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| 01:17.27 | g1powermac | anyone here use minicom to send zImages to a target device? |
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| 06:11.25 | Mirell | o.O |
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| 13:34.38 | g1powermac | morning prpplague |
| 13:34.44 | prpplague | greetings |
| 13:35.14 | g1powermac | compiled a new z2 kernel last night only to find the zImage was 13 mb and would take three years to download via xmodem ;-) |
| 13:36.48 | g1powermac | I had it taking its initramfs from buildroot/project_build_arm/Z2/root |
| 13:37.04 | g1powermac | which was just chock full of stuff I had forgotten I added to the buildroot build |
| 13:37.33 | g1powermac | mainly the entire native toolchain :-) |
| 13:37.50 | g1powermac | could have compiled stuff directly on the z2 afterwards though ;-) |
| 13:38.57 | g1powermac | morning chouimat |
| 13:39.25 | prpplague | g1powermac: hehe |
| 13:41.03 | g1powermac | prpplague, now would taking the stuff from that directory for the initramfs would generally be the proper spot in buildroot? |
| 13:41.29 | g1powermac | guessed that looked to contain the entire root dir needed |
| 13:43.08 | g1powermac | hmm, gtg for a bit, bbl |
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| 14:43.21 | chouimat | morning |
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| 15:18.58 | prpplague | i have to say one thing, doing this wince dev has really really been challenging and educational in what to NOT do for OS development |
| 15:19.44 | prpplague | kergoth: is it hot over there in the desert? |
| 15:21.08 | kergoth | it was 108 a couple days ago |
| 15:21.08 | kergoth | the overnight lows are in the 80s right now |
| 15:21.10 | kergoth | it was 90-something at 7:30am |
| 15:21.27 | prpplague | kergoth: ahh so about the same as here, we were 104 this past week |
| 15:21.45 | prpplague | kergoth: we had ghost rain on friday |
| 15:22.54 | kergoth | sheesh |
| 15:26.34 | chouimat | ghost rain? |
| 15:26.57 | prpplague | chouimat: when the ground is so hot the rain never reaches the ground, it just evaporates |
| 15:27.59 | chouimat | ok |
| 15:28.12 | prpplague | hmm interesting, no wikipedia entry |
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| 15:28.31 | prpplague | chouimat: it doesn't happen very often |
| 15:28.42 | prpplague | chouimat: but when it does, it is a totally bizare site |
| 15:28.44 | prpplague | sight |
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| 15:30.18 | chouimat | prpplague: I imagine |
| 15:31.31 | prpplague | interesting, there appears to be very little that google can find about ghost rain |
| 15:32.53 | prpplague | lots of books seem to come up, but no real posted information |
| 15:33.06 | prpplague | you'd think in this day and age you could find info on just about anything |
| 15:36.30 | chouimat | prpplague: probably not ... anyway I'm bored and hungry ... and don't feel like cooking or having some ramen noodles |
| 15:36.50 | prpplague | chouimat: nudie bar for the lunch buffet? |
| 15:37.19 | solar | it's not such a bad plan |
| 15:37.37 | prpplague | hehe |
| 15:37.41 | prpplague | solar: hey bud |
| 15:38.01 | solar | anything new happening? |
| 15:38.14 | chouimat | prpplague: hehe ... need to keep my money ... |
| 15:38.15 | solar | like that nude beach bar? :) |
| 15:39.01 | chouimat | looks at his kuroboxpro, sheevaplug, 2 lacie edmini and the new openrd-client ... and think I should do something with them |
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| 15:48.34 | prpplague | GPSFan: thanks for all the hardwork on the openocd stuff, i haven't forgot you, i'll square you away later this month |
| 15:49.37 | GPSFan | prpplague: glad that I was able to help, been swamped the last few days, with no end in sight. |
