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| 00:12.15 | florian | good night |
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| 14:18.26 | damunix | anyone already try to use the ds1672 rtc device ? |
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| 14:19.22 | damunix | I'm trying to use it, I can read and write on it with userspace program, which write and read with its I²C address |
| 14:19.32 | damunix | but module does not seems to work |
| 14:19.49 | damunix | it does not seems to see it |
| 14:21.04 | damunix | tell me if I'm wrong, but when the module is using i2c_add_driver, the i2c module will find itself the i2c addr isn't it ? |
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| 14:21.56 | prpplague | damunix: only if the i2c device structure has been defined in your mach definition file |
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| 14:22.21 | damunix | hi prpplague |
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| 14:23.04 | prpplague | damunix: hey |
| 14:24.27 | damunix | prpplague: you mean in the platform_device struct ? |
| 14:24.44 | prpplague | damunix: yes |
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| 14:25.55 | damunix | yes it is, and I have a i2c-core: driver [ds1672] registered |
| 14:25.55 | Mirell | Woo. |
| 14:25.55 | Mirell | is setting up his server finally |
| 14:26.06 | damunix | message in my dmesg... |
| 14:27.13 | prpplague | damunix: do you have the address defined in your platform structure? |
| 14:28.48 | damunix | prpplague: excuse me I'm very very new in kernel development, that why I have lots of question :) |
| 14:29.02 | damunix | prpplague: you mean i2c address ? |
| 14:29.23 | prpplague | damunix: correct, some devices need to have the address defined in the platform device struct |
| 14:29.36 | damunix | how can I do this ? |
| 14:30.50 | prpplague | damunix: look at the driver you are using and check to see if it is reading the i2c address from a platform data structure |
| 14:33.55 | damunix | prpplague: the module init function just call i2c_add_driver, with the ID "I2C_DRIVERID_DS1672" |
| 14:34.23 | damunix | which is equal to 81 |
| 14:34.25 | prpplague | damunix: then check the .h file for that driver, i suspect that the address is hardcode defined |
| 14:34.45 | prpplague | damunix: so is the address 81? |
| 14:35.12 | damunix | no the real address is 0x68 |
| 14:36.01 | prpplague | damunix: then i'd suggest making the change |
| 14:37.37 | damunix | prpplague: ok :) |
| 14:56.38 | damunix | prpplague: does not seems to work. in file include/linux/i2c-id.h, we have i2c addr isn't it ? |
| 14:57.30 | chouimat|work | morning |
| 14:57.34 | prpplague | damunix: i did not understand your statement |
| 14:57.36 | prpplague | chouimat|work: hey |
| 14:57.48 | damunix | the Hrm,p ower isn't that new is it? |
| 14:57.48 | damunix | agreed, but it still is lacking any good examples |
| 14:57.57 | damunix | Oo |
| 14:58.04 | damunix | mouse problem sorry :) |
| 14:58.10 | chouimat|work | prpplague: good to see that CE didn't drive you nuts yet |
| 14:58.34 | prpplague | chouimat|work: hehe, i am long past nuts, i'm just plain crazy now |
| 14:58.58 | damunix | prpplague : I said, all #define declared in linux/i2c-id.h are I2C address ? |
| 14:59.08 | chouimat|work | prpplague: I had a rpm that nearly did that yesterday |
| 15:03.48 | damunix | prpplague: no it is not I²C address |
| 15:04.35 | prpplague | damunix: i am sorry, i am still not understanding your question |
| 15:06.54 | damunix | prpplague: do you know what are all values specified in the file : linux/i2c-id.h ? for exemple #define I2C_DRIVERID_DS167281/* Dallas/Maxim DS1672 RTC*/ |
| 15:09.31 | prpplague | damunix: those are the device ID's not the address space |
| 15:09.58 | damunix | prpplague: I see |
| 15:13.07 | prpplague | damunix: post a copy of your mach definition file on http://www.pastebin.ca |
| 15:18.43 | damunix | mach file is the mach-tct_hammer.c |
| 15:18.57 | damunix | of your .22 kernel patch |
| 15:19.56 | prpplague | damunix: why are you using that? 2.6.26 and above should have it's own mach-tct_hammer.c file |
