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| 02:34.01 | prpplague^2 | ho ho hum |
| 02:34.10 | joe_bleau | Hola. |
| 02:50.16 | Madsy2 | Morning. |
| 03:14.11 | Mirell | So I had to finally buy a new car. |
| 03:14.16 | Mirell | I feel poor. |
| 03:14.47 | joe_bleau | I feel your pain--I'm looking (without much luck) too. |
| 03:44.02 | Mirell | joe_bleau: I ended up getting a Mazda 3. |
| 03:44.16 | Mirell | I got no-interest loan, but it's a 36 month payoff, so pain. |
| 03:45.05 | joe_bleau | A friend bought one too. (I'm not a new car guy, so I'll be paying cash.) |
| 03:45.06 | MonMotha | Mazda 3 is a VERY nice car |
| 03:45.15 | MonMotha | my parents actually have two! |
| 03:45.42 | Mirell | I wuv it. |
| 03:45.57 | Mirell | It's still sporty like my Mustang, but I actually have, like, a real trunk and backseat! |
| 03:45.57 | MonMotha | you get the sport package? |
| 03:46.03 | Mirell | Nah |
| 03:46.12 | MonMotha | it makes a difference, not that it isn't peppy without it |
| 03:46.23 | Mirell | I was coming from 17MPG 10 year old convertible 'stang. |
| 03:46.26 | joe_bleau | Think you'll regret switching from RWD to FWD? |
| 03:46.41 | MonMotha | ah, well, the gas mileage will be way better |
| 03:46.48 | MonMotha | 35MPG mixed is doable |
| 03:46.57 | Mirell | joe_bleau: No, because the RWD handled like crap in rain. |
| 03:47.13 | MonMotha | more like 30 usually for mixed, though. Highway is 33-38 in my experience. |
| 03:47.19 | Mirell | Yah |
| 03:47.25 | MonMotha | <3 his AWD |
| 03:47.37 | Mirell | Compared to 20-22MPG highway previously. |
| 03:47.39 | MonMotha | and no, it's not a truck |
| 03:47.48 | Mirell | Hehe |
| 03:47.59 | joe_bleau | I went from FWD to RWD, and I found it a much better rain car. |
| 03:48.06 | Mirell | Interesting. |
| 03:48.22 | Mirell | Mine basically threatened to fish-tail all the time. |
| 03:48.23 | MonMotha | rain performance depends as much on tires as drive |
| 03:48.32 | MonMotha | however, in SNOW, I'll take FWD or AWD over RWD any day |
| 03:48.40 | joe_bleau | But I have a fraction of a mustang's torque, an LSD, and really good tires. |
| 03:48.45 | Mirell | Although I'll have to totally recalibrate my ice/snow thing. |
| 03:49.06 | Mirell | Because as soon as I lose traction in a RWD, I just let off the gas and don't broke |
| 03:49.08 | MonMotha | I love torque, but it can bite in poor weather |
| 03:49.10 | Mirell | Er, brake |
| 03:49.25 | Mirell | Apparently you need to keep accelerating with a FWD |
| 03:49.38 | MonMotha | depends on the nature of the traction loss |
| 03:50.10 | MonMotha | keeping a little power on the wheels can help steering since there is less of a difference between tire speed and ground speed them |
| 03:50.12 | MonMotha | *then |
| 03:50.17 | joe_bleau | 2 door, 4 door, hatchback? |
| 03:50.24 | Mirell | joe_bleau: 4 door |
| 03:50.34 | Mirell | Hatchback was nice, but around $2K more |
| 03:50.48 | joe_bleau | Buddy's is the 4 door hatch. |
| 03:50.55 | Mirell | Yah |
| 03:51.01 | MonMotha | my mom has a hatchback Mazda 3. It's a very handy car. Plenty of cargo room but still sleek and maneuverable. |
| 03:51.36 | Mirell | I had that as a rental actually 2 years ago when someone rear-ended me and my car was in the shop for two weeks, because the dealer was lazy, but I wasn't paying anything, so whatever |
| 03:51.51 | Mirell | 'swhen I fell in love with the Mazda 3s |
| 03:52.44 | Mirell | Only thing I don't understand is why the back pockect only exits on the driver's seat |
| 03:52.48 | MonMotha | they're great little cars |
| 03:53.00 | Mirell | I wonder if they just put it on the wrong seat for my car. |
| 03:53.03 | MonMotha | and I do mean that. Mazda GLC :) |
| 03:53.35 | Mirell | Hehe |
| 03:54.17 | MonMotha | just remember, loss of traction is fun! ...until you hit something |
| 03:54.26 | Mirell | Indeed. |
| 03:54.41 | Mirell | It's a completely foreign skill where I currently live though. |
| 03:54.57 | Mirell | Austin, Texas. They were literally going bat crazy when we got .5 inches of snow. |
| 03:54.57 | MonMotha | I don't exactly have much opportunity to do things like that |
| 03:55.03 | Mirell | Good ol' Austin, Texas. |
| 03:55.10 | MonMotha | nor do I want to subject my tires to it on dry pavement |
| 03:55.14 | MonMotha | heh |
| 03:55.17 | MonMotha | Fort Wayne, IN |
| 03:55.26 | Mirell | Bit more chance for that skill then |
| 03:55.35 | MonMotha | 5 inches of snow might cause problems for a few hours in the morning until they get it plowed |
| 03:55.49 | joe_bleau | But down south, we don't really have snow plows. |
| 03:55.53 | joe_bleau | Or snow tires. |
| 03:55.55 | MonMotha | I am aware |
| 03:56.00 | joe_bleau | Lots of times, we get ice, not snow. |
