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| 08:55.51 | damunix | morning all |
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| 14:52.36 | damunix | hi prpplague |
| 14:54.37 | prpplague | damunix: greetings |
| 14:55.14 | damunix | how are you ? |
| 14:56.06 | prpplague | i am well |
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| 15:04.10 | damunix | prpplague: the question :) do you had time to test .28 kernel :) ? |
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| 15:13.20 | prpplague | damunix: sorry no, i have a deadline for friday at 5pm to finish some handheld designs, so i'm very very busy this week, however, the following week i've been allocated time to bring 2.6.28 up on the hammer |
| 15:15.12 | kergoth | morning |
| 15:15.25 | prpplague | kergoth: greetings |
| 15:15.41 | kergoth | damn its cold in the office today... i think i'm gonna keep my jacket on |
| 15:15.43 | kergoth | yawns |
| 15:16.20 | prpplague | kergoth: hehe |
| 15:19.30 | kergoth | prpplague: how's it goign? |
| 15:21.01 | prpplague | kergoth: not too bad |
| 15:21.19 | prpplague | kergoth: trying to get everything ready for introduction of the M8050 at a trade show next week |
| 15:24.47 | prpplague | damunix: please update your user page with atleast some contact info - http://www.elinux.org/index.php?title=User:Damien_Rannou&action=edit |
| 15:28.47 | kergoth | ahh |
| 15:29.09 | prpplague | kergoth: and you? MV treating you well? |
| 15:29.54 | kergoth | not too bad. job itself is somewhat boring usually, but i'm assisting engineering on occasion |
| 15:30.01 | kergoth | plan on going back to college shortly, at least part time |
| 15:31.28 | prpplague | kergoth: ahh dandy |
| 15:31.42 | prpplague | kergoth: i've been delving into the wince build |
| 15:32.24 | kergoth | fun fun |
| 15:34.31 | chouimat|work | morning |
| 15:44.47 | damunix | k |
| 15:45.49 | prpplague | kergoth: their driver structures are very similiar to linux, but their IDE makes things very hard for me to do builds |
| 15:50.24 | chouimat|work | prpplague: commandline junky ;) |
| 15:50.45 | prpplague | chouimat|work: indeed, the platform builder has a command line, but it is not documented |
| 15:51.06 | damunix | prpplague: is that ok ? |
| 15:51.48 | prpplague | damunix: dandy |
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| 15:52.14 | prpplague | hehe the debate over .pl in the kernel build rages on |
| 16:00.18 | chouimat|work | cool |
| 16:00.41 | solar | not really. It's should be a no brainer |
| 16:01.00 | solar | morn * hope you all had nice holidays |
| 16:01.05 | prpplague | solar: pro or con? |
| 16:01.36 | solar | cool as it should be a no brainer to not add new big deps for no valid reason |
| 16:02.33 | prpplague | solar: yea, the .pl is a miserable issue, i normally patch it out |
| 16:03.25 | agaffney | I've been watching that debate with interest |
| 16:03.32 | agaffney | if anything just to see how "stupid" other people are |
| 16:03.54 | solar | got tired of reading lethal's statements |
| 16:05.08 | chouimat|work | what is all this thing about? |
| 16:07.40 | solar | perl being a dep to build the kernel now. |
| 16:09.41 | solar | chouimat|away: http://www.gossamer-threads.com/lists/linux/kernel/1014001 |
| 16:10.06 | chouimat|work | would rather have python instead ... |
| 16:10.17 | adyer | chouimat|work: looks like some of the thread starts here: http://lkml.indiana.edu/hypermail/linux/kernel/0901.0/00148.html |
| 16:11.13 | chouimat|work | ok I will read this later ... need get 3 new devices ready for the end of the day since they are going to CES |
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| 16:40.57 | prpplague | wonders if cosmic will get to irc from work |
| 16:52.46 | prpplague | kergoth: ping |
| 16:55.35 | kergoth | prpplague: pong |
| 16:55.42 | kergoth | wheres cp working now? |
| 16:55.58 | prpplague | kergoth: not sure he has made that public yet |
| 16:56.26 | prpplague | kergoth: commit access for oe package data? what are the requirements for me to get that? |
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| 17:01.21 | kergoth | actually, i'm not sure what they are nowadays. you'd probably want to make public an OpenEmbedded metadata repo with a branch containing the changes you want pulled, and request a review & pull of that branch, as a start.. and after people see you're clueful, you'll probably get offered access |
