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| 07:40.40 | methril|work | yo |
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| 09:34.32 | lampe__ | hi |
| 09:34.58 | lampe__ | how can I disable the debug port in wince 6.0.. do I have to make a new image with plattform builder? |
| 09:35.23 | lampe__ | I need to use my com port for an application - but the com port is used by wince debug |
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| 11:19.00 | SandGorgon | hi guys.. we had an idea for a mobile product that integrates wifi and HSDPA in a handheld package. Now this product is a addon to another device and is therefore restricted at 2.3 w power consumption - as amateurs, the most important thing to us right now is availability of open source code and cheap devkits. any help on which chips (for wlan and hsdpa) will be highly appreciated |
| 11:21.55 | Viltapi | SandGorgon: not really my area but have you checked out OpenMoko? |
| 11:22.53 | SandGorgon | Viltapi, nope.. but I understood it was a cellphone |
| 11:23.17 | Viltapi | SandGorgon: yea and I understood yours was too :O |
| 11:24.28 | SandGorgon | Viltapi, hardly.. however it is close enough I guess. one other chipset that I was looking at was the wireless chip in the iPhone - which is supposed to be quite good |
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| 14:35.42 | chouimat | morning |
| 14:36.18 | prpplague | ds2: ping |
| 14:36.55 | prpplague | chouimat: greetings |
| 14:38.59 | chouimat | is back in ottawa |
| 14:45.00 | Mirell | is back in OC. =( |
| 14:55.06 | g1powermac | is still stuck in kentucky |
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| 15:04.11 | Mirell | Everyone, road trip to Cancun! |
| 15:04.22 | prpplague | g1powermac: kind of like saying you are still stuck in 10000BC |
| 15:04.58 | Mirell | prpplague: Quickly, use the ChronoShip! |
| 15:05.17 | prpplague | Mirell: i wouldn't go to mexico if they paid me |
| 15:05.21 | Mirell | prpplague: You've already got Ayla! |
| 15:07.37 | prpplague | hates the job game |
| 15:07.55 | prpplague | lordy this company wants me to take a written C test |
| 15:08.19 | prpplague | can program like crazy in c, but hasn't taken a written C test in 10 years |
| 15:08.58 | prpplague | anyone know a good place to take a practice C test? |
| 15:09.29 | prpplague | grumbles |
| 15:15.44 | chouimat | ouch |
| 15:22.08 | prpplague | chouimat: i'm sure i'll pass, just afraid of some tricky questions |
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| 15:38.05 | g1powermac | prpplague, hey, hey, gotta give these people a little bit of credit, 1000BC is a bit more like it ;-) |
| 15:38.46 | g1powermac | they at least have wheels ;-) |
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| 20:32.29 | prpplague | kergoth: ping |
| 20:32.40 | kergoth | prpplague: pong |
| 20:33.01 | prpplague | kergoth: haven't you done contract-to-hire work before? or was it just contract work? |
| 20:34.05 | kergoth | I've only done contracting once, on one contract, and that was just a 3 month contract, not to hire |
| 20:34.09 | kergoth | so i doubt i'll be very helpful :) |
| 20:34.48 | prpplague | kergoth: for that contract work did they withhold taxes or were you responsible for that? |
| 20:35.15 | kergoth | i was responsible for it, and i never sent it in, so I'm in some trouble on that. still need to go back and file and pay the fees and all :P |
| 20:35.46 | prpplague | ahh |
| 20:36.13 | prpplague | kergoth: and i assume they paid weekly by the hour, correct? |
| 20:37.23 | kergoth | don't recall if it was weekly or not, but that was the gist. periodically sent them an invoice, they electronically dropped the cash into my account |
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| 20:37.45 | prpplague | kergoth: ahh |
