| 00:54.08 | CosmicPenguin | -19 C |
| 00:54.11 | CosmicPenguin | yummy |
| 00:54.33 | ds2 | go ski |
| 00:54.57 | CosmicPenguin | heck no |
| 00:55.05 | ds2 | ? |
| 00:55.32 | CosmicPenguin | The trip up to the mountains is a little dicey right now |
| 00:55.40 | g1powermac_PB | wow, thats fairly cold |
| 00:55.44 | ds2 | oh that part |
| 00:55.57 | g1powermac_PB | we've been quite warm today for a change |
| 00:56.23 | ds2 | it rare is dicey in southpark... ;) |
| 00:56.24 | g1powermac_PB | 56F here |
| 00:56.53 | g1powermac_PB | I wish we'd get some sunlight, dang it. . . |
| 00:57.08 | g1powermac_PB | its been cloudy and nasty for weeks on end |
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| 04:06.39 | CosmicPenguin | -23.3C |
| 04:06.44 | CosmicPenguin | -26C at the airport |
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| 10:30.15 | keesj | sound like a good holiday project http://www.bardavid.com/mc/index.html |
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| 15:04.16 | kergoth_ | morning |
| 15:04.29 | prpplague | kergoth_: greetings |
| 15:04.34 | kergoth_ | hey |
| 15:04.37 | kergoth_ | hugs synergy |
| 15:05.04 | prpplague | kergoth: energy drink? |
| 15:05.41 | kergoth | http://synergy2.sourceforge.net/ |
| 15:05.51 | prpplague | looks |
| 15:06.21 | prpplague | oh yea, i've heard of that, but never tried it |
| 15:06.50 | kergoth | me neither, till last week. lovely for controlling the laptop and the desktop witht eh esktop's keyboard & mouse, at home and work |
| 15:07.29 | prpplague | jr. programmer i had working for me back at advantage used it on a couple of pc's |
| 15:07.37 | prpplague | (or something similar) |
| 15:08.56 | prpplague | is totally depressed today |
| 15:08.59 | kergoth | hmm, now just need to get the file sharing between these machines and life should be good |
| 15:09.02 | kergoth | doh, thats no good :( |
| 15:09.10 | kergoth | usual Monday depression, or something unusual? |
| 15:10.30 | prpplague | kergoth: just got a "card" from the boss with my xmas bonus in it, a single $100 bills, seems that's what everyone got for their xmas bonus this year |
| 15:11.14 | prpplague | s/bills/bill |
| 15:14.27 | sjhill | prpplague: at least it wasn't a subscription to the Cheese of the Month Club |
| 15:14.32 | sjhill | :P |
| 15:14.42 | sjhill | sorry, just trying to make you feel better |
| 15:14.48 | sjhill | sucks, sorry man |
| 15:14.53 | kergoth | prpplague: heh, that sucks, but could be worse |
| 15:15.06 | kergoth | at least its something |
| 15:15.19 | prpplague | sjhill: indeed |
| 15:15.45 | prpplague | kergoth: yea, just was hoping for more, it has been a bad year for me financially |
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| 15:16.17 | prpplague | kergoth: my wife's ex is jerking us around on child-support |
| 15:16.28 | kergoth | ugh |
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| 15:28.34 | prpplague | kergoth: hey, you got a minute or two for an oe question? |
| 15:29.45 | kergoth | sure, whats up |
| 15:30.50 | prpplague | kergoth: i'm doing an angstrom build using OE |
| 15:31.03 | chouimat|work | morning |
| 15:31.06 | prpplague | kergoth: the current build doesn't have any version-prefs |
| 15:31.26 | prpplague | kergoth: there is an gpe-versions inc that is used with the openmoko phone |
| 15:31.42 | prpplague | kergoth: whats the best way to add that to my specific angstrom build? |
| 15:32.07 | kergoth | include conf/distro/whateverthepathis/blah.inc |
| 15:32.11 | kergoth | add that to your local.conf |
| 15:33.03 | prpplague | kergoth: then i assume i will need to either A) remove the affected packages from the deloy dir or B) start a fresh build after removing tmp |
| 15:33.06 | prpplague | kergoth: correct? |
| 15:33.17 | kergoth | why would you have to do that? |
