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| 03:24.19 | fatblobnix | hello! wmat has kindly pointed me in this direction.. i have a pcb design in a file.. but i can't work out what pcb design package was used, so i can't read it! any clues i should be looking for? the file extension is ".PCB" and i think the designer used a Mac (but may not have used the Mac for the PCB work).. |
| 03:25.31 | fatblobnix | -rwxrwxr-x 1 michael michael 99328 2009-06-25 15:49 mm_pcb_for_andy.pcb |
| 03:25.35 | fatblobnix | that's the file |
| 03:25.48 | fatblobnix | [michael@epox mmartwork]$ hexdump mm_pcb_for_andy.pcb | more |
| 03:25.48 | fatblobnix | 0000000 cfd0 e011 b1a1 e11a 0000 0000 0000 0000 |
| 03:25.52 | fatblobnix | that's the start of it.. |
| 03:26.23 | fatblobnix | gerbview says "illegal file format".. |
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| 03:27.01 | fatblobnix | actually that hexdump has swapped endians |
| 03:27.40 | ds2 | tried making sure it isn't the proprietary format from expresspcb? |
| 03:29.00 | fatblobnix | i.e. d0cf 11e0 a1b1 1ae1, .....etc... |
| 03:29.17 | fatblobnix | ahh.. thanks ds2.. i will take a look! |
| 03:29.40 | fatblobnix | i've waded through with hexedit, and i find a few text strings in the file, but they are the board labels, so nothing obvious even there |
| 03:30.08 | fatblobnix | i found "EPCWin" but that is apparently an embroidery program?! |
| 03:33.23 | fatblobnix | aww.. "not a valid ExpressPCB file" |
| 03:33.41 | fatblobnix | thanks for the suggestion.. it was close! (but not cigar!) |
| 03:40.20 | fatblobnix | Collecting data from file: mm_pcb_for_andy.pcb |
| 03:40.20 | fatblobnix | 100.0% (.) Generic OLE2 / Multistream Compound File (8000/1) |
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| 09:33.23 | methril|work | yo |
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| 13:24.56 | chouimat|away | morning |
| 13:25.10 | g1powermac_EPC | morning chouimat |
| 13:27.38 | wmat | morning |
| 14:04.31 | g1powermac_EPC | what do you guys think of this mobo: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813182101 |
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| 14:39.45 | wmat | g1powermac_EPC: it looks very nice and the reviews seem all positive |
| 14:39.54 | wmat | what are you building? |
| 14:39.59 | g1powermac_EPC | new dev system |
| 14:40.11 | g1powermac_EPC | so the serial ports and the pci slots are important to me :-) |
| 14:40.48 | g1powermac_EPC | trying to figure out what the best linux supported dual head graphics card would be |
| 14:41.41 | g1powermac_EPC | currently upto $850 on the mobo, procs, and ram |
| 14:42.00 | wmat | most ATI or Nvidia cards support dual head now |
| 14:42.22 | g1powermac_EPC | just wondering which of the two would have better linux support |
| 14:42.41 | g1powermac_EPC | I know nvidia has binary linux drivers, but ati released docs on the gpus |
| 14:42.50 | chouimat | g1powermac_EPC: I have 2 RadeonHD 2600xt in my mac (both dual head) and they are good |
| 14:42.55 | wmat | i've had success with both but am using a ATI card right now, as it's quiet |
| 14:43.05 | g1powermac_EPC | chouimat, I don't care about your mac pro ;-) |
| 14:43.27 | chouimat | g1powermac_EPC: I was suggesting a graphic card ... dumbass ;) |
| 14:44.07 | g1powermac_EPC | of course, but its for your mac pro, and therefore it works great with mac os x ;-) |
| 14:44.25 | chouimat | g1powermac_EPC: works great with linux too ... |
| 14:45.11 | g1powermac_EPC | oh |
| 14:45.12 | g1powermac_EPC | hmm |
| 14:45.32 | chouimat | ok I use the ati binary driver but ... |
| 14:45.38 | g1powermac_EPC | bah ;-) |
| 14:53.22 | g1powermac_EPC | http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814103071 |
| 14:53.26 | g1powermac_EPC | nice little card |
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| 15:39.33 | g1powermac_EPC | ok, so now upto $1200 of stuff |
| 15:46.30 | chouimat | g1powermac_EPC: nice |
| 15:46.47 | chouimat | g1powermac_EPC: how much ram? and which cpu? |
| 15:46.59 | g1powermac_EPC | 4gb of ram |
| 15:47.16 | g1powermac_EPC | two of these: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819117151 |
| 15:47.40 | chouimat | nice |
| 15:49.09 | chouimat | g1powermac_EPC: 2 quad core ... be carefull with the ram ... |
| 15:49.32 | g1powermac_EPC | how so? |
| 15:53.02 | chouimat | g1powermac_EPC: you will find that 4GB might not be enough |
| 15:53.15 | g1powermac_EPC | really? |
| 15:53.42 | chouimat | g1powermac_EPC: remember I have a dual quad core as development box and I will suggest 8GB ... |
| 15:53.48 | chouimat | but it's your choice |
| 15:54.18 | g1powermac_EPC | k |
| 15:54.33 | g1powermac_EPC | well, its definitely expandable to 8gb when the time is needed :-) |
| 15:55.38 | g1powermac_EPC | looks like the system is going to top out at $1280, roughly |
| 15:55.42 | g1powermac_EPC | without the dual lcds |
| 15:55.55 | g1powermac_EPC | my goal is to keep it under $1500 total |
| 15:56.33 | g1powermac_EPC | still need to get a few pci cards |
| 15:56.46 | g1powermac_EPC | but here's what it's looking like: |
| 15:56.51 | g1powermac_EPC | 1x http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813182101 |
| 15:57.03 | g1powermac_EPC | 2x http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819117151 |
| 15:57.15 | g1powermac_EPC | 2x http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820146704 |
| 15:57.28 | g1powermac_EPC | 1x http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814103071 |
| 15:57.40 | g1powermac_EPC | 1x http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?ItemList=Combo.199397 |
| 15:57.53 | g1powermac_EPC | 4x http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822136075 |
| 15:58.06 | g1powermac_EPC | crap, forgot about the dvd burner |
| 15:58.36 | g1powermac_EPC | btw, the 4 hard drives will be set in a raid 10 and will get 320gb out of them |
| 15:58.48 | g1powermac_EPC | more than plenty for what I need |
| 16:00.53 | g1powermac_EPC | final piece: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16827151173 |
| 16:04.41 | chouimat | nice |
| 16:05.10 | g1powermac_EPC | I think thats a pretty good deal, $1300 or so for all that |
| 16:05.23 | chouimat | nice thunderstorm coming in |
| 16:06.18 | g1powermac_EPC | finish it all off with two of these: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16824009136 |
| 16:08.00 | chouimat | g1powermac_EPC: Ihave 4 like this one http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16824176112 (previous model the w2007) |
| 16:08.38 | g1powermac_EPC | nice, but I don't much like widescreen displays |
| 16:08.56 | g1powermac_EPC | especially when coding, would rather have more height |
| 16:10.20 | chouimat | g1powermac_EPC: same here but 6720x1050 make a nice desktop |
| 16:10.33 | g1powermac_EPC | I can imagine |
| 16:11.27 | chouimat | maybe I will try to get some shelves and make a nice 2x2 (3360x2100) |
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