| 00:01.02 | T0mW | g1powermac: heh |
| 00:01.21 | T0mW | g1powermac: took down two pine trees on Monday, I feel your pain. |
| 00:01.46 | g1powermac | hehe, actually I found it fun :-) |
| 00:01.59 | g1powermac | T0mW, I just bought a house today :-) |
| 00:02.04 | T0mW | yeah, but, now you will have to replace them? |
| 00:02.20 | T0mW | g1powermac: congrats, the bleeding has just begun. |
| 00:02.34 | g1powermac | yup, that'll be the really fun part (note the sarcasm this time ;-) |
| 00:02.42 | g1powermac | thankee |
| 00:03.02 | T0mW | nice thing about ownership, nobody is there to tell you what not to do. |
| 00:03.08 | g1powermac | yup |
| 00:03.33 | g1powermac | plus we're moving to a house with 1.5 acres, lots of room for our dogs |
| 00:03.43 | g1powermac | which is becoming a major issue here at the old house |
| 00:04.25 | T0mW | I'm getting ready to install a fluorescent fixture in the kitchen. Could not find what I wanted so I'm building it. Non-recessed 4 bulb light with wood frame (real wood, not plastic). |
| 00:04.47 | g1powermac | ahh, cool |
| 00:05.04 | T0mW | waiting for glue to dry, then stain, then poly, then run the wiring. heh |
| 00:05.36 | T0mW | g1powermac: I found that I like working with wood: new hobby! |
| 00:05.39 | g1powermac | the few major projects I'm going to be doing is redoing the deck steps, gutting and redoing the kitchen and master bath, and building a room or two in the basement |
| 00:05.46 | g1powermac | yup, its fun |
| 00:05.59 | g1powermac | but I enjoy framing much better than finish stuff :-) |
| 00:06.19 | T0mW | radiant heat is next up, got 1500ft of PEX yesterday along with manifolds and valves. |
| 00:06.26 | g1powermac | ahh, nice |
| 00:06.34 | g1powermac | I've been thinking of doing that as well |
| 00:06.50 | g1powermac | with the full basement we have, got total access to all the main levels floors |
| 00:07.03 | T0mW | yeah, ripped all the carpet out of this place and replaced it with 3/4 hardwood. |
| 00:07.04 | g1powermac | so I could easily stick that under the floors |
| 00:07.08 | g1powermac | awesome |
| 00:07.32 | T0mW | *that* was painful (was totally out of shape for that job) |
| 00:07.32 | g1powermac | only issue with radiant floor at this time is our furnace is a conventional heat pump |
| 00:07.36 | g1powermac | hehe |
| 00:07.59 | g1powermac | but, I'd like to put in solar thermal panels and set the radiant floor to use that |
| 00:08.12 | T0mW | well, you'll have to see if the cost of heating is going to be a problem? Maybe not. |
| 00:08.45 | T0mW | g1powermac: I have ELECTRIC heat |
| 00:08.48 | g1powermac | fun |
| 00:09.18 | T0mW | our electric rates go up 34+ % this January. |
| 00:09.25 | g1powermac | heat pump isn't all that much better, albeit its still an order of magnitude better than resistive electric |
| 00:09.56 | g1powermac | though when it gets really cold here, it turns into resistive electric with the emergency heating coil |
| 00:10.17 | g1powermac | which happened *alot* this year |
| 00:10.52 | g1powermac | bbiab, need to get some house stuff done here |
| 00:10.56 | T0mW | g1powermac: so, how big is your place (sq ft)? |
| 00:22.58 | g1powermac | T0mW, around 1700sq ft for the main level |
| 00:23.17 | g1powermac | its large, mainly because my entire family is living with me |
| 00:23.31 | T0mW | nice |
| 00:23.39 | T0mW | I've only 1500 |
| 00:23.49 | T0mW | but that is only for me |
| 00:24.02 | g1powermac | got it for a good price too, 15k less than appraised value |
| 00:24.11 | T0mW | cool, where? |
