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| 07:40.10 | methril | yo |
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| 08:27.11 | damunix | morning |
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| 09:12.03 | damunix | I use openocd to flah my tin can tools board, the default script flash all memory (ie, bootloader, kernel and rootfs) |
| 09:12.16 | damunix | but can I just flash kernel ? |
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| 12:25.29 | Mirell | Oh my eyes.. |
| 12:27.50 | methril | Mirell: What happen with your eyes? |
| 12:28.10 | Mirell | methril: I've been working with stuff like this all this night: http://pastebin.com/d5708c070 |
| 12:29.12 | methril | hehehe |
| 12:29.35 | Mirell | It gets to you after 4-5 hours.. |
| 12:30.58 | methril | well, looking that regular expressions i could understand that you are tired :D |
| 12:32.16 | Mirell | And those are the "easy" ones, so yah.. |
| 12:32.49 | methril | is that for some package manager? |
| 12:33.51 | Mirell | It's for a build system I didn't write, but am being paid to maintain for now.. |
| 12:34.41 | Mirell | I quite dislike it, but since I can do REGEX, I'm tasked with just this stuff, which is quite less horrid than actually maintaining it's insane cross-compiler environment. |
| 12:35.11 | Mirell | Er, its. |
| 12:36.32 | Mirell | But for less insanity, it's Gentoo From Scatch/Firmware Linux when I'm not doing this. ^^ |
| 13:28.44 | damunix | anyone already try to had a rtc external device to an arm ? I would like some informations about it.... I tryed to had ds1672 device, but It doesn't appear to work... Do you know where is define the i2c address of the device ? |
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| 14:47.33 | damunix | hi prpplague |
| 14:48.05 | damunix | just a question : could you give me a link to the bug report of our usb problem ? you said a bug report has been made |
| 14:50.19 | prpplague | damunix: i said it was a know issue and that several people had reported it on the mailing list. i don't recal where it is, but you should be able to use http://www.google.com/linux pretty easy to find it |
| 14:50.31 | prpplague | damunix: but it does appear so far that the problem is fixed in 2.6.28 |
| 14:53.20 | damunix | sorry, but I can't find it |
| 14:53.31 | damunix | You think it has been fixed ? |
| 14:55.32 | prpplague | damunix: so far it looks like it has been |
| 14:57.21 | damunix | jsut a note : my problem with 2.6.28 has been fixed (it could not boot), It was a problem of serial console config |
| 14:57.42 | damunix | http://www.elinux.org/Hammer_How_to_build_Kernel |
| 14:58.58 | prpplague | damunix: ahh, i assumed you used the old config file which already has that enabled |
| 14:59.24 | prpplague | damunix: you can use an old config file in a newer kernel, just copy it to .config and run "make oldconfig" |
| 14:59.44 | damunix | ok |
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| 15:06.13 | prpplague | ok who let the zombie in? |
| 15:06.20 | prpplague | points to samrobb |
| 15:06.49 | samrobb | growls "Brains.... BRAIIIINNNSS...." |
| 15:07.42 | samrobb | 'course, most of the folks in Pittsburgh are wandering around like zombies this morning, anyways... |
| 15:09.54 | prpplague | hehe |
| 15:13.02 | keesj | hi |
| 15:13.40 | prpplague | keesj: greetings earthling |
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| 15:25.06 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: greetings |
| 15:25.18 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: are you becoming "qual"ified ? |
| 15:25.45 | prpplague | fails at his attempt of monday morning humor |
| 15:26.28 | keesj | :p |
| 15:30.22 | CosmicPenguin | Not qualfied one bit |
| 15:37.42 | prpplague | ho ho ho, merry freakin monday |
| 15:42.07 | solar | would rather it not be monday |
| 15:44.45 | prpplague | solar: me too, i needed one more day of recouperation |
