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| 03:44.32 | sunrunner20 | hey |
| 03:44.35 | sunrunner20 | whats that one overstock place |
| 03:44.37 | sunrunner20 | thats red |
| 03:44.44 | sunrunner20 | and iirc has a space ship over it lol |
| 03:47.34 | sunrunner20 | I need a reel of 32awg enameled wire |
| 03:47.35 | sunrunner20 | >_> |
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| 14:40.02 | prpplague | ho ho ho |
| 14:40.05 | prpplague | merry freakin monday |
| 14:41.01 | MothaWork | merry only due to shortened week |
| 14:46.05 | prpplague | hmm, anyone used a xbox 360? |
| 14:50.17 | prpplague | ho ho hum |
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| 15:06.03 | methril | merry Freaking monday prpplague |
| 15:06.03 | methril | :D |
| 15:07.16 | prpplague | thanks |
| 15:10.16 | prpplague | hmm, wonder if anyone would want android on the 8050....... |
| 15:14.34 | agaffney | everyone wants android on everything |
| 15:14.43 | agaffney | I want to see android on an iphone |
| 15:15.01 | prpplague | agaffney: yea i saw a post that someone got android running on the freerunner |
| 15:15.14 | prpplague | agaffney: which means it should run pretty easily on the 8050 |
| 15:15.46 | prpplague | i've got 99% of the kernel work done on the 8050, i just need more userland stuff |
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| 15:20.29 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: greetings |
| 15:20.38 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: what's cookin in colorado today? |
| 15:22.08 | CosmicPenguin | nada |
| 15:53.17 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: whats the word on a Jay-Oh-Bee? |
| 15:55.45 | methril | prpplague, how hard is from one European go to work in USA? Do you have any idea? |
| 15:56.59 | methril | i know, offtopic |
| 15:58.01 | prpplague | methril: not too hard for someone who has a company to sponsor them |
| 15:58.46 | methril | nice to know |
| 15:58.53 | methril | thank you |
| 15:58.58 | prpplague | methril: it is much more difficult for a US citizen to bring a foreign born spouse to the US than it is to get a work visa |
| 15:59.41 | methril | it's sad, because the spouse is more important, sometimes |
| 16:00.17 | prpplague | methril: basically you just have to prove a few things, 1) you have a job waiting 2) the company will sponsor you 3) the company will guarantee to pay for any financial items that happen 4) that you will return to your country if you lose your job |
| 16:00.55 | methril | you are not able to change from one job to another once in USA? |
| 16:01.17 | prpplague | methril: only if the new company agrees to the same terms as the old one |
| 16:01.44 | prpplague | methril: if you loose your job, you have just 30 days to find another or leave the country |
| 16:03.13 | methril | this light me up for a job hunting in a global possition :) |
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| 16:03.19 | prpplague | methril: if you stay for more than 6 months in violation of your visa, you get a 3 year ban from entering the US, over 1 year is a 10 year ban, and over 18 months life time ban |
| 16:03.48 | methril | i see you fight with this things before |
| 16:04.05 | prpplague | my wife is not a US citizen |
| 16:04.25 | prpplague | it took us 3 years 8 months and 24 days to get a visa for her to come to the US |
| 16:04.33 | methril | thank you very much for such information |
| 16:04.36 | prpplague | np |
| 16:04.43 | methril | uf!! |
| 16:05.12 | prpplague | indeed |
| 16:05.14 | methril | but finally you are together |
| 16:05.15 | methril | :) |
| 16:05.36 | prpplague | we were always together, i just had to live overseas with her |
| 16:07.27 | methril | well, one experience :) |
| 16:07.49 | methril | i'd like to live out of my country, to know other cultures and way of living |
| 16:10.29 | prpplague | methril: which country is that? |
| 16:10.34 | methril | Spain |
| 16:10.46 | methril | do you know? |
| 16:11.02 | prpplague | methril: ahh yes indeed |
| 16:11.11 | methril | you like it? |
| 16:11.37 | prpplague | methril: never been there, but read alot about it |
| 16:11.42 | methril | Everybody said that it's really nice, and lovely for living, but you didn't have a lot of Linux opportunities |
| 16:11.49 | methril | :( |
| 16:11.57 | prpplague | ahh |
| 16:12.20 | methril | i'm going to travel to Brazil in few days |
| 16:12.38 | prpplague | there are some OSS opportunities in the US , but mostly in areas like new york and san jose |