| 15:20.13 | damunix | because I need USB :) |
| 15:20.47 | prpplague | damunix: then add it into the exisitng file don't copy the 2.6.22 there |
| 15:20.50 | prpplague | damunix: you will have problems |
| 15:21.30 | damunix | prpplague: what ?excuse me I don't understand what you said |
| 15:21.47 | prpplague | damunix: do not copy configurations from 2.6.22 to 2.6.28 |
| 15:21.55 | prpplague | damunix: edit the configuration on 2.6.28 |
| 15:22.30 | damunix | prpplague: ? I'm using .22 kernel, because I need to have usb host works |
| 15:22.41 | prpplague | damunix: oh you said you were using 2.6.28 |
| 15:22.53 | damunix | no that was for sd/mmc support, |
| 15:23.23 | prpplague | damunix: ok, then past a copy of your mach-tct_hammer.c file on http://www.pastebin.ca |
| 15:23.59 | damunix | http://pastebin.ca/1328060 |
| 15:25.53 | prpplague | damunix: i see no i2c data defined |
| 15:26.28 | damunix | can you give me an exemple of what you call "I2C data" |
| 15:29.08 | prpplague | damunix: look at the mach-bast.c file |
| 15:33.04 | mnemoc | makes waves toward prpplague |
| 15:33.44 | damunix | prpplague: yes ? |
| 15:34.05 | prpplague | damunix: look at that file for i2c entries |
| 15:36.54 | damunix | prpplague: you mean in kernel .28 ?i2c_board_info bast_i2c_devs[] ? |
| 15:37.08 | damunix | I don't jave it in .22 and seems to be veryt intersting |
| 15:37.08 | prpplague | damunix: no in the .22 kernel |
| 15:37.25 | prpplague | damunix: it should be |
| 15:37.54 | damunix | prpplague: i2c board info is not in my .22 kernel |
| 15:38.23 | prpplague | damunix: the i2c entry in mach-bast.c is |
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| 15:54.52 | prpplague | wonders where cosmic is |
| 16:04.54 | prpplague | bangs head on desk |
| 16:05.12 | prpplague | i can't figure out why my battery driver isn't executing the probe |
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| 16:27.40 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: greetings |
| 16:28.54 | CosmicPenguin | yoyo |
| 16:31.48 | prpplague | darn darn darn |
| 16:31.52 | prpplague | bangs head on desk |
| 16:32.00 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: power supply class problems |
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| 16:35.44 | damunix | prpplague: back to the beginning, what should I see in mach-bast.c ? |
| 16:37.27 | prpplague | static struct s3c2410_platform_i2c amlm5900_i2ccfg = { |
| 16:37.27 | prpplague | .flags= 0, |
| 16:37.27 | prpplague | .slave_addr= 0x10, |
| 16:37.27 | prpplague | .bus_freq= 10*1000, |
| 16:37.27 | prpplague | .max_freq= 10*1000, |
| 16:37.28 | prpplague | }; |
| 16:37.35 | prpplague | thats one example |
| 16:38.24 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: know anything about the power supply class driver? |
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| 16:39.44 | damunix | prpplague: but doesn't it jsut do define speed and addr for the ARM ? |
| 16:40.09 | prpplague | damunix: if you don't define the speed it doesn't configure the i2c interface |
| 16:40.36 | prpplague | damunix: in addition, you need to make sure the gpio's that are being used for i2c are configured as their secondary function |
| 16:40.54 | damunix | prpplague: I can read and write to my I2c in userland |
| 16:41.09 | prpplague | damunix: so what is the problem then? |
| 16:41.09 | damunix | this shouldn't be the problem |
| 16:41.26 | damunix | prpplague : the problem is how to configure I2C device address |
| 16:41.42 | damunix | prpplague: "where" would be a better word |
| 16:41.43 | CosmicPenguin | prpplague: I didn't know there "was" a power supply class driver |
| 16:41.47 | prpplague | damunix: how do you know can read/write from userland if you don't have a device configured? |
| 16:42.07 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: hmm |
| 16:42.42 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: dwmw2 created it for the olpc stuff and its been starting to pick up speed |
| 16:43.59 | damunix | prpplague: want I want : I want to connect a RTC chip (DS1672) on my ARM. I tryed to speak with him in userland, that is ok, I try with the kernel module, that does not work. I have "i2c-core: driver [ds1672] registered" message, but that's all. |
