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| 07:51.34 | chiques | Does anyone recommend a USB oscilloscope? I only need 1 ms resolution |
| 07:55.39 | bsdfox | 1khz? |
| 07:55.46 | bsdfox | you could use your sound card for that |
| 07:56.05 | roxfan | http://www.saleae.com/home/ |
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| 13:45.15 | GPSFan | prpplague: g'day, how went the "C test" ?? |
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| 13:45.32 | prpplague | GPSFan: the test went well, but the interview didn't |
| 13:45.44 | GPSFan | ;>( |
| 13:46.40 | LookingFriend | hey |
| 13:47.02 | prpplague | GPSFan: they were looking for someone who was alot more "text book" oriented rather than some who could get the job done |
| 13:47.06 | LookingFriend | this is for embedded systems |
| 13:47.11 | prpplague | LookingFriend: indeed |
| 13:47.24 | LookingFriend | so u all r expert in device driver development? |
| 13:47.25 | prpplague | LookingFriend: embedded arm linux systems |
| 13:47.32 | prpplague | LookingFriend: most here are |
| 13:47.38 | LookingFriend | ahhh... arm |
| 13:47.40 | LookingFriend | ic |
| 13:47.49 | LookingFriend | where u all from? |
| 13:48.16 | GPSFan | prpplague: their loss... |
| 13:48.21 | prpplague | pretty much all over the world |
| 13:48.30 | LookingFriend | I m from control and automation field |
| 13:48.49 | LookingFriend | been a short stint in arm too |
| 13:49.05 | LookingFriend | heard about OKI semiconductor? and avnet |
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| 13:51.31 | prpplague | indeed both |
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| 13:52.08 | LookingFriend | prpplague, looking for job? |
| 13:52.53 | prpplague | LookingFriend: yea, got laid off last week |
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| 14:30.46 | chouimat | morning |
| 14:30.58 | prpplague | chouimat: greetings |
| 14:32.57 | chouimat | prpplague: good to see you survived the test ;) |
| 14:33.32 | prpplague | chouimat: yea, i was worried about the test, but the interview was where i had trouble |
| 14:34.01 | prpplague | chouimat: they were very serious about having someone who was strictly "text book" and i don't fit into that category |
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| 14:34.14 | chouimat | prpplague: wow |
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| 14:35.37 | joe_bleau | Sounds like they want an intern or recent grad (i.e., cheap). |
| 14:36.20 | prpplague | joe_bleau: yea that was the feeling i got as well |
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| 14:42.17 | prpplague | ~seen landley |
| 14:42.20 | purl | landley <n=landley@cpe-66-68-109-179.austin.res.rr.com> was last seen on IRC in channel #uclibc, 11d 5h 33m 35s ago, saying: 'That's more a mailing list question, I expect. :)'. |
| 14:42.53 | solar | is debating applying for this http://sfbay.craigslist.org/sby/sad/1308022541.html |
| 14:46.14 | prpplague | looks |
| 14:47.17 | prpplague | solar: with just a quick look, that one looks dandy |
| 14:47.28 | solar | startups worry me a tad. But even if it fails in 2 years. I'll still of earned a 1/4mil |
| 14:49.48 | prpplague | solar: indeed i was actually looking at a local startup posting |
| 14:50.23 | solar | prpplague: so the AML run has ended now? |
| 14:50.24 | prpplague | solar: funny, i was reading landley's blog and i feel exactly the same way he does |
| 14:50.35 | solar | I did not see his post. |
| 14:51.19 | prpplague | solar: ahh you didn't hear? got laid off on july 30th, last day is august 14th |
| 14:51.33 | prpplague | solar: http://landley.net/notes.html |
| 14:51.37 | solar | I knew it was coming to an end. Just did not see a date |
| 14:51.44 | solar | ok so the final day has not come yet |
| 14:52.28 | prpplague | solar: http://jobview.monster.com/Firmware-Developer-Job-Richardson-TX-US-82589665.aspx |
| 14:52.59 | SGnewbie | ahhh.. u all using monster.com |
| 14:55.34 | prpplague | SGnewbie: not really, but monster tends to have more locally listed jobs than dice.com or simplyhired.com |