| 15:44.49 | prpplague | (sp?) |
| 15:49.15 | solar | I was having fun. brewed up 4 gallons of hard cider and a gallon of hard lemonade |
| 15:49.44 | solar | the hard lemonade is quite foamy right now |
| 15:50.48 | prpplague | hehe |
| 15:51.21 | prpplague | hard cider isn't too had to do right, just as long as you don't get any cross contamination with foreign bateria or yeast |
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| 16:03.56 | mnemoc | prpplague: any meeting today? :) |
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| 16:06.21 | prpplague | mnemoc: no meetings today, i'll have you tracking info around 1:30 CST |
| 16:09.09 | mnemoc | :D |
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| 17:27.31 | keesj | what does a small letter n mean in schematics like "nOE1" or "nTRST" |
| 17:28.21 | adyer1 | keesj: usually negative true for progs that dont let you draw an overbar |
| 17:28.28 | prpplague | hmm |
| 17:29.00 | prpplague | i wonder if ben dooks is sick or no longer with simtec, i notice someone else at simtec is doing all the s3cxxxx patches now |
| 17:30.32 | keesj | last and first time I talked to him He still was (about two month ago). he did the s3x64xx initial port |
| 17:32.49 | keesj | alright so that for example "TRST" is active low, would that be the right term? |
| 17:33.36 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: ping |
| 17:33.44 | adyer1 | keesj: yes, some people also use a trailing * or # or _n |
| 17:34.07 | prpplague | keesj: yes that is correct |
| 17:34.52 | prpplague | keesj: most engineers in the US will use the "n" designation |
| 17:38.34 | keesj | I have so much to learn, it makes me happy |
| 17:38.40 | prpplague | keesj: hehe |
| 17:39.05 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: ping me when you got a second, need some advice on a driver issue |
| 17:42.37 | dijenerate | hi all |
| 17:42.47 | adyer1 | keesj: the leading n thing is only ok as long as your cad system preserves case :-) |
| 17:43.22 | dijenerate | anyone here familiar with the Nomadix AG300? |
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| 17:51.01 | CosmicPenguin | prpplague: what up? |
| 17:52.05 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: hey, i'm using the stock drivers/input/mouse/gpio_mouse.c for the track ball on the 8050, but i had to add a bunch of tweaks to deal with debouncing and such |
| 17:52.50 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: question, think it is worth just spliting it over to another driver name? i.e. just copy my gpio_mouse.c over to m8050_tb.c ? |
| 17:53.01 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: and leave the original gpio_mouse.c unmolested? |
| 17:54.09 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: or should i modify with the gpio_mouse.c with a bunch of generic tweaks that i can take advantage of? |
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| 17:55.06 | landley | waves at prpplague. |
| 17:55.09 | landley | Still got you working on wince? |
| 17:55.12 | prpplague | landley: hey bud! |
| 17:55.17 | prpplague | landley: yea off and on |
| 17:55.23 | prpplague | landley: how goes the new biz? |
| 17:55.29 | landley | Pretty well. |
| 17:55.29 | prpplague | landley: beating up the cisco folks? |
| 17:55.44 | landley | prpplague: no, I've quit the SFLC because of the cisco lawsuit. |
| 17:55.51 | landley | It's Mepis II. I no longer trust their judgement. |
| 17:55.55 | landley | No more busybox lawsuits from me. |
| 17:56.08 | landley | Their partnership with the FSF cost them my continued participation. Oh well. |
| 17:56.26 | prpplague | landley: yea, well, i had the same experience with them |
| 17:56.30 | landley | I blogged about it at some length. |
| 17:56.38 | landley | With the SFLC, the FSF, or Cisco? |
| 17:56.47 | prpplague | landley: SFLC |