| 00:24.17 | g1powermac | out here in kentucky |
| 00:24.23 | T0mW | ah |
| 00:24.46 | g1powermac | can almost see the house from where we live now if I go down the road a bit |
| 00:24.53 | T0mW | I knew someone who moved to Kentucky, they disappeared into the woods somewhere. |
| 00:24.53 | T0mW | heh |
| 00:24.57 | g1powermac | heheh |
| 00:25.03 | g1powermac | woods? what woods ;-) |
| 00:25.18 | g1powermac | you'll get lost in the 3000 horse and cattle farms ;-) |
| 00:25.34 | T0mW | Also had a friend who moved to southern VA, he still comes back north to have conversations with people. |
| 00:25.35 | T0mW | heh |
| 00:25.45 | g1powermac | hehe |
| 00:25.51 | T0mW | he is down near the NC line |
| 00:25.54 | g1powermac | ahh |
| 00:26.09 | T0mW | "town" is 12 miles away |
| 00:26.12 | g1powermac | was looking to move to both VA and NC before we moved here to KY |
| 00:26.37 | T0mW | well, if there are that many farms, sounds up-scale to me. |
| 00:26.44 | g1powermac | heh |
| 00:26.55 | g1powermac | you haven't *seen* these farms ;-) |
| 00:27.09 | T0mW | is that people who work at three letter agencies and weekend on "the farm"? |
| 00:27.09 | g1powermac | some are definitely way upscale, especially the horse farms |
| 00:27.29 | T0mW | thought so |
| 00:27.39 | g1powermac | but, many of the cattle farms are very, ehm, for lack of a better word, white trash ;-) |
| 00:27.43 | T0mW | I grew up on a dairy farm |
| 00:27.56 | g1powermac | dairies aren't so bad |
| 00:28.02 | g1powermac | these are beef cattle farms here |
| 00:28.15 | T0mW | poor though, milk is price controlled so farmer starves. |
| 00:28.24 | g1powermac | which for some reason people think they make a mess of everything just because |
| 00:28.34 | g1powermac | (and it isn't the cows that make the mess) |
| 00:28.50 | T0mW | so, how far is your commute? |
| 00:29.02 | g1powermac | depends really |
| 00:29.23 | g1powermac | if going to our store, only 10 mins or so |
| 00:29.41 | g1powermac | but if I get this job I'm looking at, no commute whatsoever :-) |
| 00:30.05 | g1powermac | looking at a telecommuting computer/embedded engineering job :-) |
| 00:30.21 | g1powermac | brb dinner |
| 00:30.34 | T0mW | later |
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| 00:36.13 | g1powermac | back |
| 00:36.58 | g1powermac | T0mW, so, I've also been doing quite a bit with the zipit2 lately |
| 00:37.21 | T0mW | ah, latest OE fails the first build. something broken with ccache |
| 00:37.29 | g1powermac | got a new buildroot going for it and new kernel with an autogenerated initramfs created by buildroot |
| 00:38.04 | g1powermac | also got sdl working with it |
| 00:38.24 | T0mW | I'm wondering if my ccache probs are due to my Mandriva 2009.1 install. <sigh> I'll have to put everything on the 2008.1 box and try it there. |
| 00:38.27 | T0mW | OE sux |
| 00:38.30 | g1powermac | yea |
| 00:38.43 | T0mW | best thing we got though |
| 00:38.48 | chouimat | hi T0mW |
| 00:39.10 | g1powermac | prefers buildroot at this point |
| 00:39.28 | T0mW | g1powermac: I got this in today: http://www.embedinfo.com/english/Product/sbc2440-III.asp |
| 00:39.54 | T0mW | comes with qtopia preinstalled (bleah) |
| 00:40.07 | g1powermac | nice |
| 00:40.21 | T0mW | LOL, all the text on it is in chinese! |
| 00:40.28 | g1powermac | hah |
| 00:40.40 | T0mW | but the apps are in english |
| 00:41.07 | g1powermac | gotta love that :-) |
| 00:41.18 | T0mW | what I mean is the icons have chinese text but the apps use english. |