| 14:56.07 | SGnewbie | ic |
| 14:58.57 | chouimat | Summer of 2009 ... the great job search ... |
| 14:59.43 | prpplague | chouimat: hehe |
| 15:00.10 | chouimat | prpplague: or even better Quest for a Job :) |
| 15:01.23 | prpplague | chouimat: "Job Quest" the best adventure movie of summer 2009! |
| 15:01.57 | chouimat | lol |
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| 15:17.03 | prpplague | ~seen cosmic |
| 15:17.05 | purl | cosmic <n=cosmic@87.219.7.109> was last seen on IRC in channel #debianppc, 800d 5h 1m 56s ago, saying: 'does anybody have a good apt-build.conf for optimizing code in powerbook g4?'. |
| 15:17.06 | prpplague | ~seen cosmicpenguin |
| 15:17.06 | purl | cosmicpenguin <n=nobody@66-162-99-237.static.twtelecom.net> was last seen on IRC in channel #edev, 9d 21h 27m 55s ago, saying: 'So, on the DL - if anybody knows any X11 hackers who want to live in Colorado, you guys know my LinkedIn / email address'. |
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| 16:44.25 | ds2 | Job Quest: See Quest for the Holy Grail. |
| 16:48.43 | g1powermac | We are the knights who say Ne! |
| 16:49.22 | g1powermac | hmm, wait, should techify that |
| 16:49.30 | g1powermac | We are the Knights who say Eee! |
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| 17:36.36 | Fawkes | Greetings |
| 17:42.16 | Fawkes | Anyone here got any idea what the default serial port settings on a DHT-Walnut might be? I've recently acquired it, and I don't know whether it's running ppcboot or U-Boot (or, indeed, anyone tinkered with the port settings on it). |
| 17:42.31 | m4t | hawks let me think |
| 17:42.36 | m4t | 9600 8-n-1 i believe |
| 17:42.58 | Fawkes | Hmm. I've tried that. I get a large amount of garbage text on power on that I assume is the banner. |
| 17:43.03 | m4t | that, i think, it was ppcboot does |
| 17:43.06 | m4t | okay hrm |
| 17:43.09 | m4t | maybe try 115,200 |
| 17:43.22 | m4t | that would likely be u-boot |
| 17:43.59 | Fawkes | And... nothing. |
| 17:44.14 | m4t | alright its probably 9600 |
| 17:44.17 | m4t | what comm are you using? |
| 17:44.23 | m4t | kermit, minicom, etc? |
| 17:44.37 | Fawkes | Hyperterminal. It's the only thing I had to hand. |
| 17:44.50 | m4t | alright |
| 17:45.17 | m4t | stop bits = 8, flow control = none, parity = 1 |
| 17:45.48 | Fawkes | So far, the most sense I've gotten out of it is 2400 7-n-1 - the only setting that's echoed whatever it typed with reasonable reliability. |
| 17:46.06 | Fawkes | Stop bits 8? Do you mean data bits? |
| 17:46.13 | m4t | eh i might |
| 17:46.39 | m4t | yes |
| 17:46.48 | m4t | 8 data bits, no parity, and one stop bit |
| 17:46.49 | Fawkes | Could 1 be the number of stop bits? |
| 17:46.51 | Fawkes | Right. |
| 17:46.52 | m4t | sorry ;) |
| 17:46.56 | Fawkes | Not a problem. |
| 17:47.04 | m4t | when i got mine, i'm pretty sure it was set to 9600 |
| 17:47.15 | Fawkes | It's pretty much what I expected mine to be. |
| 17:47.18 | m4t | i didnt use kermit though, i used kermit |
| 17:47.21 | m4t | er |
| 17:47.22 | m4t | fuck |
| 17:47.28 | m4t | s/kermit/hyperterminal |
| 17:47.33 | Fawkes | right. |
| 17:47.44 | m4t | is there any flow control? |
| 17:48.49 | Fawkes | I've switched flow control off. When left on "Hardware" I got absolutely nothing out of the device. |
| 17:49.05 | m4t | yea there is no flow control |
| 17:50.11 | m4t | you might try putty |
| 17:50.22 | m4t | it seems to have serial support, im looking at the changelog now |
| 17:50.30 | Fawkes | ah. I'll take a look |
| 17:50.32 | m4t | could you paste the 'garbage' you get to me? |
| 17:50.51 | m4t | and also, what do the leds do? |
| 17:51.07 | m4t | especially with something plugged into ethernet |
| 17:51.24 | Fawkes | The blue LED stays on. None of the others light. Nothing else is plugged in at the moment |
| 17:52.07 | m4t | i think the blue led is set by software, via gpio |
| 17:52.19 | m4t | so your boot loader is probably fine (ie. not bricked) |
| 17:53.18 | Fawkes | Excellent. Always good news |
| 17:53.19 | Fawkes | Its worth noting that it does seem to try to echo keypresses |
