| 00:36.10 | ds2 | hmm |
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| 06:33.41 | methril | yo |
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| 07:04.53 | landley | methril: yo indeed. |
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| 15:00.35 | kergoth | morning |
| 15:03.55 | solar | morn kergoth |
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| 15:25.09 | prpplague | ho ho ho, merry freakin monday |
| 15:25.46 | kergoth | heh |
| 15:27.34 | kergoth | http://www.schneier.com/blog/archives/2008/10/the_psychology_1.html |
| 15:32.05 | chouimat|work | kergoth: nice :) |
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| 17:14.30 | MothaWork | gah, why does VBUS have to be 5V? |
| 17:14.34 | MothaWork | so inconvenient |
| 17:15.25 | adye1 | MothaWork: (ducks) a PC will always have 5V :-) |
| 17:15.50 | CosmicPenguin | What did 5V ever do to you? |
| 17:16.36 | adye1 | MothaWork: and -12 to run those 1488/1489 chips :-) |
| 17:21.05 | MothaWork | adye1: indeed. Sucks for the people trying to make low power USB enabled devices where the main rail is 3.3V, though |
| 17:21.15 | MothaWork | not enough room for a buck, but a linear still burns some power |
| 17:21.59 | prpplague | MothaWork: yea, i always thought they should have a low powered USB spec |
| 17:22.30 | MothaWork | prpplague: or just take the IEEE1394 approach and use a "high" voltage for the power rail and force people to use a darned switcher |
| 17:22.50 | MothaWork | but yes, for all the attention USB tries to pay to power management, there are certain aspects of it that make it really hard |
| 17:22.58 | prpplague | MothaWork: indeed |
| 17:23.01 | MothaWork | then again, that pretty much describes USB in general |
| 17:23.49 | adye1 | MothaWork: can't blame USB because you don't have the room for a switcher :-) |
| 17:24.00 | MothaWork | adye1: I don't mean physical room, I mean voltage overhead |
| 17:24.09 | MothaWork | 4.5 -> 3.3V isn't enough for most bucks |
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| 17:52.15 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: still haven't figured out this audio problem :( |
| 17:53.59 | CosmicPenguin | audio sucks to debug |
| 17:54.16 | ds2 | prpplague: have you verified the word length config register is right? |
| 17:54.24 | prpplague | ds2: yea |
| 17:54.32 | prpplague | ds2: everything "looks" correct |
| 17:55.26 | ds2 | prpplague: what about the possibility the register has a different bit order then you though, would that result in the word length/format you are seeing? (i.e MSB to LSB instead of LSB to MSB or vice versa) |
| 17:56.02 | CosmicPenguin | endian fail |
| 17:56.22 | MothaWork | why couldn't Intel and Motorola just agree? |
| 17:56.23 | prpplague | ds2: no, oscope shows the bits per frame are all correct, i'm just getting duplicated date |
| 17:56.24 | prpplague | data |
| 17:56.34 | ds2 | oh |
| 17:56.42 | MothaWork | well, and then there's DEC... |
| 17:56.58 | ds2 | doesn't IBM have their own variantion that lives in the PPC? |
| 17:57.22 | MothaWork | IIRC, all the PPCs are big endian. DEC had some strange byte order that they used on some machines. That's the origin of "The NUXI problem" |
| 17:58.38 | chouimat|work | ppc can be both little and big endian but every system I saw where big endian |
| 17:58.45 | MothaWork | ah, ok, so it's one of those |
| 17:58.47 | MothaWork | like ARM |
| 17:58.50 | chouimat|work | yup |
| 17:58.56 | ds2 | their naming of the bits are weird |
| 17:59.23 | MothaWork | DEC had some strange byte order like 0213 on some of their systems |
| 17:59.40 | prpplague | ds2: the s3c2440 has an autoreload feature for the dma channel, looks like thats what is causing the problem |
| 17:59.56 | chouimat|work | MothaWork: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PowerPC#Endian_modes |
| 18:00.49 | ds2 | ah |
| 18:01.33 | MothaWork | chouimat|away: ok, I'll call that FUBAR |
| 18:01.48 | chouimat|work | hehe |
