| 00:00.00 | g1powermac_PB | and that was a 3 ft snow storm back in NJ |
| 00:02.08 | das_plague | yea we are in for ice as well |
| 00:03.04 | joe_bleau | Ice is here as well. I left work at noon to beat it home. |
| 00:03.10 | joe_bleau | Looks like snow day tomorrow! |
| 00:03.41 | g1powermac_PB | meh, this really isn't good for us |
| 00:03.51 | ds2 | and they say there is global warming... must be some hot ice ;) |
| 00:03.59 | g1powermac_PB | this kind of storm could cause a total state closure for most of the week |
| 00:04.27 | g1powermac_PB | which means lots of lost sales, which we really don't need right now |
| 00:05.29 | CosmicPenguin | ds2: actually, they say that the models show that the effects of global (worldwide warming) will be ice storms in the US |
| 00:05.40 | CosmicPenguin | unfun |
| 00:05.54 | g1powermac_PB | we've gotten hit hard with this year with the weather |
| 00:06.05 | ds2 | so that description is really a misnomer then ;) |
| 00:06.09 | g1powermac_PB | more than the economic recession |
| 00:06.26 | CosmicPenguin | snow is fine - ice, not so much |
| 00:06.43 | g1powermac_PB | its amazing how much our business is affected by the weather |
| 00:07.00 | ds2 | just don't drive :D |
| 00:07.24 | g1powermac_PB | CosmicPenguin: the worst is a mix of snow, ice, and rain |
| 00:07.58 | CosmicPenguin | snow is fluffy |
| 00:08.00 | CosmicPenguin | ice is death |
| 00:08.02 | g1powermac_PB | especially if there's a small layer of snow underneath the ice which is then covered in more snow and rain |
| 00:08.22 | g1powermac_PB | the small layer of snow on the bottom will prevent the de-icing chemicals from working on the roads |
| 00:09.10 | joe_bleau | Assuming your state even has de-ice chemicals... |
| 00:09.35 | g1powermac_PB | joe_bleau: thats the one thing we do have, they keep spraying the stuff all winter long |
| 00:09.47 | g1powermac_PB | just don't expect snow ploughs though |
| 00:10.14 | CosmicPenguin | In utah, they use salt |
| 00:10.23 | CosmicPenguin | because, you know, its just laying around |
| 00:10.28 | g1powermac_PB | heh |
| 00:10.29 | ds2 | what do they use nowadays? I remember salt being the main thing |
| 00:10.32 | joe_bleau | Our guys don't have plows, but they get the road graders out (with blades) if it gets deep enough. |
| 00:10.48 | joe_bleau | Calcium chloride solution, perhaps? |
| 00:10.49 | CosmicPenguin | On the other hand, the mag cloride they use in Colorado is sticky |
| 00:10.52 | g1powermac_PB | I've seen a multitude of different things |
| 00:11.20 | g1powermac_PB | salts, chemicals, sand, and even crumbled asphalt |
| 00:11.35 | g1powermac_PB | it depends on the road and the grade of the road |
| 00:12.29 | joe_bleau | We use sand, but it obviously doesn't melt ice. |
| 00:12.32 | g1powermac_PB | steep, untreated roads get the asphalt, supposedly it provides the best traction |
| 00:12.32 | CosmicPenguin | Wyoming uses sand, because you know, its just laying around |
| 00:12.44 | g1powermac_PB | then comes sand and maybe some salt |
| 00:13.02 | g1powermac_PB | and finally most of the major roads are pre-treated with the de-icing chemicals |
| 00:14.18 | joe_bleau | I'm sticking all my portable stuff on the chargers, so when we lose power I can still listen to the ipod. |
| 00:14.36 | ds2 | pantry stocked and plenty of firewood? |
| 00:14.40 | g1powermac_PB | hrmm, hope we don't lose power |
| 00:14.57 | g1powermac_PB | we'd have no heat |
| 00:14.58 | joe_bleau | Yeah, natural gas burners too. |
| 00:15.12 | g1powermac_PB | (all electric here) |
| 00:15.53 | ds2 | got bottled water? |
| 00:16.05 | g1powermac_PB | yes |
| 00:16.19 | g1powermac_PB | we don't drink the tap water here |
| 00:16.34 | g1powermac_PB | it really isn't safe around here. . . |
| 00:16.50 | g1powermac_PB | there's a major water main break every few months |
| 00:17.14 | g1powermac_PB | had one just a few weeks ago, cut off water for much of the night |
| 00:17.54 | ds2 | oh |
