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| 00:11.15 | Boulet | hello |
| 00:11.53 | Boulet | i have inherited a BDI2000 JTAG debugger and i would like to get your opinion on what debugger you would use with something like that |
| 00:12.06 | Boulet | i heard of OpenOCD, is it any good ? does it work in conjunction with GDB ? |
| 00:16.52 | MonMotha | OpenOCD is what just about everybody uses |
| 00:17.04 | MonMotha | I do believe it supports the BDI2000, and yes, it works with GDB |
| 00:18.31 | MonMotha | at least for ARM |
| 00:18.37 | MonMotha | for other architectures, other stuff sometimes gets used |
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| 00:25.39 | Boulet | MonMotha, i don't see a configuration file for BDI2000 in OpenOCD intrafce's dir |
| 00:27.59 | Boulet | BDI2000 is connected to the host via ethernet mmmh |
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| 00:30.34 | MonMotha | Boulet: most people using OpenOCD are using much cheaper (and not nearly as good, of course) interfaces based on either bit-banging it off the parallel port or the FTDI serial accelerator USB thingies, so there may not be an example config for the BDI2000, but I believe it is supported |
| 00:32.11 | ds2 | doesn't the BDI2000 have an internal GDB server? |
| 00:33.14 | MonMotha | I don't know. Maybe. |
| 00:33.15 | MonMotha | I don't have one |
| 00:33.41 | ds2 | touched one a long time ago and that's what I recall |
| 00:33.54 | MonMotha | well, that would be handy, certainly |
| 00:35.48 | Boulet | ds2, i think you are right |
| 00:36.15 | Boulet | ds2, so i would not use OpenOCD with BDI2000 then ? |
| 00:36.23 | ds2 | donations of functional BDI2000 and BDI3000 graciously accepted ;) |
| 00:36.42 | Boulet | those are damn expensive |
| 00:36.42 | ds2 | Boulet: not much of a reason to do so unless you want to use it in a manner that exceeds your current license :D |
| 00:37.08 | ds2 | Lauterbach's will be accepted in lieu of a BDI[23]000 ;) |
| 00:37.22 | Boulet | i am basically to set up eclipse with this BDI2000 but it looks like the manufacturer also sell "bdiGDB" i don't want to purchase this ! |
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| 01:15.06 | joe_bleau | MonMotha: ping |
| 01:23.05 | MonMotha | joe_bleau: pong |
| 01:24.12 | joe_bleau | Still looking for work? |
| 01:24.31 | joe_bleau | One of the more interesting dudes on usenet (sci.electronic.design) is looking for a embedded programmer. |
| 01:24.47 | joe_bleau | Not sure if telecommuting would be an option. |
| 01:25.17 | joe_bleau | Here's a message where's he griping about the response he's received so far: http://groups.google.com/group/sci.electronics.basics/msg/05fff8ff132c699d |
| 01:25.24 | MonMotha | definitely still looking for work, yes |
| 01:25.34 | joe_bleau | And I found the CL posts he refers to: http://sfbay.craigslist.org/sfc/sof/1025081631.html |
| 01:25.51 | joe_bleau | And their profile: http://www.highlandtechnology.com/Pages/copro2.html |
| 01:26.17 | joe_bleau | If I was good enough, I'd drop him a line myself. |
| 01:28.11 | MonMotha | unfortunately, programming is not my strong point. I do it because I have to. Though I'll say I do share his beliefs on the "coding" aspect. |
| 01:29.09 | joe_bleau | He's always on the lookout for strong hardware guys, too. Especially people who know analog. |
| 01:29.12 | MonMotha | my wrappers, where required, are just as thick as they need to be to get the job done. I bang on bare metal if I can, and I like human-readable documentation. |
| 01:30.06 | joe_bleau | JL loves to brag about migrating software into FPGA functions. |
| 01:30.35 | MonMotha | if it's reasonable, why not? |
