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| 01:35.42 | prpplague | well i've been "peeked" |
| 01:35.50 | prpplague | i grabed a couple from target |
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| 02:23.16 | wmat | these spammers on elinux.org are killing me |
| 02:23.28 | wmat | almost time to add a captcha for new users |
| 02:35.06 | prpplague | wmat: yea i noticed |
| 02:35.10 | prpplague | http://www.elinux.org/Peek |
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| 02:51.23 | wmat | that I saw too, nice |
| 02:51.26 | wmat | how much? |
| 02:59.56 | chouimat|busy | nice little thing |
| 03:08.14 | wmat | $20 or $60 I see |
| 03:54.04 | prpplague | http://www.elinux.org/Peek updated! |
| 03:56.41 | m4t | you tryin to get that consulting gig |
| 03:57.02 | m4t | is that what i read about them, they're offerring a supposedly high-level position to whoever gets linux going on it |
| 03:59.11 | prpplague | m4t: naw, i just like a good challenge |
| 03:59.55 | m4t | cool |
| 04:00.01 | m4t | i have a challenge for you.. |
| 04:00.05 | m4t | find a distributor of http://www.compware.com/_ATX_MIPS.html |
| 04:00.16 | prpplague | it has pretty health specs, i'm confused why they went with a MMU-less cpu |
| 04:00.23 | prpplague | looks |
| 04:00.57 | prpplague | hmm, i don't do mips stuff |
| 04:03.32 | m4t | i am thinking about buying an freeduino kit |
| 04:03.49 | m4t | and building an irda remote and possibly lcd screen |
| 04:03.57 | m4t | to interface with an mpd type thing on my walnut |
| 04:04.12 | m4t | i got too many projects i think |
| 04:05.19 | m4t | oh man those things are cheap, the peeks |
| 04:05.21 | m4t | 20$ hrm |
| 04:11.20 | prpplague | i got mine at target for 14.95 each |
| 04:12.36 | m4t | thatd be rad if someone got a uclinux build going on them |
| 04:12.43 | m4t | you open one up yet, ie. board level? |
| 04:14.09 | prpplague | uh how do you think i got all that info in just 2 hours? |
| 04:14.46 | prpplague | i already have the jtag pins mapped out, just gotta give them a try in the morning |
| 04:16.15 | ds2 | hmmm |
| 04:16.27 | ds2 | does that thing have any IO on it? USB host, etc? |
| 04:36.00 | prpplague | ds2: not sure if it is usb host or slave, or oTG |
| 04:36.26 | prpplague | ds2: found this earlier - http://boutique.getpeek.com/upgrade-cable-for-your-peek.html |
| 04:39.30 | prpplague | ds2: ok the socket is a micro-B recepticale so it must be usb slave |
| 04:44.02 | ds2 | or a OTG that is not wiredup right (N800/770) |
| 04:45.30 | ds2 | Hmm |
| 04:53.56 | prpplague | goes to bed |
| 04:53.58 | prpplague | later folks |
| 05:47.33 | m4t | http://www.liquidware.com/shop/show/QCT/QuadCore+Tower+Kit |
| 05:48.38 | m4t | % |
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| 16:01.57 | Mirell | Phew... |
| 16:02.00 | Mirell | A/C repaired. |
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| 17:00.25 | prpplague | ho ho hum |
| 17:04.46 | prpplague | if anyone is interested, i have a Peek wiki page up now: http://www.elinux.org/Peek |
| 17:08.55 | g1powermac | prpplague, nice |
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| 17:14.28 | prpplague | well that was a first..... my machine froze |
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| 17:39.20 | prpplague | http://www.elinux.org/Peek updated |
| 17:42.23 | wmat | prpplague: have you actually hacked one? |
| 17:43.13 | prpplague | wmat: well i have a serial port access, but since there is no datasheet available for this processor, its going to be difficult hack |
| 17:43.55 | prpplague | wmat: i did find a reference schematic that *cough* someone at LG had posted to the net by accident |
| 17:44.05 | wmat | heh |
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| 18:08.31 | prpplague | ho ho hum |
| 18:09.15 | florian | re |
| 18:09.23 | chouimat|busy | hi florian prpplague |
| 18:09.32 | florian | hi chouimat|busy |
| 18:09.33 | prpplague | greetings earthlings |
| 18:10.23 | chouimat|away | and bye ... my mom is here and since I don't have to work today I think I will go visit a museum ;) |
