| 00:02.44 | prpplague | lordy lordy, tomorrow is gonna be soooo much fun |
| 00:03.16 | prpplague | samuel1 when do we get to find out what you are working on? |
| 00:04.21 | prpplague | HcE when did you sneak in here? hehe |
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| 00:23.26 | peterpan | all these people and not a word |
| 00:24.19 | MonMotha | prpplague: I'm asking somebody who might |
| 00:24.23 | MonMotha | it's all GUI stuff, right? |
| 00:30.35 | MonMotha | prpplague: he is apparently too busy |
| 00:35.39 | prpplague | MonMotha doh |
| 00:35.48 | prpplague | MonMotha hehe |
| 00:36.23 | MonMotha | most of the people I know are likely to be that way |
| 00:37.25 | prpplague | same here |
| 00:38.05 | prpplague | we really need to get a windowsCE |
| 00:38.54 | MonMotha | I definitely can't help you there |
| 00:39.08 | MonMotha | the only person I know who's ever touched WinCE hates it |
| 00:39.38 | MonMotha | apparently it makes some of the most hackish parts of Linux look downright divinely conceived |
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| 01:04.41 | ds2 | heh.. this is an interesting label - Input DC 5.0V, 450mA; Output DC 6.0V 500mA +/- 5% |
| 01:04.55 | ds2 | apparently this voltage converter creates energy on the process |
| 01:12.06 | Ian_Daniher | ds2: I'll buy it from you! |
| 01:12.09 | Ian_Daniher | :P |
| 01:12.12 | Ian_Daniher | hot damn |
| 01:13.19 | prpplague | ds2 hehe |
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| 02:34.03 | MonMotha | ds2: I'll take a dozen! |
| 02:41.16 | prpplague | hands MonMotha some eggs |
| 02:41.30 | MonMotha | I wanted a dozen of those mysterious power converters |
| 02:43.22 | ds2 | this is the item but mine is labeled as 500mA out |
| 02:43.24 | ds2 | http://www.dealextreme.com/details.dx/sku.2649 |
| 02:44.53 | MonMotha | ds2: taken it apart by chance? |
| 02:45.05 | MonMotha | If the output voltage is adjustable with a resistor change or similar, that might be useful for other purposes |
| 02:45.27 | prpplague | indeed |
| 02:47.12 | ds2 | MonMotha: no, not yet |
| 02:47.21 | ds2 | it is ultrasonically welded and I just got it today |
| 02:47.39 | ds2 | what do most people use to open ultrasonically welded plastic cases? |
| 02:47.55 | prpplague | ds2 heheh i love ultrasonic wielding |
| 02:48.05 | MonMotha | ds2: dremel or hacksaw |
| 02:48.10 | MonMotha | or just throw it at the ground repeatedly :) |
| 02:48.18 | ds2 | prpplague: you got a machine to do it? ;) |
| 02:48.20 | prpplague | ds2 elinux has page for you |
| 02:48.45 | ds2 | MonMotha: what blade do you use on the dremel? I tried the cut off disk and it went through it faster then kids and candy |
| 02:48.54 | ds2 | went through the pile of disks |
| 02:49.58 | MonMotha | ds2: I've always used a cutoff wheel |
| 02:50.06 | MonMotha | takes some getting used to |
| 02:50.17 | MonMotha | I mount the "subject" in a vise or similar and use two hands on the dremel |
| 02:50.29 | MonMotha | it really does go right through it, so you have to keep control |
| 02:50.45 | MonMotha | and the wheel will be ruined when you're done from melty plastic, but it'll still work for cutting plastic |
| 02:50.59 | ds2 | my hands must not be steady enough cuz I shatter a lot of disks |
| 02:51.08 | MonMotha | yeah, I've not done that on plastic |
| 02:51.12 | MonMotha | now, PCBs I've shattered a couple on |
| 02:51.18 | MonMotha | downright dangerous when you do that, too |
| 02:51.49 | prpplague | ds2 we have the ones that were posted just recently as toys |
| 02:51.59 | prpplague | looks for the url |
| 02:52.06 | ds2 | just a good reminder to wear safety glasses |
| 02:52.26 | ds2 | sharp fragments from a 20Krpm source is not good for flesh |