| 16:44.07 | damunix | I suspect that I need to defined the I2C addr somewhere, but I don't know where |
| 16:47.13 | prpplague | takes a look at the ds1672 driver |
| 16:49.06 | prpplague | damunix: you said the address is 0x68 correct? |
| 16:49.22 | damunix | prpplague: yes |
| 16:57.04 | prpplague | damunix: the address is suppose to pass to the probe function call |
| 17:01.41 | prpplague | damunix: http://redmine.skalde.debian.org.tw/repositories/entry/openwrt/trunk/target/linux/generic-2.6/patches-2.6.25/403-ds1672_detect.patch?format=raw |
| 17:01.48 | prpplague | damunix: you need to patch your driver |
| 17:02.22 | damunix | ok :) that why it does not work |
| 17:02.53 | damunix | prpplague: but with newer kernel, I would have to use the static struct i2c_board_info bast_i2c_devs[] __initdata = { |
| 17:02.53 | damunix | { |
| 17:02.53 | damunix | I2C_BOARD_INFO("tlv320aic23", 0x1a), |
| 17:02.53 | damunix | }, { |
| 17:02.53 | damunix | I2C_BOARD_INFO("simtec-pmu", 0x6b), |
| 17:02.55 | damunix | }, { |
| 17:02.57 | damunix | I2C_BOARD_INFO("ch7013", 0x75), |
| 17:02.59 | damunix | }, |
| 17:03.01 | damunix | method ? |
| 17:03.45 | prpplague | damunix: like i said, i don't think i2c_board_info is used in the .22 kernel |
| 17:05.15 | damunix | no, I speak about newer kernel, like .28 |
| 17:14.17 | prpplague | damunix: ok |
| 17:14.38 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: name the top 3 reasons why a device driver would never probe after init? |
| 17:14.39 | damunix | prpplague: that workd, thanks |
| 17:14.48 | prpplague | damunix: good deal |
| 17:15.14 | CosmicPenguin | 1) it really doesn't exist |
| 17:15.23 | CosmicPenguin | 2) you messed up the identifier |
| 17:15.29 | CosmicPenguin | 3) somebody else already owns it |
| 17:21.39 | mnemoc | votes for 3 |
| 17:25.01 | prpplague | hmm, looks like it is more likely to be #1 |
| 17:25.34 | mnemoc | oh |
| 17:45.42 | prpplague | darn |
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| 17:45.51 | prpplague | can't figure out what is wrong with this driver |
| 17:48.50 | CosmicPenguin | btw - if you happen to be looking for a cute wii game, the Amazon game of the day is worth the $10 |
| 17:49.10 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: i never have any money to spend on myself |
| 17:50.02 | CosmicPenguin | http://www.amazon.com/Samba-Amigo-Nintendo-Wii/dp/B000XZZ8C2/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1233856178&sr=8-1 |
| 17:51.40 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: hehe, different tastes make the world go around |
| 17:52.18 | ds2 | morningg |
| 17:52.26 | CosmicPenguin | heh - its sounds stupid, but it is really a lot of fun |
| 17:53.31 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: we have enough mexican crap here as it is |
| 17:53.40 | CosmicPenguin | this is salsa - cuba! |
| 17:54.10 | prpplague | s/mexicon/spanish |
| 17:55.07 | prpplague | argh, three different drivers i've done from scratch for this and none of them will probe |
| 17:55.16 | prpplague | must be missing something |
| 17:57.06 | CosmicPenguin | these are simple platform devices? |
| 17:57.19 | ds2 | prpplague: would you happen to have datasheets for those ~2.5" LCDs I got from you? |
| 17:57.49 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: power supply driver devices |
| 17:58.01 | prpplague | ds2: hmm, i'm trying to remember which 2.5" ones i sent |
| 17:58.04 | CosmicPenguin | platform devices should automagically probe, I thought |
| 17:58.09 | prpplague | ds2: you got model numbers on them |
| 17:58.11 | CosmicPenguin | sounds like printk() time |
| 17:58.20 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: yea adding them now |
| 17:58.36 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: after calling platform_driver_register() i get nothing |
| 17:58.46 | ds2 | prpplague: there is stuff on the ribbon cable but nothing came out off google... letmeget the numbers |
| 17:59.37 | ds2 | prpplague: LTF0456HA6A5 |
| 17:59.41 | CosmicPenguin | prpplague: are sysfs nodes being created, or are you getting nothign? |