| 18:11.08 | florian | chouimat|away: enjoy |
| 18:11.39 | chouimat|away | florian: I will try ... |
| 18:13.29 | wmat | prpplague: when you hear the name KWartz Lab, what does it bring to mind? |
| 18:14.04 | prpplague | wmat: K-Mart's Lab |
| 18:14.11 | wmat | hahaha |
| 18:14.21 | prpplague | wmat: nothing specific, why? |
| 18:14.52 | wmat | prpplague: because that's the name of the new local hackerspace in Kitchener-Waterloo (hence the KW part) |
| 18:15.08 | wmat | prpplague: that's what I get for missing the naming meeting I guess |
| 18:15.13 | prpplague | hackerspace? |
| 18:15.50 | wmat | prpplague: yeah, see http://hackerspaces.org/wiki/Hackerspaces |
| 18:15.59 | prpplague | looks |
| 18:16.23 | wmat | prpplague: anyway, my name suggestion was hackw, which I think is much better ;) |
| 18:16.28 | prpplague | ahh interesting |
| 18:16.37 | prpplague | wonders if there will be one in the DFW area |
| 18:17.36 | wmat | nope, just Houston |
| 18:18.03 | prpplague | yea |
| 18:18.10 | prpplague | there is one in austin |
| 18:21.30 | prpplague | hmm, the firmware for the Peek: Rel_01_09_10.m0: Motorola S-Record; binary data in text format |
| 18:21.50 | Mirell | Good ol' S-Record |
| 18:25.23 | prpplague | converts to binary |
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| 18:32.50 | ds2 | Hmmmm based on the wiki, it doesn't look too promising (the Peek) |
| 18:32.59 | prpplague | ds2: why is that? |
| 18:33.43 | ds2 | things that stand out immediate - 1) No data on the processor, 2) the GSM module is just an xmitter, 3) it uses a TI part with a TWLxxxx name |
| 18:35.01 | prpplague | ds2: 1) yea without a datasheet it will be difficult 2) the GPRS/GSM is data only xmit and receive 3) this too is without a datasheet |
| 18:35.23 | ds2 | (2) implies the GSM stack is in the chip so.... |
| 18:35.41 | prpplague | ds2: from what i understand peek is considering providing the datasheets |
| 18:35.48 | prpplague | ds2: so? |
| 18:35.55 | ds2 | (3) I have only seen TWL* parts from wireless which means youhave a better chance of turning lead to gold in your living room then getting data on it |
| 18:36.09 | ds2 | prpplague: so htat means you are unlikely to ever get GSM working in Linux |
| 18:36.27 | prpplague | ds2: ahh, i know that, the GSM/GPRS isn't interesting for me |
| 18:36.31 | prpplague | ds2: i had no plans for that |
| 18:36.49 | ds2 | oh |
| 18:36.55 | ds2 | then the thing lacks IO |
| 18:37.01 | ds2 | no BT or WiFi |
| 18:37.18 | prpplague | ds2: yea, plenty of room inside to add stuff |
| 18:37.35 | ds2 | oh you are thinking of that route |
| 18:37.44 | prpplague | ds2: remove the sim card and replace it with a microsd |
| 18:38.16 | prpplague | ds2: what other route is there? are you talking about an unmodified device with just a "firmware" upgrade? |
| 18:38.58 | ds2 | yep |
| 18:39.04 | prpplague | ahh |
| 18:39.16 | ds2 | laziness strikes again :D |
| 18:39.23 | prpplague | shame they didn't use a better processor |
| 18:40.55 | ds2 | it looks like the processor should have a DDS or a PLL on board |
| 18:41.21 | prpplague | ?? |
| 18:41.37 | ds2 | a way of generating RF |
| 18:41.57 | ds2 | DDS == Direct Digital Syn. |
| 18:42.11 | ds2 | and most likely a decent ADC too |
| 18:42.29 | ds2 | so it could be a potential software radio platform |
| 18:42.34 | ds2 | lunch appt. bbl |
| 18:42.49 | prpplague | ds2: ahh they refer to it as DRP |
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| 19:57.33 | cmw | so peek eh? |
| 20:00.24 | prpplague | cmw: greetings |
| 20:00.35 | prpplague | cmw: yep, just playing around with a nice challenge |
| 20:01.22 | prpplague | cmw: thanks for the edits on the wiki |
| 20:10.15 | cmw | prpplague: no problem. I spent a bit of time last night building an upgrade cable so i figured i better post the details |
| 20:11.16 | cmw | prpplague: so you work for peek? |
| 20:12.10 | prpplague | nope |
| 20:14.48 | cmw | prpplague: any chance you have the datasheet for the TCS2310 chip? |
| 20:15.18 | prpplague | one sec phone |
| 20:15.58 | prpplague | cmw: no, not yet, but i did find a reference schematic for the LG C150 phone |