| 16:12.39 | methril | and i like to know some possibilities to work/live in America |
| 16:13.05 | prpplague | personally, i'd say look somewhere else other than the US |
| 16:13.06 | methril | you have some OSS opportunities in the rest of Europe, but not a lot in Spain |
| 16:13.12 | prpplague | you probably will be disappointed |
| 16:13.29 | methril | i don't know USA, but could be a possibility |
| 16:13.37 | methril | i need to know to said no |
| 16:14.04 | methril | but thank you for the advice |
| 16:14.16 | methril | were did you live out of USA? |
| 16:15.44 | prpplague | dallas, texas |
| 16:17.58 | methril | prpplague, thank you very much for the info, and the advices. |
| 16:18.25 | methril | i look for other countries too |
| 16:18.36 | methril | time to go home |
| 16:19.38 | prpplague | methril: later |
| 16:19.46 | methril | see u |
| 16:24.21 | CosmicPenguin | prpplague: Things are going well - in fact, its moving too fast |
| 16:24.28 | CosmicPenguin | need to slow down - take time to smell the roses |
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| 18:13.32 | kergoth | http://www.codon.org.uk/~mjg59/power/good_practices.html is a cool post |
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| 18:33.42 | MothaWork | kergoth: I especially find the comment about composited desktops not consuming more juice than "traditional" ones interesting as the default behavior for Vista is to disable Aero when on battery power |
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| 19:01.34 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: i've never seen the industrial handheld market so tied up with wince |
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| 19:08.54 | MothaWork | prpplague: everybody loves wince for some reason |
| 19:08.58 | MothaWork | I never figured it out |
| 19:09.18 | MothaWork | only explanation I can come up with is that Microsoft put something in the kool-aid, but that makes me sound like a nutcase |
| 19:09.40 | prpplague | MothaWork: yea, well it really has hit home for us |
| 19:10.05 | CosmicPenguin | At this point in time, Windows Mobile is more suitable for a handheld device is then Linux |
| 19:10.07 | prpplague | MonMotha: looks like it will soon be the end of OSS on AML devices |
| 19:10.42 | CosmicPenguin | evidenced by the fact that Google reinvented a dozen wheels for Android |
| 19:10.56 | prpplague | yep |
| 19:11.05 | MothaWork | I think Linux (as a kernel) is fine on a handheld. The situation regarding userspace, however, sucks |
| 19:11.25 | prpplague | i was totally surprised at the state of gui's for handhelds, i had the impression that they had been making alot of progress\ |
| 19:11.37 | MothaWork | prpplague: if anything, they've been suffering bitrot |
| 19:11.39 | prpplague | but from what i can tell, very little has changed in the last 6-8 years |
| 19:11.58 | prpplague | MonMotha: agreed |
| 19:13.00 | MothaWork | I'd attempt to remedy that situation, but I'm about as far from a GUI programmer as you're likely to find who is still in the field |
| 19:13.24 | prpplague | MonMotha: those might as well have been my words |
| 19:13.41 | MothaWork | prpplague: well, I think I'm one more level removed from you |
| 19:13.49 | MothaWork | you at least do drivers and low-level userspace |
| 19:13.51 | prpplague | i can do the gui stuff, but it always looks clunky |
| 19:14.03 | MothaWork | if I'm touching userspace, it's usually to write a simple app to prove out a driver |
| 19:14.15 | MothaWork | or echo stuff into /proc :) |
| 19:14.24 | MothaWork | and, of course, I'm usually in hardware land |
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| 19:16.31 | MothaWork | prpplague: I think part of the problem though is the state of affairs with some of the backend userspace |
| 19:16.47 | MothaWork | things like udev (or whatever the current replacement is), avahi, etc. |
| 19:16.55 | MothaWork | oh, and dbus...frigging dbus... |
| 19:17.45 | prpplague | not sure if i buy that, there are too many reasons to have a simple nice gui oriented for small screens, i.e. 640x480, 480x320, and 320x240 |
| 19:18.28 | prpplague | sure there are some commercial solutions, but if you are going to do that, might as well go with wince |
| 19:18.31 | MothaWork | well, those environments are certainly lacking, too. Has OPIE even been touched in the past couple years? |
| 19:18.43 | prpplague | iirc no |
| 19:18.56 | prpplague | love the way OPIE looks though |