| 17:01.36 | kergoth | but i'm still not 100% back into the flow of things, so you may want to ask mickey or someone |
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| 17:02.21 | prpplague | kergoth: okie dokie |
| 17:02.51 | prpplague | kergoth: just doing alot of work on angstrom, trying to get it stable for my platform |
| 17:03.04 | kergoth | ah |
| 17:06.34 | chouimat|work | try to understand why it work with sysvinit 2.85 but not with 2.86 |
| 17:08.07 | prpplague | jokes chouimat|work |
| 17:08.15 | prpplague | chouimat|work: did you consider the D.A. factor? |
| 17:08.44 | chouimat|work | ? |
| 17:09.46 | prpplague | chouimat|work: Dumb Ass , hehe |
| 17:09.56 | prpplague | jokes chouimat|work |
| 17:10.19 | prpplague | chouimat|work: just being silly |
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| 17:12.04 | adyer | PEBKAC - problem exists between keyboard and chair :-) |
| 17:12.37 | prpplague | error # ID-10-T |
| 17:25.14 | chouimat|work | adyer: prpplague nope it's something really weird and it's now on the back burner for a while ... |
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| 18:02.01 | Mirell | *yawn* |
| 18:02.07 | Mirell | Nothing like getting up at the crack of noon |
| 18:02.36 | agaffney | Mirell: I hate you :P |
| 18:04.44 | g1powermac_PB | can't stay asleep past 7am on a good day. . . |
| 18:04.55 | g1powermac_PB | and I have no idea why |
| 18:05.15 | agaffney | get heavier curtains |
| 18:05.49 | g1powermac_PB | I already have sun blocking curtains, plus the sun doesn't rise till almost 8am around here |
| 18:06.13 | g1powermac_PB | (I'm right on the western most edge of EST) |
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| 18:41.20 | prpplague | samrobb: greetings |
| 18:41.32 | samrobb | 'allo |
| 18:43.09 | prpplague | samrobb: what's cookin? |
| 18:43.52 | samrobb | Not much... still recovering from the holidays |
| 18:43.55 | samrobb | Yourself? |
| 18:44.29 | prpplague | samrobb: friday deadline for the M8050 to be ready for a trade show |
| 18:45.09 | samrobb | Ouch! Good luck. |
| 18:47.08 | prpplague | samrobb: i'm sitting pretty good, just going to be busy week |
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| 18:50.22 | prpplague | AndrewR: greetings |
| 18:50.35 | AndrewR | prpplague, hello |
| 18:50.46 | prpplague | AndrewR: what brings you to #edev |
| 18:51.05 | AndrewR | prpplague, buildroot bugs :) |
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| 18:51.20 | prpplague | AndrewR: ahh |
| 18:52.34 | AndrewR | prpplague, i have old computer with DeliLinux-0.7.2 (uclibc-based). I want to upgrade mplayer to latest svn ... but my old buildroot was not very good (no c++ compiler). so i tried new version .. and succesed more or less. |
| 18:54.26 | prpplague | ahh |
| 18:55.32 | AndrewR | as far as i can see bouldroot team lost their bug database some time ag o.. not sure should i report "make source-check" failuries and like this to new bugzilla or wait a bit ... |
| 18:55.43 | AndrewR | *buildroot team |
| 18:57.13 | chouimat|work | solar: agaffney really nice religious flamewar ... I really start to like *BSD config(8) :) |
| 18:57.31 | agaffney | heh |
| 18:57.47 | agaffney | this is just a "stupid" flamewar |
| 18:57.56 | agaffney | Rob is correct and everyone else is wrong :P |
| 18:58.05 | agaffney | if you can use sh instead of perl, why wouldn't you? |
| 18:58.12 | agaffney | for stuff required to build the kernel |
| 18:58.16 | chouimat|work | agaffney: because perl is more PC? |
| 18:58.28 | chouimat|work | as in politically correct |
| 18:58.34 | agaffney | I wasn't aware languages could be PC |
| 18:58.40 | prpplague | AndrewR: buildroot has basically lost any semblence of being maintained |
| 18:58.48 | chouimat|work | agaffney: everything is politic this days |
| 18:58.51 | prpplague | AndrewR: pretty much everyone and anyone is checking in stuff |
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| 18:58.52 | chouimat|work | s/this/these |
| 19:00.12 | chouimat|work | agaffney: we just removed the last perl part of our product before xmas ... and now it;s seems to be faster |
