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| 00:24.04 | joe_bleau | I tripped a 225A (480V, 3 phase) circuit breaker today. My biggest ever. |
| 00:24.43 | Crofton | congrats |
| 00:25.21 | joe_bleau | It was a bit noisy. |
| 00:33.39 | solar | could stand to enjoy a nice frothy cold beer |
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| 00:39.19 | g1powermac_PB | joe_bleau: thats one massive breaker. . . |
| 00:39.31 | g1powermac_PB | how did you trip it? |
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| 02:18.06 | joe_bleau | It was connected to a transformer, and the windings were shorted. |
| 02:18.13 | joe_bleau | I powered it up and it popped instantly. |
| 02:24.36 | g1powermac_PB | ahh, fun |
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| 14:19.39 | prpplague | http://linuxlock.blogspot.com/2008/12/linux-stop-holding-our-kids-back.html |
| 14:42.55 | wmat | wow |
| 14:43.08 | wmat | can't say I'm terribly surprised though |
| 14:44.26 | wmat | many of my neighbours are teachers and in my discussions to them about anything even hinting at the technical, such as using Firefox, they nod, smile, then change the subject |
| 14:46.55 | prpplague | wmat: indeed |
| 14:47.21 | prpplague | wmat: basically it comes from the fact that most teachers aren't required to have any type of experience in the fields they teach |
| 14:48.21 | wmat | any of the teachers I know would never be interested in Linux, regardless of whether it could save their school board money |
| 14:48.54 | prpplague | indeed |
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| 15:34.48 | chouimat|work | prpplague: http://thedailywtf.com/Articles/ifdef-WTF.aspx |
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| 20:11.14 | prpplague | g1powermac_PB: ping |
| 20:11.38 | g1powermac_PB | prpplague: pong |
| 20:11.49 | prpplague | g1powermac_PB: hey, littlechips board? |
| 20:11.50 | g1powermac_PB | prpplague: I'm \ |
| 20:11.54 | g1powermac_PB | err |
| 20:12.07 | g1powermac_PB | I'm going to have to pass that up, don't have the cash right now |
| 20:12.11 | prpplague | np |
| 20:12.17 | prpplague | know anyone that mind be? |
| 20:12.26 | g1powermac_PB | hmm |
| 20:12.48 | prpplague | g1powermac_PB: $150 plus shipping |
| 20:13.14 | g1powermac_PB | not sure if AchiestDragon from ##microcontrollers might be interested, I know he's done alot with ARM stuff in the past |
| 20:13.32 | prpplague | yea, i think i actually sold him one of the 2440 boards awhile back |
| 20:14.48 | g1powermac_PB | prpplague: of course if you'd accept a trade. . .I got a gumstix system here collecting dust ;-) |
| 20:14.57 | prpplague | hehe no thanks |
| 20:15.10 | g1powermac_PB | and that wifi skype phone |
| 20:16.08 | g1powermac_PB | (mid level gumstix board with netCF and the serial out boards) |
| 20:17.52 | g1powermac_PB | and a couple of juiceboxes ;-) |
| 20:19.48 | chouimat|work | littlechips board? |
| 20:27.07 | prpplague | http://www.littlechips.com/LN2410SBC_TFT.htm |
| 20:27.33 | prpplague | chouimat|work: basically a hammer on steriods |
| 20:27.38 | prpplague | steroids |
| 20:28.48 | ds2 | "morning" |
| 20:29.37 | prpplague | yea whatever :P |
| 20:33.51 | ds2 | prpplague: how went the demo? |
| 20:36.11 | prpplague | ds2: pretty good |
| 20:36.17 | prpplague | ds2: need to do one for monday too |
| 20:39.59 | ds2 | prpplague: good enough to save linux? |
| 20:40.20 | prpplague | ds2: you mean to save linux on AML devices? |
| 20:40.26 | ds2 | prpplague: yep |
| 20:41.24 | prpplague | ds2: no, it linux on AML devices is DOA, the only reason it is continuing to be done for the 8050 is for the sole fact that the wince for the 8050 isn't ready yet |