| 00:18.35 | g1powermac_PB | and when we lived in the more rural side of the town the water was so bad there was chunks of lime coming out of the tap |
| 00:18.48 | ds2 | is this river or well? |
| 00:18.59 | g1powermac_PB | the chunks literally clogged up our washing machine |
| 00:19.13 | g1powermac_PB | not sure where the town is getting the water from |
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| 00:19.28 | CosmicPenguin | heh - I would drink bottled water, if I were you |
| 00:19.47 | ds2 | at least it is only lime |
| 00:19.52 | g1powermac_PB | CosmicPenguin: exactly why we drink bottled water :-) |
| 00:20.11 | g1powermac_PB | ds2: who knows what else is going through the pipes |
| 00:20.23 | joe_bleau | Can you filter it? |
| 00:20.37 | g1powermac_PB | if we didn't rent, we prolly could |
| 00:20.57 | g1powermac_PB | those small little filters that go on the tap would die quickly |
| 00:21.05 | joe_bleau | After all, most bottled water is filtered tap water. |
| 00:21.07 | g1powermac_PB | we'd need one of those super whole house filters |
| 00:21.34 | g1powermac_PB | especially one with an ultraviolet pathogen destroying device |
| 00:23.04 | g1powermac_PB | you don't want to get biologically active water in a mineral type filter, bacteria can grow in those filters |
| 00:23.33 | g1powermac_PB | and with the water main breaks and boil water advisories we have every few month, we'd need one of those ultraviolet devices |
| 00:25.51 | g1powermac_PB | though the lime and water main breaks doesn't compare to the one story I heard from one of my professors |
| 00:26.49 | g1powermac_PB | the college I went to is only a couple of counties away and about 15 or so years ago right around finals week, some did a water test of the college's water |
| 00:27.05 | g1powermac_PB | in the water they found a ton of nasty chemicals |
| 00:27.49 | g1powermac_PB | they had to shut the college down right before finals week, and they found the chemicals were coming from a leaking gasoline tank at a pump station |
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| 14:40.25 | prpplague | joe_bleau: hey bud |
| 14:43.00 | joe_bleau | Yeah, lost power for three hours last night. Gotta move stuff out of the driveway--limbs are starting to break. |
| 14:43.25 | joe_bleau | 50 miles of icy highway between me and work, so I'm not going in this morning. |
| 14:45.39 | g1powermac_PB | joe_bleau: I wish my parents would think that way |
| 14:45.59 | g1powermac_PB | joe_bleau: we didn't get much snow, but enough with a thick layer of ice on top of it |
| 14:46.11 | g1powermac_PB | making for an extremely slick condition |
| 14:46.39 | g1powermac_PB | and yet they decided to still goto the store. . .they couldn't even get the car out of the driveway |
| 14:47.34 | prpplague | joe_bleau: yea, it has started getting icy here as well |
| 14:47.35 | g1powermac_PB | only the rear wheel pick up truck which was only able to get out of the driveway because it was the nearest to the road |
| 14:47.58 | g1powermac_PB | so now they're driving to the store in the absolute worst vehicle for icy road conditions |
| 14:48.42 | g1powermac_PB | and its still icing out |
| 14:49.29 | g1powermac_PB | truly wonders if he is going to get a phone call later today that either they're stuck at the store or got in an accident |
| 14:52.39 | joe_bleau | Sounds like it's not a thinking problem, but a lazy problem. |
| 14:52.56 | joe_bleau | Those who want to work go in, those of us who don't...find a reason not to? |
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| 16:06.11 | prpplague | hehe note from boss 'On the Linux version, we also need to add in the WPA/WPA2 user interface and localize the device for the U.S so the calendar isn?t European and words like ?color? are spelled properly.' |
| 16:06.22 | prpplague | told me i spelled colour wrong |
| 16:07.17 | chouimat|work | :) |
| 16:07.34 | CosmicPenguin | yay xenophobia |
| 16:07.37 | MonMotha | prpplague: your boss african or european? |
| 16:08.10 | MonMotha | (makes a difference in unladen air speed velocity, after all) |
