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| 00:18.26 | JohnnyL | hi |
| 00:28.48 | g1powermac | hey JohnnyL |
| 00:31.10 | JohnnyL | hey g1powermac what's going on? |
| 00:33.33 | g1powermac | puttsing with dv film stuff |
| 00:35.38 | g1powermac | been building some camera rigs |
| 00:35.48 | g1powermac | check it out: g1powermac.com |
| 00:39.04 | JohnnyL | g1powermac interesting site |
| 00:41.21 | g1powermac | yea, its my personal blog |
| 00:46.58 | JohnnyL | is reading about inform 7. |
| 00:56.08 | g1powermac | is editing up a tv commercial atm |
| 00:59.47 | ds2 | editing? |
| 01:06.03 | g1powermac | yea, I'm doing video stuff |
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| 13:46.50 | JohnnyL | hi |
| 13:47.31 | g1powermac | hey JohnnyL |
| 13:48.15 | JohnnyL | what's going on g1powermac? |
| 13:48.25 | g1powermac | nothin much |
| 13:48.43 | g1powermac | looking into adding an electric motor to a 4 wheel pedal cart I have |
| 13:49.52 | JohnnyL | oh ok |
| 13:50.40 | g1powermac | I have no clue how to do it though ;-) |
| 13:52.27 | g1powermac | I wonder how many horsepower it would take to propel the cart |
| 13:53.46 | JohnnyL | http://ca.youtube.com/watch?v=4aGDCE6Nrz0 |
| 13:54.27 | chouimat|away | g1powermac: http://www.cyriak.co.uk/lhc/lhc-webcams.html |
| 13:56.10 | g1powermac | JohnnyL, hahaha |
| 13:56.24 | g1powermac | chouimat|away, oh neat |
| 13:56.33 | g1powermac | hahah |
| 13:56.39 | chouimat|away | http://www.robandelliot.cycomics.com/archive.php?id=341 |
| 13:57.18 | g1powermac | hah |
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| 19:10.27 | zezu | how can i update buildroot for a new target (cortex-a8) ? |
| 19:37.05 | g1powermac | hmm, who here was setting up a solar panel system to power some household stuff? |
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| 19:38.53 | roxfan | solar was, methinks |
| 19:40.10 | g1powermac | well, I'm looking at getting a 200w wind turbine and was wondering what else I'll need to get to setup a power system to power some household stuff |
| 19:41.14 | g1powermac | obviously will need some 12v batteries |
| 19:41.25 | g1powermac | and an inverter |
| 19:42.11 | g1powermac | also thinking of later getting some solar panels as well |
| 19:45.09 | landley | g1powermac: many years ago I was subscribed to the http://www.mrsolar.com/ newsletter. |
| 19:46.31 | landley | The original guy seems to have retired, though. Not finding the newsletter... |
| 19:46.55 | g1powermac | ahh |
| 19:47.57 | g1powermac | http://cgi.ebay.com/200-Watt-Wind-Turbine-Windmill-Generator_W0QQitemZ180300519054QQcmdZViewItem?hash=item180300519054&_trksid=p3286.c0.m14&_trkparms=72%3A1424|66%3A2|65%3A12|39%3A1|240%3A1318 |
| 19:48.03 | g1powermac | thats the turbine I'm looking at |
| 19:56.26 | landley | It's too bad supercapacitors aren't ready for widespread deployment yet. |
| 19:56.40 | landley | Your problem is going to be energy storage, as always. |
| 19:57.03 | landley | The rest of it's a known problem, RV's that work off of batteries were solving this in the 1970's. |
| 19:57.54 | landley | So if the wind is going fairly well, that'll power one to two light bulbs? |
| 19:58.21 | g1powermac | yea, if I were to power directly |
| 19:58.43 | roxfan | is your place windy? |
| 19:58.54 | g1powermac | if I let it charge a bank of batteries during non use times, I could theoretically use more power during other times |
| 19:58.59 | g1powermac | roxfan, always |
| 19:59.03 | roxfan | nice |
| 19:59.15 | g1powermac | there's always a breeze here |
| 19:59.19 | landley | Batteries gets us back to signing over supercapacitors. |
| 19:59.30 | landley | All chemical batteries have a limited number of cycles. |
| 19:59.45 | g1powermac | yea, supercaps would be the best idea |
| 19:59.52 | g1powermac | though that isn't viable at this time |
| 19:59.53 | landley | You're not weight limited so you have some cheaper options than most of us, but your system will have a finite lifetime. |
| 20:00.25 | landley | I know people who were fiddling with lifting water into a big tank to do a gravity feed. Seems like a lot of work to me. |
| 20:00.42 | g1powermac | hmm |
| 20:00.47 | landley | They did the math and found out that in order to power their house for a day, they'd basically need to install an olympic sized swimming pool on their roof. |
| 20:00.57 | g1powermac | hah |
| 20:01.07 | roxfan | what about a flywheel? |