| 20:41.37 | ds2 | oh :( |
| 20:44.34 | kergoth | shudders at the glibc code |
| 20:46.46 | prpplague | ds2: yea, the market is changing more more towards wince devices |
| 20:47.10 | prpplague | ds2: basically the software vendors are creating thick clients for the handhelds |
| 20:47.36 | prpplague | ds2: whereas in the past they had thin clients, which meant that the vast major people didn't know or care what os was running on the device |
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| 21:31.16 | kergoth | http://www.flickr.com/photos/afroswede/22237769/ |
| 22:02.29 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: ping |
| 22:24.50 | CosmicPenguin | prpplague: pong |
| 22:25.35 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: how far are you from denver? if i'm still with AML in the spring, i'll probably be going to a week long wince seminar |
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| 22:36.28 | CosmicPenguin | where? |
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| 22:39.11 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: i'd have to look, but it is suppose to be in the denver area |
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| 22:48.28 | CosmicPenguin | its abig area |
| 22:51.06 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: ahh |
| 22:51.36 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: document just says "downtown denver" |
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| 23:03.00 | CosmicPenguin | okay - downtown |
| 23:20.19 | ds2 | Burrrr 33.6F this morning :( |
| 23:21.23 | g1powermac_PB | meh, that isn't that cold |
| 23:21.52 | g1powermac_PB | we've already have gotten over an inch of snow this season, which is wild this far south |
| 23:22.24 | ds2 | at least you can have fun in the snow before freezing...here it is just shivering |
| 23:22.37 | g1powermac_PB | meh, 1 inch is nothing |
| 23:22.47 | g1powermac_PB | I want a foot, dang it! ;-) |
| 23:23.03 | g1powermac_PB | grew up in NJ, where Nor'easters are common |
| 23:23.28 | g1powermac_PB | it wasn't unusual to get 1 foot in a single storm |
| 23:23.59 | g1powermac_PB | and we got a few 3 ft storms for the 16 years I lived there |
| 23:24.26 | g1powermac_PB | if 3 ft of snow hit KY, it would be utter disaster. . .me thinks |
| 23:24.47 | L_Deluxe | If 1/4" hits Nashville, the whole town shuts down. |
| 23:25.25 | L_Deluxe | I'm not even kidding. And that's not much further south than much of KY. |
| 23:25.25 | g1powermac_PB | L_Deluxe: thats sounds about right. . .schools shut down for a dusting here |
| 23:25.43 | g1powermac_PB | actually, schools have shut down because they thought snow was coming |
| 23:26.09 | L_Deluxe | Yup. They've shut the schools down just because it was going to be _cold_. |
| 23:26.38 | g1powermac_PB | we joked around with some of our employees who were high school students that all they need to do is spread a little fake snow around the persons house who decides the school closings and they'd have a week off ;-) |
| 23:26.40 | L_Deluxe | They never did that when I was a kid. But, then, I also grew up in the Western suburbs of Chicago. |
| 23:27.11 | L_Deluxe | I also ended up being who had to shovel the driveway. The gravel driveway. |
| 23:27.18 | g1powermac_PB | yea, in NJ you'd need at least 6"+ of snow before they shut it down |
| 23:27.40 | g1powermac_PB | and they never close until the roads are horrible, which is always fun for the parents |
| 23:27.47 | L_Deluxe | Oh yeah. |
| 23:28.00 | g1powermac_PB | so halfway through the day my parents would get a call to come pick me up |
| 23:28.13 | g1powermac_PB | and there's already a half foot on the ground |