| 19:19.08 | MothaWork | and GTK is a monster of a mess, so I can understand why nobody wants to build a handheld environment based on it |
| 19:19.33 | MothaWork | Qt however is GPL, not LGPL, which limits commercial usefulness as a toolkit |
| 19:19.37 | prpplague | i was always a fan of fltk, but they stopped making any progress on it's development |
| 19:19.49 | MothaWork | WxWidgets seems to be the new favorite |
| 19:20.07 | prpplague | oh how the wheel always turns |
| 19:20.26 | prpplague | wxwidgets were all the rage back with they first introduced the yopy |
| 19:20.59 | CosmicPenguin | wxwidgets... |
| 19:21.10 | prpplague | i really thought poky was going to take off, but since intel bought up openhand, that has seemed to have died |
| 19:21.33 | CosmicPenguin | It is sounding like poky is going to be the basis of moblin |
| 19:21.42 | prpplague | yea |
| 19:21.52 | CosmicPenguin | however useful you consider moblin to be |
| 19:22.12 | Crofton|work | good for RP |
| 19:22.28 | MothaWork | wxwidgets does at least seem to work, but it has a different goal than things like Qt |
| 19:22.50 | MothaWork | Qt seeks to be a one-stop-shop toolkit API. WxWidgets mostly just does GUI stuff (as the name might imply), though they do have some things like thread options |
| 19:22.59 | solar | qt is a bit of a resource pig.. Sure looks nice however. |
| 19:23.22 | keesj | qt is pretty decent, enlightenment is my little love |
| 19:23.38 | solar | worked much with EFL ? |
| 19:24.07 | keesj | solar: did some fun little things |
| 19:24.10 | solar | that imo looks to be the next wave of coolness in embedded-gui's |
| 19:24.18 | chouimat|work | MothaWork: but wxwidgets depend on gtk+ :( |
| 19:27.05 | MothaWork | chouimat|away: no it doesn't |
| 19:27.13 | MothaWork | there's WxGTK, but there's also WxX11 |
| 19:27.25 | MothaWork | I think it also has Qt bindings, but I could be mistaken |
| 19:28.00 | prpplague | i find that for headless devices or devices that only have a web interface, linux is doing extremely well, but when you add some sort of display that needs a decent qui, linux is loosing to wince |
| 19:28.44 | keesj | I don't think I own wince devices |
| 19:28.58 | keesj | hmm one |
| 19:29.15 | MothaWork | got a cable STB? |
| 19:29.20 | MothaWork | many of them now run WinCE |
| 19:29.35 | keesj | DreamBox |
| 19:30.31 | prpplague | keesj: you are most likely the exception, the rest of the world wants their devices to look like a windows environment that is familair |
| 19:31.29 | MothaWork | because the Windows interface is so good... |
| 19:31.42 | MothaWork | it's intuitive! (if you've used Windows for the past 10 years...) |
| 19:32.26 | CosmicPenguin | I think that is the OSS standard exuse for why WinCE is used |
| 19:32.44 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: the intuitive feel? |
| 19:33.24 | CosmicPenguin | In fact, I'm told that most vendors in the cellphone space would prefer to avoid the "UI" |
| 19:33.37 | CosmicPenguin | And thats why Windows Mobile 7 is going to be so much more configurable in that regard |
| 19:33.46 | prpplague | interesting |
| 19:35.27 | prpplague | i just wish there was a decent qui that could be quickly built for a handheld running linux. the dependencies for the current ones are just terrible |
| 19:36.03 | CosmicPenguin | I think that vendors choose CE for the better power management, the commercial support, and the fact that is much easier to find a GDI hacker then a GTK hacker |
| 19:36.53 | prpplague | funny, we've found the opposite to be true |
| 19:36.54 | MothaWork | I don't know how WinCE is, but every time I attempt to deal with win32 stuff I get absolutely lost |
| 19:37.04 | CosmicPenguin | And also because the line between "pda" and "cellphone" is getting to be much more vague |
| 19:37.16 | prpplague | MothaWork: from what i can tell, it is alot different that win32 |
| 19:37.29 | CosmicPenguin | and anybody coming "up" from the cellphone space is going to avoid linux out of instinct |
| 19:37.32 | MothaWork | it's this myriad of GUIDs inside a maze of incomprehensibly named (or very lengthy names that only partially have to do with the function) variables and functions |
| 19:38.15 | MothaWork | It took me and a friend about two days to talk to a generic HID device from userspace in Windows |
| 19:38.22 | MothaWork | took me all of 5 minutes in Linux with libusb |
| 19:38.32 | MothaWork | now, I'm sure some of that is just API familiarity, but wow |