| 20:39.16 | kergoth | grumbles, need to go up to h&r block or something to file that year (06) one of these days, before he gets in even deeper shit :) |
| 20:39.28 | kergoth | you going to try contracting? |
| 20:40.14 | prpplague | kergoth: well, this one job wants to do a "contract-to-hire" for 6 months |
| 20:40.19 | kergoth | ah |
| 20:40.31 | prpplague | kergoth: they are a little concerned that i don't have a degree |
| 20:41.20 | kergoth | that's somewhat worrisome.. a lot of companies are clueful enough to not care so much about that |
| 20:41.24 | kergoth | heh |
| 20:41.28 | kergoth | but i guess it varies |
| 20:41.55 | prpplague | kergoth: fairly large company and the division i'm going in is somewhat picky |
| 20:42.18 | kergoth | ah, that'll do it.. well hopefully you can wow em in the interview process :) |
| 20:42.37 | prpplague | hehe, well the final "big one" interview is friday |
| 20:42.58 | prpplague | they want me to take a written C test as well :( |
| 20:43.02 | prpplague | i hate tests |
| 20:43.28 | kergoth | ugh |
| 20:44.12 | prpplague | here is my C test: Does the code work? A) yes - Pass B) no - fail |
| 20:44.17 | kergoth | i hate that kind of interview. my memory isn't good with details, unless i can pull out a quick reference or google or wikipedia, I'm unlikely to do very well.. and its stupid, since those resources will be available from day to day |
| 20:44.33 | prpplague | kergoth: yea same with me |
| 20:44.43 | prpplague | kergoth: i love having a stack of reference material |
| 20:45.53 | kergoth | it seems silly to test you under circumstances that different from when you'll be actually doing the work, you know |
| 20:45.57 | kergoth | but people are silly.. |
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| 20:47.58 | prpplague | kergoth: yea, i'm thinking they've seen too many linux wannabie hackers apply for these types of jobs |
| 20:49.11 | prpplague | kergoth: you've been working in the "big company" environment for awhile, how were things at TI? |
| 20:50.08 | kergoth | TI had a great work environment, nice facilities, but the usual big company red tape. but, oddly, I've found myself missing some of that red tape |
| 20:50.24 | kergoth | there's something to be said for being iso9000 compliant.. actually having processes written down, and following them.. what a concept |
| 20:50.31 | kergoth | ;) |
| 20:50.36 | prpplague | kergoth: indeed |
| 20:51.36 | prpplague | kergoth: i have no doubt i can do the job they want, i'm worried about the schedules, i've heard alot of these places are pretty ruthless with the schedules, and doing board bringup can be tedious |
| 20:52.47 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: hey bud |
| 20:52.53 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: when did you sneak in? |
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| 20:53.48 | prpplague | roxfan: greetings earthling |
| 20:54.17 | roxfan | o.o hi |
| 20:54.58 | prpplague | roxfan: got time to go to chimay and pick up a few bottles? |
| 20:55.56 | roxfan | i can buy it in the supermarket |
| 20:56.08 | prpplague | roxfan: naw, thats no good |
| 20:56.39 | prpplague | is totally stressed out |
| 20:56.45 | roxfan | well, except the super-limited edition kind which is sold only at the abbey |
| 20:57.12 | prpplague | roxfan: how about some duvel? |
| 20:57.20 | roxfan | what about it? |
| 20:57.33 | prpplague | jokes with roxfan |
| 20:57.38 | prpplague | roxfan: go get some for me |
| 20:58.24 | roxfan | sorry, shipping this stuff is a pita |
| 20:58.35 | roxfan | i think there's a site you can order from online |
| 20:58.50 | prpplague | roxfan: hehe, you have no idea how hard it would be to ship that to texas |
| 20:59.31 | prpplague | roxfan: i'm just kidding with you, we can get those here, just a dream i have to do a beer tour of belgium |
