IRC log for #edev on 20090620

00:25.21calculusI initially thought it was the rocket line
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00:43.40solards2: pong
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08:10.07MonMothaok, so somehow Debian managed to make it so that X is unusable without HAL running (no input devices at all)
08:10.15MonMothawhile that's a neat trick, it's also absolutely asinine
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22:06.52prpplagueho ho hum
22:08.29g1powermac_EPCheya prpplague
22:08.35prpplaguehey
22:10.27g1powermac_EPCwonders if he should get a linux capable pda or something to hack around on
22:12.04g1powermac_EPCprpplague, any recommendations on a good pda that can or does run linux?
22:13.38mnemoc8050 :p
22:13.49g1powermac_EPCheh, you know, i was just thinking about that
22:13.55mnemoc=)
22:14.07g1powermac_EPChow much do they run again?
22:15.08prpplagueg1powermac_EPC: you can get a dev edition for $750.00
22:15.09mnemocthat was out of my english level's boundaries
22:15.22g1powermac_EPCahh
22:15.31g1powermac_EPCtoo much for me then :-)
22:15.49prpplagueg1powermac_EPC: it's the cheapest handheld available that has a barcode scanner and runs linux
22:16.26g1powermac_EPCyea, but I'm not looking for one that has a barcode scanner. . .though the inventory stuff for the store would work nicely
22:16.40g1powermac_EPCI just want to play around with a touchscreen device
22:16.48prpplagueg1powermac_EPC: ahh you just want a generic pda for personal device?
22:16.52prpplagueg1powermac_EPC: ahh
22:16.56g1powermac_EPCyea
22:17.00prpplagueg1powermac_EPC: best to get a dev kit instead
22:17.19g1powermac_EPCyea, but not sure what would be the best
22:17.30prpplagueg1powermac_EPC: you just want it for dev?
22:17.35g1powermac_EPCpretty much
22:18.17g1powermac_EPCthough if it has gps, or can add gps to it, it would be even better
22:18.18prpplagueg1powermac_EPC: a littlechips board with lcd run you about $400
22:18.32prpplaguehttp://www.littlechips.com/sbc_main.htm
22:18.45mnemocin that case you have the mini2440 :p
22:19.31g1powermac_EPCI would prefer something that has a case or can be cased
22:20.15prpplagueg1powermac_EPC: thats going to be hard to do, you really don't get the best of both worlds, either it is a dev board, or production device
22:20.24prpplagueg1powermac_EPC: dev board is going to be open faced
22:20.45prpplagueg1powermac_EPC: production device is going to have everything removed that would help with debugging and such
22:21.08MonMothag1powermac_EPC: want my old ipaq? :)
22:23.15g1powermac_EPCprpplague, ahh
22:23.31g1powermac_EPCMonMotha, heh, was thinking about an ipaq
22:23.58mnemocold openmoko device?
22:24.17g1powermac_EPCthat was another option
22:24.20prpplagueg1powermac_EPC: i'll look around at the office monday
22:24.23prpplagueg1powermac_EPC: see what i can find
22:24.36g1powermac_EPCprpplague, oooh, k, thanks
22:24.52prpplagueg1powermac_EPC: i have some old M8050's that aren't production level boards(they have lots of white wire fixes)
22:25.20MonMothaI have an old H3765
22:25.31MonMotha206MHz SA1110, 64MB RAM, 32MB Flash
22:25.40MonMothaI have a CF sleeve for it, too
22:26.17MonMothaall accessories, too, of course
22:26.20MonMothaheck, I have the original box
22:26.28MonMothanew battery installed about 6 months ago
22:26.40g1powermac_EPCprpplague, ooo, cool, thanks
22:27.02g1powermac_EPCMonMotha, hmm
22:28.53g1powermac_EPCMonMotha, lemme see what prpplague can find, if he can't find anything or too expensive, I'll buy your ipaq from ya :-)
22:29.01filefalls over
22:30.45prpplaguefile: ??
22:31.16fileprpplague: greetings!
22:31.23prpplaguefile: greetings
22:31.59filehow goes?
22:32.15prpplaguefile: it's going
22:32.21prpplaguefile: and you?
22:32.50fileprpplague: not bad, enjoying the weekend
22:35.06prpplaguefile: where you working these days?
22:35.17fileprpplague: Digium
22:35.26filehttp://www.digium.com/
22:35.49g1powermac_EPChmmm, digium
22:36.51g1powermac_EPChas played quite a bit with asterisk
22:36.59prpplaguefile: ahh same place as before
22:37.04fileprpplague: yup!