| 17:53.35 | m4t | that could be a hyperterminal setting |
| 17:53.35 | Fawkes | However, only at 2400 7-n-1 does that seem at all reliable |
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| 17:54.11 | Fawkes | I doubt it; I disabled that in hyperterminal, and at settings other than 2400 7-n-1 the echoed characters either don't appear or become garbled. |
| 17:54.32 | m4t | i really doubt it is set to 2400 |
| 17:54.50 | m4t | i reflashed mine with u-boot 1.2.0 and it moved to 115,200 |
| 17:55.00 | m4t | but, ppcboot is 9600 |
| 17:55.20 | m4t | unless the person you got it from changed some settings |
| 17:55.40 | m4t | i dont think you can change anything other than the speed though (ie it would still be 8-n-1) |
| 17:56.08 | m4t | that has to do with the uart + the wiring of the port, i think, not positive though |
| 17:56.27 | m4t | the other thing, is that it expects a straight cable, not a null modem |
| 17:57.01 | m4t | to get mine going i plugged a usb->serial cable directly in to the port on the walnut |
| 17:57.10 | m4t | with no intermediate cable |
| 17:57.19 | Fawkes | Right. |
| 17:57.31 | Fawkes | I have a USB-serial somewhere, but its lost in the heap of cables. |
| 17:57.40 | m4t | that would be something to try. |
| 17:57.43 | Fawkes | Currently I'm borrowing a works machine with a built-in serial port |
| 17:58.04 | Fawkes | And using a DB-9 male to DB-9 female cable |
| 17:58.30 | m4t | if you have a multi handy, you could test the cable wiring |
| 17:58.59 | Fawkes | Here's the first line of the "garbage" I received: üàààüàüàààüàààüààüüààüüààààààààüàüàüüüüàüüàààüàà |
| 17:58.59 | m4t | if it is plugged into itself, the wires should be one-for-one (looped) |
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| 17:59.11 | Fawkes | There are four such lines |
| 17:59.18 | m4t | is that 9600 8-n-1? |
| 17:59.22 | Fawkes | Yup |
| 18:00.02 | m4t | does it wait for a sec, then spit out another line? |
| 18:01.00 | Fawkes | Yeah, I think it does. I'll restart it though and check |
| 18:01.14 | m4t | yes i have a log of mine |
| 18:01.15 | m4t | one sec. |
| 18:02.02 | m4t | http://pastebin.com/d81244c8 |
| 18:02.28 | m4t | that is ppcboot to a prompt |
| 18:03.32 | Fawkes | The speed at which I seeing data suggests diagnostic output like that. Not quite the same volume though (which suggests that some characters are probably being lost) |
| 18:03.47 | m4t | yes i agree |
| 18:06.55 | Fawkes | Ah well. I'll check this cable out. I suppose it's possible that it's not a serial cable. |
| 18:07.10 | m4t | yea, i dont know |
| 18:07.15 | m4t | i would try the usb->serial |
| 18:07.39 | Fawkes | Yeah. I'll certainly put a lot more effort into finding it. |
| 18:07.39 | Fawkes | Thanks for your help |
| 18:08.00 | Fawkes | It's certainly useful to know that whatever the baud is, the rest is 8-n-1. Eliminates a lot of settings experimentation |
| 18:08.23 | m4t | ye |
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| 18:10.16 | m4t | i can get you a u-boot 1.2.0 image later today, if you're still around |
| 18:10.31 | m4t | it will correctly identify the board/cpu and give you a couple more features, like nfs boot |
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| 18:14.57 | m4t | cya tho, good luck with that |
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| 18:25.39 | Fawkes | Sweet, thanks. |
| 18:25.51 | Fawkes | And in other good news: my USB-serial adapter turned up. |
| 18:28.21 | prpplague | Fawkes: which one did you purchase? |
| 18:28.41 | Fawkes | USB Serial adapter? Some generic no-name unit |
| 18:28.56 | prpplague | ahh |
| 18:29.33 | Fawkes | The driver identifies itself as "PL-2303" and the sticker on it says "U232-P9". Neither of which mean much to me. |
| 18:29.59 | prpplague | ahh pl-2303 isn't too bad |
| 18:33.16 | ds2 | http://xkcd.com/594/ |
| 18:33.40 | agaffney | heh |
| 18:35.51 | prpplague | looks |
| 18:36.43 | prpplague | hehe cute |
| 18:36.47 | ds2 | recipe for scoring points ;) |
