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00:03.55MonMothadamn, now I really want to go :)
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05:49.51ds2suspends hundreds of 0201 sized resistors in the air with a huge van deGraff generator
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11:15.57mnemocgot his nail!
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13:34.35RODOLFO00700hi everybody
13:35.11prpplagueRODOLFO00700: greetings
13:35.42RODOLFO00700Would somebody answer one of my questions?
13:36.24MadsyHow would we know without seeing the question first?
13:36.42MadsyNever ask to ask to ask to ask a question. It's *annoying*
13:37.05MadsyIf people know the answer or a sollution, they're likely to share it with you.
13:37.08Madsy-l
13:37.35RODOLFO00700HELLO, I HAVE A PROGRAM TO CALL ACCOUNTING DACEASY VERSION13.
13:37.58RODOLFO00700THE EVENT IS TO GIVE THE NAME OF THE COMPANY THAT I WANT TO HAVE PUT FEW CODES, which varies according to NAME.
13:38.05MadsyWithout caps..
13:38.15RODOLFO00700I HAVE A CODE OF A COMPANY.
13:38.29HcEI guess he uses a translator
13:38.41RODOLFO00700yes
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13:38.55needhelphey
13:39.11RODOLFO00700NC13N13362     COLLEGE OF PUBLIC ACCOUNTANTS (NAME OF THE COMPANY)     5C1ZWEJGCBUNAM JQ5YOK
13:39.22needhelphow r u
13:39.24RODOLFO00700My question is: IF WITH THE CODE OF ANOTHER COMPANY IS POSSIBLE TO CREATE A keygen call the ME WHAT YOU WANT AND ME E automatically generate the code?
13:39.38prpplagueRODOLFO00700: i think you will need to find a generic programming channel, this is specific for embedded development
13:39.48prpplagueneedhelp: greetings
13:40.16needhelpi need help with hotail im trying to get into a mates msn could u help me with it
13:40.47prpplaguewonders what the heck is going on
13:40.57RODOLFO00700ok
13:41.01prpplagueneedhelp: this is NOT a hacking a channel
13:41.02RODOLFO00700thanks
13:41.16needhelpdo u know wer i can find sum one to hack into hotmail
13:41.18RODOLFO00700ok
13:41.31RODOLFO00700thanks
13:41.33prpplagueneedhelp: no, and don't ask any more about it
13:41.36needhelpwhere is the hacking channle
13:41.43prpplagueneedhelp: i have no clue
13:46.11HcElol?
13:47.34prpplagueHcE: indeed, once in a blue moon we get people here thinking it is a cracking channel
13:47.39prpplagueHcE: mostly script kiddies
13:52.14g1powermac_PBprpplague: huh, thats the second one in the same amount of days
13:53.03g1powermac_PBprpplague: someone from another channel must be saying this is a cracking channel
13:53.22prpplaguegoogles to see
13:53.46MothaWorkprpplague: well, you have rooted your fair share of boxen
13:53.56MothaWorkjust not beige boxen :)
13:54.14prpplagueMothaWork: indeed
13:55.31g1powermac_PBstill wonders why people can't read the topic. . .
13:55.48g1powermac_PBits fairly obvious this isn't a cracking channel after reading the topic
14:06.56solarprpplague: told ya I knew ya better than that yesterday
14:07.23prpplaguesolar: hehe, indeed, just too many irons in the fire
14:07.37solarprpplague: no matter however. I needed to crash after I got home yesterday.
14:07.51prpplaguesolar: between doing the EE cleanup, the kernel drivers, and a demo for the boss, i've been totally snowed under
14:14.18MothaWorkprpplague: the beagleboard people numbered their expansion connector weird, btw
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14:49.58prpplaguesolar: whats the name of the gtk app for doing phone style text entry?
14:59.35solarthe softkeys? libfakekey provides the functionality as part of the matchbox suite
15:00.07solarit's kinda really ulgy also. Much worse than the windows softkeys I must admit
15:00.25solaras it takes exactly 50% of the screen reality
15:01.51prpplagueahh
15:02.04prpplaguesolar: guess i'll do it in the input driver instead
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15:15.05prpplaguei hate being rushed on writing drivers
15:15.21prpplaguehasty code generally is crappy code
15:15.51solarfor the 8050?
