips? |
| 16:58.12 | prpplague | g1powermac not i |
| 16:58.13 | prpplague | solar yea |
| 16:58.23 | prpplague | solar the two will be very close in schematics |
| 16:58.24 | g1powermac | maybe plcc? |
| 16:58.34 | solar | both of which fit nicely in the altoids tin |
| 16:59.08 | prpplague | yep |
| 17:00.12 | prpplague | the arduino mindset is starting to sink in |
| 17:00.27 | prpplague | i'm seeing how more hobbists want their boards |
| 17:02.44 | solar | I kinda like that my given app is more or less the entire OS. so coding became fun for me again |
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| 17:09.31 | GPSFan | g1powermac: hey.. are you going to be albe to get me shipping labels sent out for your mac stuff before Tues? |
| 17:10.30 | g1powermac | GPSFan, prolly not, I'll hopefully be able to get them to you later next week if thats alright with you |
| 17:10.51 | GPSFan | g1powermac: yeah that's fine, just wanted to know what wasup. |
| 17:11.19 | g1powermac | yea, things are a bit crazy here at this point |
| 17:11.25 | GPSFan | indeed.. |
| 17:15.17 | prpplague | solar indeed that is why i like bootloader development |
| 17:15.26 | prpplague | solar thats my favorite |
| 17:15.31 | RobotGuy | I like the whole Arduino thing. Something real easy to tinker with. Now, I see more possibilities for my ARM7 boards too. :) |
| 17:15.45 | prpplague | solar u-boot has gotten where it is almost like a small OS, which for looses the fun factor |
| 17:16.37 | RobotGuy | is going to take another shot at getting a good Gentoo environment. |
| 17:17.20 | RobotGuy | prpplague: Are there any good ARM7 bootloaders? |
| 17:18.11 | prpplague | apex and u-boot work great |
| 17:18.56 | RobotGuy | Cool. Can I use the same APEX binary I build for Hammer? |
| 17:19.10 | roxfan | hammer is arm9 i think |
| 17:19.27 | RobotGuy | roxfan: Yes, it is. |
| 17:19.37 | roxfan | probably not then |
| 17:20.09 | RobotGuy | roxfan: Same compiler is supposed to work for both. |
| 17:20.22 | roxfan | the compiler yes, binary don't think so :) |
| 17:20.46 | roxfan | i.e. you'd have to recompile it |
| 17:21.17 | roxfan | they probably have some differences in initial setup... |
| 17:21.28 | RobotGuy | Different compiler options for each then? |
| 17:22.24 | roxfan | i guess |
| 17:23.48 | prpplague | RobotGuy the bootloader has to work on a very low level with the hardware, so every bootloader binary is going to be different, in additon the hammer is arm9 and you asked about arm7 |
| 17:23.53 | roxfan | you probably also need to set the board configuration... memory ranges etc |
| 17:24.09 | prpplague | RobotGuy if you think getting a kernel running is hard, try a bootloader |
| 17:24.25 | RobotGuy | Ahhhh, OK, I think, more complicated than I thought. |
| 17:24.56 | prpplague | RobotGuy there are probably less that 250 people doing open source bootloader dev in the world |
| 17:25.22 | RobotGuy | I only need to know one of them.. :D |
| 17:25.26 | prpplague | maybe another 1000 for the windows and other proprietary OS bootloaders |
| 17:25.55 | RobotGuy | Both my ARM7 boards have USB. |
| 17:26.15 | RobotGuy | NXP LPC2148 |
| 17:26.28 | prpplague | having usb hardware and having a usb stack are two different things |
| 17:26.31 | g1powermac | prods in there with his little work he's done with EMILE ;-) |
| 17:26.34 | RobotGuy | I know. |
| 17:26.35 | joe_bleau | I've done at least two bootloaders for our company projects--do I make the list? |
