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| 01:26.48 | CosmicPenguin | http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/28039226?pg=7#Tech_JerkGadgets |
| 01:26.49 | CosmicPenguin | heh |
| 01:27.12 | CosmicPenguin | yah jerks |
| 01:29.11 | joe_bleau | Hey CP, find a job yet? |
| 01:29.59 | CosmicPenguin | Maybe |
| 01:30.30 | joe_bleau | Maybe I'm congratulating you then. |
| 01:32.17 | MonMotha | anybody have any opportunities in the Indiana area (preferably Fort Wayne)? |
| 01:32.30 | MonMotha | (since we're speaking of jobs) |
| 01:36.20 | joe_bleau | I mostly agree with the jerk gadget list. Glad RPN calculators didn't make it. Too obscure, I guess. |
| 01:38.39 | ds2 | hears the sound of bottom of the barrel scraping :( |
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| 02:51.39 | landley | MonMotha the two companies I know are hiring right now are both in california. |
| 02:52.57 | MonMotha | darn |
| 02:53.04 | MonMotha | of all places, CA is the place I'm LEAST willing to move to |
| 02:53.11 | MonMotha | well, in the continental USA |
| 02:53.33 | MonMotha | I have a few leads nearby |
| 03:03.04 | ds2 | MonMotha: what's your current situation? |
| 03:03.38 | MonMotha | ds2: I was given the option today of either being laid off immediately (and being paid for unused PTO) or taking my PTO and hoping something happens in the next week or so |
| 03:03.47 | MonMotha | I get paid for my PTO either way, so I'll hope for the magic trick |
| 03:04.17 | ds2 | ah |
| 03:04.33 | joe_bleau | Yeah, not much of a decision there. |
| 03:04.38 | MonMotha | indeed |
| 03:04.46 | ds2 | what sector is that? |
| 03:04.57 | MonMotha | it delays you collecting unemployment by a week, but you keep your job and benefits |
| 03:05.13 | joe_bleau | Sucks, but it does sound like they're being honest with you. |
| 03:05.13 | MonMotha | ds2: Contract software development/engineering |
| 03:05.23 | MonMotha | joe_bleau: indeed |
| 03:05.33 | MonMotha | ds2: it's just a cashflow issue. The cash we need now isn't available for a few months |
| 03:06.01 | ds2 | MonMotha: I understand completely |
| 03:06.01 | MonMotha | it's entirely possible that if I were to wait a few months, my job would be waiting for me |
| 03:06.36 | joe_bleau | Got enough savings to easily survive a couple of months off? |
| 03:06.36 | ds2 | checked the atlantic seaboard? |
| 03:06.52 | MonMotha | joe_bleau: oh yeah, I could certainly do it, and I have some leads for potential freelance contracts in the interim |
| 03:06.52 | MonMotha | ds2: well, I'd rather not move if I don't have to |
| 03:07.02 | MonMotha | I just bought this house 6 months ago. It's not really ready to be sold yet (still needs some trim work and paint) |
| 03:07.21 | ds2 | MonMotha: couldn't you just live in a motel M-F and come back the weekends for the duration? |
| 03:07.44 | MonMotha | ds2: that is also a possiblity if we're just talking temp stuff |
| 03:08.17 | joe_bleau | Oil and gas people are still busy. |
| 03:08.44 | MonMotha | I have a lead on a local company (military contracting stuff) that I know is hiring like crazy. They may have room for a "contractor with possible full time in the future" |
| 03:10.06 | ds2 | :( |
| 03:11.02 | joe_bleau | Why frown? Sounds like a really solid lead to me. |
| 03:11.26 | ds2 | cuz everything is unziping |
| 03:14.01 | MonMotha | well, the present state of things is what happens when you build an economy on debt and greed |
| 03:14.34 | MonMotha | which is pretty much what the US economy has been built on for the past, oh 8 years...wonder what significance that has? |
| 03:15.09 | MonMotha | the greed has always been there, and the debt has been present since at least the 80s, but it got way worse following the '01 era recession |
| 03:15.45 | joe_bleau | Yep. When did a house become a piggy bank to? No money--charge it! Flip that house and move into a McMansion! |
| 03:17.03 | joe_bleau | Oh, I almost forgot about derivatives. |
| 03:17.18 | MonMotha | dy/dx = ... |
| 03:17.18 | joe_bleau | If only... |
| 03:17.32 | ds2 | just wish they drop all the bail outs and just things ALL crash now instead of drawing it out |
| 03:17.57 | MonMotha | well, the senate tried |
| 03:18.09 | MonMotha | and I don't think the treasury is likely to get the additional $350B approved if they ask right now |
| 03:18.51 | ds2 | well, you got all those foreclosure delays stuff being passed left and right |
| 03:19.00 | ds2 | that's just changing the timebomb fuse |
| 03:21.41 | joe_bleau | Well, we just have to hang on another month or so, and everything will be just wonderful. |
| 03:21.49 | MonMotha | I saw a report that said 50% of mortgages which were renegotiated fell into foreclosure anyway |
| 03:21.57 | MonMotha | I found that rather pessimistic |
| 03:22.16 | MonMotha | that also means that 50% of mortgages worked out are now in good standing. That's pretty darned substantial. |
| 03:24.04 | MonMotha | most of those are to subprime and alt-A borrowers (who often turn out to be subprime), so it seems to me that a 50% reduction in potential foreclosures in that pool is a very positive thing |
| 03:24.04 | joe_bleau | Maybe they sold? |
| 03:24.04 | MonMotha | possible, but good enough |
| 03:24.04 | MonMotha | they weren't reported as short sales |
| 03:24.04 | joe_bleau | Oh, now that's significant. |
| 03:24.04 | MonMotha | and a short sale at least gets things off the books, even if it means the bank has to take a small hit |
| 03:24.05 | MonMotha | far better than having streets of foreclosed properties |
| 03:24.49 | joe_bleau | Once again, people who did the right thing, lived frugally, get screwed. |
| 03:25.37 | joe_bleau | Sorry, I'm getting too far off topic. |
| 03:27.12 | ds2 | prudence does not pay, apparently |
| 03:27.22 | MonMotha | not when non-prudence is rewarded with a bailout check |
| 03:27.33 | MonMotha | that means that non-prudence pays |
| 03:27.55 | MonMotha | and therefore, by opportunity cost, prudence loses |
| 03:44.19 | ds2 | MonMotha: you checked some of the biomed stuff outside of Chicago? |
| 04:02.29 | MonMotha | I have no experience in biomed |
| 04:02.45 | MonMotha | and Gary isn't exactly a great place to live |
| 04:04.38 | ds2 | no, the other side of chicago |
| 04:05.01 | ds2 | I'd think the bigger companies like Baxter would have regular embedded people working for them |
| 04:09.36 | MonMotha | ah, perhaps |
| 04:09.47 | MonMotha | cost of living over there would be much higher |
| 04:14.10 | ds2 | yep |
| 04:14.31 | ds2 | but that puts you close to the realm of king daley |
| 04:17.00 | MonMotha | that, too |
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| 08:04.01 | MonMotha | any TeX/LaTeX fans around? |
| 08:53.03 | keesj | MonMotha: fans? |
| 08:53.25 | keesj | I do Use it once evert few month |
| 08:57.27 | MonMotha | know any good resume templates? |
| 09:00.57 | keesj | no |
| 09:01.56 | keesj | simplecv doesn't look to bad to me (used by lyx) |
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| 09:04.47 | MonMotha | looks alright |
| 09:05.16 | MonMotha | I guess I didn't think to check under "CV" since that term is not often used in the USA outside of academia |
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