| 03:56.02 | Mirell | Yah, amusing thing when we got a bad ice storm (for Austin) a few years ago, |
| 03:56.10 | Mirell | They put gravel on the roads. |
| 03:56.15 | Mirell | Not salt. Or sand. |
| 03:56.18 | Mirell | GRAVEL. |
| 03:56.18 | joe_bleau | And if you only get snow a few days a year, it's tough to build any skill. |
| 03:56.23 | MonMotha | um...that's not exactly the best idea |
| 03:56.32 | Mirell | Yeeeah. |
| 03:56.39 | MonMotha | small gravel can work, but sand and salt are the best |
| 03:56.51 | MonMotha | small gravel is mostly useful as a spot traction agent if you get stuck |
| 03:56.58 | MonMotha | i.e. keep a bag of kitty litter in your trunk |
| 03:57.08 | Mirell | At least in Arkansas, where I'm originally from, they had attachments to the garbage trucks to put down salt/sand and plow snow. |
| 03:57.18 | joe_bleau | Shoot, some of us run summer tires all year round. |
| 03:57.26 | joe_bleau | Hey, where in AR? |
| 03:57.32 | Mirell | Little Rock. |
| 03:57.37 | MonMotha | joe_bleau: I run all season tires year round |
| 03:57.46 | joe_bleau | I'm in western AR. |
| 03:57.48 | MonMotha | though I'm thinking of going split when I get new tires here soon |
| 03:57.56 | Mirell | joe_bleau: My condolences. |
| 03:58.12 | MonMotha | tires up here cost MONEY if you want something usable |
| 03:58.23 | joe_bleau | Really? Why? I doubt it's as bad as LR, but still... |
| 03:58.30 | MonMotha | since good tires that are usable year round with decent performance are hard to make right |
| 03:59.24 | Mirell | joe_bleau: I don't really know much in Western, other than Arkadelphia/Hope, that's south western. And Fayetville for north-western. Then ten billion small towns. |
| 03:59.42 | Mirell | Well, and Maumelle for north-western. Conway too. |
| 04:00.21 | Mirell | I'm just not a small town guy, heh. |
| 04:05.30 | MonMotha | I find it difficult to find work in a small town |
| 04:05.52 | MonMotha | other than "telefreelancing" which is expensive, difficult, and unreliable |
| 04:12.07 | ds2 | MonMotha: depends on the area where the small town is located |
| 04:13.27 | MonMotha | ds2: to an extent, yes |
| 04:13.51 | MonMotha | I tend to prefer to live in smallish suburbs of larger (but not huge) cities |
| 04:14.07 | MonMotha | I actually do live within Fort Wayne proper, but I'm on a suburban edge |
| 04:14.15 | ds2 | MonMotha: grass valley is a small town but close enough to the silly valley to do 2days out of a week in silly valley |
| 04:14.31 | MonMotha | if you go about 10 minutes north of me, you're in corn fields |
| 04:14.35 | ds2 | OTH, Elko, NV.... :) |
| 04:14.49 | MonMotha | if you go 10-20 minutes south, you're in downtown |
| 04:15.17 | MonMotha | telecommuting seems to have not caught on so much in the midwest as on the coasts |
| 04:21.31 | bjorkBSD | do any of you use x86 processors in embedded apps? |
| 04:21.43 | joe_bleau | I don't. |
| 04:22.13 | bjorkBSD | which OS do you use with your ARM processor, joe_bleau? |
| 04:22.45 | joe_bleau | Bare metal on ARM and H8. RTXC on 68k for other stuff. |
| 04:49.00 | ds2 | x86 and embedded.... hehe... why not also use a yugo as a tractor |
| 04:50.46 | solar | uses a http://www.soekris.com/net4521.htm as his home router |
| 05:16.31 | Mirell | joe_bleau: Out of curiousity, what do you do, if not telecommuting, in west Our Kansas? |
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| 06:16.42 | MonMotha | ds2: x86 does find some "embedded" applications in one-off type scenarios. That's the PC104 market in a nutshell, it seems. |
| 06:17.32 | MonMotha | It can lower software dev time for houses not accustomed to working on "other" architectures and who are not in a cost sensitive or high volume application. |
| 06:31.21 | ds2 | or low power |
| 06:31.40 | ds2 | but yes, I am aware of that segment... did quite a bit of stuff in that arena |
| 06:32.44 | ds2 | ne of the biggest problems we had was dealing with the thermals |
| 06:50.25 | joe_bleau | Mirell: embedded programming, electronics design, that sort of thing. |
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| 07:16.39 | Mirell | joe_bleau: Ahh |
| 07:17.37 | joe_bleau | I can't complain, but I'm sure I'd make a lot more money in a big city. |
| 07:18.06 | joe_bleau | Around here, I don't know of any tech type making six figures, unless they own their own company. |
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| 07:59.54 | MonMotha | ds2: indeed. We had somebody who was on a "small form factor PC" that had tons of issues with overheating |
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| 20:52.18 | landley | Hello world. |
| 20:53.24 | HcE | hello mars ;) |
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| 21:16.29 | solar | afternoon |
| 23:32.41 | L_Deluxe | evening |