| 17:26.55 | RobotGuy | OK, about 251 then. :) |
| 17:27.06 | prpplague | joe_bleau hehe open source? or proprietary? |
| 17:27.25 | joe_bleau | Closed source, commercial compilers, no source available to the outside world. |
| 17:27.39 | RobotGuy | There are at least two USB stacks for my boards. |
| 17:27.40 | prpplague | yea, you'd go into the 1001 |
| 17:27.56 | joe_bleau | Yes! I'm on the list! What do I win? |
| 17:28.10 | g1powermac | joe_bleau, nothing of course ;-) |
| 17:28.14 | solar | you win getting to help RobotGuy |
| 17:28.19 | g1powermac | hahah |
| 17:28.21 | prpplague | joe_bleau hehe, one ticket to the next vanity fair party |
| 17:28.31 | RobotGuy | Uh oh, he's in beeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeg trouble then.. |
| 17:28.50 | joe_bleau | They'd never let me past the rope. |
| 17:28.56 | g1powermac | so do I get in the 250 list on the OSS side? ;-) |
| 17:28.57 | RobotGuy | sighs |
| 17:29.22 | g1powermac | oh wait, I also did stuff with GRUB |
| 17:29.25 | roxfan | http://www.embeddedrelated.com/groups/lpc2000/show/25965.php ahah |
| 17:29.36 | g1powermac | I did some work fixing a bug in graphical menu system |
| 17:29.58 | joe_bleau | Wait, I did some work on u-boot for the PPC walnut hack. Can I be in both lists, or is it an XOR? |
| 17:30.26 | g1powermac | joe_bleau, once proprietary, always proprietary ;-) |
| 17:30.45 | g1powermac | ducks ;-) |
| 17:31.15 | prpplague | g1powermac you just hacked up an existing one right? |
| 17:31.19 | joe_bleau | No need to duck, I'm not religious about this stuff. |
| 17:31.43 | g1powermac | prpplague, yea, hacked a bit of GRUB and currently trying to figure out how EMILE works |
| 17:32.27 | prpplague | that figure was mainly for those who either port a bootloader to a new platform, or write one from scratch |
| 17:32.54 | g1powermac | not sure why, but I have a small interest with bootloaders |
| 17:32.55 | prpplague | its one thing to tweak a boot option, its another to get the bootloader going |
| 17:33.08 | prpplague | g1powermac bootloaders totally fascinate me |
| 17:33.10 | g1powermac | oh no, this hack wasn't just a boot option |
| 17:33.39 | prpplague | g1powermac hehe, if it was a core issue, i'd put you on the list, hehe |
| 17:33.48 | g1powermac | there was a nasty bug in GRUB with the graphical patch that caused total failure on some machines |
| 17:34.00 | prpplague | hmmm |
| 17:34.12 | prpplague | uh, reading the grocery list |
| 17:34.18 | prpplague | eggs, milk, bacon |
| 17:34.21 | solar | missing beer? |
| 17:34.30 | g1powermac | me and a few others traced down the problem |
| 17:34.33 | prpplague | cheese, lunch meat, diet pepsi |
| 17:34.36 | g1powermac | and fixed it up |
| 17:35.01 | prpplague | macronni, condoms, biscuits |
| 17:35.07 | prpplague | uh wait |
| 17:35.24 | g1powermac | *blinks* |
| 17:35.30 | prpplague | g1powermac thats what i did |
| 17:35.46 | prpplague | "honey? you have plans you didn't tell me about?" |
| 17:35.55 | solar | sounds like you have a job to do |
| 17:36.47 | prpplague | solar we like to joke around alot with stuff like that |
| 17:37.06 | solar | oh good one then |
| 17:37.19 | prpplague | solar all of the bottle caps from the beer i drank last night are in her purse, she's gonna find that out when we head to the store shortly, hehe |
| 17:37.39 | solar | heh. |
| 17:37.44 | g1powermac | heh |
| 17:37.57 | g1powermac | hrmm |
| 17:38.15 | g1powermac | has a nice organic hard apple cider in the fridge I really want to try |
