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| 06:08.32 | shaz | hi |
| 06:16.33 | shaz | anybody awake :o) |
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| 06:22.56 | shaz | hi |
| 06:23.15 | shaz | RobotGuy how r u doing |
| 06:24.37 | RobotGuy | shaz: Hello |
| 06:24.48 | RobotGuy | I'm doing fine, thanks. You? |
| 06:39.38 | shaz | I am new here so tell me what do u do |
| 06:51.02 | RobotGuy | Well, this channel is mostly for discussions of ARM based embedded systems, but we also stray off frequenty into other technical and non-technical topics. |
| 06:51.26 | RobotGuy | Welcome to the channel. :D |
| 06:52.13 | RobotGuy | This is a great channel to learn about embedded systems, especially ARM7 and ARM9. However there are very knowledgeable people here who know other systems also. |
| 06:52.53 | RobotGuy | prpplague is the creator of this channel and is extremely knowledgeable in embedded systems of all sorts. |
| 06:53.52 | RobotGuy | I just mostly hang out here and try to absorb as much as I can from the various conversations. I also write up stuff for the TinCanTools Hammer Wiki as I learn more about Hammer and work with it. |
| 06:54.20 | RobotGuy | http://www.tincantools.com and the Wiki is at http://www.elinux.org/Hammer_Board |
| 06:54.33 | RobotGuy | OK, I'll stop now. :D:D |
| 06:55.15 | RobotGuy | I am not employed by TinCanTools. I just really like their products. :) |
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| 07:12.47 | [AD]Turbo | yo |
| 07:54.06 | methril | hola |
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| 09:40.47 | shaz | Whats special about Hammer boards? |
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| 10:08.15 | RobotGuy | The Hammer is a complete full Linux system in a 40 pin DIP. |
| 10:12.55 | RobotGuy | methril: Greetings |
| 10:13.28 | RobotGuy | shaz: http://www.elinux.org/Hammer_Board |
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| 10:32.51 | methril | <RobotGuy> Greetings |
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| 10:41.28 | RobotGuy | methril: How goes everything? |
| 10:46.28 | methril | well, work |
| 10:46.47 | methril | i have to change my Linux work for other 8bit MCUs propietary sw :( |
| 10:47.16 | methril | but i hope that only get a ip based protocol working and i could get back to Linux systems :D |
| 10:47.36 | methril | and your WALTER? |
| 10:54.34 | RobotGuy | methril: I havenot done to much work on him recently. Have you seen the new top arm omages? |
| 11:08.56 | methril | omageS? |
| 11:11.36 | RobotGuy | images. :p |
| 11:11.40 | methril | where? |
| 11:12.00 | methril | no i haven't |
| 11:12.07 | RobotGuy | Couple places. http://www.thedynaplex.info/serendipity is one. |
| 11:13.01 | RobotGuy | I have all the brackets to complete the arm now. However, I am pretty sure I am going to need at least one more HS-645MG servo instead of using an HS-475HB. |
| 11:14.17 | methril | ey!! this blog is new for me :) |
| 11:17.31 | RobotGuy | methril: I've been writing on it for a few weeks. |
| 11:17.44 | methril | i'm taking a look |
| 11:22.03 | solar | wakes up looks around and opts to go back to bed |
| 11:24.35 | RobotGuy | hasn't been to bed yet |
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| 11:31.53 | g1powermac | http://linux.slashdot.org/linux/08/09/01/0023245.shtml |
| 11:31.55 | g1powermac | nice |
| 11:35.15 | RobotGuy | At least some companies do what they say they'll do. |
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| 12:00.48 | quickdev | Hey |
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| 13:11.04 | shaz | <RobotGuy> You know the link was very helpful. I managed to surf into a page that got me steps to get Debian running on an ARM versatilepb emulation on Qemu. |
| 13:11.40 | shaz | I had been messing around with Cross compile as a rookie and although learned alot but never got my apps working ;o) |
| 13:12.18 | shaz | Now I'll do native builds before things are more clear. |
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| 15:43.45 | RobotGuy | shaz: Glad I could help. :) |