| 01:31.25 | MonMotha | one of my favorite system architectures is a minimal processor to run the basic "algorithm" with all the primitives hardware accelerated. Then you software pipeline to take advantage of the parallelism |
| 01:33.08 | joe_bleau | Anyway, I'm not trying to pimp your or sell the position or recruit or anything. |
| 01:33.22 | MonMotha | well, I'll certainly look at it |
| 01:33.29 | joe_bleau | I have no stake in it at all. Just a neat guy with a nice small company looking for help, and I thought of you. |
| 01:33.45 | MonMotha | I'm not overly interested in moving to cali, though, so if telecommute isn't an option, it's probably no go. I do thank you for the lead, though. |
| 01:33.54 | MonMotha | I take it no updates on your project as of now? |
| 01:34.10 | joe_bleau | Nope. We'll make some prelim decisions next week. |
| 01:34.15 | MonMotha | ok |
| 01:34.35 | joe_bleau | This guy does use outside contractors on occasion, so TC might not be completely out. Hard to say. |
| 01:34.39 | MonMotha | I've been doing some design work in my head as I think stuff up, so if you go with it, I should be able to get moving fairly quickly. |
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| 16:36.23 | Madsy | Silent here today :-) |
| 16:36.36 | mnemoc | :) |
| 16:39.32 | florian | We all suffer from too short days :) |
| 16:44.28 | Madsy | Yeah. Vote for 48 hour days. |
| 16:44.41 | Madsy | Perhaps we could slow down the earth's rotation somehow. |
| 16:45.28 | mnemoc | yes, please |
| 16:47.42 | Madsy | 12 hours of work, 8 hours sleep, 20 hours free time, and 8 hours of sleep again ;) |
| 16:48.05 | mnemoc | 20h or what? |
| 16:48.09 | mnemoc | of* |
| 16:48.18 | Madsy | spare time? :) |
| 16:48.59 | mnemoc | i would be happy with 10 of sleeping and 4 of spare time :) |
| 16:49.21 | Madsy | You work long days? |
| 16:50.03 | Madsy | s/days/shifts |
| 16:50.40 | mnemoc | i work per project, 15h/d 6d/w :( |
| 16:50.52 | Madsy | Ouch. |
| 16:51.18 | mnemoc | the 7th day I mostly sleep |
| 16:51.46 | Madsy | I thought my 12 hour shifts during summer were bad enough :) |
| 16:52.01 | mnemoc | =) |
| 16:57.24 | mnemoc | I just wish to be payed per month and not per milestone :| .... and have right for vacations |
| 17:00.46 | florian | mnemoc: well if the payment is worth the effort... |
| 17:00.53 | CosmicPenguin | The Rocky Mountain News had their last edition today - thats a huge deal - they were 55 days short of their 150th anniversary |
| 17:07.31 | mnemoc | florian: these days it's more about not loosing the money income :\ |
| 17:07.51 | florian | mnemoc: nasty... |
| 17:10.58 | CosmicPenguin | http://www.saleae.com/logic/ |
| 17:11.02 | CosmicPenguin | What do you ees think about that? |
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| 17:21.26 | florian | CosmicPenguin: http://www.pctestinstruments.com/index.htm |
| 17:22.03 | florian | That's the one I use... not as good as a dedicated device but way cheaper and the software is pretty good. |
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| 19:36.28 | keesj | CosmicPenguin: I have one |
| 19:39.43 | keesj | I think that for that price it's good. The thing I understand better now is that your analyzer sample rate need to be much higher then the rate of what you sample(A colleage said the 16 times is very confortable) |
| 19:40.27 | keesj | so it's only really usable on slow "1 or 2" Mhz and therfore really only usable on slow busses |
| 19:42.05 | keesj | That said , I used it for debugging a jtag and it really helped. (Still waiting for some basic linux support) |
| 19:43.56 | keesj | it comes with a nice case |
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| 22:34.22 | ds2 | weaker condition - anyone messed with uClinux? |
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