| 17:38.20 | g1powermac | can't drink it though |
| 17:38.44 | g1powermac | not with the stuff I'm on and the condition of my gallbladder |
| 17:38.45 | prpplague | solar ok, so i'm going to tinker with the altoid case this afternoon to see how the best way to mount the main new atmega128-BT board inside |
| 17:38.45 | solar | reminds me of when my dsl modem broke. They wanted me to send the modem back. When I did I put every hot pepper pack I had in the house from 4+ years of ordering pizzas |
| 17:38.54 | prpplague | solar did you have any thoughts on that? |
| 17:39.07 | prpplague | solar HA |
| 17:39.25 | g1powermac | solar, oh dear |
| 17:39.46 | prpplague | solar now that is a good idea |
| 17:39.56 | prpplague | thinks we should order pizza tonight |
| 17:40.05 | solar | always a good idea |
| 17:40.17 | solar | kids love it. You love it. Less mess |
| 17:40.17 | g1powermac | slaps prpplague |
| 17:40.25 | prpplague | or we could get one of those giant pizzas to bake in the oven from walmart |
| 17:40.26 | g1powermac | I want pizza but cant have it, dang it! |
| 17:40.46 | g1powermac | I can't eat anything with any substantial amount of fat in it atm |
| 17:40.55 | RobotGuy | We have Papa Murphy's Take 'n Bake here. They make it, you take it and bake it at home. |
| 17:40.58 | solar | soycheese |
| 17:41.15 | g1powermac | solar, thats what I'd use, but there's still alot of fat in it |
| 17:41.26 | prpplague | g1powermac trust me in another 20 years, after drinking beer, eating high cholestral foods, i'll probably be limited to gruel |
| 17:41.36 | solar | what types of fats do you need to avoid? |
| 17:41.43 | RobotGuy | 18 minutes or so in the oven and you have a better pizza than what could be delivered hot. |
| 17:41.44 | g1powermac | solar, all at this point |
| 17:42.03 | prpplague | g1powermac leaves out alot of the women in kentucky |
| 17:42.08 | g1powermac | solar, till the surgery on Tuesday and a few days after |
| 17:42.14 | solar | ahh |
| 17:42.23 | g1powermac | prpplague, hehe, hrmm, wouldn't want them anyway ;-) |
| 17:42.29 | solar | I was going to say. Not every diet should remove all fats. |
| 17:42.55 | g1powermac | solar, oh yea, this is just temporary so I don't get another gallstone attack between now and Tuesday |
| 17:43.23 | solar | so mostly grains/fruit till then? |
| 17:43.26 | g1powermac | yup |
| 17:43.50 | g1powermac | it killing me not to eat any nuts and seeds. . .man I loved almond butter and walnuts. . . |
| 17:45.21 | g1powermac | goes off to have some apple sauce. . . |
| 17:45.49 | prpplague | ok channel poll: should prpplague shave his 11 year old sons head bald today? |
| 17:46.15 | prpplague | looks like he has a 70's afro right now |
| 17:46.18 | g1powermac | no |
| 17:46.20 | solar | only if the child has lice. Otherwise leave a little fur on top |
| 17:46.34 | solar | the otherwise shortest setting |
| 17:46.39 | g1powermac | or fleas ;-) |
| 17:47.01 | g1powermac | dang dog of mine needs flea meds really bad atm. . . |
| 17:47.09 | prpplague | hehe |
| 17:47.44 | solar | hair helps protects the scalp. And you are in the sun down there. So taking a bic to the kids head might be overkill |
| 17:48.32 | prpplague | hehe, not actually use a razor, just one of those trimmers |
| 17:54.59 | solar | oh then yep. |
| 17:55.03 | prpplague | http://imagebin.org/25310 |
| 17:55.32 | prpplague | http://imagebin.org/25311 |
| 17:56.09 | solar | hrmm. I'm not getting imagebin.org to resolve |