| 20:17.41 | cmw | prpplague: i was able to get the cable working and play around a bit with tsch. Dan sent me a training manual which has some useful info but the data sheet is still going to be a big help |
| 20:18.31 | prpplague | cmw: what did dan say about the datasheet/usersmanual for the TCS2310? |
| 20:19.12 | cmw | prpplague: he was going to try and get me a copy.. I'm going to hassle my TI rep and see if she will get me a copy as well |
| 20:19.46 | prpplague | cmw: hmm, i doubt TI will give you one, but dan might be able to get you one with a NDA |
| 20:20.08 | prpplague | cmw: next time you speak/email dan if you would pass along my info, i'd like a copy as well |
| 20:20.51 | cmw | well lets be glad it's not freefail. TI is much more open with the docs then freescale |
| 20:21.06 | prpplague | indeed |
| 20:21.19 | prpplague | cmw: http://www.elinux.org/User:Prpplague |
| 20:21.44 | cmw | mmm? |
| 20:21.55 | prpplague | cmw: but from what i understand TI has been keeping the specs closed for the LoCosto stuff to keep the phone unlockers from working on them |
| 20:22.05 | prpplague | cmw: my info if you'll pass it along to Dan |
| 20:22.20 | cmw | prpplague: well good news about that is the Peek is unlocked |
| 20:22.30 | cmw | prpplague: i was able to make a call from it today |
| 20:22.33 | cmw | on AT&T |
| 20:23.05 | prpplague | cmw: interesting, i didn't thing the gprs/gsm module supported voice on the Peek |
| 20:23.10 | prpplague | think |
| 20:23.35 | cmw | prpplague: well i don't believe it has a mic. But it was ale to dial/connect |
| 20:23.41 | cmw | s/ale/able |
| 20:23.43 | prpplague | ahh |
| 20:23.48 | prpplague | thats kind of what i thought |
| 20:24.00 | cmw | still pretty cool for out of the box and only $14.95 |
| 20:24.06 | prpplague | indeed |
| 20:24.38 | prpplague | cmw: the serial port, is it just a terminal running on the port or do you have to have a specific client for it? |
| 20:25.32 | cmw | prpplague: it's clear text communication but i'm not 100% on the protocol. The peek upgrader comes with a lovely little shell app that lets you obtain a shell via serial |
| 20:26.10 | prpplague | cmw: ahh, well i'll give it a try next week with minicom to see what kind of data it is |
| 20:26.55 | prpplague | cmw: i'm still mapping out some of the I/O , so it will probably next week by the time i get ready to start software work |
| 20:28.04 | cmw | prpplague: http://www.cmw.me/peekshell.png |
| 20:28.51 | prpplague | looks to be a standard shell |
| 20:29.13 | prpplague | cmw: don't suppose you could try connecting using hyperterminal ? |
| 20:29.43 | cmw | prpplague: ya let me upload the boot messages |
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| 20:33.26 | prpplague | cmw: isn't the IPhone based on one of the S3C series from Samsung? |
| 20:33.40 | solar | yes |
| 20:34.16 | prpplague | solar: s3c6410 variant iirc |
| 20:34.17 | solar | wait maybe not might be a qualcome chip @ armv6a |
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| 20:34.57 | cmw | prpplague: it has 2 chips.. one for gsm and one for main OS |
| 20:35.09 | cmw | prpplague: http://www.cmw.me/peek-bootlog.txt |
| 20:35.17 | prpplague | looks |
| 20:35.30 | cmw | nothing very exciting and apparently they don't send new lines |
| 20:35.47 | prpplague | does a dos2unix convert |
| 20:37.05 | cmw | prpplague: looks like flashing won't be a big issue. The peek upgrader uses a TI supplied cli app to flash. |
| 20:37.56 | cmw | but it would be nice if we didnt have to reverse the TI libs.. datasheets are such a luxury in this biz. |
| 20:38.04 | prpplague | indeed |
| 20:41.49 | prpplague | cmw: how did you capture that bootlog? |
| 20:47.53 | solar | going to do a bit of cellphone hacking? |
| 20:48.07 | prpplague | solar: naw, just hacking on the peek |
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| 20:57.44 | cmw | prpplague: it's just a minicom dump on boot |
| 20:59.56 | prpplague | cmw: ahh dandy |
| 21:00.08 | prpplague | cmw: did you get a prompt at the end of that? |
| 21:00.32 | cmw | prpplague: no |