| 23:28.42 | L_Deluxe | A couple of years ago, we had something like 1 inch. Everything closed down. But not until we were at work. It was crazy trying to get home. We apparently have no snow removal equipment here. |
| 23:28.59 | g1powermac_PB | (that is really the one time the school should at least look at a weather radar so they could close a bit sooner) |
| 23:29.01 | L_Deluxe | Back up in Chicago, that would be nothing. |
| 23:29.15 | g1powermac_PB | yup, same here |
| 23:29.37 | g1powermac_PB | three inches and everything shuts down |
| 23:30.01 | g1powermac_PB | prolly would shut down for two inches especially with some of the famous freezing rain we get here |
| 23:30.36 | L_Deluxe | <PROTECTED> |
| 23:30.52 | g1powermac_PB | its not just the stuff on the road you have to worry about |
| 23:31.07 | g1powermac_PB | right before we moved down here 5 years ago, they had a massive ice storm |
| 23:31.20 | g1powermac_PB | power was out in certain parts of the state for weeks |
| 23:31.20 | L_Deluxe | That stuff brings down trees and power lines. |
| 23:31.46 | L_Deluxe | My furnace, even though it's gas, won't work without electricity. |
| 23:32.19 | g1powermac_PB | though that was a bad year, not even a month or so later, the day before we were to move, NJ got hit with a 3ft snow storm |
| 23:32.46 | g1powermac_PB | though amazingly we were still able to move without delay, which was good |
| 23:33.07 | L_Deluxe | I don't know that I've seen many of those. 17", sure. I did live through the blizzard of '79, but that was quite awhile ago, so I don't remember the stats. |
| 23:33.13 | g1powermac_PB | because a few days later, NJ got hit with a massive rain storm and the town we lived in, flooded from the melting snow and rain |
| 23:34.02 | g1powermac_PB | yea, that was the second or third 3ft storm in 16 or so years |
| 23:34.09 | L_Deluxe | The coming years promise to show us all sorts of "interesting" weather. |
| 23:34.37 | g1powermac_PB | the previous 3ft storm was even more fun |
| 23:34.43 | L_Deluxe | Man. |
| 23:34.49 | g1powermac_PB | at that time I was living outside of NYC |
| 23:35.02 | g1powermac_PB | and almost every week we got 1 ft of snow |
| 23:35.07 | g1powermac_PB | till the big one |
| 23:35.20 | g1powermac_PB | there was so much snow, they were dumping it in the hudson river |
| 23:35.28 | L_Deluxe | At least they're ready for it. |
| 23:35.40 | g1powermac_PB | the snow packs were so high, it felt like you were driving in tunnels |
| 23:35.45 | L_Deluxe | I think I remember Chicago doing something similar with the dumping. |
| 23:35.53 | g1powermac_PB | and we didn't get any mail for weeks, couldn't dig out our mailbox |
| 23:36.05 | ds2 | black ice is fun... how else do you move a car side ways to squeeze into that tight parallel parking space ;) |
| 23:36.12 | g1powermac_PB | heheh |
| 23:36.54 | g1powermac_PB | L_Deluxe: now because of all the snow, i had to remain in school till almost July to make up the time we had off ;-) |
| 23:37.25 | g1powermac_PB | but hey, at least there was snow. . .not like around here |
| 23:37.26 | L_Deluxe | There's using it to your advantage in one particular situation, and there's trying to drive in spite of it. I learned to take advantage of fishtailing to improve control. But you have to know the surface in advance. |
| 23:37.54 | g1powermac_PB | they had to extend the school year here last year, and we got maybe at most, a total of 6" |
| 23:37.55 | L_Deluxe | I like not having to shovel. I did my time. I was in my mid 20s before I moved South. |
| 23:38.25 | g1powermac_PB | I don't mind shoveling too much |
| 23:38.35 | ds2 | shovel? salt it all! |