| 15:34.03 | kergoth | OpenEmbedded knows whether or not to run a specific task for a specific package based on stamp files. the stamp contains the package name, version, revision, among other things. therefore, any change to any of those things will result in those tasks having to be reexecuted. |
| 15:34.53 | prpplague | kergoth: hmm, ok, when i changed the version number on the kdrive build, i was told i needed to remove the ipkg's for that version |
| 15:35.05 | prpplague | kergoth: before doing the build |
| 15:35.41 | kergoth | if you're going to an older version, that could be necessary for the image creation phase, as it just runs ipkg install,a nd ipkg leans toward the latest |
| 15:36.24 | prpplague | kergoth: ahh, indeed some of the prefered versions are older |
| 15:36.29 | prpplague | kergoth: i'll start out with just setting a couple of items and test with that |
| 15:36.33 | prpplague | kergoth: thanks for the info |
| 15:36.36 | kergoth | np |
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| 15:50.23 | prpplague | ho ho hum |
| 15:51.45 | prpplague | kergoth: is it just me or do other people that do dev work get really sick of managment getting rich off the work developers do? |
| 15:52.15 | wmat | prpplague: time to start your own company ;) |
| 15:52.52 | prpplague | wmat: running your own company in the states isn't that easy anymore |
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| 15:53.25 | wmat | move to canada ;) |
| 15:53.26 | prpplague | wmat: even if i did start my own company, i'd probably hire some evil-@#$ to handle sales and such |
| 15:54.22 | prpplague | wmat: yea well, the first time they here my say "eh?" with a texas accent they'd have me thrown out of the country |
| 15:54.30 | prpplague | s/here/hear |
| 16:02.38 | g1powermac_PB | wmat: it never was easy |
| 16:03.04 | prpplague | g1powermac_PB: actually it was, just 20 years ago |
| 16:03.26 | prpplague | g1powermac_PB: the cost of doing business in the states is much higher now |
| 16:03.39 | g1powermac_PB | meh ,guess its the type of business |
| 16:04.44 | g1powermac_PB | my parents have owned and worked for small businesses since before I was born, they never has a super easy time with the stuff |
| 16:04.57 | prpplague | g1powermac_PB: yea, consulting where there is only a small amount of actual inventory, i.e. it is all code you are producing, is a problem for taxes, since most of the taxes are design around giving deductions for inventory |
| 16:05.05 | g1powermac_PB | then again, it was all retail and restaurant businesses |
| 16:06.10 | prpplague | yea, my problem is, i'd have a hard time trying to do the sales end of things |
| 16:06.50 | g1powermac_PB | heh, if you can teach my dad the product (which is by far no easy task) he can sell anything |
| 16:07.05 | prpplague | if i won some money, i'd open a business and get a bunch of people to telecomute to do embedded dev |
| 16:07.22 | prpplague | g1powermac_PB: hehe, this would be embedded consulting |
| 16:07.52 | g1powermac_PB | we have to watch him very closely when doing garage sales, if he had it his way, he'd say everything in the house. . . |
| 16:08.07 | g1powermac_PB | s/say/sell |
| 16:08.20 | g1powermac_PB | now thats a weird typo. . . |
| 16:09.58 | prpplague | g1powermac_PB: i find i do weird typo's when on irc that i wouldn't do any other time |
| 16:10.09 | g1powermac_PB | yea |
| 16:10.37 | prpplague | lordy i have a ton of work to do today |
| 16:10.55 | g1powermac_PB | I tend to skip words and write words that isn't close to what I wanted to write |
| 16:13.11 | wmat | prpplague: want to start that type of biz now? |
| 16:13.34 | prpplague | wmat: can't afford to now |
| 16:13.54 | wmat | prpplague: can you afford to seed it with your spare time? |
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| 16:15.12 | chouimat|work | http://www.gamepro.com/error/404/ |
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| 16:27.20 | joe_bleau | prpplague: what would it take to start up this company idea of yours? |
