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| 07:49.14 | methril | yo |
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| 08:14.16 | [AD]Turbo | yo |
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| 11:00.10 | [AD]Turbo | do you know a free password manager for linux usable from the command line? |
| 11:02.21 | keesj | :P I use ssh (with ssh-agent) to a private server where I keep my stuff in a ascii file. try searching on http://freshmeat.net/ |
| 11:03.47 | [AD]Turbo | yeah, i use ssh to (to login in a remote shell), but i have several password so text file is not good ;\ |
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| 14:32.11 | prpplague | ho ho ho |
| 14:32.16 | prpplague | merry freakin monday! |
| 14:32.25 | g1powermac_PB | yup, yup |
| 14:32.50 | prpplague | goes into his red bag to hand out cans of redbull and coffee |
| 14:33.13 | g1powermac_PB | any green tea in that bag? :-) |
| 14:33.28 | prpplague | looks |
| 14:33.36 | prpplague | yep |
| 14:33.44 | g1powermac_PB | ahh, nice |
| 14:33.44 | prpplague | hands g1powermac_PB some green tea |
| 14:33.49 | g1powermac_PB | thanks :-) |
| 14:34.11 | prpplague | keesj: morning |
| 14:34.25 | mnemoc | .oO( green tea in cans? uh )o |
| 14:34.37 | g1powermac_PB | today is the first day that I haven't had much pain from the CO2 gas, finally |
| 14:35.33 | prpplague | mnemoc: naw, just g1powermac_PB just gets tea bags |
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| 14:35.39 | prpplague | T0mW: !! |
| 14:35.44 | g1powermac_PB | yup, that works |
| 14:35.47 | g1powermac_PB | hey T0mW |
| 14:36.57 | prpplague | tries to get psyched up for work today |
| 14:37.10 | mnemoc | prpplague: :D |
| 14:37.40 | T0mW | prpplague: coffee usually does that for me. |
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| 14:38.13 | prpplague | T0mW: since all that @#$@#$ with the EE, i've been totally broken in spirit for this project |
| 14:38.20 | T0mW | finally! Got the last of my electronics unpacked and stowed away into the workshop! |
| 14:38.25 | methril | merry freakin monday prpplague |
| 14:38.27 | methril | :) |
| 14:38.30 | mnemoc | I have drunk 5 mugs of coffee already and still not ready for work :( and 15:40 already! :\ |
| 14:39.05 | prpplague | methril: thanks |
| 14:39.33 | T0mW | prpplague: what personal projects are you working on for F-U-N? You recall when doing all this stuff was FUN? |
| 14:39.48 | prpplague | T0mW: none at the momment |
| 14:39.56 | T0mW | prpplague: aha! |
| 14:39.59 | prpplague | T0mW: totally buried with $$ projects |
| 14:40.15 | T0mW | prpplague: time to be irresponsible. |
| 14:40.41 | T0mW | prpplague: heh |
| 14:40.43 | prpplague | T0mW: can't , we are so far behind on this project, i'm just trying to get it done asap |
| 14:41.20 | T0mW | prpplague: yeah, but you are burning out. |
| 14:44.52 | prpplague | indeed |
| 14:46.26 | T0mW | it doesn't pay to be an adult all the time. |
| 14:46.45 | prpplague | indeed |
| 14:46.59 | T0mW | wonders if the home owners assoc will let him burn his leaves |
| 14:47.39 | T0mW | I like the smell of burning leaves in the Fall. |
| 14:48.09 | T0mW | prpplague: oh, wait, you don't know what that is like! You live in Texas where they don't have any trees. |
| 14:48.23 | prpplague | T0mW: eh gads, that gives me a migrain |
| 14:50.01 | prpplague | T0mW: hehe, funny, the images of texas people have in their minds |
| 14:50.30 | prpplague | T0mW: east texas is almost completely forested |
| 14:50.54 | prpplague | T0mW: about 12% of the pine lumber used in the US comes from east texas |
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| 15:04.46 | T0mW | prpplague: my mental images of Texas are from when I was near Brownsville and Amarillo. |
| 15:06.15 | prpplague | T0mW: ahh |
| 15:06.29 | prpplague | T0mW: whole different part of the country |