| 19:00.31 | prpplague | anyone used the uinput device node before? |
| 19:00.36 | agaffney | perl has its place |
| 19:00.46 | agaffney | just not as many as some people seem to think |
| 19:00.55 | agaffney | I do love perl, but I'm well aware of its shortcomings |
| 19:06.32 | chouimat|work | agaffney: I hgate perl and I will have to hack^wbugfix the old code soon enough :( |
| 19:07.45 | agaffney | heh |
| 19:07.50 | agaffney | perl was my first love |
| 19:08.10 | gustavoz | now figure love with a camel |
| 19:08.17 | gustavoz | and run hehe |
| 19:08.18 | agaffney | it was the 5th or 6th language I learned but the first one I really got into |
| 19:08.20 | chouimat|work | agaffney: mine was my ex-wife ... but this is something completely different |
| 19:08.23 | agaffney | heh |
| 19:08.26 | agaffney | kicks gustavoz |
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| 19:11.01 | prpplague | tries to decide if he wants to use uinput |
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| 19:56.15 | keesj | hi prpplague |
| 19:57.41 | keesj | i used uinput when playing with maemo and a wii remote (wiimote) |
| 19:58.32 | archae0pteryx | How did that work out? |
| 19:58.41 | keesj | the alternative to uinput is using X and the test extention |
| 19:59.37 | keesj | worked pretty well, it does create a dependency to a kernel module so it was harder to "sell" the software becasue of the dependency, |
| 20:00.22 | archae0pteryx | I assume you were mostly using it for the buttons? |
| 20:02.44 | keesj | indeed, |
| 20:03.48 | keesj | I also used it for Bluetooth keyboard that did not support HID. |
| 20:05.12 | archae0pteryx | Might have to try that, sounds convenient for media players |
| 20:06.19 | keesj | http://www.wiili.org/index.php/Wiimote this one I found pretty usable(written in c) and it does mouse stuff but I did not use the mouse |
| 20:07.42 | keesj | this summer there was a google summer of code student(brasilian) creating a wii remote based media control system, |
| 20:08.26 | prpplague | keesj: ahh yea |
| 20:08.50 | prpplague | keesj: this is for some input methods like some external barcode scanning and ir stuff |
| 20:12.19 | keesj | usb based? |
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| 20:46.43 | prpplague | keesj: several different interfaces |
| 20:46.57 | prpplague | keesj: i2c, gpio clocked, spi, uart |
| 21:06.23 | g1powermac_PB | hey prpplague |
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| 21:25.24 | prpplague | g1powermac_PB: greetings |
| 21:25.32 | g1powermac_PB | hows it going? |
| 21:26.12 | prpplague | like an amtrak train on an old rail road |
| 21:26.22 | g1powermac_PB | ahh, fun |
| 21:30.30 | chouimat|work | prpplague: sore lowerback? |
| 21:32.28 | prpplague | chouimat|work: http://www.wsws.org/articles/2001/mar2001/rail-m20.shtml |
| 21:32.39 | prpplague | chouimat|work: amtrak accidents are somewhat of a joke here |
| 21:32.46 | prpplague | chouimat|work: virtually no one uses it |
| 21:33.13 | g1powermac_PB | heh, fun |
| 21:33.16 | chouimat|work | prpplague: I used viarail for xmas ... way better imho than the greyhound busses |
| 21:33.38 | g1powermac_PB | hopes there is never a train accident here. . . |
| 21:33.50 | g1powermac_PB | we live not very far from a major freight train line |
| 21:34.17 | g1powermac_PB | it would be nasty if there was a train accident involving a freight train carrying nasty chemicals |
| 21:34.42 | chouimat|work | prpplague: 5 hours in a train or in a bus I will take the train ... at least I get a meal in first class :) |
| 21:35.12 | prpplague | trains are virtually unused here for long travel |
| 21:35.37 | g1powermac_PB | I wish we'd use our many train lines here for some short mass transit |
| 21:35.47 | g1powermac_PB | we have so many train lines in this state |
| 21:37.35 | adyer | g1powermac_PB: freight lines own (almost) all the track, and so get priority. makes it hard for Amtrak. |
| 21:37.57 | g1powermac_PB | yea |
| 21:38.07 | g1powermac_PB | its all norfolk southern out here |
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| 21:45.47 | prpplague | anyone got some good code examples for i2c on avr? |
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