| 16:28.14 | prpplague | joe_bleau: had not thought it completely out |
| 16:28.55 | joe_bleau | Seems like it wouldn't take much. |
| 16:30.39 | prpplague | rough guess i'd say about $25k - $30k to get started |
| 16:35.49 | joe_bleau | Got potential customers in mind? |
| 16:36.46 | prpplague | a couple, but nothing solid, this is mainly a pipedream, i've not follow it much |
| 16:37.20 | CosmicPenguin | Morning |
| 16:37.31 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: greetings |
| 16:38.46 | CosmicPenguin | Got down to -27.7C last night |
| 16:38.51 | chouimat|work | CosmicPenguin: nice |
| 16:38.56 | CosmicPenguin | And to further emphasis that this December has been whacked out.. |
| 16:39.13 | chouimat|work | CosmicPenguin: it's around 10C here |
| 16:39.14 | CosmicPenguin | The december high was 21C |
| 16:39.29 | CosmicPenguin | The december low was -27.7C |
| 16:39.34 | CosmicPenguin | Now, thats messed u |
| 16:39.36 | CosmicPenguin | p |
| 16:39.51 | chouimat|work | sound like december and january enough for me |
| 16:40.32 | CosmicPenguin | I would prefer to have it 0 the whole time |
| 16:52.10 | joe_bleau | Ganssle is writing (once more!) about code reviews. Do y'all do 'em? |
| 17:08.01 | CosmicPenguin | yeah, its called - the lkml |
| 17:08.11 | CosmicPenguin | most effective code review evah - thousands of anal retentive geeks |
| 17:19.24 | joe_bleau | Do anything besides linux kernel programming? |
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| 17:22.59 | CosmicPenguin | all of my code reviews are ultimately public |
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| 17:36.12 | prpplague | ho ho hum |
| 17:36.19 | prpplague | is totally bummed out |
| 17:37.01 | CosmicPenguin | how come? |
| 17:37.58 | prpplague | <prpplague> kergoth: just got a "card" from the boss with my xmas bonus in it, a single $100 bill, seems that's what everyone got for their xmas bonus this year |
| 17:39.03 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: they used to give it out based on your salary, but it seems they didn't do that this year |
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| 17:39.46 | CosmicPenguin | whats a bonus? |
| 17:40.41 | g1powermac | woohoo, finally was able to weld two pieces of 1/8" angle iron together and not blow a circuit |
| 17:41.17 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: exactly |
| 17:41.30 | CosmicPenguin | prpplague: that does suck - shades of Christmas Vacation |
| 17:41.44 | CosmicPenguin | you don't have any crazy cousins with blue leisure suits, do you? |
| 17:42.02 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: and the worst part is i know for a fact that my boss got something different |
| 17:42.07 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: hehe indeed i do |
| 17:42.22 | joe_bleau | White leather shoes and belt? |
| 17:43.19 | kergoth | hehe, christmas vacation is a classic |
| 17:43.36 | kergoth | tries to remember if any job he's ever had did christmas bonuses |
| 17:43.46 | CosmicPenguin | If the cold hard corporate world has taught me anything, its that there is no such things as bonuses |
| 17:44.03 | CosmicPenguin | just randomly distributed chunks of cash at strange times |
| 17:44.09 | CosmicPenguin | and more recently, more and more useless stock |
| 17:44.21 | prpplague | kergoth: advantage was a terrible place to work for during the year, but they always gave gigantic xmas bonus |
| 17:44.42 | kergoth | CosmicPenguin: heh |
| 17:45.00 | kergoth | i have some lovely mv stock options, when we arent all that likely to ipo anytime soon, afaik |
| 17:51.11 | joe_bleau | prpplague: it could be worse--some companies add the bonus to a paycheck and take out taxes. |
| 17:51.42 | prpplague | joe_bleau: indeed |
| 17:53.15 | CosmicPenguin | joe_bleau: doesn't matter though - you are obligated to report it either way |
| 17:53.23 | CosmicPenguin | might as well have the red tape done for you |