| 15:51.10 | chouimat | must be sick because I feel like having some KFC |
| 16:32.06 | prpplague | i hate the fact that wince platform builder builds things that are never included in the system |
| 16:41.52 | agaffney | prpplague: submit a patch :P |
| 16:42.20 | prpplague | agaffney: hehe, i have enough trouble trying to get patches in to OSS, much less something like platform builder |
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| 17:43.22 | rektide | anyone familiar with ShivaPlug/OpenPlug/OpenRD ? |
| 17:43.25 | rektide | i'm curious how the linux BSP is |
| 17:43.37 | rektide | how hard it is to get booting, what i can boot from |
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| 19:22.08 | g1powermac | prpplague, hehe, so the native toolchain took up around 10mb of that zImage :-) |
| 19:22.13 | g1powermac | got it down to 3.3mb |
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| 19:35.06 | g1powermac | heya chouimat |
| 19:41.19 | g1powermac | prpplague, hmm, while trying to transfer the new kernel, I'm getting "NAK on sector" after the first 2mb or so |
| 19:41.38 | g1powermac | prpplague, could this be an issue with the flyswatter/usb-serial? |
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| 19:51.41 | slapin_nb | Hi, all! If I have big NAND (2GB), big jffs2 image (256MB), and a small (64MB) amount of RAM. Is there some way to flash this image to NAND using u-boot on such a system? |
| 19:52.50 | prpplague | g1powermac: no that sounds like something wrong with your device |
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| 19:55.07 | g1powermac | prpplague, hrmm |
| 19:55.59 | g1powermac | strange, never had this happen when on my dev machine with true serial ports |
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| 19:58.02 | g1powermac | the really odd part is the twice I tried it, it died at roughly the same point |
| 19:59.45 | g1powermac | slapin_nb, what kind of connections to u-boot do you have? |
| 19:59.58 | g1powermac | hopefully not just serial, or you'll be at till sometime next year |
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| 20:00.19 | g1powermac | wb prpplague |
| 20:00.32 | slapin_nb | g1powermac, ethernet and serial |
| 20:00.47 | g1powermac | k, at least you got ethernet then |
| 20:01.13 | g1powermac | iirc, u-boot offers something where you can upload an image via tftp |
| 20:01.45 | g1powermac | thats what I needed to do with my OpenWRT linux installs on my routers |
| 20:01.56 | slapin_nb | g1powermac, yes, but that can't be more than RAM size |
| 20:02.06 | g1powermac | hmm |
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| 20:04.49 | g1powermac | you know, speaking of this |
| 20:05.26 | g1powermac | prpplague, could it be that blob is sticking the incoming kernel image toward the end of the ram and it runs out at a certain point? |
| 20:06.51 | prpplague | g1powermac: it is possible or it is overwriting the memory space blob is running in |
| 20:07.06 | g1powermac | yup, just died again at 2220ish kb |
| 20:07.42 | g1powermac | wonders how to test to see if that's the case |
| 20:09.23 | g1powermac | prpplague, is there a way to tell blob to start this thing at another part of main memory? |
| 20:09.53 | prpplague | g1powermac: yes and no, best thing to do is find out where blob is running in the first place |
| 20:10.26 | g1powermac | right at the beginning when blob is booting, it gives me this: |
| 20:10.30 | g1powermac | Memory map: |
| 20:10.53 | g1powermac | 0x02000000 @ 0xa0000000 (32 MB) |
| 20:11.38 | g1powermac | hmm, this could explain GPSFan's comment that the kernel should be no larger than 2.2mb |
| 20:12.13 | g1powermac | thought he was just giving a guide to what his was in size |
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| 20:16.24 | g1powermac_XU | ahh, here we go |