| 16:08.44 | CosmicPenguin | nice |
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| 16:11.50 | prpplague | yea, that lack of the basic understanding of engineering, software development, and product on the part of management amazes me |
| 16:13.58 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: the boss wanted me to write a gui app to configure some custom buttons on the keyboard, _before_ the driver even existed |
| 16:15.24 | CosmicPenguin | GUI is more important |
| 16:15.27 | CosmicPenguin | don't you know tht? |
| 16:15.42 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: aparently |
| 16:15.58 | CosmicPenguin | Thats the business plan that make OLPC a world wide phenonomon |
| 16:16.05 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: i went ahead and wrote the app, put it on the device |
| 16:16.12 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: so he could see it |
| 16:16.26 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: and then says "uh this app is broken it doesn't do anything" |
| 16:16.34 | prpplague | well duh? |
| 16:17.41 | CosmicPenguin | http://www.pcworld.idg.com.au/article/274414/amd_sees_no_geode_chip_replacement_sight |
| 16:17.53 | CosmicPenguin | You guys won - where do I send the congratulatory fruit basket? |
| 16:20.52 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: ?? |
| 16:21.32 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: no one wins with that |
| 16:22.28 | CosmicPenguin | ARM defeats x86 - film at 11 |
| 16:23.28 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: i don't believe that, i think AMD just didn't stick with a market that was theirs to take |
| 16:24.12 | CosmicPenguin | heh - look at slashdot |
| 16:24.24 | CosmicPenguin | Top article, Coreboto (LinuxBIOS) can Boot Windows 7 Beta |
| 16:24.32 | CosmicPenguin | next article, End of the Road for AMD'S Geode chip |
| 16:24.34 | CosmicPenguin | now, if that isn't irony |
| 16:24.42 | prpplague | indeed |
| 16:28.56 | CosmicPenguin | David Anders has joined Windows CE |
| 16:29.09 | CosmicPenguin | peers out the window for flying pigs |
| 16:29.17 | CosmicPenguin | it is certainly cold enough today for hell to freeze over |
| 16:44.57 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: hehe |
| 16:45.10 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: i'm older and alot more pragmatic |
| 16:49.50 | CosmicPenguin | Aren't we all? |
| 16:50.05 | CosmicPenguin | Unfortunately, Microsoft laid off some of the Win Mobile people |
| 16:50.09 | CosmicPenguin | not sure what the effect will be there |
| 16:50.41 | CosmicPenguin | Or at least, that divison |
| 16:59.52 | Crofton|work | I'm wondering what will happen at TI |
| 17:00.37 | prpplague | Crofton|work: its pretty bad from what i hear |
| 17:01.09 | Crofton|work | are they axing any product lines? the scandal pages are not clear |
| 17:01.13 | prpplague | i was considering moving on to some other job, but in light of the current job market, i think i'm just going to keep a low profile here at AML |
| 17:01.22 | Crofton|work | heh |
| 17:01.31 | prpplague | Crofton|work: no real product lines cut from what i hear, just mostly support staff |
| 17:01.46 | Crofton|work | too bad they don't cut some damagers |
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| 18:02.01 | g1powermac_PB | ugh, the ice is really starting to accumulate |
| 18:02.26 | g1powermac_PB | quite thick layer of ice now over the snow, and its amazingly slick |
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| 18:19.47 | prpplague | ho ho hum |
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| 18:37.58 | joe_bleau | I see Ganssle is pushing Ada this week. |
| 18:39.04 | JoeLlama | jack is my hero :) |
| 18:39.19 | joe_bleau | I saw him on a History Channel show once! |
| 18:42.25 | ds2 | so when is the funeral for the Son of MediaGX? |
| 18:44.16 | joe_bleau | Did OLPC kill off the Geode? |
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| 18:55.57 | prpplague | joe_bleau: no CosmicPenguin did |