| 17:58.14 | prpplague | thats odd |
| 17:58.27 | prpplague | http://imagebin.org/25312 |
| 18:01.10 | solar | from anything going thru sfo bandwith across 4 boxes. Nero netwrok can find it. |
| 18:01.29 | prpplague | that is interesting |
| 18:01.37 | solar | ok found them via a rdp session to germany |
| 18:01.45 | prpplague | might be block or something, i've had trouble with imagebin.ca lately |
| 18:03.10 | prpplague | we are a family of joksters |
| 18:03.19 | solar | heh. The boy seems to like to pose for the camera. Yep thats a fro |
| 18:03.46 | prpplague | he does indeed |
| 18:04.43 | prpplague | ok soon for departure time |
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| 18:56.58 | RobotGuy | My kitty is such a scaredy cat. |
| 18:57.10 | RobotGuy | Only thing she isn't scared of is me. |
| 18:57.21 | agaffney | one of my cats is scared of everything...including me |
| 18:57.28 | agaffney | if you approach him, he runs |
| 18:57.33 | agaffney | but he'll come up to you just fine |
| 18:57.38 | agaffney | and run away from everyone else |
| 18:59.34 | RobotGuy | Everything at Maker Shed is 20% off until Sunday!! |
| 18:59.51 | solar | http://www.powerchair-review.fsnet.co.uk/tankchair.htm <-- nice |
| 18:59.55 | RobotGuy | My kitty likes to attack my feet, usually when she wants to play. |
| 19:02.13 | RobotGuy | OMG, I want one of those! |
| 19:02.23 | RobotGuy | grins |
| 19:02.49 | solar | seen these http://www.ibotnow.com/ ? |
| 19:03.26 | solar | was seaching for sealed AGM batterys when I saw some cool wheelchairs off some link |
| 19:03.52 | solar | few that can balance like the segways. Or even stand up |
| 19:06.03 | RobotGuy | That's pretty cool too, but I'd rather have the tank chair. ;) |
| 19:08.21 | RobotGuy | I'll be getting http://www.pridejazzy.com/jazzyselect14xl.shtml but I should *really* be gettinghttp://www.pridejazzy.com/600.shtml |
| 19:12.35 | RobotGuy | I have http://www.goldentech.com/roll/compass/index.html now, and it's been a major problem ever since I've had it (almost two years). |
| 19:13.36 | solar | haha nice http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KPTcKbM4qKw |
| 19:15.19 | RobotGuy | Interesting - that chair has lights similar to what I want on mine, but I want more. |
| 19:16.39 | RobotGuy | I'd like to put a full motorcycle light kit on my chair. ;) |
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| 19:17.13 | RobotGuy | Madsy: Hi |
| 19:20.11 | Madsy | hey |
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| 22:45.30 | prpplague | well i picked up a didj at the store |
| 22:46.40 | RobotGuy | Oooooo, shiny.. |
| 22:47.03 | RobotGuy | How long did it take you to analyze the innards? |
| 22:47.38 | prpplague | about 10 minutes |
| 22:47.51 | prpplague | process has the arm logo on it as well as leapfrog |
| 22:47.58 | prpplague | nothing else |
| 22:47.59 | RobotGuy | I thought so. :) |
| 22:48.21 | RobotGuy | Hmmmm, but it is supposed to be 393 MHz, which -could- mean an s3c2440a |
| 22:48.49 | RobotGuy | Or an OMAP, which seems to be finding its way into a lot of things lately. |
| 22:49.22 | prpplague | i some how doubt that leaf frog is using an off-the-shelf processor |
| 22:49.44 | RobotGuy | Hmmmmm, that would kind of suck, wouldn't it? |
| 22:50.27 | prpplague | indeed, which is the same as the original leapster |
| 22:50.45 | prpplague | i'll depopulat the processor on tuesday |
| 22:50.59 | RobotGuy | I can hardly wait! :D |