| 17:59.53 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: the driver registers with no problems, i just no probe |
| 17:59.59 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: no sysfs nodes |
| 18:00.23 | ds2 | if the driver is not attaching, did you check to make sure it is defined in your board file? |
| 18:01.08 | CosmicPenguin | the OLPC stuff would have probably triggered on a OFW or PCI define |
| 18:01.12 | prpplague | ds2: yea, i think that is where the problem is, it is suppose to be defined as part of the pda_power driver, but it looks to not be doing what it is suppose to |
| 18:01.13 | CosmicPenguin | maybe its expecting that |
| 18:01.41 | ds2 | the name needs to be in 2 places...board and the driver |
| 18:01.45 | ds2 | no match, no go |
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| 18:06.56 | prpplague | ds2: yea i know, but this is different, it is two layered compared to other class drivers |
| 18:11.17 | ds2 | Oh doh |
| 18:12.35 | prpplague | the device pda_power is registered and probed, then the battery driver is registered, but never probed |
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| 18:14.10 | ds2 | I'd still think the battery needs to be specified in the board file |
| 18:16.12 | prpplague | ds2: see arch/arm/mach-pxa/mioa701.c |
| 18:16.18 | prpplague | ds2: duplicating that exactly |
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| 18:16.27 | ds2 | top of K-O? |
| 18:17.47 | ds2 | let me find a git browser.... not ready to git pull on my tree just yet |
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| 18:19.56 | ds2 | Hmmmm |
| 18:21.06 | prpplague | does some more tests |
| 18:23.06 | prpplague | ho ho hum |
| 18:23.12 | prpplague | is grumpy today |
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| 18:30.29 | Mirell | pats prpplague |
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| 18:34.20 | prpplague | looks like some of the pdata might be getting lost |
| 18:42.24 | ds2 | bad casts some where along the line? |
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| 18:44.19 | prpplague | wtf is going on here |
| 18:44.29 | prpplague | bangs head on desk |
| 18:46.37 | mnemoc | :( |
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| 18:50.00 | prpplague | tries again |
| 18:50.29 | florian | re |
| 18:55.18 | prpplague | flavioribeiro: hey bud |
| 18:55.23 | prpplague | florian: hey bud |
| 18:55.27 | flavioribeiro | ups |
| 18:55.28 | flavioribeiro | hehe |
| 18:55.29 | flavioribeiro | :D |
| 18:55.40 | prpplague | flavioribeiro: hehe, nick completion, hehe |
| 18:55.46 | prpplague | florian: whats cookin? |
| 18:58.33 | florian | should prepare some things for FOSDEM |
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| 19:08.46 | prpplague | lordy never had so much trouble registering a driver |
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| 19:39.42 | prpplague | hmm, i think there is some dependecy that isn't getting enabled |
| 19:41.08 | prpplague | argh still no probing |
| 19:41.44 | ds2 | checked for typos in the name? each name used I think appears in sysfs |
| 19:43.58 | florian | prpplague: what kind of driver? |
| 19:44.29 | prpplague | ds2: yea, been through it like 5 times, but one more time couldn't hurt |
| 19:44.41 | prpplague | florian: power supply class driver |
| 19:45.16 | ds2 | is the init getting called? |
| 19:45.43 | florian | prpplague: I remember it wasn't hat easy with my latest device too... but the solution was trivial |
| 19:47.40 | prpplague | florian: do tell? |
| 19:48.39 | prpplague | florian: have you got some same code? |
| 19:54.17 | florian | prpplague: do you have the power supplicants defined in the device file? |
| 19:55.34 | prpplague | flavioribeiro: yea i have the supplicant define as "M8050_battery" |
| 19:55.51 | florian | prpplague: mach-pxa/magican.c is a good example. |
| 19:55.57 | flavioribeiro | urgh, bad tab |
| 19:56.18 | florian | :-) |
| 19:57.04 | prpplague | florian: yea that is one i've been looking at as well as the mioa701 |
| 19:57.09 | florian | prpplague: CONFIG_PDA_POWER needs to be set (or something similar if you wrote your own) |