| 20:16.43 | g1powermac_XU | blob version 2.0.5-pre3 for Intel HCDDBBVA0 (Mainstone) |
| 20:16.44 | g1powermac_XU | Download speed : 7115200 baud |
| 20:16.44 | g1powermac_XU | Terminal speed : 7115200 baud |
| 20:16.44 | g1powermac_XU | blob (0x00000000): from flash |
| 20:16.44 | g1powermac_XU | param (0x00010000): from flash |
| 20:16.45 | g1powermac_XU | kernel (0x00010000): from flash |
| 20:16.47 | g1powermac_XU | ramdisk (0x00240000): from flash |
| 20:19.32 | prpplague | g1powermac: ok so you don't want to use a initramfs |
| 20:19.40 | prpplague | g1powermac: you will have to do a seperate initrd |
| 20:19.59 | g1powermac | ahh |
| 20:22.21 | g1powermac | prpplague, is there an option right from the kernel menuconfig to create a separate initrd? |
| 20:22.34 | g1powermac | never played with this with the z2 stuff |
| 20:24.00 | g1powermac | hmm, or can I just use the image spit out by buildroot |
| 20:24.15 | g1powermac | that's being internalized into the kernel atm |
| 20:34.00 | prpplague | g1powermac: what command are you using to build your kernel? |
| 20:34.29 | g1powermac | make ARCH="arm" CROSS_COMPILE="path to buildroot toolchain" |
| 20:35.05 | prpplague | g1powermac: ahh, try building just a zImage |
| 20:36.42 | g1powermac | hmm |
| 20:36.58 | g1powermac | added the zImage part to the make command, but its still the same size |
| 20:37.19 | g1powermac | I have it taking in a .cpio rootfs generated from buildroot in the kernel config |
| 20:37.50 | prpplague | g1powermac: then that means you have initramfs setup in your kernel config to build |
| 20:37.57 | g1powermac | yea |
| 20:38.16 | g1powermac | but now how do I generate an initrd in this case? |
| 20:38.48 | prpplague | g1powermac: whatever you used to generate your initramfs should be able to do initrd |
| 20:38.54 | prpplague | g1powermac: was it created by buildroot? |
| 20:39.28 | g1powermac | yup |
| 20:40.18 | g1powermac | do I just upload an ext2 version of the rootfs to the zipit? |
| 20:42.13 | prpplague | g1powermac: first edit your kernel config to not include an initramfs, then edit your buildroot config to build a initrd instead of initramfs |
| 20:42.27 | g1powermac | hmm |
| 20:42.35 | g1powermac | well, buildroot doesn't have that option |
| 20:42.40 | g1powermac | been looking at it |
| 20:43.54 | g1powermac | it can make an initramfs_list to feed to the kernel |
| 20:44.07 | g1powermac | it can make a bunch of different fs type images |
| 20:44.14 | g1powermac | but nothing specifically for an initrd |
| 20:44.32 | prpplague | g1powermac: oh yes it does |
| 20:44.50 | prpplague | g1powermac: on sec let me look |
| 20:44.54 | g1powermac | k |
| 20:45.03 | g1powermac | thanks :-) |
| 20:45.38 | prpplague | g1powermac: unless something has changed, select the ext2 filesystem option |
| 20:45.53 | g1powermac | k |
| 20:45.56 | prpplague | g1powermac: then select a compression method |
| 20:46.00 | prpplague | g1powermac: gzip is the standard |
| 20:46.00 | g1powermac | can I use gzip? |
| 20:46.10 | g1powermac | heh, thought along the same path there :-) |
| 20:46.25 | g1powermac | have already built that then :-) |
| 20:46.40 | g1powermac | thankee |
| 20:47.08 | prpplague | np |
| 20:47.17 | prpplague | needs to write an embedded linux book |
| 20:47.37 | g1powermac | yea, and make it specific to buildroot, I'd buy a dozen :-) |
| 20:48.59 | g1powermac | woo, kernel is down to 1.7mb |
| 20:49.02 | g1powermac | lets try this again |
| 20:49.11 | prpplague | wow 1.7mb? what the heck do you have in there |
| 20:49.33 | prpplague | are you doing it as a monolithic kernel? |
| 20:49.38 | g1powermac | pretty much |
| 20:50.12 | g1powermac | needs to beat his dogs. . . |
| 20:52.07 | g1powermac | really need to go through the config, its mostly someone else's who has done work on the z2 kernel in OE |