| 15:08.26 | kergoth_ | morning |
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| 15:43.17 | prpplague | dijenerate: hey bud |
| 15:43.22 | prpplague | dijenerate: hows the island today? |
| 15:45.43 | dijenerate | prpplague: all's well here, just working hard as usually, new day, same old... |
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| 17:53.18 | ico2 | hi |
| 17:53.19 | ico2 | does anyone know where I can find a copy of the arm9 instruction set, including opcode numbers? |
| 17:53.24 | ico2 | I've been searching and searching, it seems hard to find |
| 18:08.58 | prpplague | ico2: imho the arm system developers guide is the best |
| 18:09.16 | ico2 | goes to search |
| 18:09.46 | prpplague | scanlime: http://linuxdevices.com/news/NS2180232237.html very interesting |
| 18:10.26 | ico2 | hmmm |
| 18:10.40 | ico2 | I don't really seek to buy a book to look up this single fact :( |
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| 18:12.29 | prpplague | ico2: best to have something as a reference on hand if you are going to do alot of arm development |
| 18:12.39 | ico2 | i'm not |
| 18:12.57 | scanlime | prpplague: yeah. I didn't hear about the acquisition until today either :) |
| 18:12.59 | ico2 | I'm just trying to find out what this instruction is that my emulator doesn't implement |
| 18:13.46 | prpplague | wonders if CP|away has retained a new job yet |
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| 18:14.50 | ds2 | morning |
| 18:15.16 | landley | ds2: morning. |
| 18:16.32 | prpplague | landley: |
| 18:19.21 | wmat | prpplague: lots of wiki edits lately |
| 18:19.22 | prpplague | looks |
| 18:19.22 | wmat | ah, I see, CELF sponsored a contest |
| 18:21.52 | prpplague | landley: whats cookin? |
| 18:26.14 | landley | prpplague: trying to deal with the fallout from Morris getting cracked, trying to get the next FWL release ready, various home things. |
| 18:26.18 | landley | The usual. nd you? |
| 18:26.24 | landley | wmat: celf sponsored a contest? |
| 18:26.58 | prpplague | landley: yea, ssdd, still trying to dig myself out of this project |
| 18:27.46 | wmat | landley: yes, at the ELC Europe conference. |
| 18:28.04 | wmat | landley: http://elinux.org/ELCE2008_Editor_Contest |
| 18:29.05 | landley | Heh, that was sneaky of Tim Bird. |
| 18:29.07 | landley | Good for him. |
| 18:29.38 | kergoth | heh, cute |
| 18:34.47 | ds2 | "I know this is a wiki, but please don't edit this page to change the rules in your favor... " |
| 18:35.54 | ico2 | hah |
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| 20:07.05 | kergoth | thinks about writing a little script to take a .bb + files from the OpenEmbedded metadata dir and emit a git repo from it for that package |
| 20:08.05 | CosmicPenguin | That would be a good idea |
| 20:08.35 | kergoth | i want to do a proof of concept of it, but i'm sure as fuck not doing it manually |
| 20:08.38 | kergoth | :P |
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| 20:44.29 | kergoth | hmm |
| 20:47.48 | kergoth | tries to figure out how to manage the OpenEmbedded metadata in a source git repo |
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| 21:18.05 | prpplague | ho ho hum |
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| 21:18.56 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: did you get the job as "senior waste disposal engineer" ? |
| 21:19.27 | CosmicPenguin | no - they needed somebody less creepy |
| 21:19.33 | prpplague | hehe |
| 21:23.38 | roxfan | ico2: http://www.arm.com/community/university/eulaarmarm.html |
| 21:23.51 | roxfan | includes up to armv6 (arm11 cores) |
| 21:24.03 | roxfan | you can also give me the hex and i'll tell you the disassembly |
| 21:26.51 | ico2 | roxfan, thanks, reading now :) |
| 21:27.48 | ico2 | the hex is E7FFDEFF |