| 02:52.46 | MonMotha | indeed |
| 02:54.11 | prpplague | ok |
| 02:54.37 | prpplague | hearby gives notice, he is no longer present for discussion this evenign |
| 02:55.11 | prpplague | http://www.gizmodo.com.au/2008/08/working_plasticwelder_toy_for_kids_sounds_like_lawsuitinwaiting-2.html |
| 02:55.21 | prpplague | thats what we have |
| 02:59.26 | ds2 | looking |
| 02:59.42 | ds2 | btw, is it safe to dd a zImage into the right MTD partition on the hammer? |
| 03:02.06 | prpplague | yep |
| 03:02.10 | prpplague | you can do that |
| 03:02.27 | prpplague | dd is reliable on nand flash |
| 03:02.41 | ds2 | eh? |
| 03:02.47 | ds2 | there is NAND on the hammer? |
| 03:02.59 | prpplague | nop[e |
| 03:03.02 | prpplague | nope |
| 03:03.06 | prpplague | only nor |
| 03:03.11 | ds2 | <prpplague> dd is reliable on nand flash |
| 03:03.12 | ds2 | ???? |
| 03:03.22 | prpplague | ds2 ok disregard |
| 03:03.32 | prpplague | has had too much red wine |
| 03:03.37 | ds2 | ah okay =) |
| 03:03.46 | prpplague | s/is/isn't |
| 03:03.48 | ds2 | out of fermented grains? |
| 03:04.16 | prpplague | nor flash is memory mapped with 1:1 ratio with alot of checks |
| 03:04.22 | prpplague | nand is without those |
| 03:04.35 | prpplague | so doing a dd isn't assured of successs |
| 03:04.53 | ds2 | *nod* familiar with it... nandwrite is the safe way...just surprised you brought up NAND |
| 03:05.15 | ds2 | my beagle board has block #3 bad so upgrading u-boot was an adventure |
| 03:07.07 | prpplague | please forgive me guys, today at the office was particulary stressful |
| 03:08.23 | prpplague | heads to bed |
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| 03:33.15 | ds2 | heh... looks like the same one ratshack used to sell - |
| 03:33.17 | ds2 | http://shopping.discovery.com/product-65898.html |
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| 07:09.40 | HcE | prpplague: Tue Aug 12 14:28:33 2008 ;) |
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| 07:13.55 | [AD]Turbo | hola |
| 07:14.13 | methril|work | hola |
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| 14:25.45 | prpplague | lordy lordy |
| 14:26.01 | prpplague | both my girls are sick, been up since 4am |
| 14:28.21 | wmat | prpplague: ouch |
| 14:29.10 | samuel1 | prpplague: Double ouch - my sympathies. |
| 14:31.16 | wmat | prpplague: I may have someone for the WinCE stuff, but I need more details |
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| 14:34.13 | prpplague | wmat: hehe, i'll know more this afternoon |
| 14:34.22 | wmat | prpplague: OK |
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| 14:34.50 | prpplague | wmat: probably nothing more than taking a bsp for a board and getting it running on reference platform |
| 14:35.02 | prpplague | wmat: maybe a driver or two for some serial type devices |
| 14:35.20 | wmat | prpplague: ok, i'll check if he can do that |
| 14:35.35 | wmat | why did I think it was GUI work? |
| 14:35.49 | wmat | that was obviously the poky stuff |
| 14:36.02 | prpplague | wmat: two different jobs |
| 14:36.44 | wmat | right |
| 14:36.58 | prpplague | ho ho hum |
| 14:37.12 | prpplague | this mornings engineering meeting has been cancelled |
| 14:37.24 | prpplague | don't know if that is a good or bad omen |
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| 14:39.49 | prpplague | for those following the LeapFrog didj stuff, i heard from my source that a tarball will be made available soon |
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| 17:27.58 | wmat | prpplague: my prospect bailed already, said he's too busy |
| 17:29.13 | prpplague | wmat: np |
| 17:38.12 | MothaWork | prpplague: have those responsible for the engineering been sacked? |
| 17:38.46 | CosmicPenguin | heh |