22:37.04prpplaguefile: how is that going?
22:37.09fileg1powermac_EPC: neat :D
22:37.36fileprpplague: pretty good, part of a great team and continuing to enjoy it even after a few years
22:37.44fileprpplague: which makes me happy.
22:37.52g1powermac_EPCfile, I wish I could have kept the pbx box I had made going for our store
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22:38.20g1powermac_EPCexcept we were having horrible echoing issues I think caused by poor analog line conditions coming from at&t
22:38.33fileecho is eeeeevil
22:38.49g1powermac_EPCyea
22:38.58prpplaguefile: ahh dandy
22:39.13fileprpplague: and you are moving somewhere and going to work for someone secret?
22:39.30prpplaguefile: hehe, not as of yet
22:39.46prpplaguefile: still trying to figure out where to go next in my career
22:40.50fileprpplague: ah
22:42.19fileprpplague: obviously you should go into the embedded vxworks career *G*
22:47.35prpplaguefile: totally unhappy at AML now
22:47.47prpplaguefile: hehe, embedded vxworks?
22:51.11file:D I couldn't resist
22:52.47prpplaguehehe
22:54.59mnemocprpplague: I thought management had changed...
22:56.02Croftonhe's been wincing a lot ....
22:57.44prpplaguemnemoc: it has, the management has changed, but they are still moving away from a robust engineering department
22:58.01mnemoc:(
22:58.05prpplaguemnemoc: no real development/R&D
22:58.45mnemoc:-\
23:02.25ds2or if this keeps up, wait for my fire sales
23:07.30prpplagueds2: ??
23:12.10prpplagueho ho hum
23:17.00g1powermac_EPCmmm, pickles
23:17.36prpplaguemmm beer
23:17.39GPSFanprpplague: ping
23:17.44prpplagueGPSFan: pong
23:17.50g1powermac_EPCheh
23:18.13prpplagueGPSFan: whats cookin? lamb?
23:18.41g1powermac_EPCpickles, man, pickles! ;-)
23:18.50GPSFanhey, I've actually had some success with openocd 1888. I can run a script and it talks to the hammer and does a flash probe, correctly ;>) and yes, racks are cooking ;>)))
23:19.03prpplaguemmmmmm
23:19.20prpplagueGPSFan: dandy, going to do some kabobs tomorrow
23:19.28GPSFanmmmm
23:19.36prpplagueGPSFan: ok so the flash probe succeeds?
23:19.42ds2prpplague: with the way things are going.... mass liquidation
23:20.18prpplagueds2: with what? i thought you were working for yourself?
23:20.39GPSFanyep, the scripting is very different from older versions, in the way it is invoked, and I don't really understand it or the order in which thing happen yet, but it's progress.
23:22.33ds2prpplague: no room for toys when one moves into a truck
23:23.17prpplagueds2: oh right, you said you are going on the road
23:23.36ds2prpplague: it is looking like that might happen not out of choice
23:23.37prpplagueGPSFan: dandy, you think you'll have it working by EOD monday?
23:23.53prpplagueds2: oh?
23:24.16prpplagueds2: cross country brewery tour?
23:24.33ds2prpplague: more like bouncing between camp grounds
23:24.37Mirellprpplague: Tell him to make a round through Austin
23:24.42Mirellds2: What's going on?
23:25.03ds2just need to find out what's the cost to re-establish gas/electric/water
23:25.03prpplagueMirell: i'm actually trying to convince my wife that austin might be a good move
23:25.21ds2Mirell: nothing... that's the problem :(
23:25.25GPSFanprpplague: hard to say, we've got some sheep going off to butcher Monday am, and the brewery is taking delivery of 2 new 4bbl fermenters, sometime during the day, so Mon. is pretty full. I'll see what I can do tomorrow.
23:25.40g1powermac_EPCds2, wanna manage a shoe store? :-)
23:26.03ds2g1powermac_EPC: and build moonshine stills at night in the back? ;)
23:26.08g1powermac_EPChehehe
23:26.21g1powermac_EPCyou could live in our cardboard dumpster :-)
23:26.24prpplagueGPSFan: ?? brewery? you working for the brewery now?
