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| 00:54.13 | perdidopunk | hey, can anyone point me toward a decent tutorial on getting started with gnuarm/arm-gcc and sending programs to an arm board via terminal emulation over usb? i'm trying to do this under linux |
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| 01:01.42 | ds2 | can anyone point me toward a decent tutorial on getting started with 6 cyclinder engines and replacing crack shafts via a remote robotic arm over usb? I am trying to do this under a barrel of grease |
| 01:02.26 | Mirell | Heh |
| 01:03.15 | g1powermac_PB | hehe, sorry, I had to send him here after he asked the same question at ##microcontrollers ;-) |
| 01:04.40 | ds2 | if the sarcasm is lost.... WHAT ARM? WHAT ARE YOU TRYING TO DO?! |
| 01:05.21 | g1powermac_PB | hehe |
| 01:11.50 | Mirell | No worries, he's on #ubuntu-arm now asking. |
| 01:12.13 | ds2 | hahahah |
| 01:12.17 | g1powermac_PB | hah |
| 01:12.28 | Mirell | Well, was, then he left. But anywho. |
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| 01:49.59 | Mirell | Huh. bash 4.0 has been released. |
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| 02:34.36 | landley | Mirell: yes, last week I think. |
| 02:35.06 | landley | It includes a complete copy of gcc, klingon translation of all error messages, and a function to increase the size the binary takes up on disk every time you run it. |
| 02:36.10 | sunrunner20 | what lol |
| 02:42.57 | Mirell | Heh |
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| 05:28.19 | ds2 | otherwise, the old 11AM PDT (9AM CDT) maybe? |
| 05:28.23 | ds2 | bah |
| 05:28.25 | ds2 | wrong channel |
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| 06:27.59 | ZeZu | bios vid after all |
| 06:28.01 | ZeZu | http://www.gp32x.com/board/index.php?showtopic=47027 |
| 06:28.29 | ZeZu | since its reasonable, more to come next week (if anyone is interested) |
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| 09:28.28 | methril|work | yo |
| 09:51.34 | florian | good morning |
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| 11:55.36 | keesj | how far is pandora? shipping? |
| 11:57.44 | keesj | hmm not yet :9 |
| 12:01.11 | keesj | but already the next greap omap3 based thing is anounced http://www.alwaysinnovating.com/home/index.htm |
| 12:01.33 | florian | oooold ;) |
| 12:01.51 | florian | But yet, that's an interesting piece of hardware. |
| 12:01.58 | florian | s/yet/yes |
| 12:04.28 | keesj | does one know how the screen and SoC are connected? is it a usb monitor? |
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| 15:23.48 | kergoth | morning |
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| 15:38.11 | florian | hi kergoth |
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| 19:27.53 | armin76 | http://dev.gentoo.org/~armin76/arm/buildtimes.xml |
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| 19:29.36 | gustavoz | armin76: i'd say the usb stick is killing your write speeds, which happen a lot when building |
| 19:30.35 | armin76 | gustavoz: could be, but i don't have an usb hdd, so :) |
| 19:30.55 | gustavoz | armin76: try with nfs |
| 19:31.26 | armin76 | you really think that nfs is faster? |
| 19:31.56 | gustavoz | armin76: that would depend on how good/bad the usb host controller/network controller are |
| 19:31.57 | MonMotha | wouldn't surprise me if it was |
| 19:32.27 | gustavoz | unless you've got a fast usb stick it's probably faster |
| 19:32.30 | armin76 | hrm, wel, i'll try :) |
| 19:32.31 | MonMotha | most USB sticks are slow (Especially if you're only getting Full Speed USB) on writes, and NFS isn't that bad with a good network |
| 19:32.40 | armin76 | well* |
| 19:32.57 | MonMotha | USB also has a fair bit of CPU overhead that ethernet networks tend to avoid, and of course you want all the CPU time you can get for a build |
| 19:33.02 | gustavoz | and yeah you may be doing usb as 12mb/s which kills it |
| 19:33.07 | gustavoz | s/as/at/ |
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| 20:12.28 | MonMotha | 12 millibits per second? Wow, that's slow. |
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| 20:13.06 | MonMotha | also 666 seconds to transfer a byte. A sign, perhaps? |
| 20:14.41 | landley | No prpplague today, it seems. |
| 20:14.45 | gustavoz | Mb/s :P |
| 20:17.17 | CosmicPenguin | prpplague is taking a netbreak |
| 20:17.44 | ds2 | who's the current channel care taker now? |
| 20:22.20 | landley | ds2: dunno. I seem to have access if something was needed. |
| 20:25.15 | MonMotha | I suspect prp has been wrapping things up and/or job hunting. He's been absent for a while |
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| 20:25.57 | kergoth | florian, CosmicPenguin: a bit ot, but any idea if anyone is currently working on revamping bb.data? |
| 20:26.22 | florian | re |
| 20:26.52 | florian | kergoth: no idea... but there are not that many candidates :) |
| 20:26.56 | landley | What's bb.data? |
| 20:27.18 | kergoth | it's the datastore for openembedded's tool, bitbake. written in python |
| 20:27.45 | kergoth | does variable expansions like shell, but it doesn't track variable references, so dirty state isn't retained, so it ends up re-expanding shit, or having to do it all at once. it makes me sad |
| 20:43.00 | landley | Ah, I've heard of bitbake. Never used it, though. |
| 21:04.32 | MonMotha | mmm...bakin' bits |
| 21:12.09 | ds2 | Mmmm burnt bits |
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| 21:15.41 | CosmicPenguin | kergoth: heh yeah, either you or RP will be hacking on bb.data - i don't think anybody else is l33t enough |
| 21:15.47 | kergoth | heh, was afraid of that |
| 21:15.59 | kergoth | its not that terrible really, RP's cooker stuff is scarier |
| 21:16.19 | kergoth | also, hurray butterscotch pudding |
| 21:19.16 | kergoth | CosmicPenguin: i've been trying to capture a signature of the metadata of a recipe and use that for the packaged staging path, rather than only putting PN/PV/PR there.. but the implementation is incredibly brittle, since lacking var ref racking, its hard to exclude things like TIME and DATETIME from the signature... basically i'm starting to think, again, about how to capture the input and output of operations.... these variables and those files fed into thi |
| 21:19.26 | kergoth | shrugs, was just curious if anyone else messed with it, guess not |
| 21:20.57 | ds2 | Hmmm expresspcb does not seem to be giving tracking numbers for their boards so it appears to be a blind process |
| 21:30.39 | MonMotha | ds2: a lot of places are like that |
| 21:30.43 | MonMotha | it's kinda annoying |
| 21:30.51 | MonMotha | one of the many reasons I like Advanced Circuits |
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