15:17.22prpplagueyea
15:18.00prpplaguethere was a change in the keyboard design, now i have to re-write some drivers
15:19.44prpplagueif it wasn't for that EEdiot , i'd had proper amount of time to do this
15:20.17prpplaguemnemoc: you get your package yet?
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15:23.58mnemocprpplague: yeah! I got it today :D thanks!
15:24.10prpplaguemnemoc: ahh great
15:24.54mnemocprpplague: I just managed to get into the console, and installed ubuntu's openocd
15:25.08mnemocprpplague: can one talk "ethernet" with the nail?
15:25.35prpplaguemnemoc: just a note, the ubuntu openocd is newer than the one on the cd, so you'll need to grab the .ocd and .cfg files from the wiki pages
15:25.53prpplaguemnemoc: using the usb gadget driver you can configure it for usb networking
15:26.46mnemocCD? something I can download?
15:27.05prpplaguemnemoc: oh shoot, i thought i included one
15:27.08prpplaguemnemoc: one sec
15:27.37prpplaguehttp://www.tincantools.com/prpplague/hammer-kit.iso
15:27.41mnemocI want my money back!!! no cd no gain :(
15:27.49mnemocthanks :)
15:28.11prpplaguehehe
15:28.30mnemocdownloading
15:32.22prpplagueho ho hum
15:32.27prpplagueis grumpy today
15:36.58CosmicPenguinhttp://blog.makezine.com/archive/2008/10/microchip_along_with_onse.html?CMP=OTC-0D6B48984890
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15:49.07mnemochow is the shiny "Building Embedded Linux Systems, 2nd edition" compare to the older "Embedded Linux System Design and Development" and "Embedded Linux Primer" for a non-x86 linux noob?
15:49.15mnemoccompared*
15:50.11CosmicPenguinI think you would be better served by reading a book about the architecture
15:50.28CosmicPenguinLinux itself is mostly the same - and the differences can be easier understood if you understand the underlying architecture
15:50.48CosmicPenguinI don't know what the cannotical ARM book is - is there a See Mips Run equivelent for arm?
15:53.10prpplaguethe arm system developers guide is probably the best
15:53.19CosmicPenguinThere's something for you, prpplague
15:53.21CosmicPenguinwrite a book
15:53.28solarthe BELFS book was ok for an intro. but did not cover anything I found of much use.
15:53.35prpplagueCosmicPenguin: i can't finish what i already have on my plate
15:54.03prpplaguehttp://www.amazon.com/ARM-System-Developers-Guide-Architecture/dp/1558608745
15:54.23solarsure you can. Just have to take breathers between tasks
15:54.27solarhas faith
15:56.29mnemocprpplague: does it assume the knowledge of embedded terminology?
15:56.48prpplaguemnemoc: no, its very good on explainations
15:57.26mnemoccool :)
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16:12.38prpplaguesolar: gotta have all this dog-n-pony stuff ready by COB today so the boss can get familiar with it tomorrow before the demo on monday
16:24.11prpplaguehmm
16:24.23prpplaguecan't seem to get some of the mapped keys
16:24.29prpplaguelooks to see what the problem is
16:26.34prpplaguelordy lordy, this code is sooo bad it looks like CosmicPenguin wrote it
16:26.40prpplaguejokes with CosmicPenguin
16:26.43g1powermachah
16:26.53CosmicPenguinClearly you have been examining some of my recent work
16:27.26prpplaguehehe
16:28.18prpplagueour HR page still has a photo of all the employees up which about 20 are gone
16:28.28prpplaguemaybe i should gimp it
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16:32.53MothaWorkprpplague: you clearly haven't seen my code, otherwise you'd be making fun of me up there :)
16:32.54g1powermachmm, I know this is a mechanical question, but would anyone here know of a good shock absorber for something that is less than 10lb?
16:33.12MothaWorkg1powermac: context?  like mounting something within an enclosure?