| 00:41.59 | T0mW | I got a project to do with the CPU board but bought the dev board to make sure I had a working reference. |
| 00:42.15 | g1powermac | yea, thats smart |
| 00:42.31 | T0mW | I haven't touched a Zipit2 since I moved in here last July. |
| 00:42.42 | g1powermac | thats about the time I stopped |
| 00:42.42 | T0mW | that is when I put them on the shelf on the workshop. |
| 00:43.20 | g1powermac | but just recently got back into it |
| 00:43.33 | g1powermac | lots of progress has been made |
| 00:43.39 | T0mW | g1powermac: http://www.tomsnewhome.info/ |
| 00:44.05 | g1powermac | kewl |
| 00:44.37 | g1powermac | the z2 is now running a 2.6.29 kernel and using the new gspi patches for the wifi |
| 00:45.07 | T0mW | g1powermac: friend told me to take a lot of pictures so I will remember things. It works, whenever I feel overwhelmed, I go back and see how much HAS been done. |
| 00:45.15 | T0mW | g1powermac: ah |
| 00:45.37 | T0mW | yeah, this board here is a 2.6.13, a bit old. |
| 00:45.56 | T0mW | going to take some serious work to get it up to 2.6.29 |
| 00:46.17 | T0mW | no patch files, just a huge tarball of kernel source. |
| 00:46.51 | T0mW | always fun to diff the kernel source, then try to figure out how to organize all that crap into meaningful patches. |
| 00:47.14 | T0mW | well, btdt, so nothing new. |
| 00:47.29 | T0mW | g1powermac: you getting a telecommute job, eh? |
| 00:48.11 | T0mW | chouimat: hi! |
| 00:48.26 | T0mW | chouimat: where you living now? |
| 00:48.27 | T0mW | heh |
| 00:48.58 | T0mW | goes to make more caffine |
| 00:53.18 | g1powermac | T0mW, possibly, yea |
| 00:53.29 | g1powermac | brb, feeding the dogs |
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| 01:06.35 | g1powermac | T0mW, I hope it works out |
| 01:07.02 | g1powermac | T0mW, I may just need to go to south carolina once a month or so but thats about it |
| 01:07.08 | T0mW | ow |
| 01:07.11 | T0mW | ow ow |
| 01:07.33 | g1powermac | (its not a long ride, only about 6 hours or so from here) |
| 01:07.47 | T0mW | South Carolina, all I know about that state is when I go to visit my brother in Alabama, I make sure I keep BELOW the speed limit in SC. |
| 01:08.01 | g1powermac | heh |
| 01:08.13 | g1powermac | any out of staters in any states are prime targets :-) |
| 01:08.51 | T0mW | yeah, but some states are getting better, Georgia has changed a lot since I first was there in the 70's |
| 01:11.23 | g1powermac | heh, this state has just finally moved into the 21st century in regards to some laws |
| 01:12.15 | g1powermac | within the last two years or so they finally allowed cops to pull you over if you're not wearing your seat belt (not that I promote this, but was kinda shocked to hear they weren't allowed to when we first moved here) |
| 01:12.45 | g1powermac | but then, the ticket is only $25 and doesn't hit your insurance, which I think is prolly a very smart move |
| 01:13.05 | T0mW | several years ago, while on my way back from Alabama, I got screwed up and took I-77. After a hour I realized that I was not on Virginia. |
| 01:13.50 | g1powermac | and just recently they finally made some pretty nasty crimes felonies |
| 01:14.03 | T0mW | So, this was the day before Labor Day weekend. As I was headed north on I-77, a guy from W. Va passed me at over 100MPH. I figured that he knew something that I didn't. |
| 01:14.21 | g1powermac | oh no |
| 01:14.30 | T0mW | g1powermac: he did, there were no state cops on the road that day. I went through KY at over 130MPH. |
