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| 00:14.50 | CosmicPenguin | Seeing as there has only been 1, you havea great shot at being at 50% of them.. :) |
| 00:14.57 | kergoth | hehe |
| 00:15.21 | kergoth | well, i'm still somewhat rusty with things, so dunno if work would send me, and i'd hate to spend the money myself, trying to save an emergency fund |
| 00:15.24 | kergoth | will see |
| 00:22.44 | CosmicPenguin | x11perf -all takes for _ever) |
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| 01:36.53 | joe_bleau | Anyone experienced with doing splash screens in grub and/or linux? |
| 01:42.38 | das_plague | joe_bleau: in the linux kernel is pretty easy |
| 01:42.46 | das_plague | joe_bleau: most FB's already support it |
| 01:45.14 | joe_bleau | This is my ALIX project, vesafb. |
| 01:45.36 | joe_bleau | What'd I'd love, in an ideal world, is to have our logo appear at boot and stay there until my app starts. |
| 01:45.49 | das_plague | joe_bleau: vesafb should support it fine, pretty easy to do |
| 01:46.09 | joe_bleau | Got a search term that I can plug into google? |
| 01:46.12 | das_plague | joe_bleau: the linux kernel doesn't have the "tux" logo to rebuild by default |
| 01:46.29 | das_plague | joe_bleau: not really, it is one of those things you have to dig |
| 01:46.48 | joe_bleau | If i let it boot with a non-serial console, I get the startup messages. |
| 01:47.12 | das_plague | joe_bleau: yea, there are a couple options you can do for that |
| 01:47.15 | joe_bleau | If I tell the kernel to use a serial line for console, it's fairly quiet. (GRUB still puts cruft on screen.) |
| 01:47.32 | joe_bleau | But it has never put any sort of tux logo up during startup. |
| 01:47.36 | das_plague | joe_bleau: i had to do the same thing with some linux thin clients i did |
| 01:48.05 | joe_bleau | I was looking at usplash, but I only see the default test pattern during a shutdown. |
| 01:48.08 | das_plague | joe_bleau: you probably don't have the vesafb turned on by default in grub |
| 01:48.31 | joe_bleau | You think I'd be better off attacking it from the grub side? |
| 01:49.06 | joe_bleau | I did get grub to show a splash, but it only lasted until the kernel was selected at the boot menu. |
| 01:50.16 | das_plague | joe_bleau: yea the trick is to use the same exact image |
| 01:50.24 | das_plague | joe_bleau: that way to user doesn't notice |
| 01:50.35 | joe_bleau | For the grub and kernel splash? |
| 01:50.56 | das_plague | joe_bleau: yea, we usually use for the bootloader the logo + "system starting" |
| 01:51.10 | joe_bleau | OK, makes sense. GRUB goes by pretty quickly, so a kernel splash would be a big improvement. |
| 01:51.13 | das_plague | joe_bleau: then when the kernel starts it shows the logo + " kernel booting" |
| 01:51.22 | joe_bleau | Sure, that sounds good. |
| 01:51.49 | das_plague | joe_bleau: then we use a framebuffer screen app to dump a logo when the system starts init |
| 01:51.55 | joe_bleau | My end-users don't want to look at the kernel stuff flying by, and it's taking 30-60s to come up to my app. |
| 01:52.09 | joe_bleau | lots of black screen time. |
| 01:52.13 | das_plague | joe_bleau: yea |
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| 01:52.36 | joe_bleau | BTW, I've been very happy with SDL + vesafb. Looks great on the 42" - 50" TVs. |
| 01:58.52 | joe_bleau | No clues on what to search for to control the linux splash screen? |
| 02:01.48 | das_plague | joe_bleau: just head for linux/drivers/video/logo |
| 02:01.55 | das_plague | joe_bleau: pretty well doc'd |
| 02:02.43 | joe_bleau | OK, I'm paging logo.c now. |
| 02:03.10 | joe_bleau | Maybe my kernel isn't config'd for a logo. |
| 02:04.45 | das_plague | joe_bleau: there is also a quiet boot kernel arg you can use |
| 02:05.02 | joe_bleau | .config: CONFIG_LOGO is not set |
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| 05:01.40 | joe_bleau | Oops. I guess I should have selected an image during the config... |
| 05:16.07 | joe_bleau | das_plague: thanks, I think we're on to something here. |
