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| 00:30.28 | ds2 | yells out and listens to the echos |
| 00:33.11 | solar | echo back it's hot again. |
| 00:33.55 | ds2 | too hot to be creative :( |
| 00:33.57 | flyback | removed /ame so he can't annoy solar, etc anymore |
| 00:34.00 | ds2 | waiting for night fall |
| 00:34.09 | flyback | i'm waiting for death |
| 00:34.10 | flyback | can't wait |
| 00:34.18 | flyback | mind is shutting down anyways |
| 00:34.35 | flyback | mabye I will get a project or 2 done if I really concentrate till I am shaking |
| 00:34.45 | solar | flyback: You are off to a good start |
| 00:34.53 | flyback | but I doubt it, need what's left to finish a internet scrapbook/archive of my life online and that's about it |
| 00:34.55 | flyback | how so |
| 00:35.23 | flyback | I can barely count anymore things such as pins on a chip |
| 00:35.27 | flyback | even if I have my finger on the chip |
| 00:35.29 | flyback | I can't hold my place |
| 00:35.34 | flyback | working memory is full of worms or something |
| 00:37.17 | solar | ds2: creative = beagle.devel for you mostly these days? |
| 00:37.44 | flyback | solar I don't understand your comment |
| 00:38.53 | ds2 | solar: nope. |
| 00:39.05 | ds2 | got a bazillion projects in the pipeline |
| 00:39.30 | ds2 | like building a modern version of the Rex6000 |
| 00:40.11 | solar | color/touchpad more or less? |
| 00:42.02 | ds2 | just touch |
| 00:42.28 | ds2 | don't think I can find a thin enough display for color |
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| 00:42.49 | ds2 | nor does it stand a chance at running off a CR2032 |
| 00:43.02 | flyback | what about a passive color with a msp430 |
| 00:43.12 | flyback | actually |
| 00:43.14 | flyback | hang on |
| 00:43.47 | ds2 | I doubt if any conventional (non static) LCD would survive for a decent time w/a CR2032 |
| 00:43.54 | ds2 | or even 2 of them |
| 00:45.29 | flyback | did you check http://www.sparkfun.com/commerce/categories.php?c=76 |
| 00:45.35 | flyback | I doubt any will run on cr232 |
| 00:45.39 | flyback | mabye a cell phone one |
| 00:46.22 | ds2 | none of them are thinner then a PCMCIA Type II card |
| 00:46.56 | flyback | what about |
| 00:46.56 | flyback | http://www.sparkfun.com/commerce/product_info.php?products_id=8843 |
| 00:47.36 | flyback | or http://www.sparkfun.com/commerce/product_info.php?products_id=8844 |
| 00:49.04 | ds2 | too small viewing area |
| 00:49.15 | ds2 | those are less then 1/2 of the original Rex |
| 00:49.17 | solar | The ATtiny43U might be neat for use in such a device |
| 00:50.14 | ds2 | I like the 0.7V input spec |
| 00:50.25 | ds2 | was leaning on a 430 like what they ahve on the ez430 kits |
| 00:51.14 | ds2 | just need to see if that AVR will play nice with a simple zigbee setup |
| 00:51.31 | ds2 | the 430's seem to pair nicely with the chipcon stuff |
| 00:52.03 | flyback | prpplague been around lately? |
| 00:54.18 | ds2 | actually the board in the ez430RF seems like everything I need except for the 0.7V support |
| 00:58.43 | ds2 | notes - Ikea hot dogs are more agreeable then Costco hot dogs |
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| 02:10.02 | Mirell | Ikea Swedish Meatballs are better though. |
| 02:14.11 | ds2 | but are they a $1 or less item? |
| 02:34.55 | Mirell | They are -$3 less. |
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| 02:40.04 | flyback | you suck snort |
| 02:40.21 | flyback | bites JoeLamer |
| 02:40.23 | Mirell | Weren't you banned from this channel... |
| 02:40.31 | flyback | uh calm down he's a friend of mine :) |
| 02:47.21 | solar | ya |
| 03:02.34 | ds2 | the other issue with Ikea is that it is a 30-40 mile drive vs a 10mile drive |
| 03:03.34 | solar | not worth it for $1 worth of a half of a meatball |