23:26.25Mirellds2: ...nothing, what? (I'm evidently completely ignorant)
23:26.37ds2Mirell: business is flat... as in zilch
23:26.52ds2got to fix that or convert toys to cash
23:26.52GPSFanprpplague: I do some metal work for them now and again,
23:26.59prpplagueGPSFan: ahh dandy
23:27.07GPSFantrade for beer ;>))
23:27.32prpplagueGPSFan: dandy
23:27.53prpplagueGPSFan: ok, well keep me posted
23:27.58ds2bbl... going to see if the local Baskin Robins is still doing the 0.88 cone thing
23:28.02prpplagueGPSFan: i'll square you away when you are done
23:29.06GPSFanprpplague: np, just make sure your fork doesn't go off to left field
23:29.46prpplagueGPSFan: hehe, you mean openocd-redux?
23:29.56GPSFanindeed
23:31.36prpplagueGPSFan: yea, i've decided to start with R729, but i really would like to get a dump of the svn with all the history
23:31.50prpplagueGPSFan: but i'll go with just the svn export if i have no choice
23:32.16chouimathi
23:32.18GPSFanprpplague: sounds like a plan.
23:32.37chouimatprpplague: I got terminated yesterday
23:34.22prpplaguechouimat: holy cow, was it a T-800 or T-1000 that did it?
23:34.49prpplaguechouimat: i assume it wasn't due to bad work, just layoffs?
23:35.31chouimatprpplague: they found someone with skills closer to the direction they want to get the company on and they could keep both of us
23:35.57prpplaguechouimat: mind if i ask what direction that is?
23:36.43chouimatprpplague: basicly I'm too specialised ... I don't know adobe flex (flash, actionscript etc etc and web stuff)
23:36.57prpplagueahh
23:37.44prpplaguechouimat: i know getting terminated is a serious matter, but you didn't even do a "haha" at my joke.......
23:37.52chouimatprpplague: and you know what ... I'm ok ... I was planning to leave anyway ... the timing is bad
23:38.01chouimatprpplague: sorry "hahaha" ;)
23:38.25MirellWow, prpplague has an iron fist of control.
23:38.27prpplaguechouimat: well, i'm in the same boat, but if you need a reference let me know
23:38.34prpplagueMirell: ??
23:38.37chouimatprpplague: thanks
23:38.42MirellDon't care if you're fired or your family died, laugh at his lame jokes. :D
23:38.55prpplagueMirell: hehehe
23:39.06chouimatMirell: hehe ... actually it was a very sexy T-X
23:39.19MirellMmm, Summer Glau.
23:39.40prpplagueMirell: trust me, i'm so down right now about my own personal circumstances, the only thing keeping me from drinking a case of beer this evening is some lame jokes and cleaning up the @#$@%@#%^@$%@#$% mess that has become openocd
23:40.16MirellHeh
23:40.25MirellThat's why I went to a Lego convention.
23:40.29chouimatprpplague: I allready had too much beer since yesterday
23:41.03prpplaguechouimat: been down to the honest lawyer(is that the name i never can remember that one since it doesn't make sense)
23:41.46prpplaguewonders if that nudie bar is still down there in the ottawa square
23:42.06prpplagueGPSFan: ping
23:42.15GPSFanprpplague: ding
23:42.31chouimatprpplague: no ... went to see some friends at another pub closer to home ... and a a friend decided to help me forget the bad news ... I never knew she liked me that much ;)
23:42.44chouimatprpplague: barefax? yes it still there
23:43.02prpplagueGPSFan: need to take some picks of the rack and put them up on the elinux wiki under Lamb_Linux
23:43.24prpplaguechouimat: naw, seems like it was another name
23:43.30g1powermac_EPCprpplague, heh
23:43.57GPSFan;>))
23:44.32g1powermac_EPChmm, ponder the possibility of linux running sheep. . .
23:45.31prpplaguecybor sheep with positronic brain running linux kernel 62.59.25
23:45.35prpplaguecyborg
23:45.43g1powermac_EPCnice
23:46.49prpplaguechouimat: well let me know if there is anything i can do
23:47.20prpplaguechouimat: hopefully my father's estate clears soon, when it does i can to do a few projects
23:48.31chouimatprpplague: I also have a few projects ... I designed them for them  but I didn't had the chance to propose them ... so their lost ;)
23:49.11prpplaguechouimat: indeed
23:49.34chouimatprpplague: and thanks ... I will keep this in mind
23:49.57prpplaguechouimat: i'm hoping maybe that since i;ll have some money that i can skim some great ideas/work from the channel and make some money for us
23:52.10chouimathehe ... my current plan is to have a few weeks of vacations ... my severance packages is ok 6 weeks of pay and after that i'm allowed to get Employement insurance so ... and I still have a lot of money in my bank accounts :)

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