| 17:57.05 | prpplague | landley: actually i was refering to you and mirell getting the cisco builds into shape |
| 17:58.48 | landley | prpplague: we're working on it. |
| 17:59.13 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: i'm leaning towards just copying over the gpio_mouse.c to m8050_tb.c and adding my tweaks |
| 17:59.15 | landley | Mirell's currently blocked on some of gentoo's common build infrastructure wanting "useradd" and "groupadd", which busybox odesn't provide. |
| 17:59.23 | landley | I'm writing toybox versions of both. |
| 17:59.37 | CosmicPenguin | prpplague: thats probably best |
| 17:59.41 | landley | Mirell's doing a pretty kbuild gui for gentoo packages in the meantime. |
| 17:59.45 | CosmicPenguin | prpplague: unless you think you can get generic enough |
| 17:59.58 | prpplague | landley: yea, bb once had those functions in it, but there was some big stink about it |
| 18:00.19 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: i probably could get generic enough, but i think the limiting factor is time |
| 18:00.24 | CosmicPenguin | prpplague: if you were a different user, would your hacks to gpio_mouse.c be useful to you? |
| 18:00.39 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: yea if done properly |
| 18:01.42 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: i think i'll go ahead with a seperate driver, submit the patches with it, and if someone complains, fold the changes back into gpio_mouse.c |
| 18:05.03 | CosmicPenguin | always a good policy |
| 18:10.07 | landley | prpplague: it's got adduser and addgroup, but not useradd and groupadd. (And it doesn't have usermod either.) |
| 18:10.10 | landley | shrugs. |
| 18:10.35 | landley | Off to meet Stu for lunch... |
| 18:10.42 | prpplague | landley: later bud |
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| 18:20.49 | dijenerate | hi all |
| 18:21.42 | ds2 | morning |
| 18:21.51 | dijenerate | how goes it? |
| 18:22.04 | ds2 | it is a monday morning =) |
| 18:22.12 | dijenerate | point taken |
| 18:22.16 | dijenerate | :) |
| 18:22.28 | prpplague | dijenerate: greetings! hows the island today? |
| 18:22.46 | ds2 | anyone know of a short summary of the changes from ARMv4 to ARMv5 to ARMv6 to ARMv7? |
| 18:22.54 | ds2 | island? djenerate is on an island? |
| 18:22.55 | dijenerate | sunny, windy and warm... perfect weather |
| 18:22.58 | dijenerate | :) |
| 18:23.22 | dijenerate | prpplague: how goes it you side of the woods? |
| 18:23.43 | ds2 | dijenerate: which island are you on? |
| 18:23.53 | dijenerate | ds2: Barbados |
| 18:23.54 | prpplague | dijenerate: little chilly today |
| 18:24.11 | dijenerate | prpplague: only a little is good |
| 18:24.13 | dijenerate | :) |
| 18:24.14 | ds2 | oh nice tropical carribean |
| 18:24.19 | dijenerate | absolutely |
| 18:24.55 | dijenerate | btw, my new company site is in beta 2 so have a look and feedback is welcome: http://www.smdwireless.com |
| 18:25.25 | dijenerate | and currently only the Barbados site is up so you'll have to go to Caribbean, Barbados to see more than the front page |
| 18:26.50 | dijenerate | webstore is also up (consumer products mostly) but we haven't started to populate the database yet |
| 18:26.53 | dijenerate | direct to webstore : http://bb.smdwireless.com/store |
| 18:27.01 | dijenerate | this is what the island is about to get |
| 18:27.49 | dijenerate | (I assume since I'm not selling anything here, this doesn't violate channel rules) |
| 18:28.29 | dijenerate | and best stat... this entire site is written in Php and javascript... NO FLASH |
| 18:31.01 | dijenerate | what do you think prpplague: this should start to change the way things are on the island? |
| 18:31.24 | dijenerate | prpplague: create more tech jobs and tech opportunities? |
| 18:31.52 | prpplague | dijenerate: indeed |
| 18:32.50 | dijenerate | fewer IT suits |
| 18:33.00 | dijenerate | and more true IT pros |