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| 19:58.38 | prpplague | florian: hmm, i've been enabling PDA_POWER, i wonder if that is causing the problem |
| 19:58.49 | prpplague | flavioribeiro: i've duplicated the wm97xx driver |
| 19:59.02 | flavioribeiro | urgh, bad tab (double hit combo) |
| 19:59.15 | prpplague | hehe |
| 20:00.23 | prpplague | florian: from what i can tell, you normally use the pda_power with the wm97xx driver |
| 20:04.19 | prpplague | i may just give up and leave the existing hacked driver in place |
| 20:07.53 | prpplague | the olpc battery doesn't appear to use the pda_power, and it registers it's on device rather than a driver |
| 20:12.45 | prpplague | florian: is there any thing else that has to be turned on? |
| 20:15.05 | prpplague | darn darn darn |
| 20:21.33 | kergoth | meh |
| 20:23.49 | florian | prpplague: POWER_SUPPLY of course |
| 20:24.10 | prpplague | florian: yea that is assumed |
| 20:24.30 | florian | prpplague: and you need to register both power supply and battery as devices. |
| 20:26.13 | prpplague | florian: hmm, i'm only seeing reference to power_supply_register() |
| 20:26.56 | Mirell | Hmm.. |
| 20:27.45 | prpplague | florian: that may be the issue |
| 20:29.50 | prpplague | florian: yea thats it |
| 20:30.09 | prpplague | florian: the driver i used for an example register the battery in another driver |
| 20:30.50 | florian | prpplague: yes that's the case for magican iirc |
| 20:31.58 | prpplague | florian: i need to use the olpc-battery as my base |
| 20:32.12 | prpplague | florian: question is, do i still need the pda_power as well |
| 20:32.56 | prpplague | florian: the pda_power is mainly for determining the status of the power input, i.e. AC, USB, or battery, right? |
| 20:35.15 | florian | prpplague: yes right... i guess that's what you want to use. |
| 20:41.13 | prpplague | florian: yea this makes sense now |
| 20:44.21 | prpplague | florian: yea looks better now |
| 20:50.55 | florian | prpplague: very good |
| 20:51.07 | florian | prpplague: it took me some time to get that right too |
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| 22:09.41 | prpplague | ho ho hum |
| 22:09.44 | prpplague | is it friday yet? |
| 22:10.27 | g1powermac_PB | not yet |
| 22:10.43 | g1powermac_PB | but guess what? I might own a house/farm in about 6 weeks. . . |
| 22:10.46 | Mirell | Will be shortly.. |
| 22:11.07 | Mirell | Farming meerkats? |
| 22:11.43 | g1powermac_PB | has been pre-qualified for an FHA loan with renovation package and found a nice fixer upper on 10 acres of land in the country |
| 22:12.27 | g1powermac_PB | its nice to actually get somewhere after months of searching and deliberating |
| 22:13.39 | g1powermac_PB | Mirell: no, actually, my ultimate goal is grow all the food I eat |
| 22:14.02 | g1powermac_PB | plus other necessities, like lumber and such |
| 22:14.09 | CosmicPenguin | Thats tough to do these days with the whole "winter" and "lack of game" thing |
| 22:14.26 | g1powermac_PB | eventually to go completely off the grid |
| 22:14.33 | prpplague | g1powermac_PB: is that suppose to be a good? |
| 22:14.52 | g1powermac_PB | CosmicPenguin: its called food storage techniques like jarring and building a root cellar |
| 22:15.06 | prpplague | hates owning a house |
| 22:15.34 | CosmicPenguin | Just wait until the gulf stream shuts down |
| 22:15.39 | CosmicPenguin | then we'll all be in the soup |
| 22:15.58 | g1powermac_PB | personally, I love being able to change and alter my house without asking permission from landlords |
| 22:16.00 | CosmicPenguin | I hope its butternut squash soup though - that is delicious |
| 22:16.07 | g1powermac_PB | mmm |
| 22:16.22 | g1powermac_PB | yea, if the gulf stream shuts down, we're all pretty screwed |
| 22:17.01 | prpplague | morton seems busy on the lists today |
| 22:17.59 | g1powermac_PB | of course when fixing up the house and setting up the gardens I'll be wiring it all up for complete autonomous control ;-) |
| 22:18.46 | g1powermac_PB | prpplague: I may need some of those hammer boards when the time comes :-) |
| 22:19.01 | CosmicPenguin | Sounds like an actual hammer will be required too |