| 15:46.33 | solar | has a 4 node qemu/distcc setup for the versatile target |
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| 15:51.41 | RobotGuy | sneaks in and saps off some of that computing power. :) |
| 15:53.33 | solar | RobotGuy: I've got an insane number of spare cpu cycles. |
| 15:54.40 | solar | for years I've been looking for somebody that could take advantage of ~200 Dual Dual/ Dual Quad cores for a few weeks for computational tasks |
| 15:55.30 | solar | never really seen anybody step up. So fallback has to been run stuff like seti@home and folding@home few a few weeks while we burn in new blades |
| 15:58.38 | RobotGuy | solar: I could use some of them. ;) |
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| 18:34.23 | T0mW | anyone here every use one of those Huntsville Microsystems ISE units? With SourceGate? |
| 18:34.37 | T0mW | s/every/ever |
| 18:35.29 | T0mW | I just cannot believe that an expensive unit like this has no ability to reference data symbols (e.g. display memgood) |
| 18:39.35 | MothaWork | I'm not sure that the constant nag screens to upgrade to FF3 (which I detest) on Windows builds had their intended effect on me |
| 18:39.44 | MothaWork | I went and downloaded opera |
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| 19:50.57 | RobotGuy | I think my DSL modem is flaking out on me, and this was a brand new replacement for one that was doing the same thing. |
| 19:52.31 | MothaWork | perhaps it is not the DSL modem, but rather the DSL line |
| 19:53.56 | RobotGuy | MothaWork: The line has been exhaustively tested. Same thing happened with my original modem. Line looked golden as it does now, but bandwidth throttled between modem and PC. I'm only getting 86/786 kBits upstream. |
| 19:54.09 | RobotGuy | s/786/768 |
| 19:54.48 | MothaWork | perhaps that is intentional on the part of your ISP |
| 19:55.11 | RobotGuy | Nope. I am paying for 6 MBit/768 kBit DSL |
| 19:55.11 | MothaWork | it is very difficult to find an ISP that doesn't fudge with your stuff these days |
| 19:55.17 | MothaWork | doesn't mean they'll deliver it |
| 19:55.25 | MothaWork | I paid for 16/2 with Comcast |
| 19:55.28 | MothaWork | usually saw about 1/0.,5 |
| 19:55.38 | RobotGuy | You got to be kidding.. |
| 19:55.42 | MothaWork | nope |
| 19:55.53 | RobotGuy | You mean 10/.5? |
| 19:56.05 | MothaWork | next time, get an SLA (and be prepared to pay through every oriface on your body for it) if you want what you pay for |
| 19:56.08 | MothaWork | no, I mean 1/0.5 |
| 19:56.15 | MothaWork | sometimes I'd get lucky and I'd see 2 |
| 19:56.19 | RobotGuy | Hmmm, that sucks. |
| 19:56.28 | MothaWork | large apartment complex |
| 19:56.57 | RobotGuy | I should be getting (5000 - 5300)/(550 - 620) |
| 19:57.17 | RobotGuy | I have SpeakEasy's OneLink DSL - no land line phone. |
| 19:57.26 | MothaWork | just because the line links up at something doesn't mean the ISP can deliver |
| 19:57.35 | MothaWork | SpeakEasy used to be very good. Then Best Buy bought them |
| 19:57.41 | RobotGuy | Speed Tests are pretty reasonable to check that. |
| 19:57.57 | MothaWork | speed tests to a neutral party? |
| 19:58.01 | MothaWork | or are you using the speakeasy speed test? |
| 19:58.03 | RobotGuy | Best Buy bought SpeakEasy???? I never knew that. :( |
| 19:58.07 | MothaWork | ISPs are well known to flat out lie |
| 19:58.10 | MothaWork | yeah, several years ago |
| 19:58.13 | RobotGuy | Independent speed tests |
| 19:58.30 | MothaWork | well, if you see what you expect in a speed test, then I'd say nothing is wrong |
| 19:58.35 | MothaWork | perhaps the other end just can't keep up |
| 19:58.35 | RobotGuy | Speedtest.net is pretty good. |
| 19:58.56 | RobotGuy | I do not see what I'd expect though, at least for upload speed. |
| 19:59.15 | RobotGuy | SpeakEasy speed tests show the same thing. |
| 19:59.38 | MothaWork | and it used to work fine? |
| 19:59.44 | MothaWork | then suddenly it just broke? |
| 20:00.31 | RobotGuy | No, it's been broke for weeks apparently. I just hadn't noticed it enough to make me check it until this week. I should keep a tighter eye on that, and will from now on. |