| 18:56.28 | mnemoc | die x86 die |
| 18:58.00 | CosmicPenguin | I killed it? |
| 18:58.11 | CosmicPenguin | I plugged in the respirator |
| 18:58.54 | joe_bleau | Look at it this way: it's probably the most successful micro to ever come out of NSC. |
| 18:59.18 | CosmicPenguin | well, technically the Via is |
| 18:59.28 | CosmicPenguin | but don't split hairs |
| 18:59.58 | joe_bleau | Doh. Got me there. |
| 19:00.24 | ds2 | Cyrix |
| 19:00.59 | ds2 | AFAIK, VIA had nothing to do with the Geode? |
| 19:01.14 | CosmicPenguin | Cyrix came first, then they split into two chunks, NSC and the basis for what eventually became the VIA processors |
| 19:02.06 | joe_bleau | How does Centaur figure in? |
| 19:02.25 | CosmicPenguin | The Cyrix name was used on the Centaur chip |
| 19:02.38 | CosmicPenguin | I don't know if any of the IP snuck in there too |
| 19:02.52 | ds2 | thought VIA only got the Desktop stuff, Geode was from the MediaGX branch or did I forget something? |
| 19:03.28 | CosmicPenguin | Its all on wikipedia |
| 19:03.37 | ds2 | goes to look |
| 19:05.38 | ds2 | according to the Geode page, VIA didn't have much to do with it |
| 19:06.05 | CosmicPenguin | No - the split was pretty much MediaGX to NSC everything else to VIA |
| 19:06.40 | CosmicPenguin | Or, to be perfectly technical, NSC kept the MediaGX |
| 19:09.47 | ds2 | yeah, so VIA did get just the desktop stuff |
| 19:30.37 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: i was joking around with you, i know you did alot of work keeping the geode stuff alive |
| 19:31.13 | ds2 | wonder what's to become of the pepper pad |
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| 21:27.20 | J4k3 | come to quiznos... they have a pepper bar |
| 23:31.48 | das_plague | ho ho hum |
| 23:32.26 | g1powermac_PB | loves our local news people |
| 23:32.40 | g1powermac_PB | we're starting to get power outages due to the ice |
| 23:32.55 | g1powermac_PB | and some of the counties are setting up shelters for the people without power |
| 23:33.36 | g1powermac_PB | and the news people decided to let all these people without power where the shelters are, except there's one major problem, the people without power don't have working tv's to watch the news. . . |
| 23:35.08 | das_plague | doh |
| 23:37.27 | CosmicPenguin | thats unfair though |
| 23:37.47 | CosmicPenguin | you try to reach as many people as you can regardless of how likely it is that they will be listening |
| 23:38.05 | CosmicPenguin | sometimes local news is stupid, but I don't think in this case |
| 23:38.20 | CosmicPenguin | also, its news you can you when _your_ power goes out.. :) |
| 23:38.26 | g1powermac_PB | maybe so, but it still funny |
| 23:38.53 | g1powermac_PB | well, thats the thing, entire towns are going down |
| 23:39.23 | g1powermac_PB | so no one in the county is getting power anyway, well, anyone in the more populated part of the county |
| 23:41.29 | g1powermac_PB | so if our power goes down, there's a good shot most of the town will be down and we won't know where and if the shelter will be anyway |
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| 23:49.03 | joe_bleau | Some people listen to the audio carrier on their battery powered scanners/radios, at least until we turn off analog. |
| 23:49.27 | g1powermac_PB | if that ever actually happens. . . |
| 23:50.11 | CosmicPenguin | I vote its not |
| 23:50.20 | CosmicPenguin | stupid, stupid, stupid, stupid.... |
| 23:51.02 | joe_bleau | All I can say is that my dad has the local TV audio frequencies programmed in his scanner. |
| 23:55.25 | das_plague | hacks his television and replaces the V-chip with an O-chip |
| 23:56.11 | g1powermac_PB | heh |
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| 23:58.17 | das_plague | "now available! the O-chip, for all of those who are already sick of obama" |
| 23:58.41 | g1powermac_PB | hahaha |
| 23:58.53 | g1powermac_PB | the news has really gone insane with obama |
| 23:59.37 | ds2 | insanity is about right |