| 01:14.37 | g1powermac | hahah |
| 01:14.43 | T0mW | no sh!t |
| 01:14.57 | g1powermac | good thing you didn't go through this area |
| 01:14.59 | T0mW | g1powermac: in a rented Hynda Accel |
| 01:15.02 | g1powermac | hehe |
| 01:15.19 | g1powermac | its combing with cops out here, but then, I'm just a 20 minute ride from the state capital |
| 01:15.35 | T0mW | I figured "WTF, I haven't been to jail in a while..." |
| 01:15.39 | g1powermac | heheh |
| 01:15.57 | g1powermac | they're pretty laxed with the speed limits here |
| 01:16.14 | g1powermac | as long as you keep it under 10mph over the limit, they don't care |
| 01:16.25 | T0mW | yeah, Harrisburg PA is that way: best roads are around Harrisburg, the rest of the state the roads are terrible. |
| 01:16.40 | g1powermac | possibly 15, but my dad was pulled over once for it (got a warning though) |
| 01:16.45 | T0mW | same in PA, 10 over |
| 01:17.16 | T0mW | g1powermac: we have a Law on the books, if you are from out of state you must remain in the far right lane. |
| 01:17.23 | g1powermac | he later got an actual ticket for going quite a bit over the limit on one of these really annoying roads here |
| 01:17.32 | g1powermac | where they drop the speed limit from 55 to 35 |
| 01:17.46 | T0mW | NJ trains their drivers too well, they don't speed very well. |
| 01:18.03 | g1powermac | so if you're going 65 and hit that 35 at anywhere near that, you're screwed |
| 01:18.12 | g1powermac | hehe |
| 01:18.52 | g1powermac | (and the cops love to hang out around those speed limit changes) |
| 01:19.44 | g1powermac | almost got screwed by that as well, but the cop seemed to have no real interest in pulling me over once he got close behind me |
| 01:20.01 | T0mW | In PA, it is an automatic suspension if you get caught 85MPH or higher. You would have to face an adminstrative hearing with PennDOT to get your license back. |
| 01:20.12 | g1powermac | I think my EFF and Green party bumper sticker scared him off ;-) |
| 01:20.17 | T0mW | lol |
| 01:20.29 | g1powermac | fun |
| 01:20.44 | g1powermac | you know, we have speed limits here set at 70mph :-) |
| 01:20.45 | T0mW | haven't had that happen, just know about it. |
| 01:21.10 | g1powermac | all our major interstates are at 70mph |
| 01:21.20 | T0mW | g1powermac: one year, Alabama State Police ran out of money for gasoline. they could not afford to patrol the interstates. |
| 01:21.26 | g1powermac | hahah |
| 01:21.37 | g1powermac | no speed limits! |
| 01:21.48 | g1powermac | well, except for them pesky local cops. . . |
| 01:22.09 | T0mW | I crossed over from GA on I-85 and suddenly people were passing me. I was doing 85MPH and could not figure out why this was. My brother told me why later. |
| 01:22.19 | g1powermac | hehe |
| 01:22.33 | T0mW | No, local cops are not allowed on Interstate down there, no jurisdiction. |
| 01:22.37 | g1powermac | oh |
| 01:22.41 | g1powermac | hmm |
| 01:22.48 | g1powermac | don't think that's like that here |
| 01:22.58 | T0mW | it is the old time sherif thingy and the laws forbit them the interstates |
| 01:22.59 | g1powermac | not positive though |
| 01:23.22 | T0mW | LOL |
| 01:24.17 | g1powermac | I've seen locals on the highways here, so I'm not sure |
| 01:24.22 | T0mW | reminds me of being pulled over on I-90 in Wyoming. Coming home from my vacation, just got out of the mountains on good road, top down, great jam on the radio.... |
| 01:24.27 | T0mW | warm day... |
| 01:25.09 | T0mW | cop asked me how fast I was going and I told him that I did not know. HA, then I told him the story I just told you, he let me off with a warning to keep right. |