| 20:01.12 | landley | And then another one to collect it at ground level or in the basement. |
| 20:01.22 | landley | And then pumps. Lots of moving parts in such a system. |
| 20:01.35 | landley | On the bright side, it would scale and there's no toxic disposal problem of old components... |
| 20:01.45 | g1powermac | true |
| 20:02.06 | g1powermac | but anyway, I want to build a basic system that I can later add more too |
| 20:02.39 | g1powermac | wind is prolly the best option to start with though solar is good as well, especially during the summers out here |
| 20:02.39 | landley | See if your local grid has one of those deals where you get credit for feeding electricity _into_ it. |
| 20:02.57 | landley | The thing about wind is that the efficiency of the turbine increases exponentially with size. |
| 20:03.10 | g1powermac | the weather tends to either be sunny for months on end or cloudy for months |
| 20:03.12 | landley | So those big windmills you can see from a mile away are putting out anywhere up to 10 gigawatts. |
| 20:03.23 | landley | But the little ones like you're pointing out only power a light bulb or two. |
| 20:03.30 | g1powermac | yea |
| 20:03.41 | landley | Wind is great for big industrial power generation. Not so much for home. |
| 20:03.54 | g1powermac | but its a first step, I don't want to spend lots of money right at this point :-) |
| 20:04.10 | landley | The historical windmills from the old 1920's farming photos were generally pulling water up from a well. |
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| 20:04.43 | g1powermac | the wind turbine though is generally cheaper than even a 100w solar panel |
| 20:05.16 | g1powermac | actually its about half the price of a 100w panel |
| 20:06.19 | g1powermac | http://cgi.ebay.com/800-Watt-12-volt-Wind-Generator-windmill_W0QQitemZ170273748728QQcmdZViewItem?hash=item170273748728&_trksid=p3286.c0.m14&_trkparms=72%3A1424|66%3A2|65%3A12|39%3A1|240%3A1318 |
| 20:06.32 | g1powermac | now thats fairly nice |
| 20:07.58 | g1powermac | though I wonder if I'd get complaints from the neighbors with that size turbine ;-) |
| 20:08.25 | g1powermac | oh, three pack: http://cgi.ebay.com/3-wind-generators-windmills-2400-watts-and-regulator_W0QQitemZ170273010511QQcmdZViewItem?hash=item170273010511&_trksid=p3911.c0.m14&_trkparms=72%3A1424|66%3A2|65%3A12|39%3A1|240%3A1318 :-) |
| 20:09.37 | g1powermac | 2.4mW system would definitely power a good chunk of our electrical needs |
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| 20:20.59 | JohnnyL | hi |
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| 20:21.09 | JohnnyL | g1 you have alot of wind near you? |
| 20:21.13 | wilson | hi. I'm trying to build openssh with uclibc. Everything goes ok, but when I try to start sshd on target platform, I get error, that symbol __fxstat wasn't find in libcrypt.so. Do you know, where could be problem. I'm dealing with that several hour, but now, I started to have no more ideas... |
| 21:23.06 | sunrunner20 | *sigh* |
| 21:23.07 | sunrunner20 | well |
| 21:23.12 | sunrunner20 | there goes QT |
| 21:25.03 | sunrunner20 | http://www.businessweek.com/globalbiz/content/jan2008/gb20080128_783831.htm?chan=globalbiz_europe+index+page_top+stories |
| 21:25.18 | sunrunner20 | sorry, but the european comission shoulden't have approved it |
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| 21:31.46 | ds2 | KDE is also closely related to that |
| 22:09.49 | landley | ds2: long ago there was something called the "harmony" project to clone qt. If something started that back up (to do an LGPL version instead of a GPL version), that would be really nice. |
| 22:14.23 | sunrunner20 | lol |
| 22:14.53 | ds2 | landley: is that different from OPIE? |
| 22:29.07 | MonMotha | ds2: OPIE is an attempt to re-create QTopia, not the entirety of Qt |
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| 22:34.32 | JohnnyL | hi |
| 22:41.09 | landley | ds2: Dunno, what's opie? |
| 22:55.23 | ds2 | landley: it appeared to be a GPL replacement for QT but I donno that much about it then the free releases for the Zaurus uses it |
| 23:01.09 | landley | Cool. |
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| 23:44.18 | kergoth | ds2: opie was a fork of qtopia. |
| 23:44.37 | kergoth | that's all. launcher + apps, and a hardware access layer library and such |
| 23:44.52 | MonMotha | yeah, it still linked against bog-standard GPL Qt, right? |
| 23:58.14 | chouimat|away | 2.3.x something iir |
| 23:58.16 | chouimat|away | c |