| 21:00.39 | prpplague | cmw: ahh |
| 21:00.50 | prpplague | cmw: what baud rate did you have it set for? 115200 ? |
| 21:01.10 | cmw | prpplague: yeah i used my n810 to connect. http://cmw.me/?q=node/44 |
| 21:02.51 | prpplague | dandy |
| 21:02.59 | prpplague | uses his flyswatter board |
| 21:04.39 | prpplague | cmw: that some bug-labs stuff? |
| 21:05.56 | cmw | prpplague: yeah i do consultant work for them. Ported u-boot and added i.MX31 support to QEMU for them |
| 21:06.18 | prpplague | cmw: ahh dandy |
| 21:07.28 | cmw | prpplague: haven't heard back from Dan.. So time to start breaking apart this firmware image |
| 21:10.26 | prpplague | cmw: yea i started looking at it |
| 21:10.42 | prpplague | cmw: the base image that ships with the firmware updater is a motorola-s file |
| 21:13.09 | cmw | prpplague: yeah i dumped it to a binary blob.. it's just a case of dumping out the files that are useful |
| 21:17.11 | cmw | prpplague: my local target had a ton for $14.95 so i grabbed them. |
| 21:17.11 | cmw | great deal |
| 21:19.00 | ds2 | hmmmm |
| 21:19.08 | ds2 | wwhat is the TI tool called? |
| 21:19.31 | ds2 | If only that thing had a bluetooth connection so it can be used as a data card.... |
| 21:19.55 | prpplague | ds2: yea i was thinking the same thing |
| 21:20.28 | prpplague | cmw: hmm, trying to set a peek up, but it's not letting me select the "submit" button |
| 21:20.47 | cmw | prpplague: yeah you need to activate it before you can do that.. i.e pay $19.99 a month |
| 21:21.07 | cmw | prpplague: for some fun stuff type #peek-cit# in the email field and hit enter |
| 21:21.08 | prpplague | cmw: ahh |
| 21:21.14 | cmw | it will drop you to a test menu and you can make calls |
| 21:21.20 | prpplague | ahh |
| 21:21.21 | ds2 | I wonder if there is a stock preapproved GSM stack that is in the Peek code |
| 21:21.24 | prpplague | tries it |
| 21:21.36 | cmw | ds2: i was able to make a call using an AT&T sim (tmobile is stock) |
| 21:21.40 | ds2 | if so... |
| 21:22.06 | ds2 | cmw: I mean chances are they didn't write their own GSM stack so there is likely to be an off the shelf gsm stack that might be reusable |
| 21:22.51 | cmw | ds2: yeah from what i can see it's all TI's stuff |
| 21:23.26 | cmw | ds2: i dumped all the files from the TI shell.. but its just userland stuff |
| 21:23.44 | cmw | there is a gsm folder |
| 21:24.39 | cmw | prpplague: looks like you can hacktivate it by modifying the peak.db using the TI shell |
| 21:24.54 | prpplague | cmw: interesting |
| 21:25.01 | cmw | you will need to swap out your sim with an activated sim tho |
| 21:25.04 | prpplague | cmw: my charger got really hot and seems to have stopped |
| 21:25.23 | ds2 | cmw: interesting...is there a way to get the modem to accept AT commands? |
| 21:25.37 | ds2 | it almost sounds interesting enough to get one |
| 21:25.43 | ds2 | maybe there are pads to add a mic? |
| 21:28.16 | cmw | ds2: looks like there is a way in the test shell to send AT commands |
| 21:28.45 | cmw | prpplague: i managed to get it into the bootrom mode. I can dump the firmware and write the firmware now |
| 21:29.16 | prpplague | cmw: cool |
| 21:29.22 | prpplague | cmw: how the heck did you do that? |
| 21:29.25 | cmw | still not a 100% sure on the memory map |
| 21:29.27 | ds2 | cmw: I think you have made me decide to get one ;) |
| 21:29.52 | ds2 | worse case is this is a GPRS capable only device but I could always use another one to play with |
| 21:30.11 | cmw | ds2: buy a bunch.. trust me. When i ported Linux to the msntv2 i bought 30 on ebay for $0.99 cents each. Then when i released the port they jumped to $40-$50 |
| 21:30.13 | ds2 | prpplague: any chance there are pads setup for a mic/ |
| 21:30.41 | ds2 | cmw: I don't have that much money to invest :( best I can do is get 3 or 4 |
| 21:30.57 | prpplague | looks at his depopulated pcb |
| 21:31.15 | ds2 | prpplague: look for something around the TWL chip |
| 21:31.30 | prpplague | ~lart ds2 |
| 21:31.30 | purl | follow's ds2 with a gauntlet and ... scratch ... HUMILIATION |