| 03:05.49 | ds2 | *nod* |
| 03:06.56 | ds2 | there has got to be a <$1 thing that I can use to mount solar cells onto |
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| 03:08.20 | solar | how big are the cells? |
| 03:08.27 | solar | sorry about that misfire. |
| 03:09.25 | ds2 | about 3" |
| 03:09.42 | ds2 | now that I got a few moments, getting the cells mounted would be useful |
| 03:12.46 | solar | 3x3 from DX @ ~4.2v ? |
| 03:13.11 | ds2 | no, these are round cells from goldmine-elec.com |
| 03:13.19 | ds2 | 0.6V, I think 500mA each |
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| 21:21.22 | flyback | hey |
| 21:21.27 | flyback | did something happen to prpplague |
| 21:25.51 | solar | don't worry. I'm sure he will be back to ban you soon :p |
| 21:26.07 | solar | He is ok/fine health etc however. |
| 21:28.35 | ds2 | heh |
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| 21:31.41 | landley | Still no prpplague. |
| 21:31.44 | landley | There's a theme here. |
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| 21:33.25 | flyback | solar I ain't here to cause problems |
| 21:33.32 | flyback | I even disabled /ame and /amsg in xchat so I can't forget |
| 21:33.36 | flyback | and broadcast stupid shit here |
| 21:35.40 | Mirell | Hmm.. |
| 21:35.50 | Mirell | You know, flyback, |
| 21:36.03 | flyback | if you think I am keeping him away |
| 21:36.06 | flyback | i'll leave |
| 21:36.09 | Mirell | Since you are still *technically* banned, and this is prpplague's channel.. |
| 21:36.14 | flyback | i just trying to find out a few things about wiggler |
| 21:36.23 | flyback | ok i'll go then |
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| 21:36.31 | Crofton | flyback, stay on topic and you'll be ok .... |
| 21:36.45 | Crofton | heh |
| 21:36.48 | ds2 | so it begins... the demise of technology |
| 21:36.54 | Mirell | Heh. |
| 21:37.19 | MonMotha | ds2: I thought that happened a long time ago |
| 21:37.37 | Mirell | It's not that he doesn't stay on topic, I ramble about a bunch of stuff not on topic, so do others, it's just off-topic in an annoying way. >.< |
| 21:37.42 | ds2 | MonMotha: still alive! =) |
| 21:37.51 | MonMotha | I see |
| 21:38.03 | ds2 | MonMotha: well, this is more like the event... sort of like when skynet came to be |
| 21:38.09 | MonMotha | I am attempting to find reasonably priced housing in Chicagoland. It's proving to be a nearly impossible task. |
| 21:38.23 | ds2 | reasonable price is doable |
| 21:38.24 | Mirell | ds2: Every time I see "So it begins", the Vorlon voice says it in my head. |
| 21:38.33 | ds2 | reasonable price AND safe is another matter |
| 21:38.44 | ds2 | Mirell: B5? |
| 21:38.49 | Mirell | ds2: Yeppers |
| 21:38.52 | MonMotha | yeah, add those on to "walk out basement" or "enough land to build a large outbuilding" and you get "no can do" |
| 21:38.54 | Mirell | "And so it begins..." |
| 21:39.07 | ds2 | MonMotha: where abouts? in the city, north side/ |
| 21:39.40 | MonMotha | ds2: north or northwest |
| 21:40.04 | ds2 | well, staying out of king daley's domain is strongly recommended |
| 21:40.20 | MonMotha | well, I'd decidedly be out of the city limits |
| 21:40.22 | MonMotha | and yes, I agree |
| 21:40.30 | MonMotha | I thought he was emperor, now |
| 21:40.32 | ds2 | ah good for you |
| 21:40.50 | ds2 | looking to purchase or just rent? |
| 21:41.21 | MonMotha | I was looking up in the Crystal Lake/Lake Zurich/Wheeling area |
| 21:41.31 | MonMotha | well, finding a place like what I need for rent is nearly impossible |
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| 21:41.56 | ds2 | oh |
| 21:42.13 | MonMotha | all the video games basically demand either a walk-out basement or large outbuilding |