| 17:54.07 | CosmicPenguin | http://gizmodo.com/5109585/nanobrewmaster-home-brew-station-will-be-the-end-of-me |
| 17:54.09 | CosmicPenguin | lovely |
| 17:54.16 | CosmicPenguin | if anybody hasn't gotten me a christmas present yet |
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| 18:10.26 | wmat | that looks awesome! |
| 18:12.22 | agaffney | CosmicPenguin: heh, have you been a good boy? |
| 18:15.03 | joe_bleau | I didn't see a price. |
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| 19:47.46 | CosmicPenguin | wow, for being 4 F outside, it is toasty in this house |
| 19:47.49 | CosmicPenguin | I've got a sweat going |
| 19:49.10 | kergoth | is cold in his office at work.. even with a long sleeve shirt on, shouldve brought his coat or something |
| 19:53.19 | prpplague | is wearing shortsleeved short |
| 19:53.20 | prpplague | shirt |
| 19:53.25 | prpplague | doh |
| 19:53.47 | prpplague | iirc its about 40F outside today |
| 19:54.20 | agaffney | it's 13F here |
| 19:54.28 | agaffney | and I'm wearing short sleeves :P |
| 19:54.34 | agaffney | but I very rarely wear long sleeves |
| 19:58.02 | CosmicPenguin | heh - 40F |
| 19:58.19 | CosmicPenguin | I have a friend that lives in Austin - he said there was a considerable amount of panic at the snow they got last week |
| 19:58.39 | CosmicPenguin | Of course, I guess we would panic in Colorado if a hurricane was coming |
| 19:58.48 | CosmicPenguin | of course, if a hurricane hits colorado, then we're all in the soup |
| 19:59.02 | agaffney | I heard about what happened last year when it snowed less than an inch in Arizona....hours and hours of non-moving highways |
| 19:59.24 | agaffney | of course, even people in areas that get a lot of snow tend to panic |
| 19:59.34 | agaffney | you'd think they'd know better after a while |
| 19:59.35 | CosmicPenguin | s/people/stupid people/ |
| 19:59.47 | CosmicPenguin | otherwise known in these parts as "California transplants" |
| 19:59.55 | agaffney | heh |
| 20:00.11 | agaffney | your regex is valid |
| 20:00.19 | agaffney | it's not hard to drive in snow |
| 20:00.31 | agaffney | if you're not retarded |
| 20:00.47 | CosmicPenguin | These are the same people who have a solid block of ice in their driveway between December and March because they don't like to shovel snow |
| 20:01.00 | agaffney | I hate those people that drive 10MPH on the highway when you can safely do at least 40MPH |
| 20:01.13 | agaffney | in the left lane, no less |
| 20:01.41 | CosmicPenguin | In the mountains, we get that in the summer too |
| 20:01.47 | agaffney | heh |
| 20:01.52 | CosmicPenguin | That there clark, is an Rrrveee |
| 20:02.30 | joe_bleau | I love when they chase the squirrel. |
| 20:02.33 | CosmicPenguin | I could do Christmas vacation quotes all day |
| 20:02.36 | agaffney | heh |
| 20:02.39 | agaffney | please don't ;) |
| 20:03.30 | CosmicPenguin | I only have a few mandatory movies during the year, Christmas Vacation right now |
| 20:03.34 | CosmicPenguin | Groundhog Day |
| 20:03.43 | CosmicPenguin | And I usually try to sneak in Major League before baseball starts |
| 20:03.46 | agaffney | it's been too long since I've seen Groundhog Day |
| 20:03.53 | chouimat|work | has no problem with snow |
| 20:04.00 | agaffney | chouimat|work: me neither |
| 20:04.02 | agaffney | I love the snow |
| 20:04.15 | agaffney | I was disappointed that we didn't get enough at one time last year here in St. Louis to make a snow man |
| 20:04.17 | chouimat|work | agaffney: I'm in canada so ... I'm used to it :) |
| 20:04.20 | agaffney | heh |
| 20:05.34 | chouimat|work | agaffney:last year we got over 400cm of snow in Ottawa, Quebec City got 500cm and a place east of it got 837cm |
| 20:06.18 | agaffney | I should have moved to Canada back when I said I would in 2004 (guess why...) |
| 20:06.29 | chouimat|work | :) |
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