| 20:01.44 | MothaWork | all I can say is to avoid crappy consumer grade networking gear like the plague |
| 20:01.55 | MothaWork | I've never had that sort of stuff last more than a couple years |
| 20:01.58 | RobotGuy | I would if I could afford it. |
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| 22:51.12 | key2 | prpplague: ping? |
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| 23:35.47 | RobotGuy | I had good internet for about 15 minutes today and then the problem came back. |
| 23:36.28 | RobotGuy | The really weird part is my upload speed on all tests is exactly 86. |
| 23:37.09 | RobotGuy | It should be in the neighborhood of 600 - 650 kBits |
| 23:46.16 | sunrunner20 | the upload is ususally given in kbytes. |
| 23:47.15 | RobotGuy | It's kBits here. |
| 23:47.56 | RobotGuy | No, wait, I think you are right about the upload.. 768 kBytes |
| 23:48.16 | RobotGuy | The speed tests are all kBits though. |
| 23:48.26 | RobotGuy | OR MBits |
| 23:49.35 | sunrunner20 | http://www.speakeasy.net/speedtest/ |
| 23:49.43 | RobotGuy | Been there a lot today. |
| 23:49.55 | sunrunner20 | ok |
| 23:49.59 | RobotGuy | Enough to make my head hurt. |
| 23:50.01 | sunrunner20 | they are one of the _few_ accurate ones |
| 23:50.12 | RobotGuy | SpeakEasy is my ISP. |
| 23:50.18 | sunrunner20 | lol |
| 23:50.45 | RobotGuy | I always try to confirm through an independent. |
| 23:51.01 | solar | don't have any open wifi at your house or anything do ya? |
| 23:51.04 | sunrunner20 | i've got a 15/2 |
| 23:51.17 | sunrunner20 | ^_^ |
| 23:51.19 | RobotGuy | No, I don't. Haven't fixed my WiFi router yet. |
| 23:51.36 | RobotGuy | Can you legitimately run servers?? |
| 23:51.52 | sunrunner20 | depends |
| 23:51.59 | RobotGuy | Depends on what? |
| 23:52.06 | solar | the SLA |
| 23:52.06 | sunrunner20 | just on the regular ports :P |
| 23:52.52 | RobotGuy | Because they block everything else?? |
| 23:53.06 | solar | they tend to frown upon running commericial stuff off the non business dsl |
| 23:53.21 | sunrunner20 | only incomeing 80 and ftp(21 or 23 i don't rememeber) |
| 23:53.28 | solar | if you are just running apache/postfix/ssh and a few other things it tends to not be a big deal |
| 23:53.30 | RobotGuy | solar: Of course. I have residential, but I can also run servers legitimately here. |
| 23:53.49 | RobotGuy | Any port(s). |
| 23:54.11 | solar | I've not noticed any of my ports being filtered |
| 23:54.14 | sunrunner20 | + dynamic IP makes it a PITA |
| 23:54.17 | sunrunner20 | for me |
| 23:54.28 | solar | in or out. My IP is fixed from them. |
| 23:54.32 | RobotGuy | I have 8 static IPs. |
| 23:55.27 | sunrunner20 | solar: personally I think blocking standard ftp and http port is very reasonable |
| 23:55.56 | sunrunner20 | lol |
| 23:55.56 | sunrunner20 | fail |
| 23:56.03 | sunrunner20 | 008 Speakeasy, Inc. A Best Buy Company. All rights reserved. |
| 23:56.18 | solar | yeah they got bought out about a year ago |
| 23:56.34 | RobotGuy | That's about when I started having problems too. |
| 23:56.35 | solar | I've seen no real changes to service |
| 23:57.14 | sunrunner20 | RobotGuy: ditto, when our old isp got bought out the admin who knew what he was doing was like "*#$&U@* this" and left |
| 23:57.21 | sunrunner20 | he even said that on the forum |
| 23:57.29 | RobotGuy | I believe it. |
| 23:57.37 | sunrunner20 | and |
| 23:57.50 | sunrunner20 | I was like dad, we need to leave |
| 23:57.56 | sunrunner20 | when there was porn posted on the forums |
| 23:57.59 | sunrunner20 | for 9 months |
| 23:58.14 | RobotGuy | Geesh |
| 23:58.24 | sunrunner20 | yea |
| 23:58.36 | sunrunner20 | if they new company isn't going to monitor the forums, take them down |
| 23:58.57 | RobotGuy | Well, sometimes users can help each other. |
| 23:59.04 | solar | finding them can be tricky when you aquire other ISP's |
| 23:59.40 | sunrunner20 | you still need somebody to go though the forums and delete all the shit random people post |