| 18:02.38 | prpplague | ds2: what appears to be happening is the pcm driver causes the first load, then starts up the codec, but before the next load can happy the autoload feature times out and reloads the first load again |
| 18:03.19 | ds2 | doh |
| 18:04.53 | roxfan | arm also has a BE8 mode |
| 18:05.06 | roxfan | from armv6 iirc |
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| 18:07.16 | solar | woot. First box of 3 solar panels just got here. |
| 18:09.09 | ds2 | when are you turning off PG&E? ;) |
| 18:11.21 | solar | probably never. I still like cold/hot food/hot showers |
| 18:11.53 | solar | last month they have me down to 312kWH |
| 18:12.01 | CosmicPenguin | solar doesn't help with the G part, you know.... |
| 18:12.02 | solar | s/to/for |
| 18:13.33 | solar | inverter and charge controller should arrive today also. So the only things that remain are housing it all and building a matching battery bank to store the excess |
| 18:14.08 | solar | has been working towards this plan for the >5 years. |
| 18:18.03 | ds2 | 312kWH!? wow that's more then me |
| 18:19.55 | solar | KWH.. |
| 18:20.04 | solar | dunno $30-$50 |
| 18:21.11 | MothaWork | cripes, I only use like 700-1000kWh/mo during peak A/C season |
| 18:21.38 | MothaWork | and I have an electric water heater |
| 18:21.42 | MothaWork | and electric stove |
| 18:21.48 | MothaWork | (but a gas furnace, oddly) |
| 18:21.48 | chouimat|work | MothaWork: I use more than this in winter |
| 18:22.00 | MothaWork | chouimat|away: well, it depends on how your home is heated |
| 18:22.14 | MothaWork | I've been meaning to get a quote on having a reversing valve installed so I can have a heat pump |
| 18:22.31 | CosmicPenguin | is not pleased with his heat pump |
| 18:22.40 | MothaWork | heat pumps can be done right |
| 18:22.42 | CosmicPenguin | it gets too cold here in winter to use it reliably through the winter |
| 18:22.45 | MothaWork | they can also be done terribly wrong |
| 18:22.53 | MothaWork | CosmicPenguin: what's your backup heat? just a toaster |
| 18:22.54 | MothaWork | ? |
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| 18:23.00 | CosmicPenguin | furnace |
| 18:23.06 | MothaWork | gas or electric> |
| 18:23.08 | CosmicPenguin | gas |
| 18:23.13 | MothaWork | then you're fine |
| 18:23.23 | MothaWork | heat pumps aren't usable when it's below about 30-35F |
| 18:23.25 | MothaWork | they freeze up |
| 18:23.41 | chouimat|work | MothaWork: current appartment is using gas ... and all utilities are included in my rent :) |
| 18:23.52 | MothaWork | you can play tricks doing regeneration cycles on them to thaw them out, but that just buys you a few more degrees |
| 18:24.06 | MothaWork | eventually, it just gets too cold out for a non geothermally exchanged heat pump |
| 18:24.13 | CosmicPenguin | But my heat pump is pretty unreliable even above 30 degrees |
| 18:24.18 | Chocobo | Does anyone here use eclipse as an ide for cross-compiling? |
| 18:24.19 | CosmicPenguin | anything below about 40 is not useful |
| 18:24.20 | MothaWork | now, if you have a ground loop or something, then you can do neat stuff |
| 18:24.23 | CosmicPenguin | I should have it looked at |
| 18:24.34 | MothaWork | CosmicPenguin: well, is it sized for just cooling or actual heating |
| 18:24.49 | MothaWork | if the heat pump is sized mostly for the cooling load (with the heating function being a "free bonus"), then that's not surprising |
| 18:24.51 | CosmicPenguin | its a full on heat pump - goes both ways |
| 18:25.03 | MothaWork | a heat pump is just an air conditioner run in reverse |
| 18:25.04 | CosmicPenguin | anyway - you are right about the ground loop |
| 18:25.46 | MothaWork | for most houses that have natural gas service, they size the outside unit for cooling only, and then you just get to use it as a heat pump until it can't keep up |
| 18:26.16 | MothaWork | for homes with electric service only, they tend to size the unit so that it can keep up with heat loss all the way until it is very likely to just freeze up entirely |