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| 18:43.47 | ds2 | found that info buried in a slide but it raises another qestuon... how's this "TCM" thing different from a cache? |
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| 19:07.40 | dijenerate | ds2: it differs in the intent, cache is generic, TCM is for world domination |
| 19:07.42 | dijenerate | :) |
| 19:09.43 | dijenerate | btw, has anyone here ever worked with Nomadix hardware like the AG3000? |
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| 19:46.50 | Mirell | *yawn* |
| 19:51.22 | mnemoc | looks at prpplague *g* |
| 19:52.23 | prpplague | mnemoc: going to shipping in about 20 minutes |
| 19:53.05 | mnemoc | :D |
| 19:53.43 | mnemoc | label himself as pain in the ars |
| 19:56.40 | prpplague | mnemoc: hehe, naw, i need to be nagged |
| 19:57.07 | mnemoc | =) |
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| 20:18.55 | prpplague | man oh man, there is alot of brokeness for the s3c24xx in 2.6.28 |
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| 20:25.03 | mnemoc | i thought you were playing with .29 |
| 20:25.18 | prpplague | mnemoc: no .28 |
| 20:25.43 | prpplague | mnemoc: .29 is too bleeding edge |
| 20:25.49 | prpplague | mnemoc: i don't like moving targets |
| 20:41.34 | Mirell | I've determined my new calling in life. |
| 20:41.41 | Mirell | Become an Apple product case designer. |
| 20:41.47 | Mirell | I'll be a millionare in three weeks. |
| 20:42.55 | prpplague | hehe |
| 20:43.12 | prpplague | will always be poor |
| 20:43.12 | g1powermac_PB | Mirell: big tip, make sure all your designs are made out of aluminum ;-) |
| 20:44.34 | Mirell | Haven't seen many third party cases out of aluminum. |
| 20:44.57 | Mirell | I'm talking about like the neoprene MacBook sleeves and iPod/iPhone plastic cases stuff |
| 20:45.04 | g1powermac_PB | ahh |
| 20:45.13 | Mirell | I just spent $80 buying a case for my iPhone and a sleeve for the MacBook.. |
| 20:45.19 | Mirell | I mean...dang...that stuff is expensive. |
| 20:45.28 | Mirell | So I need to design it and make millions. :D |
| 20:45.52 | g1powermac_PB | hehehe |
| 20:46.50 | g1powermac_PB | ponders what to do with 12ml of 22% carbamide peroxide gel |
| 20:47.41 | g1powermac_PB | some crazy dentist sent us four vials of the stuff as teeth whitening gel for free |
| 20:48.14 | solar | hint perhaps? |
| 20:48.40 | g1powermac_PB | heh, no, they did like a mass mailing of the stuff |
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| 20:49.45 | g1powermac_PB | there must be some other use for this stuff. . . |
| 20:54.11 | Mirell | Huh. |
| 20:54.20 | Mirell | thinks |
| 20:55.02 | Mirell | What's the effective decorative benefit with that versus bleach on bone? |
| 20:56.05 | g1powermac_PB | not sure |
| 20:56.15 | Mirell | Worth investigating. |
| 20:56.32 | Mirell | I envision very white chicken bone sculptures. |
| 20:57.08 | g1powermac_PB | hmm |
| 21:00.48 | g1powermac_PB | I wonder what other stuff this peroxide would bleach |
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| 21:48.13 | keesj | Bugger, just when I was ready to submit a patch to urjtag to support the flyswatter I discover that the svn version already has support |
| 21:50.32 | keesj | at least my version works! |
| 21:52.18 | solar | Does the one in svn fail to work? |
| 22:04.37 | prpplague | keesj: hehe, urjtag has flyswatter support? |
| 22:10.02 | prpplague | jeeze, boss is complaining abou the state of GPE angstrom image |
| 22:10.11 | prpplague | duh, i didn't write any of those! |
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| 22:12.24 | CosmicPenguin | I thought you were done with the penguin |
| 22:14.12 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: no new products, still got support the current ones |
| 22:15.21 | CosmicPenguin | well, thats the worst of both worlds |
| 22:24.15 | prpplague | indeed |