| 19:38.59 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: indeed that sounds logical |
| 19:39.23 | MothaWork | I would like to see better PM in Linux |
| 19:39.31 | prpplague | the other big problem we have is the sorry state of WPA under linux |
| 19:39.41 | MothaWork | fortunately, it seems to be something "they" are working on. Unfortunately, it all seems PC oriented |
| 19:40.16 | ds2 | you could always write Palmï¼OS apps |
| 19:40.20 | ds2 | PalmOS |
| 19:42.37 | MothaWork | prpplague: WPA seems to work OK for me |
| 19:42.40 | CosmicPenguin | All of these are reasons why companies like Qualcomm is hiring Linux engineers as though they were going out of style |
| 19:42.42 | MothaWork | no good GUIs, though |
| 19:42.43 | CosmicPenguin | which they probably are |
| 19:43.47 | prpplague | MothaWork: wpa for linux is a mess, compared to other wpa clients for other OS's |
| 19:44.01 | prpplague | MonMotha: there is almost no support for any of the cisco extensions |
| 19:44.03 | MothaWork | prpplague: well, it seems very much either it works or it doesn't |
| 19:44.16 | MothaWork | oh, and yes, god help you if you aren't following the IEEE standard |
| 19:44.33 | MothaWork | part of the issue is just that "WPA" is a mess |
| 19:44.43 | prpplague | MonMotha: yea well there are a number of WPA options and some don't work very well at all under linux |
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| 19:50.45 | keesj | but it's true that the linux userland mess is almost complete |
| 19:52.03 | keesj | but I like getting payed to make it work :p |
| 19:52.44 | RobotGuy | Wince isn't what it is, it's what it makes you do.. :) |
| 19:56.38 | keesj | RobotGuy: what does it make you do? |
| 19:56.56 | RobotGuy | It makes me wince to think of it. |
| 19:57.23 | CosmicPenguin | if tomatoes were still in season, I would throw one |
| 19:59.18 | MothaWork | oh, there's a reason it's called wince |
| 19:59.24 | MothaWork | (pronounce like prince) |
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| 20:09.32 | prpplague | i just think the desktop environment now compared to 8 years ago has improved alot, but i don't see any of that improvement in the handheld arena |
| 20:10.09 | CosmicPenguin | Because the destkop improvement was based on beefier hardware |
| 20:10.12 | ds2 | uh... desktop improved? |
| 20:10.20 | ds2 | more like degenerated into utter garbage |
| 20:10.27 | MothaWork | yeah |
| 20:10.35 | MothaWork | there's a reason I still run desktop stuff from, well, about 8 years ago |
| 20:10.37 | ds2 | barely useable crap |
| 20:11.45 | ds2 | I donno what people were thinking of, but the trend seems to be to add as many clicks as possible to do a given task and to make sure that any keyboard short cuts are not usable with one hand or or without jumping around the keyboard |
| 20:15.07 | MothaWork | ds2: they are emulating Windows |
| 20:15.14 | MothaWork | Windows as of about 5 years ago |
| 20:18.11 | ds2 | MothaWork: they are not doing a good job of it |
| 20:18.55 | MothaWork | well, they're emulating all the bad stuff |
| 20:18.58 | MothaWork | the point and drool interface |
| 20:19.05 | ds2 | being stuck with FireFox for the time being... it is miserable (compared to Mozilla/SeaMonkey) (this is for the browser is the desktop argument folks) |
| 20:20.19 | keesj | the gmail key bindings are pretty cool btw |
| 20:21.36 | ds2 | but the close tab control following the tab thing really blows chunks |
| 20:22.09 | ds2 | now I have to move the mouse for each tab I close instead of rapid clicking |
| 20:22.51 | ds2 | then there is the marid of Extensions needed to expose basic controls (javascript restrictions, reasonable SSL behavior, etc) |
| 20:23.37 | ds2 | if this SSD was a bit bigger, I'd have put in seamonkey but right now, this is a surgical project requiring more time then available |
| 20:24.31 | keesj | What really annoys me it that I still have to use the mouse to cut&paste text between windows (I use wmii as window manager) |
| 20:24.52 | ds2 | that seems like standard X behavior |
| 20:25.07 | ds2 | highlight in one window, move pointer over to another, middle click and done. |
| 20:25.54 | MothaWork | that is standard X copy/paste |
| 20:26.11 | keesj | with the screen programm I can cut/paste a little but not between xterms |
| 20:26.25 | MothaWork | unfortunately, everybody has decided they (also?) want Windows style copy/paste, so you end up with this odd hodgepodge of both |
| 20:38.39 | chouimat|work | prpplague ping |