| 17:39.07 | prpplague | i think the EEdiot is going today |
| 17:40.09 | CosmicPenguin | Thats going to be an interesting exit interview |
| 17:40.28 | prpplague | indeed |
| 17:40.40 | chouimat|work | "So long and thanks for all the fish" |
| 17:42.34 | CosmicPenguin | What is this - british humor day? |
| 17:42.46 | chouimat|work | CosmicPenguin: yup :) |
| 17:42.48 | CosmicPenguin | first a monty python reference, then Douglas Adams? |
| 17:42.57 | CosmicPenguin | If anybody mentions Dame Edena, I am so out of here |
| 17:43.05 | chouimat|work | CosmicPenguin: who? |
| 17:44.15 | chouimat|work | http://uncyclopedia.org/wiki/Uncyclopedia:Anniversaries/September_12 |
| 17:44.57 | CosmicPenguin | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dame_Edna |
| 17:45.17 | chouimat|work | CosmicPenguin: ook :) |
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| 18:12.13 | GPSFan | prpplague: hackaday is back... |
| 18:14.09 | prpplague | cool |
| 18:18.41 | prpplague | ~nslookup www.hackaday.com |
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| 20:33.04 | prpplague | GPSFan: you able to pull up hackaday? |
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| 20:35.21 | sunrunner20 | >_> |
| 20:35.36 | sunrunner20 | every time I leave remote desktop up |
| 20:35.41 | sunrunner20 | on my laptop to my desktop |
| 20:35.47 | sunrunner20 | and rd back to my laptop |
| 20:35.55 | sunrunner20 | thinks get SOOO confused |
| 20:36.51 | sunrunner20 | (btw, remote desktop on my lapppy should have realized it lost its connection and died ages ago) |
| 20:38.11 | GPSFan | prpplague: yep, several new articles today. |
| 20:38.21 | prpplague | i still can't get to it |
| 20:38.28 | prpplague | just takes me to a wordpress site |
| 20:39.19 | GPSFan | it'w ip wasn't even resolving till after lunch today. |
| 20:42.06 | prpplague | GPSFan: what name server are you using? |
| 20:42.43 | GPSFan | prpplague: uhh, my local isp's dns |
| 20:43.39 | prpplague | np |
| 20:43.44 | prpplague | tries a public dns |
| 20:44.27 | prpplague | hmm same thing, directly to a wordpress site |
| 20:46.09 | GPSFan | prpplague: http://imagebin.ca/view/3MMg8J.html |
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| 21:17.45 | prpplague | GPSFan: hehe i believe you, just wondering why my dns isn't working |
| 21:18.29 | prpplague | GPSFan: what ip address does it resolve to? |
| 21:18.37 | prpplague | ~nslookup hackaday.com |
| 21:18.44 | prpplague | ~nslookup www.hackaday.com |
| 21:19.00 | ds2 | prpplague: it does not resolve for me |
| 21:19.34 | ds2 | take that back, it resolves on one network |
| 21:20.38 | ds2 | hmmm last DNS update was at 11SEP but it looks like some servers are still caching the old info updated on the 7th |
| 21:24.13 | MothaWork | there are many DNS servers out there that flat out ignore TTL |
| 21:24.21 | MothaWork | many enforce a minimum approaching a week |
| 21:24.51 | ds2 | I usually allow for about 48 hours for things to propagate |
| 21:25.27 | MothaWork | well, what was the TTL on the old record? |
| 21:27.59 | prpplague | hmm, i think g1powermac_PB is going to with the bet pool |
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| 21:40.10 | prpplague | landley: greetings |
| 21:40.40 | prpplague | well, the EEdiot is in the boss's office |
| 21:40.44 | MothaWork | prpplague: this the pool on when the EEdiot gets canned? |
| 21:40.53 | landley | waves at prpplague. |
| 21:40.57 | CosmicPenguin | Remember, its bad form to glat |
| 21:40.59 | CosmicPenguin | gloat |
| 21:41.09 | landley | CosmicPenguin: not always. |
| 21:41.10 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: yes in deed |
| 21:41.11 | CosmicPenguin | though you don't have much to gloat about |