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| 05:53.54 | joe_bleau | Yes! das_plague FTW. It's not displaying my company's logo yet, but a 1024x768 sample that I found. I now know what to do. |
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| 14:13.36 | mnemoc | prpplague: pong |
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| 15:26.15 | kergoth | morning |
| 15:26.44 | prpplague | yea whatever |
| 15:27.26 | kergoth | heh |
| 15:27.57 | chouimat|work | hi |
| 15:28.05 | kergoth | sleeepy |
| 15:28.15 | chouimat|work | same here ... |
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| 17:43.57 | prpplague | man is it going to be a long 8 years |
| 17:44.41 | kergoth | ? |
| 17:46.03 | prpplague | kergoth: obama |
| 17:46.35 | kergoth | probably not a good idea to bring up politics in here, could easily get tempers flaring |
| 17:47.09 | prpplague | kergoth: indeed |
| 17:47.18 | SpeedEvil | Second 4 - Hilary! :) |
| 17:47.44 | kergoth | http://nickclifton.livejournal.com/1996.html - nice feed to have in the reader, i like the summaries of toolchain updates |
| 17:48.21 | prpplague | SpeedEvil: i'm sure that is on the agenda after obama's 8 |
| 17:48.56 | prpplague | as the GOP is pretty much dead as a political party |
| 17:49.39 | CosmicPenguin | Following the takeover of congress in 98 by the GOP, the democratic party was dead too |
| 17:49.58 | CosmicPenguin | we like to think that the events surrounding us are unique to our times, but they really are not |
| 17:51.08 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: no seriously, in just our county nearly 90% of the registered republicans have dropped off the roles and most are like me, who will never vote republican again |
| 17:51.15 | SpeedEvil | Political parties are kind of broken. |
| 17:51.21 | SpeedEvil | But there isn't a really good other system. |
| 17:51.21 | CosmicPenguin | its a cycle |
| 17:51.32 | SpeedEvil | appoints prpplague as president. |
| 17:52.02 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: i personally thinks this different, there is so much disgust at the GOP from within the GOP that i doubt it will ever recover |
| 17:52.25 | CosmicPenguin | right - like there wasn't disgust after Nixon |
| 17:53.05 | CosmicPenguin | until the Democrats elected somebody just as bad and then Reagan turned things around 180 degrees |
| 17:53.15 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: agreed there was some dust, but we have plenty of GOP folks from that error who say it is worst than that |
| 17:53.58 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: but through the carter error, the democrates still stood for the same items they had in the past |
| 17:54.02 | CosmicPenguin | The problem is that the losing party every cycle has a pity party for themselves |
| 17:54.27 | CosmicPenguin | and then they regroup, win back the congress during the midterm election |
| 17:54.31 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: hehe, i personally think that is not the case this time |
| 17:54.46 | CosmicPenguin | history has shown overwhelmingly that it is |
| 17:55.07 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: this particular condition has never happened before |
| 17:55.33 | CosmicPenguin | What, an amazingly popular president energizes the country? |
| 17:55.36 | CosmicPenguin | cough - jfk |
| 17:55.48 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: has nothing to do with obama |
| 17:55.54 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: has to do with the GOP |
| 17:56.18 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: even if McCain had one we'd still be in the same place with the GOP |
| 17:56.28 | CosmicPenguin | These things change over time |
| 17:56.56 | CosmicPenguin | There will always be 30 to 40% of the country that will agree with the basic planks of the conservative movement |
| 17:57.10 | CosmicPenguin | they will stand in opposition to the 30 to 40% of the country that agrees with the liberal movement |