| 23:38.40 | g1powermac_PB | its much better than having to pick at the ice covering your car |
| 23:39.25 | g1powermac_PB | and driving on it |
| 23:39.25 | L_Deluxe | Ah, you just scrape the ice off part of the windshield with a credit card and let the wind blow the snow and ice off. |
| 23:39.34 | L_Deluxe | I've seen people do that. Yikes. |
| 23:39.36 | g1powermac_PB | heh, that assumes you can get into your car ;-) |
| 23:40.01 | g1powermac_PB | its fun trying to get a door open sealed with thick plate of ice |
| 23:40.20 | L_Deluxe | I've only once had my car freeze up such that I couldn't open the door. It did happen once. I had to crawl in through the hatchback of a '75 Civic. |
| 23:40.37 | g1powermac_PB | mmm, civics |
| 23:40.50 | g1powermac_PB | my favorite. . .got one in the driveway right now ;-) |
| 23:41.41 | L_Deluxe | Thing was awesome. Except when it rained and shorted out the retrofitted electronic ignition. Or at the end when the front end rusted out and the passenger side wheel decided it was more interested in where the drive axle wanted it to go than the tie rod end. |
| 23:41.54 | g1powermac_PB | hahah |
| 23:42.11 | g1powermac_PB | that reminds me of my mom's old hatchback civics |
| 23:42.32 | g1powermac_PB | she had one that was hit four times before it was finally totalled |
| 23:42.43 | L_Deluxe | That's pretty good. |
| 23:42.51 | g1powermac_PB | each one paid for a root canal ;-) |
| 23:43.05 | L_Deluxe | That's pretty weird. ;) |
| 23:43.21 | g1powermac_PB | (she never fixed the car, and every accident wasn't her fault either) |
| 23:43.56 | L_Deluxe | Driving well is no protection against the apparently increasing percentage of other motorists who don't. |
| 23:44.03 | g1powermac_PB | yup |
| 23:44.05 | L_Deluxe | It's always been bad. It just seems worse lately. |
| 23:44.15 | g1powermac_PB | can't stand some of the drivers here |
| 23:44.27 | g1powermac_PB | they can't seem to comprehend the use of directionals |
| 23:44.48 | g1powermac_PB | so all of sudden they seem to slow down for no apparent reason |
| 23:44.52 | g1powermac_PB | and then they turn |
| 23:44.55 | L_Deluxe | Same here. Apparently, there is some problem with people thinking they don't have to stop at red lights. |
| 23:44.59 | L_Deluxe | As well. |
| 23:45.06 | g1powermac_PB | man |
| 23:45.39 | L_Deluxe | The ramifications of that are just so mindbogglingly dire. I have no idea what sort of thought process goes into routinely running red lights. |
| 23:45.57 | L_Deluxe | The answer to that, is probably "none". |
| 23:46.15 | g1powermac_PB | that use to happen a bit in NJ, though it was never a single car that would run a red light |
| 23:46.28 | g1powermac_PB | usually it would be a stream of cars after the light turns |
| 23:46.44 | g1powermac_PB | which everyone on the road expects to happen though |
| 23:46.59 | L_Deluxe | Here, I just never know when people are going to stop and when they're not. |
| 23:47.10 | g1powermac_PB | yea, that just isn't cool |
| 23:47.51 | L_Deluxe | So I end up driving like a retiree with a hat, just to accommodate the very real chance that they're not going to stop. |
| 23:47.53 | g1powermac_PB | another thing people do out here is speed even when its nasty weather |
| 23:48.17 | g1powermac_PB | which is really bad when driving the country roads around here |
| 23:48.23 | L_Deluxe | That's not so bad here. Yeah, they drive too fast for conditions. But it's not like the highways around Chicago. |
| 23:48.30 | g1powermac_PB | headon collisions for a very real possibility |
| 23:48.53 | g1powermac_PB | speed limit on the country roads is 55mph |
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| 23:49.12 | g1powermac_PB | and they never do the speed limit |