| 18:37.44 | prpplague | g1powermac: hey, don't suppose you know how much longer the Z2 will be available? |
| 18:42.07 | ds2 | http://xkcd.com/612/ |
| 18:42.11 | ds2 | if i had a cube... |
| 18:43.30 | prpplague | hehe |
| 18:45.57 | g1powermac | prpplague, heh, don't know |
| 18:46.12 | prpplague | g1powermac: did you get that job? |
| 18:46.38 | g1powermac | prpplague, face to face interview next week |
| 18:46.38 | g1powermac | though its looks quite good |
| 18:46.40 | prpplague | g1powermac: good deal |
| 18:46.57 | prpplague | g1powermac: sounds like they would be pretty cool to work for |
| 18:47.08 | g1powermac | its gonna be a total of four interviews by the time its done |
| 18:47.19 | g1powermac | yea |
| 18:47.25 | kergoth | job? where at? |
| 18:47.30 | g1powermac | their new VP of engineering seems to be a nice guy |
| 18:47.44 | prpplague | kergoth: zipit |
| 18:47.55 | kergoth | ahh, cool |
| 18:48.08 | prpplague | kergoth: they have some new projects in the works, so they are expanding their dev team |
| 18:48.27 | chouimat | cool |
| 18:48.44 | g1powermac | bbl |
| 18:49.16 | joe_bleau | So, we'll have a voice 'on the inside'? ;-) |
| 18:49.28 | g1powermac | heh |
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| 19:02.13 | Fawkes | Hmm. Somewhat disappointing: nothing from the USB-Serial convertor. |
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| 20:22.45 | prpplague | g1powermac: hey |
| 20:22.54 | prpplague | g1powermac: you still using quickbooks at your stores? |
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| 20:53.30 | chiques | Anyone have any suggestions on how to turn my PC into a 1Ms/s oscilloscope without spending too much cash? |
| 20:54.34 | roxfan | sound card |
| 20:54.51 | joe_bleau | 1 megasample sound card? |
| 20:55.16 | joe_bleau | If you don't need to store waveforms, an old Tektronix would be tough to beat. |
| 20:55.21 | prpplague | chiques: quantify "too much cash" ? |
| 20:55.45 | joe_bleau | Maybe some kind of demo board for a CPU with an ADC, and stream the data to ram? |
| 20:55.48 | chiques | $100-200 |
| 20:56.11 | roxfan | http://www.saleae.com/home/ <- saw this? |
| 20:56.25 | prpplague | chiques: why not just get a usb oscope? |
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| 20:56.27 | bsdfox_ | that just does digital logic |
| 20:56.31 | prpplague | roxfan: hehe you beat me to it |
| 20:56.43 | chiques | I saw the parallax USB scope for about $140 but considering I really hate windows I'd really like something else. |
| 20:57.15 | bsdfox_ | chiques: there are some half-decent linux-capable usb scopes in the $200 range |
| 20:57.47 | chiques | roxfan, That looks promising |
| 20:57.58 | prpplague | chiques: i use the usbee |
| 20:58.09 | prpplague | http://www.usbee.com/ |
| 20:58.28 | prpplague | hmm, anyone know where the mechanical specs for the beagle board are? |
| 20:59.25 | chiques | prpplague, Usbee looks cool but I only see Windows support |
| 20:59.49 | prpplague | chiques: yea, there is some trade off for stuff like that |
| 21:00.07 | roxfan | mechanical specs? you mean like size? |
| 21:00.43 | prpplague | roxfan: yea and placement of connectors |
| 21:01.42 | chiques | roxfan, I see Saleae plans on releasing their software to support Linux. I'm gonna look into that |
| 21:01.52 | roxfan | http://www.beagleboard.org/uploads/Beagle_Allegro_B.zip |
| 21:01.52 | roxfan | http://www.beagleboard.org/uploads/Beagle_Gerbers_B.zip |
| 21:01.53 | roxfan | ? |
| 21:02.19 | bsdfox_ | chiques: if you want digital the logic has a native linux port comiong soon |
| 21:02.31 | bsdfox_ | beat me to it :P |
| 21:02.43 | roxfan | also http://beagleboard.org/hardware/design |
| 21:02.52 | prpplague | roxfan: thanks that helps |
| 21:03.15 | roxfan | \o/ google-fu |
| 21:03.31 | prpplague | roxfan: hehe |
| 21:19.55 | prpplague | roxfan: those gerbers aren't very helpful i'm afraid |
| 21:20.05 | roxfan | too bad |
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| 21:44.41 | g1powermac | prpplague, yup |
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| 23:46.50 | webbi | hello |