| 01:25.32 | T0mW | Guess he figured I dropped enough money on vacation. |
| 01:25.36 | g1powermac | heheh |
| 01:26.08 | g1powermac | brb, switching over to my other machine |
| 01:26.28 | T0mW | I saw him pull down the gully between the lanes and cross over to my side. I recall thinking "wow, where is he going in a hurry". doh |
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| 01:28.40 | g1powermac_EPC | alright |
| 01:29.49 | T0mW | yup |
| 01:30.10 | g1powermac_EPC | T0mW, so, I totally love my reciprocating saw :-) |
| 01:30.25 | T0mW | aw, I haven't got one of those yet. |
| 01:30.50 | g1powermac_EPC | you must get one, they're extremely fun |
| 01:31.01 | T0mW | I do have a portable bench saw in my Living Room though, you got one of those in YOUR Living Room, eh, eh? |
| 01:31.18 | g1powermac_EPC | I think more fun then a sledge hammer |
| 01:31.32 | g1powermac_EPC | bench saw? like a chop saw? |
| 01:31.44 | T0mW | A friend got me one of those Dremel Muli-MAX tools as a housewarming gift. cool tool. |
| 01:31.47 | g1powermac_EPC | or table saw? |
| 01:31.50 | g1powermac_EPC | nice |
| 01:31.57 | T0mW | got one of those too, but in the Kitchen. |
| 01:32.11 | T0mW | I should say "Kitchen" as it doesn't really exist yet. |
| 01:32.15 | g1powermac_EPC | hehe |
| 01:32.24 | T0mW | points to the website: tomsnewhome. |
| 01:32.37 | g1powermac_EPC | my tools are mostly all in our garage here, they'll be making their debut shortly :-) |
| 01:32.39 | T0mW | I'm getting there though. |
| 01:32.42 | T0mW | yeah |
| 01:32.48 | g1powermac_EPC | but man I got alot of saws |
| 01:33.13 | T0mW | good to have. I just bought a cheap-o biscuit joiner from Harbor Freight. |
| 01:33.32 | T0mW | I needed it to make this light fixture. |
| 01:33.43 | g1powermac_EPC | two chop saws (one that even cuts steel), table saw, reciprocating saw, jig saw, circular saw, various hand saws and prolly something I'm not remembering |
| 01:34.00 | g1powermac_EPC | nice, harbor freight has some great deals |
| 01:34.11 | g1powermac_EPC | just recently got an awesome deal from home depot |
| 01:34.29 | g1powermac_EPC | bought a medium sized air compressor with six air tools for $199 |
| 01:34.50 | g1powermac_EPC | or was it $299. . .err |
| 01:35.08 | g1powermac_EPC | dang it, can't remember now |
| 01:35.17 | T0mW | wonders what package has ascii-doc |
| 01:35.29 | T0mW | g1powermac: that is a good deal! |
| 01:35.36 | g1powermac_EPC | yup |
| 01:35.53 | T0mW | I have a 2 gallon compressor I bought a few years ago and got no tools with it. |
| 01:36.10 | g1powermac_EPC | either way, they had bought a set of these kits but they were the wrong ones, so they gave them away for $100 less than retail |
| 01:36.23 | g1powermac_EPC | and I got the last kit :-) |
| 01:36.59 | g1powermac_EPC | and this is a big honking compressor |
| 01:37.09 | g1powermac_EPC | I can barely lift it |
| 01:37.16 | T0mW | doh, it helps if I do "urpmi asciidoc" instead of "urpmi aciidoc" |
| 01:37.25 | T0mW | how many gallons? |
| 01:37.38 | g1powermac_EPC | though not one of those big shop ones that can't be moved |
| 01:38.20 | g1powermac_EPC | 26 gallons |
| 01:38.46 | g1powermac_EPC | it stands like just under 4ft tall |
| 01:39.20 | T0mW | that is pretty good, I wish I had something like that when I did the hardwood floors. All I had was a 4 gallon that I borrowed. I would nail maybe 3 boards and it would run. |
| 01:39.34 | g1powermac_EPC | yea |