| 21:28.08 | ico2 | I'm currently reading that doc, trying to find which bit is the opcode |
| 21:29.44 | roxfan | are you sure it's code? |
| 21:29.57 | prpplague | checks to see how many edits have been done today on the wiki |
| 21:30.18 | ico2 | i think so, or at least the emulated cpu is trying to execute that instruction and finding it undefined |
| 21:31.43 | roxfan | looks like it's either an intentionally undefined instruction or something went wrong with the execution path in your emulator |
| 21:32.06 | ico2 | yeah, I was just coming to that conclusion, from reading |
| 21:32.10 | ico2 | :( |
| 21:32.48 | ico2 | goes to see what will happen if he lets the emulator just ignore that instruction |
| 21:32.51 | ico2 | thanks |
| 21:34.07 | roxfan | "Permanently UNDEFINED. This space will not be allocated in future." |
| 21:34.22 | roxfan | is what i get from the tables :) |
| 21:35.21 | ico2 | yeah |
| 21:35.47 | roxfan | some debugger implementations use undef instructions for soft breakpoins |
| 21:35.58 | ico2 | hmmm |
| 21:36.10 | roxfan | check the undef handler |
| 21:36.21 | roxfan | maybe it checks for this instruction |
| 21:40.00 | prpplague | ho ho hum |
| 21:46.46 | kergoth | CosmicPenguin: check out http://git.debian.org/?p=pkg-vim/vim.git;a=summary . 'upstream' is the branch for upstream source imports, 'debian' for their distro files. 'deb/*' are feature branches, and 'master' is the integration branch that pulls it all together. |
| 21:48.44 | prpplague | really weird, my x apps have the touchscreen coordinates backwards |
| 21:50.19 | kergoth | odd |
| 21:53.07 | prpplague | hmm, anyone know where the touchscreen calibration data is in angstrom builds? |
| 21:54.41 | kergoth | couldn't say for sure, but probably /etc/tscal or something |
| 21:59.01 | prpplague | hmm no /etc/tscal |
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| 22:02.52 | sorphin | thwaps kergoth with a wet fish. |
| 22:07.34 | CosmicPenguin | so much anger |
| 22:07.39 | prpplague | lordy lordy, american is in for some tough times ahead |
| 22:08.15 | chouimat|work | ? |
| 22:16.43 | MonMotha | chouimat|away: perhaps you have not noticed the state of the US (and world, to an extent) economy? |
| 22:17.46 | ds2 | ahead? |
| 22:18.10 | prpplague | ds2: yea, meaning worse than before |
| 22:20.35 | ds2 | so you believe we are not down far enough the spiral? :) |
| 22:21.49 | prpplague | uh no |
| 22:22.35 | CosmicPenguin | we are at the bottom of the spiral |
| 22:22.39 | prpplague | its going to _alot_ worse before it gets better |
| 22:22.41 | CosmicPenguin | the problem is - you had no idea how far we had fallen |
| 22:25.28 | solar | prpplague: probably /etc/pointercal |
| 22:26.45 | prpplague | solar: ahh indeed |
| 22:27.34 | kergoth | hmmm |
| 22:27.41 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: yea, alot of people are optomistic that things will be better under obama |
| 22:27.41 | kergoth | 's python is rusty |
| 22:28.18 | ds2 | before or after all wealth is eliminated? |
| 22:28.44 | prpplague | ds2: i'm guess after |
| 22:31.05 | prpplague | attempts to refrain from discussing american politics/status |
| 22:31.50 | ds2 | =) |
| 22:32.05 | prpplague | hmm, anyone done apps for opie before? |
| 22:32.46 | kergoth | many many years ago |
| 22:32.49 | solar | not me. |
| 22:33.19 | solar | kergoth: are you the orig author of tslib? |
| 22:33.20 | kergoth | tries to figure out the best way to get all the sources from an OpenEmbedded SRC_URI into a git repo |
| 22:33.41 | kergoth | solar: russell king was the original author, iirc. douglas lowder at mvista was the maintainer before me |
| 22:33.59 | kergoth | has avoided making any major changes, though it could use some |
| 22:34.14 | solar | kergoth: ya I'd got about 5-6 patches I need to unload on you then |
| 22:34.43 | CosmicPenguin | hah |