| 20:46.48 | prpplague^3 | chouimat|work: pong |
| 20:46.56 | prpplague^3 | chouimat|work: at home for lunch |
| 20:47.06 | prpplague^3 | chouimat|work: whats up/ |
| 20:47.07 | prpplague^3 | ? |
| 20:47.44 | chouimat|work | prpplague^3: nice ... I was trying to order the hammer kit and there might be a bug in the website |
| 20:48.03 | prpplague^3 | chouimat|work: oh? |
| 20:48.09 | prpplague^3 | chouimat|work: what kind of problem? |
| 20:48.38 | chouimat|work | no provinces for canada so it send bad info to paypal or credit card verification |
| 20:49.04 | prpplague^3 | chouimat|work: hmm, we've done lots of sales to canada, surprised no one has reported it |
| 20:49.15 | chouimat|work | doesn't work for me :( |
| 20:49.26 | chouimat|work | another website who hates me |
| 20:49.45 | prpplague^3 | hehe, i'll call the boss about it, give me a few minutes |
| 20:49.50 | chouimat|work | ok |
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| 20:52.10 | prpplague^3 | chouimat|work: you sure it requires the province? |
| 20:52.31 | chouimat|work | prpplague^3: probably not but it gave me errors in the addresses ... |
| 20:52.52 | prpplague^3 | chouimat|work: can you email the address you want to use? dave123_aml@yahoo.com |
| 20:54.02 | chouimat|work | k |
| 20:55.07 | prpplague^3 | chouimat|work: ok when did you get the error? when it was processing the credit card? |
| 20:55.13 | chouimat|work | yes |
| 20:56.10 | prpplague^3 | chouimat|work: so you put in the street address, the city, canada, and the zip code |
| 20:56.16 | chouimat|work | yup |
| 20:56.30 | prpplague^3 | chouimat|work: and what was the error that it returned? |
| 20:56.53 | chouimat|work | address doesn't match the one in record or something like that |
| 20:59.47 | prpplague^3 | chouimat|work: paypal invoice ok? |
| 21:00.20 | chouimat|work | let me recheck but it gave me an address error too |
| 21:01.02 | prpplague^3 | heads back to the office |
| 21:01.12 | chouimat|work | invalid delivery address |
| 21:20.03 | prpplague | chouimat|work: hmm, what shipping service did you choose? |
| 21:20.19 | chouimat|work | ups standard to canada |
| 21:21.00 | prpplague | chouimat|work: isn't that pretty expensive? i would have thought you'd use USPS |
| 21:21.12 | chouimat|work | the one at 14$ |
| 21:22.00 | prpplague | oh that isn't too bad |
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| 21:24.24 | prpplague | chouimat|work: hmm, seemed to take it for me |
| 21:24.38 | chouimat|work | hmmmm |
| 21:25.23 | chouimat|work | then it doesn't like me :( |
| 21:25.38 | prpplague | chouimat|work: the boss is checking on it |
| 21:25.41 | prpplague | chouimat|work: this for work? |
| 21:25.42 | chouimat|work | k |
| 21:25.57 | chouimat|work | for me and the flyswatter might be used at work |
| 21:26.17 | prpplague | chouimat|work: at what point did it give you the error about shipping address? |
| 21:26.31 | chouimat|work | paypal |
| 21:26.39 | chouimat|work | when I was on their website |
| 21:26.56 | chouimat|work | but the credit card verification wasn't working too |
| 21:27.58 | prpplague | oh, i think paypal sometimes requires you ship to the same address as the billing address |
| 21:28.23 | chouimat|work | prpplague: ok |
| 21:28.36 | chouimat|work | but it the first time it does this for me ... |
| 21:28.59 | prpplague | chouimat|work: i'll forward your contact info to the boss, and see if can work out the details |
| 21:29.08 | chouimat|work | k |
| 21:29.12 | prpplague | chouimat|work: as far as i know, we have not had any reports of problems |
| 21:29.19 | prpplague | chouimat|work: the boss do a manual sale |
| 21:29.26 | chouimat|work | ok |
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| 21:57.26 | prpplague | http://www.windowsfordevices.com/news/NS5539093404.html |
| 21:57.29 | prpplague | fairly interesting |
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| 22:49.05 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: http://www.linuxdevices.com/news/NS7430297469.html another victory for AMD *cough* oops my bad |
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| 22:56.17 | prpplague | wow cnn.com cause my system to lock up |
| 23:04.49 | chouimat|work | ok time to go back home |
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| 23:34.19 | ds2 | @#$#@#%$ firefox |
| 23:34.52 | ds2 | give it the right page and the right windowsize and it'll happily sit there constantly redrawing itself in the background |
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