| 01:39.56 | g1powermac_EPC | speaking of which, I prolly will need one of those floor nailers at some point |
| 01:40.18 | g1powermac_EPC | the kitchen we're redoing currently has hardwood floors |
| 01:40.26 | T0mW | I bought one of those porta-nails pneumatic nailers. Shot over 9,000 nails into the floor, only had about 7 bad ones (hit a nail in subfloor). |
| 01:40.42 | g1powermac_EPC | but when we rearrange the cabinets and such, the floors won't work |
| 01:41.03 | g1powermac_EPC | so, we're going to carefully pull up the flooring and lay down ceramic tile |
| 01:41.12 | T0mW | I was using a borrowed floor stapler, but that sucker keep breaking the tongues on the boards! |
| 01:41.12 | g1powermac_EPC | and then reuse that floor somewhere else |
| 01:41.20 | g1powermac_EPC | doh |
| 01:41.27 | T0mW | good luck on the removal |
| 01:41.32 | T0mW | and re-use |
| 01:41.47 | g1powermac_EPC | heh, thanks |
| 01:41.51 | g1powermac_EPC | hopefully it will work out alright |
| 01:42.13 | g1powermac_EPC | can't be any worse than the vinyl floor removal that was sheet glued to concrete. . . |
| 01:42.17 | T0mW | I know that I had to remove some boards that I did with the T-nails, I had to literally rip them apart to get them up. |
| 01:42.47 | g1powermac_EPC | even though we weren't saving the vinyl, I gotta say that was the absolute worst floor removal ever |
| 01:43.04 | g1powermac_EPC | even worse than glued on carpet |
| 01:43.28 | g1powermac_EPC | the vinyl would just shred |
| 01:43.42 | T0mW | yeah, they glued down the tiles in the bathroom. no thinset. |
| 01:43.56 | g1powermac_EPC | so eventually we had to douse the entire floor in some lovely thinner stuff |
| 01:44.07 | T0mW | adhesive, what a pain that was to get the 4 inch tiles off that floor! |
| 01:44.22 | T0mW | I had to chisel them off |
| 01:44.24 | g1powermac_EPC | yup |
| 01:44.38 | g1powermac_EPC | should've used an air hammer :-) |
| 01:45.07 | g1powermac_EPC | I'm waiting to try that out with my compressor, I got some tile work I need to rip up |
| 01:45.15 | T0mW | I have a floor to put down in the master bath, I'm thinking of just laying 1/2 plywood over top of the tile... But, that won't work. |
| 01:45.26 | g1powermac_EPC | yea |
| 01:45.39 | g1powermac_EPC | uneven floors and such |
| 01:45.51 | T0mW | I guess that is the only way, some pnuematic chisel. |
| 01:46.13 | g1powermac_EPC | loves having power tools |
| 01:46.30 | T0mW | although, that could end up being a problem with it digging into the wood rather than scraping the tile off of it. |
| 01:46.31 | g1powermac_EPC | though this is because I was totally deprived when younger ;-) |
| 01:46.37 | T0mW | LOL |
| 01:46.47 | T0mW | tools are good |
| 01:47.01 | T0mW | especially when you need one and have it to use. |
| 01:47.06 | g1powermac_EPC | you should've have seen what my parents gave me when they needed a dryer vent hole cut through 4 inches of wood |
| 01:47.18 | T0mW | I keep trolling craigslist looking for tool bargains. |
| 01:47.25 | g1powermac_EPC | a drill with a long bit, a flat screw driver, and a hammer. . . |
| 01:47.35 | T0mW | yeah, right. |
| 01:47.41 | g1powermac_EPC | got it done though |
| 01:47.50 | g1powermac_EPC | just took 4 hours hacking at the wood |
| 01:47.54 | T0mW | I've a friend with a 3/4" drill... |
| 01:48.05 | T0mW | gear reduction drive. |
| 01:48.08 | g1powermac_EPC | mmmm |
| 01:48.28 | T0mW | nice to have friends who build houses. |
| 01:48.30 | g1powermac_EPC | would like something like that |