| 21:42.22 | MonMotha | residential structures just aren't built to handle them |
| 21:42.26 | ds2 | hmm those are further away from the city... think those all RTA serviced areas |
| 21:42.26 | MonMotha | so you need a concrete pad |
| 21:42.47 | MonMotha | Crystal Lake has a metra stop that is on a line with a stop like 3 blocks from the potential office |
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| 21:43.06 | ds2 | basement should be common; if you can rent a crane to drop it into the basement (the machinist folks have similar issues) |
| 21:43.20 | MonMotha | ds2: yes, hence the requirement for a walk-out basement |
| 21:43.32 | MonMotha | those are a bit rarer |
| 21:43.35 | ds2 | don't think walkout basements are that common |
| 21:43.40 | MonMotha | it took me like 4 months to find one here |
| 21:43.58 | ds2 | best you can do is a seperate entrance...maybe look for a tornado shelter? |
| 21:44.10 | MonMotha | these things are almost impossible to get down stairs |
| 21:44.21 | ds2 | ramp + come along to lower it? |
| 21:44.24 | MonMotha | they often won't FIT down the staircase |
| 21:44.30 | ds2 | yikes |
| 21:44.56 | MonMotha | I currently have one that won't fit through my basement slider door because the stationary side is not removable (looks like it should be, but it isn't) |
| 21:45.09 | MonMotha | I had planned on putting in a french door, but that's not going to happen obviously |
| 21:45.14 | ds2 | what about going further out in th farmland? |
| 21:45.22 | ds2 | prehaps there is a barn you can refit? |
| 21:45.23 | MonMotha | I really do not want more than a 40 minute commute |
| 21:45.35 | MonMotha | I had a 5 minute commute, and let me tell you that was awesome |
| 21:45.54 | MonMotha | opportunity cost alone on a half-hour commute can easily end up >$5000 |
| 21:45.58 | MonMotha | (annualized) |
| 21:46.12 | ds2 | I don't think I'd mind a 40minute - 1hr commute for a train as along as remote work is allowed |
| 21:46.25 | MonMotha | this place doesn't really do remote work |
| 21:46.32 | ds2 | blah |
| 21:46.54 | ds2 | what about a semicommericial loft type setup? there are a lot of old factories being converted |
| 21:47.09 | MonMotha | too much noise for a multi-family residence |
| 21:47.13 | ds2 | your stuff cannot be heavier then an industrial lathe/mill/etc |
| 21:47.20 | MonMotha | the whole point of these games is that they're loud :) |
| 21:47.36 | ds2 | well...proper sound proofing... |
| 21:47.49 | MonMotha | I actually had one in my apartment before (took a whole bedroom for one game), and I had to be careful to keep the volume down and not play too late |
| 21:47.56 | MonMotha | and I very much like being able to play at 2AM |
| 21:48.09 | ds2 | keep the current place as a rental and....? |
| 21:48.17 | MonMotha | mortgage terms don't let me rent it out |
| 21:48.33 | MonMotha | I had debated keeping it and finding a tiny place near work, but I have no real desire to stay where I am if there's no job |
| 21:48.49 | MonMotha | it's like 4 hours from Chicago to here, unfortunately |
| 21:48.58 | MonMotha | not really doable for a "every weekend" type thing |
| 21:49.31 | MonMotha | I found a guy who's offered to store all the games for free (provided he gets to play them), but what's the point if I can't play them? |
| 21:49.42 | ds2 | If your area iswhat I think it is, it is a great place |
| 21:50.05 | MonMotha | it's not bad. City is kinda dull |
| 21:50.15 | MonMotha | I'm OK with dull, but it's also kinda dumb |
| 21:50.29 | MonMotha | voted "dumbest city in America" (by some bogus criteria) actually |
| 21:50.48 | landley | MonMotha: which city? |
| 21:50.50 | MonMotha | cost of living is VERY reasonable, though |
| 21:50.54 | MonMotha | landley: Fort Wayne, IN |