| 22:51.16 | prpplague | see if can use the usb lines as map and see if can compare those to some know arm9 processors |
| 22:52.33 | prpplague | the cartridge is large |
| 22:53.16 | RobotGuy | I wonder just how much is in the cartridge. Lots of air maybe? |
| 22:57.53 | prpplague | appears to be a single nand flash |
| 22:59.26 | prpplague | yea appears to be an umarked sandisk nand flash |
| 22:59.36 | prpplague | looks to be 8-bit addresses |
| 23:00.08 | joe_bleau | Who used the ARC processor core? I was thinking leapfrog, but I must have been wrong. |
| 23:00.12 | RobotGuy | 8 bit for ARM9? |
| 23:00.47 | joe_bleau | Sounds right for NAND. |
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| 23:04.15 | prpplague | RobotGuy pretty much all nand flash is either 8 or 16 bit |
| 23:04.22 | prpplague | RobotGuy for the address space |
| 23:07.27 | RobotGuy | Oh, OK, didn't know that. |
| 23:09.28 | joe_bleau | Any obvious jtag port? |
| 23:09.33 | prpplague | yea, i think i'm gonna have to dump the cartridge to find out whats on the device |
| 23:09.39 | prpplague | joe_bleau nothing jumps out so far |
| 23:09.42 | prpplague | still looking |
| 23:11.11 | joe_bleau | Wonder if the cartridge code is crypto signed, or if it's be an easy entry point. |
| 23:11.24 | prpplague | joe_bleau yep think i found it |
| 23:12.15 | prpplague | looks like it might be doable, gonna have to destroy 3 or 4 units probably |
| 23:12.53 | joe_bleau | Found...jtag? |
| 23:13.11 | prpplague | joe_bleau yea, looks pretty good as jtag |
| 23:13.46 | joe_bleau | Well, whatcha wait for, then? swat that fly. |
| 23:13.58 | prpplague | need more info first |
| 23:14.42 | joe_bleau | Such as? |
| 23:15.45 | prpplague | i need to check the i/o power first, i suspect that its running on 1.8v |
| 23:15.59 | prpplague | i also need to check out the reset circuit |
| 23:16.42 | prpplague | looks like they used some programming pads on one end of the pcb |
| 23:21.33 | joe_bleau | Hmm. I've been told that everyone programs flash in circuit using JTAG. What do you think those pads are for? |
| 23:22.28 | prpplague | yea, i suspect they are jtag |
| 23:22.39 | prpplague | they have 22ohm resistors inline, which is pretty standard for jtag |
| 23:23.25 | prpplague | joe_bleau when i said "programming pads" i just meant the pcb pads were designed to be used either with a needle bed, or spring contacts |
| 23:23.48 | prpplague | RobotGuy have you seen any mention of the specs on the usb port for the didj? |
| 23:24.01 | RobotGuy | prpplague: Not so far. |
| 23:24.31 | prpplague | ok, so it still could be a samsung processor |
| 23:26.18 | roxfan | what's didj? |
| 23:26.26 | RobotGuy | How did ya know I've been looking? |
| 23:27.27 | prpplague | you mentioned it earlier |
| 23:27.38 | prpplague | roxfan new handheld from leapfrog |
| 23:27.38 | roxfan | nvm found it |
| 23:29.23 | prpplague | yea these 6 pads run directly to the cpu |
| 23:31.36 | prpplague | shoot don't have the 2440 datasheet here at the house |
| 23:31.53 | prpplague | ahh found it |
| 23:33.35 | RobotGuy | What do you need to know. I can bring up the 2440 datasheet. |
| 23:34.14 | prpplague | i found one |
| 23:34.20 | RobotGuy | Oh, OK, good. |
| 23:38.43 | prpplague | doesn't look to match up with a 2440 |
| 23:39.42 | RobotGuy | I was really hoping for a 2440, but you probably figured that. :) |
| 23:46.35 | roxfan | do you have any program for figuring out jtag layout or you do it manually by trial and error? |