| 23:49.17 | L_Deluxe | Which feels slow out in the middle of nowhere. Unless it's dirt and washboarded. |
| 23:49.35 | g1powermac_PB | heh, I guess, I still haven't gotten use to it |
| 23:49.56 | g1powermac_PB | these roads twist and turn alot |
| 23:50.03 | L_Deluxe | And then a stop sign pops up in the middle of the highway. I saw that in WI. |
| 23:50.22 | g1powermac_PB | and go up and down hills, so you never really see too far ahead of you |
| 23:50.33 | g1powermac_PB | hah |
| 23:50.46 | L_Deluxe | I used to drive a bunch. Not so much any more. It's just a thing one must do. So I do it as little as possible. |
| 23:51.24 | g1powermac_PB | yea, I just don't like to drive much. . .it actually took me awhile to get my drivers license |
| 23:51.36 | g1powermac_PB | I had a permit for years |
| 23:52.11 | g1powermac_PB | then again, my parents only had stick shift cars, and I still can't drive a stick shift well |
| 23:52.14 | L_Deluxe | Me too, actually. I finally had to get a license to go to college. I think I was 18. |
| 23:52.54 | g1powermac_PB | not till I got my honda do I actually feel somewhat comfortable driving |
| 23:53.26 | L_Deluxe | I'm fine with a stick. But they are lousy when your commute includes stop and go traffic where you have to go slower than idling in first. |
| 23:53.40 | g1powermac_PB | yea |
| 23:54.15 | L_Deluxe | So when I replaced my car, I got an automatic. Just try getting a small pickup with an automatic. They're all stick. |
| 23:54.17 | g1powermac_PB | that use to annoy my dad alot back in NJ, he had to do a 1.5 hour commute one way every day |
| 23:54.42 | g1powermac_PB | and a good chunk of that commute was waiting in toll booth lines |
| 23:54.49 | L_Deluxe | Anything more than 30 minutes isn't exactly reasonable for a work commute. Yet many people do exactly that. |
| 23:54.51 | ds2 | now add a steep uphill grade to that stop and go traffic... ;) |
| 23:55.08 | g1powermac_PB | slaps ds2 ;-) |
| 23:55.14 | L_Deluxe | Oy. The only thing worse than toll roads are toll roads in NJ. |
| 23:55.25 | L_Deluxe | IL is lousy with toll roadsl. |
| 23:55.27 | g1powermac_PB | L_Deluxe: amen! |
| 23:55.37 | das_plague | ho ho hum |
| 23:55.39 | ds2 | IL don't have that many toll roads |
| 23:55.42 | g1powermac_PB | curses the garden state parkway ;-) |
| 23:55.49 | das_plague | my laptop doesn't seem to want to run at 1.6ghz |
| 23:56.05 | g1powermac_PB | das_plague: I'll trade you mine for yours :-) |
| 23:56.09 | L_Deluxe | It has important ones, though. |
| 23:56.13 | ds2 | EeePC w/Atom? |
| 23:56.33 | g1powermac_PB | das_plague: you can even fry an egg on it's aluminum shell! :-) |
| 23:56.37 | L_Deluxe | I think they turned 53 into one where it hadn't been before. I haven't been up there much in awhile. |
| 23:56.42 | das_plague | dell |
| 23:56.55 | das_plague | but it keeps reseting to running at 600mhz |
| 23:56.58 | g1powermac_PB | L_Deluxe: fun |
| 23:57.24 | g1powermac_PB | L_Deluxe: supposedly they were going to remove the tolls on the GSP, but I don't think it ever happened |
| 23:57.39 | ds2 | is it overheating and thermal throttling? |
| 23:57.47 | g1powermac_PB | so stupid too, $.35 every few miles. . . |
| 23:58.06 | L_Deluxe | IL was $.40. For years. It's more now. |
| 23:58.15 | g1powermac_PB | at least for the NJ Turnpike they did the tolls on the on and off ramps only |
| 23:58.27 | ds2 | how else do you make money on short tollroads like the skyway :D |
| 23:59.33 | L_Deluxe | I'm a motorist, not an urban planner. ;) |
| 23:59.37 | g1powermac_PB | heh |
| 23:59.59 | L_Deluxe | Somehow, other states manage to have highways without doing the toll thing at all. |