| 22:19.24 | g1powermac_PB | CosmicPenguin: heh, what type? I got quite a few already ;-) |
| 22:20.26 | CosmicPenguin | I dunno - i should be concentrating on what I am doing |
| 22:20.34 | CosmicPenguin | but I'm wasting time for no good reason |
| 22:26.53 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: btw, how is you new child process doing? you getting into the swing of things? |
| 22:27.05 | CosmicPenguin | yeah |
| 22:27.13 | CosmicPenguin | mostly |
| 22:31.25 | prpplague | wonders if "land of the lost" series is available on DVD |
| 22:32.33 | prpplague | the documentation for the spi , ASoC, regulator, and power-supply stuff is extremely lacking |
| 22:39.59 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: totally surprised that microsoft is going to let danger.com put netBSD on the next gen sidekicks |
| 22:40.17 | CosmicPenguin | I don't know why you would be surprised |
| 22:40.30 | CosmicPenguin | it seems a bit of a fools errand to me - Linux is struggling, and netBSD isn't nearly as embedded as Linux |
| 22:40.52 | CosmicPenguin | which is sort of like saying that a yugo isn't nearly as a sports car as a Geo |
| 22:41.28 | CosmicPenguin | but hey - let em at it |
| 22:43.43 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: indeed, just that when MS purchased danger, i totally figured that the new overlords would mandate MS os |
| 22:44.25 | ds2 | hey! yugo's is a great sports car... you just need to be in the right sport... I am sure it does as well if not better then the geo going down hill on a 100% grade }:-) |
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| 22:46.35 | CosmicPenguin | prpplague: I think thats a common OSS mistruth that they like to spread |
| 22:46.44 | CosmicPenguin | I think the reality is that Microsoft uses what they think will make them money |
| 22:46.56 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: yea i'm finding that so these days |
| 22:47.22 | CosmicPenguin | The problem is that OSS is a frame of mind - a mission of sorts |
| 22:47.32 | CosmicPenguin | and we like to think that the competition also thinks the same way |
| 22:47.49 | CosmicPenguin | we want Linux on everything, they want Windows on everything - thats an easy dicotomy to imagine |
| 22:48.15 | CosmicPenguin | Its no fun otherwise |
| 22:48.40 | prpplague | indeed |
| 22:48.44 | prpplague | well shooot |
| 22:48.54 | prpplague | don't you hate it when you sneeze on your keyboard |
| 22:49.38 | prpplague | cleans his keyboard with a disinfectant wipe |
| 22:50.32 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: left hand beers have gone up another $1.50 |
| 22:51.22 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: $26.25 for a sixpack |
| 22:51.28 | CosmicPenguin | times are tough everywhere |
| 22:51.50 | prpplague | wonders if lefthand knows how much they are selling the beer for |
| 22:51.58 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: how much is it there for a sixpack? |
| 22:52.18 | CosmicPenguin | I can get a growler of lefthand from the brewery for $13 + tax |
| 22:52.23 | prpplague | jeeze |
| 22:52.45 | prpplague | the beer would be the only thing that i'd move to CO for |
| 22:56.42 | CosmicPenguin | There is much to love in the intermoutain west |
| 23:01.21 | ds2 | prpplague: did the LCD number I mentioned earlier narrowed down which LCD? |
| 23:01.32 | prpplague | ds2: oh sorry got caught up |
| 23:01.38 | prpplague | scrolls back |
| 23:02.01 | ds2 | need it again? |
| 23:02.17 | ds2 | I figured the PM battery stuff kept you busy |
| 23:02.27 | prpplague | ds2: checking my document database now |
| 23:05.26 | prpplague | ds2: yep one sec, let me see, i think i have your email addy somewhere |
| 23:14.24 | prpplague | ds2: i can't find your email add |
| 23:14.29 | prpplague | ds2: /msg me |
| 23:18.22 | prpplague | ds2: you've got spam |
| 23:22.55 | ds2 | prpplague: got it, thanks. |
| 23:22.59 | prpplague | ds2: np |
| 23:23.06 | prpplague | heads home |
| 23:52.51 | solar | ds2: played with this yet by chance? http://cgit.pingu.fi/xf86-video-omapfb/ |
| 23:57.50 | joe_bleau | MonMotha: ping |