| 21:02.36 | prpplague | HcE: those new AT91SAM9G chips look pretty dandy |
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| 21:05.15 | prpplague | HcE: you doing any work on those? |
| 21:05.34 | roxfan | prpplague: seen new sony reader? 5" model for $199 |
| 21:05.54 | prpplague | roxfan: no i haven't, i ordered a coolreader the other day |
| 21:06.21 | roxfan | http://content.zdnet.com/2346-9595_22-328169.html |
| 21:06.48 | prpplague | HcE: hehe, i recommended using the AT91SAM9G45 for our next handheld, but since the engineering department is no more, i doubt that will happen |
| 21:06.53 | prpplague | looks |
| 21:07.37 | roxfan | iMX1L inside |
| 21:07.42 | prpplague | roxfan: i don't think the sony ones do pdf |
| 21:07.49 | roxfan | sure does |
| 21:07.52 | roxfan | since prs-500 |
| 21:07.57 | roxfan | and 505 added reflow |
| 21:08.29 | prpplague | ahhh |
| 21:08.44 | prpplague | roxfan: i guess it is the older kindle that doesn't |
| 21:08.55 | roxfan | yeah, kindle1/2 doesn't |
| 21:09.10 | prpplague | roxfan: well i kind of like the fact that the coolreader uses linux |
| 21:09.12 | roxfan | and kindle dx offers only full-screen viewing |
| 21:09.17 | roxfan | they all do :) |
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| 21:09.31 | roxfan | every single one reader that i know about runs linux |
| 21:09.59 | roxfan | well, i think samsung plans to release something with wince |
| 21:10.04 | roxfan | but it's not out yet |
| 21:10.22 | prpplague | roxfan: hehe yea, i meant to say linux on the s3c2440 |
| 21:10.45 | roxfan | http://www.sony.net/Products/Linux/Audio/category03.html <- sony's source code |
| 21:10.54 | prpplague | (since i did alot of the work for s3c24xx debugging) |
| 21:13.00 | roxfan | have elonex released linux sources yet? |
| 21:14.25 | HcE | prpplague: yeah, they are nice, not gotten to play with them :/ |
| 21:15.18 | roxfan | hm, the site looks down |
| 21:15.43 | roxfan | oh wait cool-er is not elonex |
| 21:15.58 | roxfan | got confused with all the netronix clones |
| 21:17.06 | prpplague | HcE: best part about them is the low pin count AND the 0.8mm pitch |
| 21:17.49 | prpplague | HcE: 0.4 and 0.5 really cut into the cost of doing pcbs |
| 21:19.07 | prpplague | roxfan: http://www.coolreaders.com/specifications.asp |
| 21:19.57 | roxfan | don't see sources link... |
| 21:20.16 | prpplague | roxfan: sorry was just pointing you to their site, just the url i had handy |
| 21:20.46 | roxfan | yeah i knew it but it was down just a few minutes ago |
| 21:22.34 | prpplague | ahh |
| 21:24.40 | prpplague | roxfan: looks like there is a download page for the source, but oyu have to register your device |
| 21:24.52 | roxfan | ah, could be |
| 21:31.17 | HcE | prpplague: well, depends on limits for your PCB ;) |
| 21:31.28 | HcE | prpplague: for some PCB area is really expensive |
| 21:31.44 | prpplague | HcE: such as? |
| 21:32.31 | HcE | mobile phones |
| 21:32.46 | HcE | any hand held equipment really |
| 21:33.38 | prpplague | HcE: yes for mobile phones, but for larger devices like industrial barcode handhelds, the cost savings by not going with 0.4 or 0.5 pitch is pretty big |
| 21:34.09 | prpplague | HcE: i.e. you are only going to make 10K units of the device |
| 21:34.56 | prpplague | HcE: you still doing mostly avr32 work? |
| 21:35.00 | HcE | yes |
| 21:42.23 | prpplague | HcE: ahh dandy |
| 21:42.42 | prpplague | throws atmega48's at HcE |
| 22:09.33 | solar | still needs to pick up an avr32 to play with |
| 22:19.29 | ds2 | a real board or a product to hack? |
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| 23:30.35 | florian | solar: the EVK1104 and EVK1105 look pretty nice |
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| 23:49.19 | prpplague | greetings all |
| 23:49.27 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: you alive? |