| 20:53.28 | g1powermac | I'm just trying to get a working system first |
| 20:53.46 | g1powermac | with buildroot instead of the insanity called OE |
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| 20:56.39 | g1powermac | would like to see on doing the whole kernel build from within buildroot one day, would make a nice little package that could be distributed then |
| 20:59.48 | rektide | what platform are you guys working on? |
| 20:59.57 | g1powermac | rektide, this here is the zipit2 |
| 21:00.10 | g1powermac | which runs a pxa270/ARM |
| 21:01.19 | g1powermac | amazing, the compressed rootfs is smaller than the kernel, definitely need to trim that thing down |
| 21:01.30 | chouimat|away | bbl really need a cold beer after a not so good day |
| 21:02.27 | prpplague | chouimat|away: you ok bud? |
| 21:02.45 | chouimat|away | prpplague: just bored |
| 21:02.48 | prpplague | rektide: i'm working with a s3c2410 based device |
| 21:02.59 | rektide | ooh niceness. minus the whole win ce part. |
| 21:03.09 | prpplague | chouimat|away: i won't be able to send you a M8050 untill the end of july |
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| 21:03.25 | chouimat|away | prpplague: and I have way too much stuff to do home that I know where to start |
| 21:04.22 | chouimat|away | prpplague: I just spent a few hours at a services canada office, so I can apply for EI |
| 21:04.47 | g1powermac | becomes hypnotized watching the kilobytes go ever higher as its transferring the rootfs. . . |
| 21:04.48 | prpplague | is afraid to as what EI stands for |
| 21:04.54 | prpplague | ask |
| 21:04.57 | chouimat|away | Employment Insurance |
| 21:05.01 | prpplague | ahh |
| 21:07.07 | g1powermac | bah, bugger |
| 21:07.15 | g1powermac | it paniced on boot |
| 21:07.21 | g1powermac | can't find the root fs |
| 21:07.23 | chouimat|away | prpplague: beside this I'm ok ... anyway ttyl need to catch a bus (last day for my bus pass and I don't plan to get the july one) |
| 21:07.35 | g1powermac | prolly need to modify the kernel boot params |
| 21:07.42 | g1powermac | to use the initrd instead |
| 21:08.45 | g1powermac | but I got tux on the lcd! all is happy ;-) |
| 21:11.14 | g1powermac | ponders what would be needed |
| 21:11.28 | g1powermac_XU | prpplague, this is what the kernel spit out: VFS: Cannot open root device "<NULL>" or unknown-block(0,0) |
| 21:11.28 | g1powermac_XU | Please append a correct "root=" boot option; here are the available partitions: |
| 21:11.28 | g1powermac_XU | 1f00 8192 mtdblock0 (driver?) |
| 21:11.28 | g1powermac_XU | Kernel panic - not syncing: VFS: Unable to mount root fs on unknown-block(0,0) |
| 21:11.48 | g1powermac_XU | what would I set root= to? root=/dev/mtdblock0? |
| 21:11.55 | prpplague | /dev/ram0 |
| 21:11.58 | g1powermac_XU | ahh |
| 21:13.01 | g1powermac | will retry it in a bit |
| 21:13.04 | g1powermac | thanks for the help |
| 21:13.07 | prpplague | np |
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| 21:33.55 | g1powermac_XU | dang, still paniced |
| 21:34.13 | g1powermac_XU | prpplague, List of all partitions: |
| 21:34.13 | g1powermac_XU | 1f00 8192 mtdblock0 (driver?) |
| 21:34.13 | g1powermac_XU | No filesystem could mount root, tried: ext3 ext2 vfat msdos |
| 21:34.38 | prpplague | g1powermac_XU: what was your command line for the kernel? |
| 21:34.53 | g1powermac_XU | one sec |
| 21:35.40 | g1powermac_XU | console=ttyS2,115200 fbcon=rotate:3 root=/dev/ram0 |
| 21:37.45 | prpplague | g1powermac_XU: probably need to tell the kernel where your ramdisk is and how big it might be |
| 21:38.23 | prpplague | add: initrd=0x30800000,8M - where 0x30800000 is the starting address of the ramdisk, and 8M is the compressed sized |
| 21:38.35 | g1powermac_XU | ahh |
| 21:39.46 | g1powermac_XU | round up if it is a fraction of a mb? |