| 01:48.56 | T0mW | still needs to put in that dryer vent. |
| 01:49.03 | g1powermac_EPC | hehe, or parents who want you to do big projects, but you refuse till they buy you the proper tool for the job ;-) |
| 01:49.07 | T0mW | it is "on the list" |
| 01:50.19 | g1powermac_EPC | I can only MacGyver stuff for so many years before I've had enough ;-) |
| 01:51.23 | g1powermac_EPC | though I still think I can build a house with zip ties and duct tape. . . |
| 01:51.50 | g1powermac_EPC | people are quite amazed how much of our store is held together by zip ties. . . |
| 01:53.08 | T0mW | just turning my video server into a dev box, lots of packages missing. :-( |
| 01:53.16 | g1powermac_EPC | ouch |
| 01:53.23 | T0mW | got to find this error. |
| 01:53.27 | g1powermac_EPC | destroyed with dev machine the other day |
| 01:53.33 | g1powermac_EPC | tried to dist-upgrade it |
| 01:53.46 | g1powermac_EPC | but hadn't touched since I stopped playing with the z2 |
| 01:54.10 | g1powermac_EPC | s/with/his |
| 01:54.17 | g1powermac_EPC | dang, what a weird typo |
| 01:54.59 | T0mW | I have not done an auto-upgrade on a linux box in years. I got burned badly one time and won't ever do that again. |
| 01:55.24 | g1powermac_EPC | I've got burned so many times, but yet I keep trying. . . |
| 01:56.02 | T0mW | I just bite the bullet and start from scratch. One reason the arm-elf-gcc scripts that are on openhardware.net build a dev toolset that installs into the $HOME dir. |
| 01:56.16 | g1powermac_EPC | ahh |
| 01:56.29 | T0mW | I keep $HOME on its own volume, then when I upgrade the O/S (distro), I keep $HOME. |
| 01:56.39 | g1powermac_EPC | I really need to do that |
| 01:56.45 | T0mW | wipe all the rest clean (after backing up /etc). |
| 01:57.30 | T0mW | I put these on their own partitions: /, /boot, /tmp, /var, /usr, and /home |
| 01:57.39 | g1powermac_EPC | ahh |
| 01:58.32 | T0mW | if I got huge drive space (ala 1.2T on video server), then I make a separate volume for the big chunk of storage (e.g. /Videos) |
| 02:00.01 | T0mW | crap |
| 02:00.29 | T0mW | the problem is with Mandriva 2009.1 distro, stuff works on Mandriva 2008.1 |
| 02:00.50 | T0mW | my primary dev box has a problem |
| 02:01.26 | T0mW | well, both boxes are Q6600s... |
| 02:02.12 | g1powermac_EPC | cool |
| 02:03.10 | T0mW | it has something to do with 'ccache', if I edit openembedded/conf/bitbake.conf and set CCACHE="" then stuff works. Otherwise it won't run the do_compile() for the packages. |
| 02:03.21 | T0mW | Hmmm |
| 02:03.41 | g1powermac_EPC | hmm |
| 02:04.16 | T0mW | weird |
| 02:04.27 | T0mW | hates weird |
| 02:04.33 | g1powermac_EPC | heh |
| 02:05.47 | T0mW | ah |
| 02:05.57 | T0mW | ccache is not installed on the other box. |
| 02:07.14 | T0mW | not it, installing ccache doesn't change anything it still runs ok. |
| 02:09.02 | T0mW | ah, that explains it: |
| 02:09.05 | T0mW | which: no ccache in (/sbin:/usr/sbin:/bin:/usr/bin:/usr/X11R6/bin:/usr/local/bin:/usr/local/sbin:/usr/lib/qt4/bin) |
| 02:11.08 | T0mW | AHA! Now it fails on both boxes. ccache is the culprit! |
| 02:11.46 | T0mW | heh, "urpme ccache" |
| 02:12.18 | g1powermac_EPC | fun |
| 02:16.27 | T0mW | yes, three hours of it |
| 02:16.45 | T0mW | trivia will drive you nuts in this job. |
| 02:17.03 | T0mW | now, successfully, running "bitbake minimal-gpe-image" |
| 02:18.29 | T0mW | ok, that is going to tie the machine up for another hour or so. Time to take a break. |
| 02:18.45 | T0mW | g1powermac_EPC: have fun remodeling! |
| 02:19.14 | g1powermac_EPC | thanks |