| 21:50.54 | ds2 | you are actually in an official city? |
| 21:51.09 | MonMotha | I am in fact within the city limits of Fort Wayne (just barely) |
| 21:51.17 | MonMotha | it's decidedly suburb-ish at this point, though |
| 21:51.36 | MonMotha | the "grid" is gone, for example |
| 21:51.39 | ds2 | ah... I think I'd prefer to be in unincorporated |
| 21:52.25 | MonMotha | http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&source=s_q&hl=en&geocode=&q=fort+wayne,+in&sll=37.0625,-95.677068&sspn=44.204685,74.443359&ie=UTF8&ll=41.160757,-85.124044&spn=0.041227,0.072699&t=h&z=14 |
| 21:52.33 | MonMotha | that's about where I live, without identifying my actual location |
| 21:52.45 | Mirell | STALK MONMOTHA |
| 21:52.54 | MonMotha | heh |
| 21:53.08 | Mirell | Wait, where is that.. |
| 21:53.11 | MonMotha | that doesn't do you much more good than knowing my IP address |
| 21:53.27 | Mirell | Actually, no, I have no desire to go to Indiana. |
| 21:53.30 | Mirell | You're safe for now. |
| 21:53.42 | MonMotha | ds2: I had thought about trying to get some acreage, but you have to get so far out of town to do that |
| 21:53.56 | MonMotha | I would actually kinda prefer to have a barn/outbuilding of sorts, though. Much easier to get stuff in/out |
| 21:54.02 | MonMotha | and I'm perfectly willing to build the thing myself |
| 21:54.10 | MonMotha | I'm a very hands-on person. I enjoy building stuff. |
| 21:54.13 | ds2 | far out is relative |
| 21:54.30 | ds2 | given the spacing of the farms, measuring by miles is deceptive |
| 21:54.54 | MonMotha | well, I speak of "far out" mostly by commute time |
| 21:57.27 | MonMotha | ds2: also, availability of utilities becomes a problem |
| 21:57.38 | MonMotha | I'm already going to have to give up FiOS. Dropping down to 128k would be downright painful. |
| 21:58.21 | ds2 | you plan to be that far out? no normal DSL? |
| 21:58.41 | MonMotha | my experience has been that availability of DSL falls off pretty rapidly |
| 21:59.48 | MonMotha | I guess it might be better on new installations due to better quality lines |
| 21:59.58 | MonMotha | at this point, I don't know why they don't just run fiber to all new installs, though |
| 22:00.46 | MonMotha | nobody seems to be able to compete with FiOS. Every time Comcast raises their highest speed tier slightly, Verizon just bumps their stuff by 25-50% |
| 22:01.04 | ds2 | but you'll be in sbc land, IIRC |
| 22:01.06 | MonMotha | I'm at 30Mbps down/5Mbps up |
| 22:01.10 | MonMotha | yes, I know. And they suck. |
| 22:01.23 | ds2 | 1.5/6is doable |
| 22:01.46 | MonMotha | in the sticks? |
| 22:01.58 | MonMotha | everybody I know with those speeds lives basically in the city or near suburbs |
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| 22:02.17 | MonMotha | once you get out into "open areas", it always seems to drop to 768/128 |
| 22:02.35 | MonMotha | and that's if you're lucky. In many places, all I can find for people is 144k IDSL |
| 22:02.48 | ds2 | IDSL isn't bad |
| 22:02.54 | MonMotha | it's damn slow |
| 22:03.06 | ds2 | but it may be cheaper to do a wireless access |
| 22:03.14 | MonMotha | and incredibly unreliable |
| 22:03.26 | MonMotha | I've never known anybody satisfied with fixed wireless |
| 22:03.48 | MonMotha | I think it's just because all the providers use cheap equipment |
| 22:03.58 | MonMotha | it can certainly be done right, but nobody does |
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| 22:19.43 | calculus | I can't 768 DSL, apparently ATT thinks I live too far away |
| 22:19.53 | calculus | err... I get* 768 |
| 22:20.08 | calculus | even though I am very well in the city |
| 22:26.38 | MonMotha | yeah, DSL availability seems very spotty still |
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