| 21:40.45 | g1powermac_XU | or go for the exact size? |
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| 21:41.26 | prpplague | g1powermac: no need for an exact size, the amount will be deallocated after extraction, nearest mb |
| 21:41.32 | g1powermac_XU | k |
| 21:42.07 | g1powermac_XU | thankee again :-) |
| 21:42.12 | g1powermac_XU | hopefully this time it works |
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| 22:00.16 | ds2 | Hmmmm |
| 22:02.21 | g1powermac | oh dear |
| 22:02.41 | *** join/#edev flavioribeiro (n=avaty@189.71.69.58) |
| 22:02.43 | g1powermac | prpplague, by any chance did I still need to keep that root=/dev/ram0 in there? |
| 22:02.54 | g1powermac | pounds his head, as he thinks he prolly needed that |
| 22:02.59 | prpplague | g1powermac: yep |
| 22:03.05 | g1powermac | agh |
| 22:03.07 | g1powermac | oh well |
| 22:03.35 | g1powermac | one more time :> |
| 22:04.35 | g1powermac | if only serial download worked just a bit faster. . . |
| 22:05.54 | g1powermac | can say one thing, I can start a serial transfer pretty darn fast now ;-) |
| 22:07.30 | prpplague | hehe |
| 22:07.41 | prpplague | heads home |
| 22:07.44 | prpplague | g1powermac: later bud |
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| 22:21.57 | g1powermac | gah |
| 22:22.03 | g1powermac | it still didn't boot |
| 22:27.41 | devilsadvocate | im trying to get an atmel AT91SAM7X to play well (or, at all) with the Atmel SAM-ICE on a board I designed. |
| 22:27.41 | devilsadvocate | is it ok thats LEDs connected to some pins are semi-glowing? |
| 22:27.41 | devilsadvocate | and the J-link software is able to identify the ARM core but is not able to read the registers and such |
| 22:27.41 | devilsadvocate | any possible ideas as to why/how this is happening or what could be wrong? |
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| 22:39.21 | rektide | arg, the OpenRD advertises a power draw of 24 watts |
| 22:39.28 | rektide | thats about 12 more than i want for a car computer |
| 22:39.42 | rektide | thats just the spec-- lord knows what its real life draw is going to be |
| 22:41.55 | florian | rektide: 17,5 of this could be for powering the usb busses |
| 22:42.28 | ds2 | OpenRD? |
| 22:46.27 | g1powermac | sigh, I give up |
| 22:47.29 | g1powermac_XU | I get this interesting error in the dmesg: INITRD: 0x00040000+0x00200000 extends beyond physical memory - disabling initrd |
| 22:47.48 | g1powermac_XU | wonders where the heck the initrd is located in ram |
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| 22:48.21 | g1powermac_XU | according to the memory map, it should be 0x00240000 |
| 22:48.36 | g1powermac_XU | which is what I put in the initrd boot param originally |
| 22:49.01 | g1powermac_XU | then I changed it to the 0x00040000 when I saw that offset thing in the dmesg |
| 23:13.37 | g1powermac_XU | ponders what address to give it |
| 23:13.54 | g1powermac_XU | after downloading the kernel and ramdisk, blob reports this: |
| 23:13.57 | g1powermac_XU | blob version 2.0.5-pre3 for Intel HCDDBBVA0 (Mainstone) |
| 23:13.57 | g1powermac_XU | Download speed : 7115200 baud |
| 23:13.57 | g1powermac_XU | Terminal speed : 7115200 baud |
| 23:13.57 | g1powermac_XU | blob (0x00000000): from flash |
| 23:13.57 | g1powermac_XU | param (0x00010000): from flash |
| 23:13.57 | g1powermac_XU | kernel (0x00010000): downloaded at 0xa0008000, 1741568 bytes |
| 23:14.00 | g1powermac_XU | ramdisk (0x00240000): downloaded at 0xa0500000, 1577472 bytes |
| 23:14.18 | g1powermac_XU | tried the 0xa0500000, but still didn't work |
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| 23:38.57 | calculus | rektide: I read the video chip takes 2W on the client model |
| 23:43.29 | calculus | http://www.xgitech.com/products/products_2.asp?P=25 |