| 21:41.14 | ds2 | old SOA record: |
| 21:41.16 | ds2 | hackaday.com. 0 IN SOA ns57.domaincontrol.com. dns.jomax.net. 2008090700 28800 7200 604800 86400 |
| 21:41.20 | CosmicPenguin | this guy pretty much got you all fired |
| 21:41.30 | prpplague | MonMotha: yep, all done |
| 21:41.34 | ds2 | new SOA: |
| 21:41.41 | ds2 | hackaday.com. 300 IN SOA ns1.wordpress.com. hostmaster. |
| 21:41.42 | ds2 | wordpress.com. 2008091101 14400 7200 604800 300 |
| 21:41.53 | landley | CosmicPenguin: fired? What did I miss? |
| 21:41.55 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: yea i know, i think we have a single chance left to recover from this |
| 21:42.14 | CosmicPenguin | then, attack good sir |
| 21:42.15 | landley | needs to be online in the 9-5 range on weekdays more often. |
| 21:42.24 | landley | (And not 9pm to 5am.) |
| 21:43.13 | chouimat|work | :) |
| 21:43.59 | prpplague | landley: the EEdiot was told to exit the building |
| 21:44.08 | chouimat|work | prpplague: really? |
| 21:44.13 | ds2 | prpplague: is he getting an armed escort? |
| 21:44.31 | prpplague | looks |
| 21:44.51 | prpplague | yea looks like they are waiting for him to pack up |
| 21:45.00 | ds2 | wow |
| 21:46.19 | CosmicPenguin | so, anyone else going to LPC? |
| 21:47.38 | ds2 | CosmicPenguin: I am |
| 21:48.28 | landley | prpplague: wow. |
| 21:48.30 | landley | Congratulationos. |
| 21:48.33 | landley | Is it too late? |
| 21:48.36 | ds2 | CosmicPenguin: are you staying at the recommended hotel? |
| 21:48.49 | chouimat|work | goes home |
| 21:48.51 | chouimat|work | later |
| 21:49.13 | CosmicPenguin | no - I'm at the Embassy Suites |
| 21:49.19 | CosmicPenguin | I'm sharing with an OLPC engineer |
| 21:49.41 | ds2 | wonder how many people from OLPC will be there |
| 21:49.49 | CosmicPenguin | I can think of at least three |
| 21:50.03 | ds2 | all 3 remote to Portland? |
| 21:50.31 | CosmicPenguin | no, dsaxena is in portland (as I'm sure you know) |
| 21:50.57 | ds2 | was trying to figure out if you were counting him or not |
| 21:51.14 | CosmicPenguin | Its a grey area.. :) |
| 21:51.20 | ds2 | hahahahahah |
| 21:51.22 | CosmicPenguin | Chris Ball and Jim Gettys will be there |
| 21:51.26 | CosmicPenguin | from Boston |
| 21:51.46 | ds2 | is there suppose to be stuff on Tuesday? |
| 21:51.51 | landley | I've mostly heard about LPC from Val Henson's blog. Not going, though. |
| 21:52.16 | CosmicPenguin | I think there is a joint kernel summit / LPC party on Tuesday |
| 21:52.35 | landley | There holding a kernel summet in the US??? |
| 21:52.37 | ds2 | but to attend that you would have to be registered in the morning right? |
| 21:52.44 | ds2 | i.e. you need the badget to get into it |
| 21:52.44 | landley | I thought they stopped doing that last decade... |
| 21:53.12 | prpplague | landley: we are right on the edge |
| 21:53.42 | CosmicPenguin | ds2: I'm not sure how that works - the schedule says that there is a student mini-conference on Tuesday |
| 21:53.55 | prpplague | landley: at this stage, they want to finish the project, and get it done |
| 21:53.55 | CosmicPenguin | presumably the registration desk will be open for the rest of us |
| 21:54.01 | ds2 | CosmicPenguin: good, thought I was the only one confused |
| 21:54.51 | landley | prpplague: I've stayed at a lot of companies out of loyalty to the project instead of the company. |
| 21:55.03 | ds2 | any word on if it is sold out yet? from their last mail, there is a chance it may not sell out |
| 21:55.12 | landley | It goes "project, coworkers, company" in that order. With project and coworkers almost tying, really... |
| 21:55.13 | CosmicPenguin | ds2: I'm guessing we'll get an email, if not we can pump one of the "organizers" for information |