| 21:31.37 | ds2 | I suspect the TWL is a combo power + CODEC thing like its 4030 brother |
| 21:31.42 | ds2 | WHAT!?! :D |
| 21:32.02 | prpplague | ds2: of course it would be near the twl3031! |
| 21:32.10 | cmw | ds2: yeah i didnt mean by 100's of them :P it's pretty sexy that this device is unlocked and it's quad band |
| 21:32.24 | ds2 | prpplague: am I missing something? the alternative is it would be near the processor |
| 21:32.28 | prpplague | ds2: from what i'm seeing, all the primary bga pins are brought out and there are a number of them that are just cap'd to ground |
| 21:32.42 | cmw | prpplague: if you run the ccst application then reset the device while its running it drops it into bootrom mode |
| 21:33.03 | prpplague | ds2: hehe, kind of like saying "water is wet" |
| 21:33.52 | prpplague | cmw: ccst app? that part of the upgrade apps? |
| 21:34.22 | prpplague | ds2: yea looks like there a number of places that might be compatible with an add on voice |
| 21:34.42 | prpplague | ds2: from looking at the pcb, it looks like there were intentions of adding a mic |
| 21:34.45 | ds2 | prpplague: can you compare what you see to the TPS65950? |
| 21:35.15 | prpplague | ds2: sorry, no, i am not familiar with the TPS65950 off the top of my head |
| 21:35.24 | ds2 | the 65950 is the 4030 but with docs.... the 3031 might be a cost reduced 4030 |
| 21:35.35 | prpplague | ahh |
| 21:35.40 | ds2 | prpplague teh TPS65950 is fully documented on the TI site |
| 21:36.33 | ds2 | another data point... is the USB port going to the TWL chip or direct to the CPU? |
| 21:37.00 | prpplague | ds2: cpu, and it's not usb, its a uart |
| 21:37.06 | ds2 | oh |
| 21:37.46 | ds2 | maybe it is not a cost reduced 4030 then |
| 21:38.00 | prpplague | ds2: the 3031 does have usb, they just didn't use it |
| 21:38.18 | ds2 | prpplague: oh? Hmmmm interesting |
| 21:38.31 | ds2 | prpplague: so you found docs on the 3031? |
| 21:39.01 | cmw | prpplague: you sure the pads on the board are uart as well? |
| 21:39.32 | prpplague | *cough* no, but if you google for "TWL3031 CP150" you'll find a dandy service manual for the LG CP150 phone |
| 21:39.49 | prpplague | cmw: yea, i depopulated the main pcb and rang out the lines |
| 21:39.53 | ds2 | docs get misplaced all the time ;) |
| 21:41.05 | prpplague | is soon to the beer store |
| 21:41.23 | ds2 | store? not the beer cellar? ;) |
| 21:42.31 | prpplague | cmw: hehe, if i can get uClinux up and running on a pixter, we definetly should be able to do it for the Peek: http://www.elinux.org/Pixter |
| 21:44.01 | prpplague | hmm, maybe i should email dan directly |
| 21:45.57 | cmw | prpplague: he said he would let me know if he got the spec but your of course welcome to emailz |
| 21:49.20 | prpplague | cmw: yea, i just wanted to pass along my contact info and let him know i was working on it |
| 21:49.49 | prpplague | cmw: i've got an idea for an accessory product that we might make for it |
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| 23:03.05 | cmw | prpplague: wb |
| 23:03.16 | prpplague | cmw: greetings earthling |
| 23:24.28 | Madsy | prpplague: Good evening. |
| 23:26.32 | prpplague | Madsy: greetings |
| 23:36.06 | prpplague | cmw: get anywhere with the firmware disassembly |
| 23:36.08 | prpplague | ?? |
| 23:40.58 | cmw | prpplague: yep making progress |
| 23:41.22 | cmw | since i'm pretty familiar with u-boot after the i.MX31 stuff i'm going to use it |
| 23:41.35 | Madsy | I need to implement a mutex on ARM using the SWP instruction. Do I need an inspection value, or does the logic works with just two valued? (locked/unlocked) |
| 23:41.43 | cmw | plus it doesnt require an MMU so that makes it easier |
| 23:41.46 | Madsy | work* |
| 23:42.24 | Madsy | In my head, two values will work, because swapping "locked" and getting "locked" does not alter the state of the mutex. |
| 23:43.25 | Madsy | So the mutex is only changed when one actually gets the resource successfully. |
| 23:43.29 | Madsy | Does that make sense? |
| 23:44.05 | Madsy | For those who don't know of the instruction, SWP swaps a register with a memory value in an atomic manner. |