| 22:34.48 | kergoth | i pulled in a number of the general purpose patches from the url you linked me, along with a number of them thrown to the list, last week |
| 22:34.50 | solar | and a new upstream bump would be most helpful. I see every distro has a few patches to they need to carry around |
| 22:34.52 | CosmicPenguin | never admit a position of power |
| 22:35.13 | kergoth | sadly, i have no ts capable device here, so i can't really test the trunk prior to doing a release |
| 22:35.27 | kergoth | need to get my dad to ship me my zauruses |
| 22:36.19 | prpplague | *coughs* |
| 22:36.30 | prpplague | kergoth: sure you don't want a M8050? hehe |
| 22:36.35 | kergoth | solar: https://svn.berlios.de/wsvn/tslib/?op=log&rev=0&sc=0&isdir=1 |
| 22:36.53 | kergoth | you still looking for someone to mess with OpenEmbedded with it? |
| 22:37.23 | prpplague | kergoth: hrw looks to be doing the OE stuff for me, and i have solar doing gentoo |
| 22:37.29 | kergoth | ah, nice |
| 22:37.29 | solar | take the 8050, it's a nice device |
| 22:38.09 | prpplague | i'd like to find someone to do some ubuntu stuff |
| 22:39.50 | solar | prpplague: Oliver Grawert is the ubuntu embedded/mobile guy. |
| 22:50.26 | kergoth | ubuntu does embedded stuff? huh |
| 22:50.28 | kergoth | googles |
| 22:52.59 | landley | kergoth: There's #ubuntu-mobile on here, but it's not really all that embedded. |
| 22:53.25 | landley | Their version of "embedded" is a fast x86 processor, a gigabyte of ram, and a very small touch screen with no keyboard. |
| 22:58.45 | CosmicPenguin | Otherwise known as a portable desktop |
| 22:58.56 | CosmicPenguin | Easy to develop for - you don't have to.. you know.. think |
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| 23:06.34 | g1powermac_PB | prpplague: I'd definitely would like to do the quickbooks thing for the 8050 |
| 23:08.56 | ds2 | quiet Monday morning |
| 23:09.03 | g1powermac_PB | hey ds2 |
| 23:09.27 | ds2 | hey g1powermac_PB |
| 23:09.50 | ds2 | took care of the CO2? |
| 23:10.47 | g1powermac_PB | just about |
| 23:11.05 | g1powermac_PB | though my digestive tract is off, which I figured would happen |
| 23:11.17 | prpplague | heads home early |
| 23:11.19 | prpplague | bbiab |
| 23:11.43 | ds2 | did they do anything? |
| 23:11.58 | g1powermac_PB | nope, just had to wait it out |
| 23:12.37 | ds2 | so diffusion and solubility of gases still happens.. chemistry is once again absolved ;) |
| 23:12.45 | g1powermac_PB | hehe |
| 23:14.05 | ds2 | Now I am curious if the process for blood, etc is the same as the process for the ocean/reefs/etc |
| 23:14.24 | g1powermac_PB | good question |
| 23:15.05 | g1powermac_PB | it must be a bit different being red blood cells carry CO2 and oxygen |
| 23:15.32 | kergoth | tries to figure out how to handle non-patch sources that aren't the main tarball, when pulling OpenEmbedded src_uri content into a git repo |
| 23:16.06 | ds2 | maybe |
| 23:16.47 | g1powermac_PB | ok, that is just nasty. . .just seen a tv commercial advertising a show about tattoos. . .of the eyeball |
| 23:17.17 | ds2 | depends on how the blood would carries it... in the ocean it is a CO2/Carboix (sp) equilibrium with something about bicarbonate formation to keep things in solution |
| 23:17.37 | ds2 | it could be in the blood, the CO2 is slowly converted to a bicarb |
| 23:19.55 | g1powermac_PB | not sure |
| 23:20.16 | g1powermac_PB | any person who has taken biochem should be able to answer that |
| 23:20.34 | g1powermac_PB | unfortunately most geeky people don't take biochem |
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| 23:49.17 | MonMotha | g1powermac: no, just the geeky people you tend to know don't take biochem |
| 23:49.28 | MonMotha | I knew a couple of absolute biology and chemistry geeks in school |
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