16:33.29g1powermacno, more like mounting a camera
16:34.05g1powermacthe camera will be mounted onto a moving object that will produce vibrations and such
16:36.08mnemocprpplague: download finished, thanks :)
16:36.27prpplaguemnemoc: np, sorry i forgot
16:38.02mnemocprpplague: a CD wouldn't have fit on the box ;-)
16:38.56mnemocdownloading it was much easier :)
16:44.26prpplaguehmm, i need to figure out a much easier code for this number text entry
16:45.46g1powermachttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HptwkGbxGjE&feature=related
16:45.51g1powermacwell, now thats just awesome
16:46.01prpplagueg1powermac: WS?
16:46.15g1powermacprpplague, huh?
16:46.26prpplagueg1powermac: Work Safe?
16:46.36g1powermacoh yea
16:47.13g1powermacits a video clip of a gyrostabilized camera gimbal
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16:50.29g1powermacits a little slow on the tilt axis correction
16:50.35g1powermacbut still quite nice
16:50.45g1powermacI wonder how hard it would be to build something like that
16:51.28g1powermachttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tl_oY9DTvyk&feature=related
16:53.03g1powermacdang, them aren't cheap: http://www.copterworks.com/3axis.html
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17:08.03prpplagueinteresting loadkeys seems to be broken on f9
17:10.12g1powermacthis is interesting. . .
17:10.24g1powermacI have a tripod head that basically a ball joint
17:10.44g1powermacit allows the camera full movement and you can then lock it in place
17:11.20g1powermacnow what would be interesting is somehow getting some way to move the head around to motion stabilize the camera
17:14.02g1powermachttp://www.ephotodiscounters.com/product_info.php?cPath=4&products_id=86
17:14.58prpplagueyep indeed loadkeys must be broken, it will only load the default map
17:15.16g1powermacI need to talk with RobotGuy
17:16.23mnemochttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1aBaX9GPSaQ (simpsons)
17:18.11CosmicPenguin+My cute is a mess - I have like 3 generations of x86 processors scattered around here
17:18.11g1powermachahahah
17:18.39g1powermacCosmicPenguin, I have 140 m68k's sitting on my table ;-)
17:20.17prpplaguemy wife is nagging me to get rid of all my z80 stuff
17:20.28prpplaguewonders why f9's loadkeys is broken
17:21.13g1powermacprpplague, if you ever do, lemme know
17:21.50g1powermachmm, anyone here done any robotics?
17:22.17prpplagueg1powermac: i'd love to, i just can't seem to get into the mechanical side of it
17:22.59g1powermacyea, I love playing with mechanical things, I just never got to the combination of electronics and mechanics
17:23.08g1powermacso I'm totally clueless with this problem
17:23.37g1powermacthough I think this could make a really elegant solution if I can replicate the motion i want to do
17:23.41prpplagueman i'm getting alot of russian spam
17:24.06prpplaguewasted 30 minutes on a broken loadkeys
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18:36.16ChocoboHmmm, anyone here have a sourceforge.net project?   I can't seem to ssh to my project (port 22 refused)
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18:37.11CosmicPenguinsourceforge is sooo 2002
18:41.01ChocoboCosmicPenguin, What do you recommend now?
18:41.43Chocoboberlios?
18:42.13CosmicPenguinGoogle code seems to be the new hotness
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20:31.34prpplagueho ho hum
20:31.42prpplaguetoo much to do, too little time
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20:49.31g1powermachmm, I have an idea for my gyrostabilized camera mount thing
20:50.08g1powermactake four servos each at opposing corners with wires attached to the stem of the tripod mount
20:50.24g1powermaceach servo will provide tension on the stem of the mount
20:50.51g1powermacwhen it needs to tilt, one servo will pull while the other will relax
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21:08.53prpplagueho ho hum
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21:45.52prpplagueCosmicPenguin: i changed my default theme to the openmoko stuff, but every time i start up x, i see the poky sato them before it switches over to openmoko
21:49.48CosmicPenguinokay
21:49.52CosmicPenguinI don't know what that means
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23:38.47g1powermacwell, this is really neat
23:39.07g1powermacI think I found the perfect sensor: http://www.vti.fi/en/products/inclinometers/inclinometers/
23:39.11g1powermacand it isn't even a gyro
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