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| 05:25.46 | m4t | any dht-walnut people around? |
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| 06:07.21 | davidc__ | m4t: I've played with it briefly |
| 06:35.44 | m4t | davidc__ : do you know what size power adapter, and how the polarity is set up? |
| 06:35.57 | davidc__ | m4t: let me go see if I can find my board |
| 06:35.59 | davidc__ | IIRC its 12V |
| 06:36.05 | m4t | yea 12v/2a |
| 06:36.11 | m4t | i need to order a psu |
| 06:36.21 | m4t | i got just about everything else ready, including a wiggler |
| 06:38.02 | davidc__ | hrm; I can find my boards, but no PSUs :S |
| 06:39.47 | m4t | darn |
| 06:40.55 | davidc__ | just ohmed it out to the LM2678 switcher IC on the board |
| 06:40.57 | davidc__ | its center positive |
| 06:41.17 | m4t | center positive |
| 06:41.31 | m4t | 2.5mm external diameter? |
| 06:41.32 | davidc__ | m4t: also; all the decoupling caps have 1 side shorted to the outside of the barrel jack, so that would be ground ;) |
| 06:41.53 | m4t | oh yea i didnt know how to test that |
| 06:42.00 | m4t | i figured something in the circuit would show how it was wired |
| 06:42.31 | m4t | oh |
| 06:42.36 | m4t | i can measure that i guess |
| 06:42.43 | m4t | ;-) |
| 06:44.14 | m4t | looks like it is 1.1cm and a 1mm center plug |
| 06:49.17 | m4t | er, 1.1 half cm's, 5.5mm or 6mm |
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| 07:23.21 | m4t | i just tested all the pins from the db25->up to the ic mount |
| 07:23.24 | m4t | on the wiggler |
| 07:23.30 | m4t | all came back good |
| 07:25.39 | m4t | i think i might just goto radioshack w/ the board and have them fit me up with an adaptaplug |
| 07:25.45 | m4t | or at least get me the right size |
| 07:25.56 | m4t | the adaptaplug adapters are like 30$ |
| 07:25.57 | m4t | heh |
| 07:43.16 | MonMotha | hum, NXP appears to be claiming to have a Cortex M3 that is faster per clock than competitors. How do they pull that off while still having a "Cortex M3"? I was under the impression that the CPU core spec pretty well defined all that. |
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| 07:49.21 | ds2 | maybe it is as much of an M3 as a the Xscales were a ARMv5?? |
| 08:01.36 | MonMotha | as in this isn't *quite* a M3? |
| 08:01.56 | MonMotha | it looks like the NXP devices don't have the on-chip peripherals that I want, anyway (I want hi-speed USB) |
| 08:02.11 | MonMotha | but I'm still curious |
| 08:04.22 | MonMotha | I guess it's probably ISA compatible but not cycle compatible |
| 08:04.38 | MonMotha | or maybe they just have a really good branch predictor or something. All the claims are on synthetic workloads, it seems. |
| 08:06.23 | davidc__ | MonMotha: it might have better memory / flash access speeds |
| 08:06.54 | davidc__ | MonMotha: at one point Nxp was jumping up and down and yelling a lot about how their on-chip flash had lower access latencies than their competitors |
| 08:09.47 | ds2 | hmmm |
| 08:09.56 | ds2 | don't they have cache? |
| 08:12.08 | MonMotha | maybe they specifically designed the benchmark to not fit in cache |
| 08:12.22 | MonMotha | no company would ever mess with benchmarks like that : |
| 08:12.23 | MonMotha | :) |
| 08:12.42 | MonMotha | I know the ARM7TDMI I used from Atmel had single cycle access to flash at full speed, but that was only ~50MHz |
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| 12:22.24 | Mirell | Millenium Falcon takes forever to build.. |
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