| 22:26.03 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: crap, got a horrible bug with gpiolib driving me nuts |
| 22:26.48 | CosmicPenguin | I feel your pain - I just went a few rounds with X |
| 22:27.09 | HcE | gpiolib behaves nice for me, what are you doing prpplague ? |
| 22:28.13 | prpplague | HcE: gpio_request() fails with a -22(-EINVAL) on a small set of gpio's for the S3C24xx series, GPG10 , GPG11, GPG12 |
| 22:29.12 | HcE | prpplague: do not know the arch that well, but are they reserved for GPIO? Could something in the kernel machine code prevent them for being GPIO until you call a function setting some GPIO bits in the board code? |
| 22:30.33 | prpplague | HcE: i'm pretty familiar with the platform, however 2.6.28 saw the change over from some arch specific gpio calls to using gpiolib |
| 22:31.01 | prpplague | HcE: from what i can tell it is most likely something is marking it as reserved, still digging though |
| 22:31.33 | HcE | prpplague: I have to call a select_gpio() function in my board code for the lines I want to use as GPIO later |
| 22:31.49 | HcE | but this is on AVR32 arch, although it uses gpiolib as well |
| 22:33.43 | prpplague | yea, you should have to do that on the s3c24xx, but i'll have a quick test |
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| 22:38.06 | prpplague | HcE: yep found it |
| 22:38.25 | prpplague | HcE: looks like someone did a cut-n-paste for 10 on all the gpio definitions |
| 22:38.34 | prpplague | HcE: GPG has 16 available |
| 22:43.34 | GPSFan | prpplague: hey, I've got the Z2's libertas driver to the point of trying to load the firmware. do you know if it needs a hotplug script to load it? it's timing out with a file not found error. |
| 22:44.14 | prpplague | GPSFan: normally no, it just looks for the firmware in /lib/firmware |
| 22:45.10 | GPSFan | I've got it in /lib/firmware/libertas/ which is where the patches say it is suppopsed to be. maybe I'll move it and see what happens. |
| 22:46.35 | prpplague | GPSFan: i normally place them in /lib/firmware |
| 22:46.45 | prpplague | iirc the code has a default path |
| 22:46.47 | prpplague | looks |
| 22:47.48 | prpplague | GPSFan: yea the readme says /lib/firmware |
| 22:48.31 | GPSFan | yeah, but this: says libertas/ http://lists.infradead.org/pipermail/libertas-dev/2009-January/002136.html |
| 22:49.19 | prpplague | looks |
| 22:49.22 | GPSFan | I tried it there too, and it still fails |
| 22:50.00 | prpplague | hmm |
| 22:50.02 | prpplague | bummer |
| 22:50.29 | GPSFan | it figured out that the chip was an 8686, so I think the spi interface is takling. |
| 22:50.49 | prpplague | ahh |
| 22:52.07 | GPSFan | I can see that the kernel sets up the /sys/class/firmware/spi1.o/ entries, and removes them after the timeout expires. |
| 22:53.20 | GPSFan | I can see that /sys/class/firmware/spi1.o/loading =0 and when it returns the error is -2 (ENOENT) ie. file/dir not found. |
| 22:53.58 | prpplague | GPSFan: hmm sounds like maybe something isnt configured |
| 22:54.08 | prpplague | GPSFan: i assume you have firmware support turned on in the kernel |
| 22:55.20 | prpplague | GPSFan: gotta run, bbiab |
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| 23:41.13 | GPSFan | prpplague: yes, I do, and debugging too, I get "libertas_spi spi1.0: firmware: requesting libertas/gspi8686_hlp.bin" and then it waits 60 sec and times out error = -2 |
| 23:41.45 | MonMotha | I assume that file exists in the right place? |
| 23:42.22 | prpplague | GPSFan: hmm , time to printk the heck out of the firmware upload routine |
| 23:43.03 | GPSFan | yeah, that's what I was thinking too, strace is useless since it all happens in the driver/kernel. |
| 23:43.12 | GPSFan | thanks... |
| 23:43.36 | prpplague | GPSFan: yea, that kind of stuff i have a text editor macro to dump all kinds of printk's |
| 23:43.50 | GPSFan | ;>) |
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