| 21:55.17 | CosmicPenguin | ds2: I haven't heard |
| 21:55.33 | prpplague | landley: yea, the big question is whether this has totally ruined AML's engineering, there has been talk about completely outsourcing |
| 21:56.27 | ds2 | CosmicPenguin: when are you showing up? |
| 21:56.40 | CosmicPenguin | ds2: my flight arrives at 2:00 PM |
| 21:56.47 | ds2 | Mon or Tue? |
| 21:56.51 | CosmicPenguin | Tue |
| 21:57.22 | prpplague | landley: yea, i think management is going to give us a chance to fix things |
| 21:57.35 | ds2 | CosmicPenguin: you know a lot of people going? |
| 21:57.36 | prpplague | landley: we'll see if they keep us after that, hehe |
| 21:58.35 | CosmicPenguin | ds2: Not personally no, but I know there will be a good cross selection of the community |
| 22:01.41 | ds2 | should be nice associating faces with the email addresses from the lists then |
| 22:01.46 | CosmicPenguin | brb - time to kick the VPN |
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| 22:06.32 | landley | Heading out to dinner... |
| 22:06.46 | prpplague | landley: later |
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| 22:42.23 | prpplague | solar http://tincantools.com/prpplague/linux-2.6.25-8050.tar.gz |
| 22:49.03 | solar | thank you |
| 22:49.22 | solar | hoe that contains a kernel .config |
| 22:49.25 | solar | hope |
| 22:49.43 | prpplague | two |
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| 23:08.28 | prpplague | ho ho hum |
| 23:21.40 | CosmicPenguin | <PROTECTED> |
| 23:26.40 | prpplague | "just oopsed all over the place" hmm aren't their diapers for that? |
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| 23:29.47 | GPSFan | prpplague: sorry I had to go out and get my growlers filled ;>) ping hackaday.com |
| 23:29.47 | GPSFan | PING hackaday.com (72.232.101.40) ping www.hackaday.com |
| 23:29.47 | GPSFan | PING hackaday.com (76.74.254.125) |
| 23:29.49 | prpplague | lordy lordy what a week |
| 23:30.27 | prpplague | GPSFan weird |
| 23:30.49 | GPSFan | prpplague: indeed. |
| 23:30.51 | g1powermac | yay, finally finished the chain link fence today |
| 23:31.08 | prpplague | GPSFan what kind of brew did you get? |
| 23:31.16 | GPSFan | g1powermac: now you are free to go get cut up? |
| 23:31.24 | g1powermac | http://www.flickr.com/photos/77471288@N00/ |
| 23:31.36 | g1powermac | meh, if we can ever get it all worked out |
| 23:32.40 | GPSFan | prpplague: a hoppy IPA like brew with some local apples. a dark almost stout, and a not quite as hoppy IPA. |
| 23:33.05 | prpplague | nice |
| 23:44.42 | g1powermac_PB | GPSFan: that sounds good |
| 23:44.53 | g1powermac_PB | I just tried some really nice organic white wine |
| 23:46.53 | g1powermac_PB | prpplague: so are ya gonna see some hurricane action? |
| 23:46.58 | g1powermac_PB | its insane over here |
| 23:47.15 | g1powermac_PB | its like the the hurricane is going to hit us directly |
| 23:47.38 | g1powermac_PB | people are flooding the grocery stores, gas pumps, and banks as if the world is going to end |
| 23:47.53 | g1powermac_PB | and we're hundreds of miles away |
| 23:52.02 | GPSFan | g1powermac: hey, I stocked up on beer just incase we get part of that hurricane! |
| 23:52.18 | g1powermac_PB | hehehe |
| 23:53.54 | GPSFan | g1powermac: we got snow in the mountains last night, you never know what might happen tomorrow. ;>) |
| 23:54.20 | g1powermac_PB | man, I'd love to see some real snow fall |
| 23:55.25 | GPSFan | g1powermac: it's mostly melted now, and is "around the corner from where I can see from the house, sorry no pix. |
| 23:55.25 | g1powermac_PB | the most amount of snow I've seen here for all the years was about 6" |
| 23:56.01 | g1powermac_PB | I'd love to see a foot here |