| 17:57.36 | CosmicPenguin | what you are complaining about are the tactics that the current GOP leadership have adopted to try to intercept the remaining 40% of voters |
| 17:57.56 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: yes and out of lets say that 35% who agree with conservative movement, only about 20% agree with the GOP right now |
| 17:58.24 | CosmicPenguin | right |
| 17:58.33 | CosmicPenguin | but those same tactics were incredibly popular in '98, and getting bush elected.. twice |
| 17:59.17 | prpplague | i still believe this is a major turning point for the GOP, i don't believe it will ever recover |
| 17:59.46 | CosmicPenguin | All I'm saying is that people have said that many, many times, and it never turns out to be true |
| 17:59.49 | prpplague | i officially dropped my membership last week |
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| 18:00.37 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: yea i know it has it's ups and downs, but it has never been this bad where their core membership disagrees with 90% of the platform |
| 18:01.14 | CosmicPenguin | Well, the GOP has a new chairman coming in, we'll see what they can do |
| 18:01.38 | prpplague | HA, he's just as bad |
| 18:06.34 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: i voted against the republican for senate, and i intend to do so for the other senator in two years |
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| 19:06.24 | CosmicPenguin | kicks render_bench |
| 19:36.07 | keesj | prpplague: did you remeber patching openocd when releasing for the hammer? |
| 19:36.52 | prpplague | keesj: you mean for the official openocd release? or for the tincantools official release? |
| 19:39.11 | keesj | from the tincan tools cdrom. the binary is older then the given source and I can not compile an openocd from before or after that reproduces the same result |
| 19:39.47 | prpplague | keesj: should be the exact same source on the cd |
| 19:39.50 | prpplague | looks |
| 19:41.00 | prpplague | keesj: what i have on the CD is the exact same as what i built the openocd image for |
| 19:41.15 | prpplague | keesj: what makes you think it is different? |
| 19:41.32 | keesj | src/openocd.c:#define OPENOCD_VERSION "Open On-Chip Debugger (2007-08-21 18:30 CEST)" |
| 19:41.50 | keesj | v.s. the version given by the binaries |
| 19:42.04 | keesj | Info: openocd.c:93 main(): Open On-Chip Debugger (2007-09-05 09:00 CEST) |
| 19:43.02 | keesj | but my main problem is that the compiled version works v.s my version that doesn't :p |
| 19:43.27 | prpplague | keesj: what doesn't work on your compiled version? |
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| 19:46.48 | keesj | on my version I get these messages |
| 19:46.49 | keesj | http://www.paste-it.net/private/e7eb03c/ |
| 19:47.49 | prpplague | looks |
| 19:48.07 | keesj | I sill can connect afterwards but it's different , the initial scan chain detection failed |
| 19:48.48 | prpplague | keesj: hmm, that is odd indeed |
| 19:50.57 | prpplague | keesj: one sec testing |
| 19:51.45 | prpplague | keesj: i've not heard of anyone else having an issue with the openocd on the cd |
| 19:52.36 | keesj | http://www.paste-it.net/raw/public/a6187b1/ OK v.s. NOT OK |
| 19:52.59 | keesj | but there can be more reasons , perhaps I did not compile with the same libtfd2xx, |
| 19:53.46 | prpplague | keesj: indeed |
| 19:54.26 | keesj | I will try some more , thanks |
| 19:55.20 | keesj | I just wanted a good starting but apparently it is something else that is wrong with my setup(amd64) |
| 19:56.15 | prpplague | keesj: hmm looks like you were right, the cd image i have has matching binary and source, but the image that we have up on the web site has mismatched |
| 19:56.23 | prpplague | keesj: i'm uploading the matching source now |
| 19:56.49 | prpplague | keesj: http://www.tincantools.com/prpplague/openocd-hammer.tar.gz |
| 19:58.41 | keesj | that indeed looks different |
| 19:59.38 | keesj | crosses fingers |
