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| 00:27.19 | RobotGuy | wmat: ping |
| 00:29.08 | RobotGuy | This company (Bugblat) has made an ARM board in the same form factor as the Arduino. http://bugblat.com/index.html |
| 00:29.22 | RobotGuy | solar: Ping |
| 00:36.23 | roxfan | cute |
| 00:47.15 | RobotGuy | Interesting, to be sure, but I would have designed it a little differently. |
| 00:51.11 | wmat | RobotGuy: pong |
| 00:53.35 | RobotGuy | wmat: Are you still with Code Sourcery? |
| 00:59.04 | wmat | RobotGuy: nope |
| 00:59.14 | RobotGuy | Bummer. |
| 00:59.18 | RobotGuy | I had a question |
| 00:59.18 | wmat | I left in May |
| 00:59.29 | wmat | you can still ask |
| 01:00.37 | RobotGuy | I decided I will save up and buy a Personal version of the G++, but it seems I would have to buy two different versions to do what I want to do - one for ARM7 (EABI or uCLinux) and one for ARM9 (GNU/Linux). Is that true? |
| 01:07.35 | wmat | yep, EABI targets, uClinux targets, and GNU/Linux targets are all different licenses |
| 01:10.54 | RobotGuy | That really sucks. |
| 01:11.43 | RobotGuy | Friggin queer software companies. |
| 01:12.41 | wmat | that's fairly standard |
| 01:12.57 | roxfan | just use free versions then :) |
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| 01:13.34 | roxfan | vote with your money, hehe |
| 01:17.27 | RobotGuy | I want an IDE to go with the toolchain. |
| 01:18.33 | wmat | RobotGuy: you could always buy the version you care about most, then ask nicely if they'd allow you the other version. You may at least get a discount. |
| 01:19.23 | RobotGuy | To make it worse, ARM7 has two different packages - EABI and uCLinux. |
| 01:19.49 | roxfan | how much does it cost btw? |
| 01:20.04 | RobotGuy | $499.00 USD for Personal versions. :( |
| 01:20.15 | wmat | huh, it went up |
| 01:20.15 | RobotGuy | Or maybe it's $399.00 |
| 01:20.21 | wmat | it was 399 when i was there |
| 01:20.22 | roxfan | ouch |
| 01:20.28 | RobotGuy | Probably still is then. |
| 01:20.35 | wmat | it's a fantastic product though |
| 01:20.40 | wmat | and their support is great |
| 01:21.08 | RobotGuy | I downloaded a trial of one of the personal versions yesterday, but it won't install - gets errors in JAVA. |
| 01:21.41 | RobotGuy | You only get their support for the Professional versions. You are pretty much still on your own for Personal versions. |
| 01:22.09 | wmat | that almost never happens, so I'd guess either your java isn't installed right or your installer is busted |
| 01:22.37 | wmat | you get 30 days of Pro support with the evaluation version |
| 01:23.12 | wmat | after that period of time, a Personal user usually doesn't require support anymore as their target(s) usually doesn't ever change |
| 01:23.32 | RobotGuy | I am not a "usually" case. |
| 01:23.54 | RobotGuy | Does "target" mean same CPU family/manufacturer? |
| 01:24.29 | wmat | it means same core and environment |
| 01:24.34 | wmat | so ARM EABI |
| 01:24.37 | wmat | or ARM uClinux |
| 01:24.41 | wmat | or ARM GNU/Linux |
| 01:24.55 | wmat | likewise for MIPS, Power, etc. |
| 01:25.14 | wmat | http://www.codesourcery.com/gnu_toolchains/sgpp/configurations.html#targets |
| 01:25.38 | wmat | under Datasheets, it lists the supported targets |
| 01:26.24 | wmat | RobotGuy: eval the targets 30 days at a time, that way you get sequential support periods |
| 01:27.04 | RobotGuy | I have to get them to install first. I don't know why it won't work. |
| 01:28.10 | wmat | take advantage of that 30 days of support, they will help you get going |
| 01:28.20 | wmat | also, the knowledge base may answer your question first |
| 01:34.21 | RobotGuy | I know why it didn't work - was trying to install as root and it wanted to open a GUI. |
| 01:37.38 | RobotGuy | wmat: Installing Personal EABI G++ now. |
| 01:39.17 | RobotGuy | I guess the EABI version would matter to me more, since I am starting to lean more away from embedded Linux now. |
| 01:39.59 | RobotGuy | This will be very nice if it allows me to work with my ARM7 NXP based boards. :) |
| 01:40.50 | joe_bleau | It should, I've used it with the Atmel microcontrollers. |
| 01:40.54 | RobotGuy | I have two LPC2148 boards and have my eye on http://www.sparkfun.com/commerce/product_info.php?products_id=8853 |
| 01:44.02 | RobotGuy | Is http://www.sparkfun.com/commerce/product_info.php?products_id=8923 also ARM? It supposedly can run uCLinux. |
| 01:48.30 | RobotGuy | Crap, I guess I already downloaded this one but I never installed it. Subscription expired. :( |
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| 01:49.56 | joe_bleau | MIPS. |
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| 01:54.13 | RobotGuy | OK, it all seems to be working now. I created a new account, so I guess I am a bad boy now. :) |
| 02:05.25 | RobotGuy | I hit a dead end. It won't let me move on because I can't select my board (it is not shown). |
| 02:08.20 | RobotGuy | There are no NXP processors in the list. |
| 02:09.35 | RobotGuy | Oh well. |
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| 02:53.04 | wmat | RobotGuy: select something close or a generic selection |
| 02:53.25 | wmat | RobotGuy: also, if you're feeling adventurous, you can hack in support for your board yourself |
| 02:53.46 | RobotGuy | I'm losing my sense of adventure real fast. |
| 02:53.52 | wmat | RobotGuy: I thought, however, that a board wizard was added after I left. You may want to check the documentation for that. |
| 02:54.15 | RobotGuy | I will check. My boards are made by Olimex. |
| 02:55.04 | wmat | submit a support request. it's likely they've encountered someone with that board before or can help you get it to work. |
| 02:57.14 | RobotGuy | It turns out I downloaded the Professional version. I thought I was getting the Personal version. |
| 03:24.05 | solar | RobotGuy: pong |
| 03:24.21 | RobotGuy | solar: Hi! |
| 03:24.26 | RobotGuy | How is everything? |
| 03:24.59 | solar | fine. home catching up on software |
| 03:25.32 | RobotGuy | Have you seen: http://bugblat.com/products/cor.html ?? |
| 03:26.36 | solar | yeah saw the link before. looks like a cheap deal. |
| 03:26.50 | solar | it fails to expose all the i/o pins however? |
| 03:28.01 | solar | are the i/o pins at 3.3v or 5v ? |
| 03:41.12 | RobotGuy | solar: Yes, and I would have designed the board a bit differently to expose all available I/O pins. |
| 03:41.41 | RobotGuy | I'm not sure about the voltages - haven't really looked too closely. I just thought it was interesting. |
| 03:42.44 | RobotGuy | solar: Is that the type of thing you were aiming for with the Atmega128? |
| 03:57.36 | ds2 | hmm |
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| 22:24.10 | sunrunner20 | 2. ESXi lic. from vmware is... free o.0 |
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| 22:48.16 | dijenerate | :) |
| 22:48.18 | dijenerate | lol |
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