| 18:26.32 | MothaWork | either way, at some point, it can get cold enough that you have to switch to "auxiliary heat" |
| 18:26.50 | MothaWork | for homes with gas service, that's usually a gas furnace as it's still cheaper than resistance heating, and for homes without gas, it's a giant toaster |
| 18:32.18 | ds2 | solar: that's how much I pay... you must have much more toys crammed in there! |
| 18:33.17 | adye1 | thinks "ma, fire up the raytracing code - it's a gonna' be a cold one tonight!" |
| 18:35.54 | solar | ds2: my primary desktop was a quad core with 4G of ram and one heck of a beefy power supply. Everything else is fairly low power. |
| 18:36.50 | solar | I've backed off that one. Got a waster and dryer, dish washer etc. But I run those a few times a month. |
| 18:37.44 | chouimat|work | won't go visit solar soon ;) |
| 18:38.56 | solar | oh cept I've a habbit of leaving celling fans running 24/7. |
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| 19:15.17 | prpplague | http://medialib.leapfrog.com/didj_opensource_code/Didj-Linux-3197-20080429-1631.tar.gz |
| 19:15.32 | prpplague | looks like leapfrog finally complied |
| 19:16.10 | prpplague | wondes if sflc had anything to do with it |
| 19:37.52 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: the only thing i can come with is that the pcm driver is expect to send a different amount of data that what is being configured for on the dma channel |
| 19:38.17 | CosmicPenguin | I don't understand that |
| 19:38.57 | roxfan | prpplague: someone mentioned they included lighning-boot and apparently stamped it gpl2 |
| 19:40.11 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: lets say the pcm is expecting to transfer 2048 bytes, but only 1024 were actually sent to the dma channel |
| 19:40.37 | prpplague | roxfan: for the didj? |
| 19:40.49 | roxfan | yes |
| 19:45.43 | prpplague | roxfan: where did you hear that? |
| 19:45.54 | roxfan | yesterday |
| 19:46.44 | roxfan | <@GPSFan> for all you GPL fans it seems as though they released (or intended to release) all the lightningboot source under the GPLv2. each .c file has a "released as" comment and there is a copy of ghe GPLv2 license in the lightning-boot directory. ;>) |
| 19:47.28 | prpplague | ahh |
| 19:47.41 | prpplague | not familiar with lightingboot |
| 19:48.37 | roxfan | it's the bootloader they made themselves |
| 19:48.46 | roxfan | it's quite small |
| 19:50.36 | prpplague | ahh |
| 19:50.47 | prpplague | well lots of info in the tarball |
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| 19:57.32 | prpplague | roxfan: ahh looks to be a magic eyes processor |
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| 20:51.01 | kergoth | http://miscellanea.wellingtongrey.net/2008/10/12/warning-in-case-of-terrorist-attack-do-not-discard-brain/ |
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| 21:46.39 | CosmicPenguin | Grr - I hate distributions |
| 21:46.55 | ds2 | Linux or financial? |
| 21:47.28 | CosmicPenguin | can't it be both? |
| 21:47.34 | ds2 | heh |
| 21:47.55 | ds2 | saw a sign this weekend... "Grouse Reality" |
| 21:51.28 | CosmicPenguin | What exactly is reality for a grouse? |
| 21:51.46 | CosmicPenguin | eat bugs, die, get my butt stuffed with a delicious sage stuffing? |
| 21:51.50 | ds2 | *shrug* |
| 21:52.45 | ds2 | this is weird... this old athlon 800 seems to be chugging along faster then a pair of 850 PIII's |
| 21:53.15 | CosmicPenguin | damn straighty |
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| 22:22.23 | CosmicPenguin | http://www.evilmadscientist.com/article.php/ghosties |
| 22:22.25 | CosmicPenguin | Excellent |
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| 22:45.55 | joe_bleau | prpplague: did you notice no busybox in the tarball? |
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| 23:38.20 | solar | Almost whiskey time |