| 20:00.05 | prpplague | keesj: but there wasn't anything special about the openocd, it should work right out of the box |
| 20:02.11 | keesj | indeed, still doesn't work but the date now matches |
| 20:07.19 | prpplague | keesj: which version of libftd2xx are you using? |
| 20:08.14 | keesj | libftd2xx.so.0.4.16 |
| 20:08.46 | keesj | the only and first one relased for amd64 , but I also compiled 32 bits version of openocd with the same version |
| 20:08.49 | prpplague | keesj: what was you configuration command line? |
| 20:08.59 | keesj | for openocd? |
| 20:09.04 | prpplague | keesj: yea |
| 20:09.53 | keesj | http://www.paste-it.net/raw/public/rc1525e/ |
| 20:10.01 | keesj | (just removed the flashing part) |
| 20:10.19 | prpplague | kergoth: sorry i mean when you did ./configure before compiling |
| 20:10.29 | prpplague | what flags for the configure did you use |
| 20:11.14 | keesj | <PROTECTED> |
| 20:12.00 | prpplague | keesj: hmm, i'm using libftd2xx.so.4.13 |
| 20:12.16 | prpplague | keesj: but that shouldn't matter since you are using the binary i generated |
| 20:12.31 | prpplague | kergoth: i'm wondering if this isn't related to a compile flag or something |
| 20:12.37 | kergoth | kicks prpplague |
| 20:12.51 | prpplague | kergoth: ?? for what? |
| 20:12.58 | kergoth | for pinging me repeatedly |
| 20:13.01 | kergoth | tab completion |
| 20:13.07 | kergoth | :) |
| 20:13.33 | prpplague | doh sorry |
| 20:13.40 | prpplague | didn't even realize i was doing it |
| 20:14.14 | prpplague | keesj: the binary from the cd works on your box right? |
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| 20:14.28 | keesj | indeed :( |
| 20:14.53 | prpplague | keesj: can you email me a copy of the binary you compiled? |
| 20:18.32 | keesj | do you hava a 64 bits machine? |
| 20:18.57 | prpplague | keesj: no, but i thought you said you compiled it for 32-bit as well |
| 20:19.26 | keesj | indeed but that wat openocd 0.1.0 |
| 20:19.56 | prpplague | ahh |
| 20:20.01 | prpplague | checks the openocd lists |
| 20:20.56 | keesj | of course I first started to try the hammer on the current openocd version and failing that started booth downgrading version and trying the 32 bits for example |
| 20:21.19 | keesj | I now think there is a chance the fdt2xx lib is causing the troubles |
| 20:22.18 | keesj | (compiling on a 200Mhz pentium is not that fast) |
| 20:22.19 | prpplague | keesj: this is the first reported problem i've heard of with openocd, so it could be the lib, could be the 64-bit |
| 20:22.41 | prpplague | keesj: hmm |
| 20:23.19 | prpplague | keesj: have tried down grading your lib to 0.4.13 32-bit version? |
| 20:24.00 | keesj | not yet, that the next thing to try |
| 20:26.09 | keesj | 100+ people form the company I work for where sent home today, that really makes me want to cry |
| 20:29.57 | prpplague | keesj: holy cow |
| 20:30.49 | keesj | I never seen something like that before. I know in the US this is more "normal" but in the EU I think it's strange |
| 20:30.52 | chouimat|work | keesj: ouch |
| 20:36.31 | keesj | prpplague: cool the 32 bits self compiled "openocd-hammer" version works |
| 20:36.41 | prpplague | keesj: ahh dandy |
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| 20:37.47 | keesj | at least I know where to look but compiling on my router http://www.norhtec.com/ is not that handy |
| 20:44.24 | mnemoc | keesj: not strange in spain :( |
| 20:46.04 | mnemoc | keesj: we passed in 12 months from the best unemployment rate in 15 years to the worst in the same range |
| 20:52.22 | keesj | how sad |
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| 21:23.37 | keesj | and the winner is the 64 bits version of the ftd2xx as using the open source ftdi lib works! |
| 21:26.07 | mnemoc | :) |
| 21:28.41 | keesj | who doesn't love binaries? |
| 21:29.36 | MonMotha | keesj: I've attempted to hack on Windows stuff. Boy does that suck. |
| 21:29.43 | MonMotha | DLL hell combined with a lack of LD_PRELOAD |
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